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A16183 A large examination taken at Lambeth, according to his Maiesties direction, point by point, of M. G. Blakwell, made Arch-priest of England, by Pope Clement 8 Vpon occasion of a certaine answere of his, without the priuitie of the state, to a letter lately sent vnto him from Cardinall Bellarmine, blaming him for taking the oath of Allegeance. Together with the Cardinals letter, and M. Blakwels said answere vnto it. Also M. Blakwels letter to the Romish Catholickes in England, aswell ecclesiasticall, as lay. Blackwell, George, 1546 or 7-1613.; Bellarmino, Roberto Francesco Romolo, Saint, 1542-1621. 1609 (1609) STC 3104; ESTC S121306 104,118 220

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moral_o and_o by_o the_o law_n of_o god_n to_o be_v hold_v with_o a_o right_a faith_n that_o the_o principality_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n be_v the_o true_a and_o only_o immediate_a principality_n of_o the_o whole_a world_n not_o only_o as_o touch_v thing_n spiritual_a but_o likewise_o temporal_a and_o that_o the_o imperial_a principality_n be_v depend_v upon_o it_o as_o be_v mediate_a ministerial_a and_o instrumental_a minister_a and_o serve_v it_o and_o that_o it_o be_v ordain_v and_o institute_v by_o it_o and_o at_o the_o commandment_n of_o the_o papal_a principality_n be_v mooveable_a revocable_a corrigible_a and_o punishable_a 25_o that_o as_o the_o divine_a and_o humane_a dominion_n be_v 150._o carerius_fw-la de_fw-la potest_fw-la rom._n pont._n pag._n 150._o in_o christ_n so_o in_o christ_n stead_n the_o dominion_n of_o the_o world_n in_o the_o pope_n be_v both_o spiritual_a and_o temporal_a divine_a and_o humane_a that_o the_o unremooveable_a truth_n do_v design_n 151._o 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and_o to_o that_o end_n affirm_v that_o he_o do_v concur_v in_o judgement_n with_o these_o author_n follow_v and_o so_o out_o of_o his_o pocket-note_n set_v down_o their_o word_n in_o this_o manner_n 60_o apostoli_fw-la nihil_fw-la vi_fw-la gerebant_fw-la tantùm_fw-la utebantur_fw-la gladio_fw-la spiritus_fw-la neminem_fw-la agebant_fw-la in_o exilium_fw-la nullius_fw-la invadebant_fw-la facultates_fw-la haec_fw-la omnie_n erasmus_fw-la non_fw-la minùs_fw-la disertè_fw-la quàm_fw-la verè_fw-la that_o be_v the_o apostle_n do_v nothing_o by_o force_n they_o only_o use_v the_o sword_n of_o the_o spirit_n they_o drive_v no_o man_n into_o exile_n they_o enter_v upon_o no_o man_n possession_n all_o this_o say_v erasmus_n no_o less_o elegant_o then_o true_o costerus_n in_o fidei_fw-la demonstrat_fw-la pag._n 96._o si_fw-mi aliqui_fw-la reges_fw-la cum_fw-la populo_fw-la se_fw-la tradiderunt_fw-la romanis_n pontificibus_fw-la ut_fw-la traditur_fw-la de_fw-la anglis_fw-la nihil_fw-la ad_fw-la 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