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A49116 The healing attempt examined and submitted to the Parliament convocation whether it be healing or hurtful to the peace of the church. Long, Thomas, 1621-1707. 1689 (1689) Wing L2968; ESTC R26161 37,353 36

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Presbyters by divine authority where the publick Magistrate did permit it Dr. Cox. Although the Apostles had no authority to force any man to be Priests yet they moved by the Holy Ghost had authority of God to exhort and induce men to set forth God's honour and so to make them Priests Dr. Day The Apostles ordained Bishops by authority given them by God. Joh. 20. Sicut misit me c. Item Joh. ult Acts 20. 1 Tim. 4. Paulus ordinavit Timotheum Titum prescribit quales ille debeant ordinare 1 Tim. 1. Tit. 1. Dr. Oglethorp The Apostles by authority and command of God did ordain and institute Bishops leave being desired and obtained from the Prince or Magistrate who was then chief As I suppose Dr. Redman Christ gave his Apostles authority to make Bishops and Ministers in his Church as he had received authority of the Father to make them Bishops But if any Christian Prince had then been the Apostles had been and ought to have been obedient Subjects and would have attempted nothing but under the permission and assent of their earthly Governours Yet was it meet that they which were special and elect Servants of our Saviour Christ and were sent by him to convert the World and having most abundantly the Holy Ghost in them should have special ordering of such Ministry as pertained to the planting and increasing of the Faith whereunto I doubt not but a Christian Prince of his godly mind would most lovingly have condescended And it is to be considered in this Question with other like this word making a Bishop or Priest may be taken two ways for understanding the word to ordain or consecrate so it is a thing which pertaineth to the Apostles and their Successours only but but if by this word making be understood the appointing or naming to the Office so it pertaineth specially to the supreme Heads and Governours of the Church which be Princes Dr. Edgworth The Apostles made Bishops and Priests by authority given them of God and not for lack of any higher power notwithstanding where there is a Christian King or Prince the Election Deputation and Assignation of them that shall be Priests and Bishops belongeth to the King or Prince so that he may forbid any Bishop within his Kingdom that he give no Orders for considerations moving him and may assign him a time when he shall give Orders and to whom Example of King David 1 Chron. 24. dividing the Levites into twenty four Orders deputing over every Order one chief Bishop prescribing an Ordinal and Rule how they should do their duties and courses and what Sacrifices Rites and Ceremonies they should use every day as the day and time required And his Son King Solomon diligently executed and commanded the same usages to be observed in the Temple after he had erected and finished it 2 Chron. 8. Dr. Symmons The Aposties made Bishops and Priests by authority given them of God. Dr. Tresham The Apostles had authority of God to make Bishops yet if there had been a Christian King in any place where they made Bishops they would and ought to have desired authority of him for the executing of such Godly acts which no Christian King would have denied Dr. Leighton The Apostles as I suppose made Bishops by authority given to them of Christ howbeit I think they would and should have required the Christian Princes consent and license thereto if there had been any Christian Kings or Princes Dr. Coren The Apostles made Bishops and Priests by authority given them of God Notwithstanding if there had been a Christian King at that time it had been their duties to have had his license and permission thereto Here you see they all affirm that the Apostles by authority from God did make Bishops as well as Priests and Deacons and that there needs no other authority for their Successours to do the like but what is given them of God. Now that they were distinct Orders will appear by the next Question Quest 10. Whether Bishops or Priests were first and if the Priest were first then the Priest made the Bishop The Bishop of St. Davids my Lord elect of Westminster Dr. Cox and Dr. Redman say That at the beginning they were all One. The Bishops of York London Rechester Carlisle Doctors Day Tresham Symmons Oglethorp be in other contrary Opinions The Bishop of York and Dr. Tresham think that the Apostles first were Priests and after were made Bishops when the overseeing of other Priests was committed to them My Lords of London Duresm Carlisle and Rochester Drs. Symmonds and Grayford think that the Apostles were first Bishops and they after made other Bishops and Priests Drs. Coren and Oglethorp say That the Apostles were made Bishops and the seventy two were after made Priests Dr. Day thinks that Bishops as they are now called were before Priests My Lord of London Drs. Edgworth and Robertson think it no inconvenience if a Priest made a Bishop in that time Quest 11. Whether a Bishop hath Authority to make a Priest by the SS or no and whether any other but onely a Bishop may make a Priest To the former part of the Question the Bishop of St. Davids doth answer That Bishops have no authority to make Priests unless they be authorized of the Christian Prince The others do all say That they be authorized of God. Yet some of them add That they cannot use their Authority without their Christian Prince doth permit them To the second part the Answer of the Bishop of St. Davids is That Lay-men have otherwhile made Priests So doth Drs. Edgworth and Redman say That Moses by a priviledge given him of God made Aaron his Brother Priest Drs. Tresham Grayford and Cox say That Lay-men may make Priests in time of necessity The Bishops of York Duresm Rochester Carlisle Elect of Westminster Drs. Coren Leighton Symmonds seem to deny this thing for they say They find not nor read not any such Example Quest 12. Whether in the New Testament be required any Consecration of a Pishop and Priest or onely appointing to the Office be sufficient The Bishop of St. Davids saith That onely the appointing And Dr. Cox That onely the appointing cum manuum impositione is sufficient without Consecration The Bishops of York London Duresm Carlisle Drs. Day Coren Leighton Tresham Edgworth Oglethorp say That Consecration is requisite Dr. Redman saith That Consecration hath been from the Apostles time and instituted of the Holy Ghost to confer Grace My Lord of Rochester Drs. Day and Symmons say The Priesthood is given per manuum impositionem and that by Scripture and that Consecration hath of long time been received in the Church So that in this Paper which contains a previous Consultation some years before to the things published in the Necessary Erudition they did generally agree That the Office of Bishops is mentioned in Scripture That they were of a superiour Order to Priests That the Apostles