there is so little concerning fasting as that scaÌ„t any point in Divinity is lesse touched by him then that In all his works I find nothing purposely of that argument but that a once he doth excuse himselfe that for a whole Lent he had bin withdrawne a De quadrageâ—… â—…eiunij silentio to his private Meditations and not preached publikely to his congregation Out of which there is nothing to be wonne but this that a Lent in one sorte or other was kepte in his time which you need not trouble your selfe to prove for we do yeeld it As for Chrysostome he hath three or foure Sermons where he speaketh of fasting how requisite it is and that aboue all matters men in their abstinence should fast froÌ„ sinne which doctrine wee also publish Onely Ad b Serm. 72 73. Populum Antiochenum he hath two Sermons which mention Lent kepte among them but particularly in what maÌ„ner of abstineÌ„ce he speaketh not And what maketh this against vs whom you wrongfully charge to endure no sette times of abstaining Leo hath many Sermons coÌ„cerning fasting whereof c De ieiunio dâ—…imi mesin eight are made touching a fast kept in the 10. moneth in winter when all fruites were quite brought in at which time then they vsed to give God thankes for the same In these I find much coÌ„mendation of fasting almes with exhortation therevnto Also frequent mention of fasting on the Wednesdaies Fridaies remembring them to watch on the Saterdotes Lastly that there were d Serm. 〈◊〉 4. times of abstinence in the yeere celebrated Lent in the Spring one for Somer at Whitsontide another for Autumne in the seventh moneth a fourth for Winter in the teÌ„th moneth He hath e De quadragesima 12. Sermons concerning Lent wherin he often mentioneth how that time consisted of 4â—… daies that it was a time of preparatioÌ„ against the feast of Easter that therin men ought as wel to abstaine froÌ„ sin as to fast froÌ„ foode And f De ieiunio peÌ„costes 4. Sermons I find in him touching a fast after Whitsons that if any errour by intemperance be committed in the feast it may be expelled by the sobriety of a fast Last of all hee hath g De ieiunio septimâ—… mensis 9. Sermons touching a fast yeerely celebrated in the seventh moneth where it appeereth that their abstineÌ„ce was on the Wednesdaies Fâ—…daies as also it was in that other after PeÌ„â—… ost the remebraÌ„ce of which 4. tâ—…es by him meÌ„tioned our Church doth yet keep But in al these his SermoÌ„s there is not somuch as one word of distinctioÌ„ or diereÌ„ce of meats that flwh was to be refused fishe to be fedde on but that there shold be an abstinence in general In one place I observe that thus hee saith h De ieiunio Pentecost Serâ—… 14. Every creature of God is good there is nothing to be â—…fused vvhich is received with giving of thankes But we are not created to this and that with foule shamelesse greedinesse we should desire all the plenties of the world as if that which is lawfull to be taken might not be lawfull to bee omitted Heere is no difference of anye of Gods creatures which are sitte for foode but one as vvell as another may bee lavvfully vsed of him vvho mindeth at all to eate So that in a vvord amongest all these Fathers vvhom you bring as crossing our courses heere is nothing which toucheth vs but rather maketh against you 8. But to the ende that you and as many as vvill may bee satisfied vvhat vvee doe in this behalfe first vvee doe teach that fasting and abstinence not for or vvith superstition but vvith faith and knowledge is necessarie for Christian men i 2. Sam. 12. 16. David fasting prayed for the life of the childe vvhich vvas borne in adulterie VVhen the enemies invaded his Kingdome k 2. Chron. 20. 3 Iosaphat commaunded a publike fast to bee proclaimed VVhat shoulde I speake of l Ezr 8. 21. Ezra vppon occasion doing the like and the king of m Ion. 3. 7 Ninive at the preaching of Ionas n Ioel. 1 14 cap. 2. 15. Ioel prescribeth this to bee the meanes to appease the Lord in the midst of his indignation And in the new Testament wee heare of it as practised by o Mat. 4. 2. Christ and there are by p Cap 6. 16. him also rules prescribed in vvhat sorte it shoulde bee done For frequenting of it q Luk 2 37. Anna the old vertuous widow is commended and so is r Act. 10 30 Cornelius It is one of the weapons wherwith S. s 2. Cor 6 5 Paul did fight against his spiritual enemies Briefly in casting out of Divels Christ ioineth fasting with praiers saith that there is one kind of s 〈◊〉 Mat. 17 21 spirits which cannot be eiected without those two We adde to these Scriptures the testimonies of ancient writers as that of t 〈◊〉 De ieinnio Christi Cyprian By fastings the sinke of vices is dryed vp wentonnessa is abated concupiscences do waxe faint pleasures goe away as fugitiues And that of 〈◊〉 Chrysostome That as lighter ships doe passe the Sea more swiftly but those 〈◊〉 Hom. 1. in Genesim which are over-burdened with great waight are drowned so fasting making the minde the lighter doth cause that it the more easily doth passethe sea of this life and looketh into heaven and these things which are in heaven As also that of u 〈◊〉 In psal 42 Austen Wilt thou haue thy praier to fly vp vnto God make it two wings fasting almes Secondly we do think that such as liue in these Northren parts as Germany England Scotland Denmarke other toward the Pole Artike cannot without overthrow of their bodies so long endure to abstain froÌ„ food as those may who dwel in a warmer climate By the Antiperistafis of the cold aire about them their inward heat is the greater their stomaks are the better wherby more meat is digested yea more speedily concocted Hence it is as 〈◊〉 one observeth that those of Afrike hold the Spanyards to be great eaters the Spaniards 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 liâ—… 10. 〈◊〉 Scotic thinke so of the French the French obiect that fault to the English Scots Yet when they come to abide where wee liue these in their feeding are nothing inferior to vs ItaliaÌ„s French men while they haue a while remained in England giuing scope liberally enough vnto their stomaks Heat theÌ„ by nature being in vs if we shold not haue coÌ„petent food it wold so much the more be kindled so work vpoÌ„ the body it selfe to coÌ„suÌ„e it destroy it that of seneca being verified y De Ira lib â—…9 WaÌ„t of food enforceth heat burteth the bloud staieth the course of it in the veines being ill affected It is not therfore for men
way whom therefore will you beleeve our Saviour woulde in this case haue bidden men looke to the Originall o Math 19. 8 from the beginning it was not so VVhen the Saracens possessed p Câ—…l Aug. eurio Sarrac Histor. lib 1. Granado and that parte of Spaine which is about it for seaven hundred yeeres 〈◊〉 if a Christian should haue come to haue pleaded the title of that Kingdome they might haue produced Lavvyers who should have advouched that for so many descents that time out of minde their Auncestors had enioyed it But Kinge Ferdinand who expelled them thence might better replye that the Christians had a more auncient righte vnto it that the Saracent were but encroacher and vsurpers and there were bookes of authenticall record vvhich vvoulde vvithout partialitie assigne everie man his ovvne Thinges goe much by opinion till truth bee displayed Hovve many learned men did erre in that conceite thâ—… a q Bodin Method cap 4 Svvâ—…nne before his death did singe most svveetelye The r Petr Martyr Dâ—…ad 〈◊〉 3 Castilians vvhen they came first into the VVest Indies thought it had beene poyson to have eaten of rosted serpentes and yet aftervvard they found it to bee most daintie meate VVhen matters for a longe space have beene mistaken and at last they be discovered it is no commendation to dwell in olde oversightes but it is best vvith advise to reforme them s Ad Pompâ—…ium Custome vvithout truth is aâ—…nesse of errour â—…aith Saint Cyprian Touching your Lawyers then vvee saye that if they take truth to bee treason they are more afraide then hurte And as for your Physitians they are but like the s 〈◊〉 Chron 16. 1â—… Physitians of Asa for while more trust is reposed in them then in GOD many a good patient dyeth vnder their handes That vvhich they reporte to be poyson would saue and restore the sicke oâ—…ll affected person 23 VVhen you haue a little raunged among Lawyers and Physitians because wee shoulde thinke that you haue heard of all the three faculties you returne to your owne profession and and there as a man who say all but indeede knowe little of auncient Doctours and Divines and smally acquainted with the monumentes of the Church you professe that for a thousand yeeres nothing hath beene â—…aught but the vn-Catholike Romane Religion till Luther and Calvines time vvhich is as true a speech as you are a truth-speaking man and that is never a vvhit all the Popes Prentice beeing bounde but to a lying occupation Your slaunders against these holy men are so well knovvne vnto vs that in respect of you wee thinke them rather to bee laughed at then to bee refured albeit in regard of other simple soules vvhome you vvoulde abuse vvee are otherwise minded VVhen our Saviour had longe before lived and dyed and ascended into heaven Iulian Libanius and Porphiâ—…y had inventions mough against him and hee coulde not escape vvithout that slaunder that hee was a t Augustin in Iohan. Tract 3â—… Magitian VVhen Narcissus a godly vertuous person lived hee was by three false witnesses speaking against him and vsing u Euseb Eccle Hâ—…stor 6. 8. grievous imprecations toward themselves if they spake not truth accused of a hainous crime It was constantly given out of u Socrat 〈◊〉 â—…0 lib. 2 1â—… Theodor 1 26 28 30 Soom 2 2â—… 22 2â—… Athansâ—… Apologâ—… Athanasius that hee was an adulterer a Necromancer a murtheâ—…r this was so assevered by the Aâ—…ians that although many did see Arsenius whoÌ„ hee was reported to haue slaine or caused him to bee made away yet they woulde scant beleeue their owne eles but it was not once to bee doubted but that by the meanes of Athanasius vvho intended to vse it in Coniuâ—…tion one of the hands of the saide Arsenius was cut off although he himselfe stood before them and had both his handes whole and vntouched Yea a harlot was brought face to face which chardged him to haue coÌ„mitted fornication with her yet shee was so farre froÌ„ knowing him that when another tooke on him to be Athanasius shee not being therein mistresse of her crafte chardged him to haue done that which shee purposed to lay on Atanasius Since these the like matters haue bin in times past it is no marveile that the Devill of late shoulde stirre vp Cochleus or Bâ—…lsec or Staphilus against two such lampes of the ChristiaÌ„ world as Luther Calvine were who made such breaches into his strongest fortresses and freede so many prisoners from him Hee whome you tearme an Apostata was no otherwise such a one for leaving your Babylon then Saint Paule might have beene saide to be for relinquishing the x Phil. 3 5 Pharisees whom a long time he had followed And whereas you call him loose his behaviour all his time was strict and severe industrious and studious in penning and preaching much The heathen y Orat pro M. Caelio Tully could haue toulde you that he who would be an Oratour must cut of all licentiousnesse yea his needefull recreations with his most entier friendes Iudge if Luther did not so who hath lefte remaining after him such volumes of bookes as few men in any age haue lefte more But hee rubbed the Pope to the quicke and a horse which is gawled will wince And it was another of his faultes that hee touched the Monkes bellies as z Carion Chrâ—…ucts a Melan. l. 5. Erasâ—… said and therefore blame not them their friends if they doe their best to lash him One while with a Lib 4. Chronograph Genebrardâ—… hee shall bee the grand Antichrist or the nexte member to him because Luther as hee saith in Hebrew maketh 666. yet by by afterward the b In Apoe 13. 1â—… Rhemists of their gracious bounty and singular integrity professe to discharge him and quitte him of that honour VVhile hee was a Frier at Witemberge hee was a man without exception passing towardly and learned yea fit to take the highest degree in that Vniversity that is to say a Doctourshippe in Divinity but since he came out of Sodome it is now writen of him that c Persons censure on M Charâ—…e before he was a Frier he was striken in a medowe with a thunderbolt and being so frighted hee put himselfe into a Monasterie And there aftervvard reading in the Church the Gospell of the thirde Sundaie in Lente of the deafe and dumme Devill throvvne out by CHRIST he sodainely fell downe vppon the pavement and the Devill cryed horriblie out of his mouth saying I am not I am not dumme I will speake yet vnto the vvorlde So shamelesse are men in their improbable detamations vvhen they once make it their summum bonum to drawe people after them they care not in what manner There is no measure of lying there are no boundes for vntruth whereof Luther hath vvell tasted if ever any experimented it for doing GOD good service
the Catholike Church in other rites and doctrines Cochleus m Lib. 7. nameth no such condition Nay to shew that simply and directly it was yeelded vnto them he reporteth that the Legates of the Councell of Basile did thus expound that which was concluded in the Bohemians behalfe n Lib. 8. The Councell doth permitte the Eucharist vnder both kindes not tolerating it only as a thing evil as to the Iewes was permitted a bill of divorce but so that by the auctority of Christ his Church it is lawful profitable to the worthie receivers Where is it likely that vnlesse the Bohemians now after Husses death had bin a stroÌ„g party the Antichristian rabble would have yeelded to their importunitie so directlie against the Canon of the nexte precedent Councel Indeed the o Ibidem Emperour Sigismund did afterward take a course to lessen their nuÌ„ber when he sent many of them into Hungary against the Turks that there they might either conquering winne to him victories or being conquered themselues so be destroyed and perish Hee who list to see more concerning the multitude of these Professours let him but looke on p Hist. Bohâ—… ca 35. cap 50. Epist. 130. diverse places in the works of Aeneas Sylvius who was afterward Pope by the name of Pius 2. he shall finde him reporting of his own knowledge as travailing himselfe into Bohemia that they were many and very earnest also in their Religion 20 If here it should bee replyed that these perhaps were base people and of the vulgar who thus followed Iohn Hus but men of learning knowledge or persons of authority they had none to ioine with them the course of the story will easily cleere the same shew that they had both learned Pastours great Magistrats who beleeved as they beleeved stood wholy with theÌ„ Of what literature Hâ—… himselfe was is evident by his works yet remaining by his personal withstanding the whole CouÌ„cel of Constance And what learning what eloquence what memory all admirable were in Hierome of Prage as also with what singular patience he tooke his death is most significantly delivered in an q Ad Leonardum 〈◊〉 Epistle of Poggius who as an eie-witnes beheld him seemed to bee much affected with the singular partes of the man Which noble testimony of that worthy Poggius is acknowledged by r Lib 3. Cochleus While these two lived there were diverse s Lib 2. priests s Lib. 1. preachers which agreed in their Doctrine in their Sermons reproved the Popish Cleargy for their Simony keeping of Concubâ—… avarice riot secular-like pride But after the death of those two famous servaÌ„ts of God their t Lib. 4. followers got to them a Bishop who was Suffragane to the Arch-bishop of Prage and by him they put into holy Orders as many Clerkes as they would Which the Arch-bishop tooke so il that he suspended his Suffragane But it was not long before that u Lib. 5. CoÌ„radus the Arch-bishop himselfe became a Hussite also as the Author calleth him Vnder this Conradus as president of the assembly these Hussites held a CouÌ„cel at Prage in the year 1421. there they compiled a CoÌ„fessioÌ„ of their faith This Cause did the said Archbishop many Barons of Bohemia afterward stifly mainetaine and complained against the Emperor SigismuÌ„d for offring wrong to those of their Religion u Ibidem Alexander also the Duke of Lituania did giue these Hushtes aide which moved Pope Martin the 5 to write vnto him in this sort Know that thou couldst not giue thy faith to heretikes which are the â—…ors of the holy faith that thou dost sin deadly of thou shalt keepe it because there cannot bee any fellowship of a beleever with an insidel Thus did the vertuous Pope write In x Lib. 8. processe of time there grew a parley betweene Sigismund the Emperour the Bohemians There among the Compacts this was one that the Bishops should promote to holy Orders the Bohemians even Hussites which were of the Universitie of Prage And they might well deserue to be reputed Vniversity meÌ„ for Cochleus himselfe witnesseth that the Priests of the Thaborits were skilled in argâ—…g exercised in the holy Scripture y Lib. 10. Rokizana one of theÌ„ did vndertake to dispute with Capistranus a great learned Papist By that time that the yeare 1453. was come Aeneas Sylvius doth complaine that the kingdome of Bohemia was wholy z Lib. 11. governed by heretiks Now all the Nobility all the CoÌ„minalty is subiect to an heretike That was one George or Gyrziko Governor of the kingdome of Bohemia vnder king Ladâ—…slaus But when Ladâ—…slaus was dead this a Lib. 12. George himselfe was by the Nobles and the People chosen King of that country And continuing the auncient profession of his Religion about the yeare 1458 those of Uratislavia and Silesia doe refuse to obey him as being an heretike Notwithstanding Pope Pius the 2. then intending warres against tho Turke did by all meanes perswade theÌ„ that they should yeeld obedience to him This George saith the Authour was borne and brought vp in the heresie of the Hussites Now when Pope Pius did interpose himselfe as a mediatour betweene this King and his Subiects George did require of the Pope that he might keepe the Compacts agreed vpon at Basill in behalfe of the Bohemians And when b Ibidem Pius vvoulde not yeeld there-vnto the king calleth togither the Estates of his kingdome and protesteth that he would liue die in those Compacts so did also the Nobles which were Hussits This was done at Prage in the yeare 1462. This resolutenesse of his caused that Pope to tolerate many things in him but Paul 2. who succeeded in that See of Rome did excommunicate that king and set vp a Croisado against him Also he gaue to Matthias the king of Hungary the title of king of Bohemia c Apud Platin Onuphrius in the life of Paulus 2 saith that the Pope did excommunicate him depriue him of his kingdome Indeed for seaven years this George and Mathias did warre for it and Mathias got from him Moravia and Silesia and a good part of the kingdome of Bohemia Vratislavia also and some other Provinces and citties did put themselues in subiection of Mathias Yet did not George deale hardly with the Papists which were at Prage but in his greatest extremity did vse both the advise and aide of many Nobles of the Popish beleefe At length after the continuance of warre for seaven years d Cochl lib. 12. Mathias coÌ„cludeth a peace with king George both against the will of the Pope and the Emperour And then this king was coÌ„tent to aske of the Pope an absolution from the excommunication some Princes being mediatours for him in that respect But before the Agents could returne from Rome the king died in the yeare
most fine mony is that which lewd persons offer and attempt to resemble Thus the weakest Reader may beholde the vanity of the Doctours thirde Reason and see that their Vnity is against God ours is in God and for Christ and if there should be difference in actions amongst vs it is no other thing then was betweene m Act. 15. 39. Paule and Barnabas and if in opinions of great causes the foundation being surely held it is no more then was betweene n Gal. 2. 11. Peter and Paule and Saint o August Epist. 19. Hierome and Saint Augustine debating that fact of theirs and yet the one couple of those vvere Apostles and the other were great lampes in the Church even as both the Lutherans and Calvinists as you call them are in one article dissenting but both holding Christ crucified and the maÌ„ner of Iustification aright and al other circumstances belonging therevnto 18 I had thought here to haue ended this Chapter but I feare least our Seminarians at Rome my adversaaty himselfe should thinke that in so doing I did not them their right It is saide before that in the Papacy there is a generall vniformity in the peace of mens minds and to be breefe they haue all one heart one soule Would a man thinke this who readeth M. Parsons his Apologie of the Ecclesiasticall Hierarchy and subordination in Englandâ—… For to omit all matters before intimated of the schisme here between the Arch-Priest Seculars as also of all p The estate of Engâ—…ish fugit uâ—…s contentions betweene our English fugitiues in Italy Fraunce and the low Countries during her late Maiesties daies what horrible tumults haue there lately bin in the English Colledge alone at Rome q Apol. c. 5. There did the students bind theÌ„selues by othe not to liue any more vnder the government of the Iesuits Yea so vehement was the sedition once that like mad men they did runne out toward the Popes pallace but from his Holinesse that now is they were commaunded to retire to their lodgings They made many seditious sermons against their governours in the Colledge In the yeare 1596 when Car. dinall Sega prefixed his letters signifying his intent by a Visitation to looke into them they disgracefully tore his letters Among these gallants perhaps was our M. Hill but then not Doctour but knowne by the name of Thomas Hill Priest although afterward he if it were he cryed Creake for it and togither with fiue other Priests was induced to write to Aqua viva the Generall of the Iesuits a solemne letter of thankes because in the yeare 1507. he left father Parsons to take vp controversies in the Colledge at Rome And the same r May 15. 1597. commendations of father Persons appeasing all did Thomas Hill write to D. Kâ—…on Vice-president of the Colledge at Doway But yet the Iesuites are not too forward to attribute much credite vnto this Thomas for it is but a poore testimony which the Rectour there giveth him we doe not heart but Hill hath behaved himselfe wel since But he affirmeth that before time hee was vehement against the fathers vpon errour and evill informed zeale as may be supposed I make some doubt whether that Hill mentioned in the Apologie be my Doctor or no because as I am informed there were two in the Seminary called by the name of Thomas Hill One of this two desiring to be fine before that he was handsome would needes in imitation of the Italian Friers teach his Auditours in his Sermons how they should fly in a coach to heaven whereof this coach must bee made what ones the horses should be that must draw it wherewithall they must be fed such other stuffe till that his hearers did laugh at his eloquence and deride his discretion This later do I suppose to be the Authour of this volume In all this forenamed controversie I do not much finde any vniformity in the peace of mens mindes or one heart and one soule This preaching one against another did shew the contrary thervnto But yet that other preaching long since did shew it mere when as the Waldenses did coÌ„plaine the followers of the Pope in s Confes. Wald. In fascic rer expetenda their sermons did call one another schismatikes heretikes sacrilegious false Prophets ravening wolues the beast and whore in the Apocalypse This of all likelyhood did shew diversity and distraction in doctrine And shall we not imagine that so it was when thirteene s Benno Card. de vita Greg. 7. Cardinals seeing the Apostasie of Hildebrand or Pope Gregory the seventh did depart froÌ„ his Communion that is would not be partakers of the Eucharist where he was to communicat If I should vrge any more examples it should be of the Iesuites who are charged in ordinary practise to dissent from the rest of the Popish Church in Fraunce in more then fifty matters Some of them may wel be said to be points doctrinal as these t Iesuit Cat. Lib. 2. 1. that the Pope is not vnder any Generall or Oecumenicall Councell that the Pope is Prince of all kingdomes as well in matters temporall as spirituall that the kings of Fraâ—…ce may bee excommunicated by the Popes that the Pope according to the occasions of matters may transferre not only kingdomes but the Empire 〈◊〉 that Clergy men may not bee iudged by a secular Iudge although they keepe not civill lawes that the rebellion of a Cleargy man against his Prince is not high treason because he is not subiect to the Prince that a king may be deposed by the State for tyranny and if he doe not his duety when there is iust cause another may be chosen by the greater part of the people yea thâ—…gh they haue swâ—…e perpetuall obedience to him that Iesuits admit of the Councell of Trente These with their circumstaÌ„ces are high points of doctrine maintained and defended by the Iesuits but oppugned by the Papists of Fraunce and other nations which are not Iesuited so that now they may in these respects haue safely more bels then one ring to their Sermons contrary to that which Staphilus woulde haue taught Smideline when he said thus u Apolog. Fridir Staphyl Sâ—…deline should learne of the parish Clerke why when he ringeth to Sermon he ringeth but one â—…ell but to Eâ—…song or Service he ringeth many at once both great and â—…ll The ringing 〈◊〉 bell to Sermon represâ—…th the Unity of the Catholike faith taught at Sermons which ought to be but onâ—… and vniforme in all men â—…t the â—…angling of many diverse bels to coâ—… praier signifieth the diversity of men some praying fervently some coldly some serving God one way some another The difference of the Iesuits froÌ„ other Papists will safely permit them to ring to their Sermons more 〈◊〉 then one And so I come now to the next Chapter THE FOVRTH REASON Conversion of Countreyes T. HILL IT 〈◊〉 most plâ—…ne and
Admirall with a Pistole at the cruell Battlemewtide in Paris And when that wounde proved not to be mortall did not he in person come to his lodging at midnight send vp cut-throates to murther him VVas it not the Popish crewe wherein by greate probability King Philip himselfe and the Duke of Parma also had a finger who first procured x Dinoth de bel civil Belgie li. 5. lauregny to shoote the Prince of Orenge with a Dagge and some yeares afterward Balthazar with the like weapon to kill him If ought could be saide for these things yet what can be answered for the death of K. y Meterran Hist lib. 5. Henry the 3. of France one of your own religion who was stabbed by the Frier And this fact was not only liked of by infinite numbers of Papists in France yea and as it should seeme z See the Franc. discourse defended also by publike preaching and writing but it was allowed of by the Pope and his Cardinals bone-fires and processions vvere made for it at Rome yea Sixtus Quintus made a solemne publike Oration in gratulatioÌ„ of the good event a De interdicto Regn Franciae edit Francosurti Anno. 1591 pronouÌ„cing that Clement the Iacobine who perpetrated that vilany was worthy not only to be reputed a Martyr but to be reckoned a Saint All the Papists in the world name the example of such a deede atteÌ„pted or atchieved by the ProtestaÌ„ts yea or that which may come nere it by 1000. degrees And was there not in like sort an intendmeÌ„t of b Iesuit Catech li. 3. 6. Barriere for the slaughtering of the present K. Henry the 4. which was a second time put in practise by c Cap. 8. Chastel a scholer of the Iesuits who assaulted somewhat hurt the same King For this cause by an Arrest of the Parliament of Paris there was made a decree against the Iesuits banishing theÌ„ out of Fraunce as also before the pallace in that Imperial City a d Cap. 20. Pyramis was erected which containeth a narratioÌ„ of the same This Edict was ratified by the highest court of France which yet notwithstanding consisteth most of Papists the force of the Edict standeth yet vpright albeit besides infinite other meanes e La Saincte Messe declar In praefat ad Regem Richeome the Iesuit hath made such a flattering clawing petitioÌ„ to the king in behalfe of his Society hath to win her favor also f Tableaux Sacrez des figures mystiques preseÌ„ted dedicated a braue baby book of the Masse to the Q. Mary de Medices now Regnant that her Highnes withal honorable favour would secoÌ„d their request CaÌ„ English meÌ„ forget that which in the name of his holines was by the g Differ between christiaÌ„ subiect D. Bilson part 3 Cardinal of Como signified to D. Parry by letter that to kil our late Soveraign a womaÌ„ a Princes was not only lawful but had his merit in heaveÌ„ caÌ„ it be out of memory that h Meterran lib. 13. BabingtoÌ„ the rest of the resolute GeÌ„tlemeÌ„ should violeÌ„tly haue slain her but that god did divert it her Honorab CouÌ„sel did discover it who was the chief leader here but i Answer to the Manifestat cap. 3. Ballard a Priest RecusaÌ„ts must be the Actors You know we could tell you of more English thus Italionated and so growne according to the Proverbe Divels incarnated who haue atteÌ„pted other such lewdenesses All this while then you have great reason to talke of Beza his Pistoles a matter wherein is no ground of truth when as some of your k La verite defend vide 〈◊〉 disc bookes do directly tende that way and many of the vndoubted actions of diverse of your side doe testifie that you and not we are the onely Prince-murtherers and traiterous King-assaulters that bee or ever were in the world which I would have vnderstood of the Jesuited factioÌ„ The Lord deliver our present Soveraigne from you as frequently in miraculous manner hee preserved his late gracious hand-maiden Elizabeth T. HILL NEither doe they take any other course in their proceedings but to destroy States kingdomes to displace lawfull Monarchies and Magistrates as the lowe-Countries Germany and Scotland can sufficiently witnes and ever then beginning is of pride and envy as Luthers was or by abusing themselves in their former estate as Sir Iohn Calvine did or by yeelding themselves slaues to ambition as they did in Scotland or by following Lust and Lechery or of some such like brutish occasion and never indeede vpon any ground vsing their religion onely as a serveturne wheÌ„ other meanes faile to atcheeve their vnlawfull desires G. ABBOT 17 IN this Chapter you continue so like your selfe that a maÌ„ should bee behoulding to you if you would speake but one true word The Reader perhaps will wonder that I take such paines with you to lay you so plainely open but if I could tell howe I would purge you of that l Ps. 140 3. poison of Adders which is vnder your lippes At least I would let both your frieÌ„ds strangers see what a maÌ„ of your word you are But it is fit that Papistes should be such as write they care not what Good Sir I pray you what State or kingdome hath bin overthrowen by vs you may see if you please that Fraunce hath bin kepte vp by the aide of England the Germane Princes and Switzers that when King m MeterraÌ„ Histor l 14 Henry the 3. was like to be beateÌ„ out of his king â—…ome by the Guizes Barricadoes at Paris by the vile coÌ„bination of the vnholy League the King theÌ„ of Navarre the ProtestaÌ„ts were the only men to whoÌ„ safely he might fly for succour And if the King that now is would declare his own mind he must acknowledge that the safety of his Realme Person doth not least of all depend on the fidelity circumspection vigilancy of hâ—…s Hugvenots The kingdome of Denmarke was never so potent nor so orderly governed as it is at this day since religion there flourished Since the Gospell hath had free course heere England may truly be said for felicity all humane happines to be the peerelesse paragone of the whole world At the moderation of superiours at the obedience of inferiours that the people every way are fouÌ„d so n Iud. 5. 〈◊〉 9. willing stand amazed al you fugitiues ill-willers to your countrie And especially that when you though that at the death of your late Prince you should have had your long ex pected lubilee all this â—…and should haue beene as the field 〈◊〉 bloud stand agast to heare how with vniformity of hart 〈◊〉 all the good subiects of this land did conioyne to exprâ—… 〈◊〉 ioy that they might have such a Lord Governoâ—…r as now by cods mercy they enioy They were not glad that they weâ—… quâ—…t
care is to instruct their pretended coÌ„verts in those far distant regions may well be coÌ„ceived by that which they informe to their own countrymen living there-about who are much more furnished with wicked devises leading them the ready high way to daÌ„nation then with ought which belongeth to true Christianity For example sake within these three or four yeares s Ibid. p. 75. some HollaÌ„ders passing the South sea came neere to the Iland Manilla where certaine Spaniards then inhabiting would needs entertaine them with an eager fight at sea Divers of these warriours entring the Hollanders ship were slaine among theÌ„ there were fiue found who had about them certain boxes of silver Which being opened there were in theÌ„ little rowles or schedules beset with charmes or diabolicall consecrations whereby they supposed themselues safe froÌ„ all weapons For saith the Author they are oftentimes instructed by their Priests concerning suchingâ—…ing trickes whereby it commeth to passe that by their divelish superstitions such as haue sworne faith to the Pope in these places are much more defiled then very they who line in the middle of Rome or Spaine With what acornes are these Nuoves Christianes fedde when in these remote regions Spanyards theÌ„selues are dieted with such husks This is the propagation of Christianity whereof you speake the abusing and profaning of the Sacrament of Baptisme by communicating it to them whose best profession is ignorance superstition idolatry wilfull obstinacy against the truth if it should be reveiled vnto them T. HILL ANd to name somewhat more in particular some Countries in which it is happily received of many of not vniversally of all but yet in many lands it is received of the greatest part of the inhabitants in Goa in Malabar in Cochin in Bazain in ColaÌ„ in Tana in DamaÌ„ in Ciaul in Coran in Salsetta in Pescaria in Manar in TravaÌ„cor in Cogiro in Bugen in Cicungo in Cicugne in Oian in Gomotto in Gensura in Xichi in Ormuz in Ternate in Momoia in Ambonio in Macazar in Cerignano in Siligan in Butuan in PimiliraÌ„ in Camigu in Supa in Stan in Bacian in Solar in Malacca in Tidor in Selebi and in the Ilands of S. Thomazo S. Domingo Madera in al those innumerable Islands which the king of Spaine there possesseth So that the Catholike Romane religion hath had and hath yet a far greater sway in the world then any othar religion ever had or hath G. ABBOT 15 Our Papists do imagine that they haue to do with none but fools therfore they think to serue theÌ„ therafter They beleeue that if we heare a few great words lustily buÌ„basted we wil stoope saile 〈◊〉 sently come in as ships vnder a Castle for fear of a peale of ordinance Such a devise was that when to credit Abdisu the Patriarke before named and in him the Popes prerogatiue s Gentill in exam Concil Tâ—…deÌ„t Sess 21. they gaue strange formidable names to the Bishopricks Arch-bishopricks fained to be vnder him as Sirava Hancava Meschiara Chiarucbia Cuchia Durra Goa Salamas Baumar Schiabathan Vastan Calicuth Macâ—…hazin Carangol and other such braue appellations which being like coniuring words when any one should heare he durst not for one daies space come with in forty foote of the stake Is not this somewhat like that of the bragging souldiour t Plautus in Milite glorioso in campis Gurgustidonijs Vbi Bombomachides Cluninstaredysarchides Erat Imperator summus Neptune nepos I tel you D. Hil such devises as this of yours is but for children when out of some Portingale merchants remembrances or from the Index of some writer or some such other mocke matter you tel vs what towns or angels of the maine or what litle Ilands the Portingales haue theÌ„selues in the East Indies â—…or some of the Iesuits haue gone thither or some pedlers haue bin in the markets there A towne with you is a city a city a couÌ„try a skirt of some li. tle province is a land or a kingdome an Ilande like Garnesey or Gersey is a matter as much as Sicely or great Britaine one in the quality of a gentlemaÌ„ is a Prince a pety coÌ„mander like a meane West-Indian Cacike is a potent king or Emperour You begin with Goa as if it were some huge region wheras it is but a u Maffcus Hist. Indic li. 4. city appointed indeed by Albuquercius to be the Impettall chaÌ„ber for the dominion of the Portingales in the East Indies It standeth on the hither side of India some thing North froÌ„ Calicut on the Westerne side of that great Promontory which is neerest of al India to Ormus and to the Persian bay or Gulfe u Idem lib. 1 Osor. lib. 2. Malabar is the general name of the CouÌ„try toward the bottome of the Promontory before meÌ„cioned the chiefe city wherof is Calecut x Maf lib 1. Cochin is the city of a poore Prince by Calecut y Li. 9. Bazain a towne of Cambaia 5 or 6. daies iourny Nothward froÌ„ Goa z Lib. 2. Coian a city distant froÌ„ Cochin 24. leagues toward the South a Lib. 9. Tana or Tanaba a litle towne nere Bazain b Lib. 11. Daman another town nere it being on the coast of CaÌ„baia c Lib. 4. Ciual or Chanla a city fast by those last spokeÌ„ of d Lib. 14. CoraÌ„ is the temple of Maâ—…met at Ormus but you mean e Lib. 2. Coromandel in India where it is said that S. Thomas the Apostle did long agoe preach f Lib 11. Salsetta is a little Iland lying neere Bazain It should seeme that there is more then one of theÌ„ g Lib 3. 12 Pescaria or Piscaria is a little sea coast about the bottome of Malaca lyeth more toward the East h Lib. 12. Manar a little Iland nere therevnto i Lib. 12. TravaÌ„cor a small kingdome on the west side of the lowest part of Malaca Of Cogiro Bugen vnlesse you meane k Lib. 12. Bunge a pety kingdome in Iapan Cicungo Cieâ—…gne I finde no mention euhere there be no such places or they be so base that no good Auâ—…hour doth mention them or els you haue mis-written them l Lib. 3. Oia or Oian is a meane city neere Melinde in Africke Your Gomotto perhaps is put for m Lib. 12. Goto or Gotum a small Ilande nere Iapan So I take your Gensura to bee and the rather because it is put nexte Xichâ—… or n Ibidem Xichâ—…cum one of the three chiefe parts of Iapan o Lib. 3. Ormuz we know to be an iland and city neere the entrance into the gulfe of Persia. p Lib. 5. Ternate is one of the fiue Molucco Ilands and so is q Lib. 10. Tidor also which anone followeth Momoia is a towne in a little Ile called Morum Ambonio or rather r Lib. 5. Amboinus is a small I le neere the Moluccos So it
s Lib. 10. Macazar Not far from thence is s Lib. 10. Cetigano you terme it Cerignano one of the Ilands called Celebes Siligan is a town Butuan Piâ—…iliran and Camigu three things called kingdomes but all these t Ibidem foure within the Ile Mindanaus u Lib. 12. Supa is a small place nere 〈◊〉 Sian and that is an Iland towne beyond the Promontory of Malaca turning vp farre to the North. u Lib. 8. Bacian is one of the Moluccos Solar or rather x Lib. 16. Solor is an I le about 300. leagues froÌ„ Malaca being 8. degrees distant from the Aequator toward the South y Lib. 1. Malacca is a citty in that Promontory of India which was wont to be called Aurea Chersonesus is now tearmed Malaca of the city Selebi or rather z Lib. 8. Celebes is principally one Iland nere the Equinoctial but other adioining haue that name coÌ„municated to theÌ„ Thus haue we ended all that be nere to the East Indies The Iland of S. a Osor. Hist. li 3. Thomazo or S. Thomas lyeth directly vnder the Aequinoctial line over against that part of Africa which is tearmed Manicongo or rather a little higher theÌ„ it That which you name S. Domingo is it which in Latin is called b Pet. Mart. Decad. 1. 2. Dominica having that appellation given to it because it was discovered on a Sunday which in Latin is named Dies Dominicus It lieth toward America but much neerer vs then Hispaniola doth and it was one of the Ilands where the Caribes or Canibals did dwell before the comming of ColuÌ„bus toward the West Indies c â—…d Decad. 1. l. 6. Madera is one of the fortunat or Canary IlaÌ„ds lying some few daies iourny South-west ward froÌ„ Spaine You might if it had pleased you haue added the rest of the Canaries and the Azores as also all that lie neere America as Cuba and Hispaniola and many about them also the Philippinas and I cannot tell what But my conceite is that you went no farther because the Author or Copy which you followed weÌ„t no farther For I deale plainly with you I do not hold you gilty of the knowing where al these places be And yet it were no huge labor in the reading over of such an Authour as the d Hist. India aut select Epistol Iesuit Maffeus is to take the wordes heere and there as hee relateth the comming in of the Portingales or the pretended labours of his felowes But I smell it to be borrowed from some other man as your e RatioÌ„ 3. enumeratioÌ„ of Heretikes was from Staphilus In which respect I call to minde howe once on a New-yeares day in the morning a Parish-Clarke in Oxford brought to the Minister of that Parish certaine Latin verses as a token for the Newe yeare The Minister seeing them before he reade them said that hee thaÌ„ked him for his paines but added that he did not thinke that he could haue made a Latin verse The Clarke with an humble smile looking on did no way deny but that the verses were his owne But when the other had reade them he altered his opinion and tolde him that they were taken out of a Printed booke It is true indeede saith the Clarke but Sir I tooke the paines to write them out for you Even so much paines have you taken ignorantly from some ignorant fellowes collections to write these names out for vs. 16. I am induced to think so not only because you have played such pageants before but much rather because a sober man may wel thinke that if you had known what you did or had had any true vnderstaÌ„ding of the matter you wold never have made such a clatter to so small a purpose For it may well be supposed that there be no such places as some are named by you some other of them are so meane as that to this day they never could finde place in any mappe whatsoever published to the worlde Onely they are mentioned by one Iesuite who cannot lye and he maketh every meane man a King if he once parled with a Iesuite he shall want no title You have reckoned vs vp heere one and forty names many of them in themselves small base and inferiour things if diverse of them be ordinarily tearmed Kingdoms yet the whol couÌ„try is not so great as a prety shire in England some of the Ilands are as meane as the I le of Wight is If you will stand on it that these be kingdomes yet wee can make you answere that very many of the Kings of the East couÌ„try are Lordes but as over moale-hils and so it was some thousands of yeeres agone f Gen. 14. 2. You may reade of the King of Sodome and of the Kinge of Gomorah as also of the Kinge of Admah and of the Kinge of Zeboim and yet all these lived vvithin a small compasse of ground For the one and forty names which you note vnto vs you may reade of g Iosu. 12. 9. one and thirty Kinges indeede with whom Iosuah had to deale and yet all their dominion was so within Canaan that the territories of all their regiment was not so much as England alone without Scotland ioyned to it And yet if an ignorant man shoulde heare the names of all those Kinges as they are set downe by Iosua he would looke as much about him as one of your silie Papists doth at those heere in your booke To let them therefore know how you egregiously abuse them you haue said as much as if I should speake in this sort His Maiesty of England hath a great many good subiects I begin to give the instance in Suffex because I heare that this Pamphlet is much in request among backward people there as in the great city of Chichester in Arundel in Rye and in many other good places there about Also in Sandwich with all the Cinque portes and the liberties of the same yea in the Iles of Shepy and Tenet with other lying at the landes end fast by Essex yea adde herevnto Hul New-castle vpon Tine the strong towne of Barwike And if a man should tel this to some vnlettered Italian who lyeth a great way hence he might be made to wonder but the truth were no very high matter Thus it is with these places named which are onely cities townes or angles standing along the sea coast vpon the shore of the Indies and interrupted or intersorted with heathenish dominions or else they are Ilands in the selfe same quality And in many of these if there were some said to be baptised 20. or 40. yeares agone or if there be now but 5. Portingales or Spanyards which keepe a shop or ware-house yet there is the Romish faith Which our Author who never vseth but to cast at All as it seemeth doth acknowledg wheÌ„ coÌ„trary to his custome he hath an extenuation It is happilie received of
that although he were willing to paint himselfe without he was quite rotteÌ„ within And whither for waÌ„t of his prety staruling pensioÌ„ froÌ„ Spaine after that illustrious foile he might not be much humbled in the heigth of his prowd thoughts it is hard to tel Such a maÌ„ner of man was one of the fathers of the Seminary 19 As for Persons the present Rector his mind is nothing inferiour to the others albeit his degree be in a ranke behinde him But that is his owne fault too for his b The copies of certaine discourses extorted fol. 116. fellowes here tell vs that it vvas reported heere in Englande that all the boyes at Saint Omars had conspired to make Persons a Cardinall and had vvritten such effectuall letters to the Pope for it that hee the Generall of the Iesuites and all his friendes in Rome vvere little enough to keepe him from beeing a Cardinall VVell his hearte for Englande is as good as any of his Predecessours c Answere to thinges coÌ„cerning him in the Apology Doctour Bagshâ—…vve sayeth directly that hee perswaded the Students at Rome that they should have at state and all for vvith state-medling they coulde but die and die they shoulde vvithout state medling if they were taken If vvee vvill not trust that Doctor as one professing some hostility toward him let his Greene-coate concerning the Earle of Leicester another Common-wealth of his touching another greate and vvorthy man that dead is speake in their masters behalfe His Doleman sheweth him to haue nothing in him but bastard English bloud And that is the more manifested by his labouring the Students in Spaine and at Rome to consent to the title of the Lady Infanta What affection he cariyed to our late most blessed Soveraigne his short but substantiall approving of the iudgement of Allen Sanders Bristow and Stapleton touching the Bull of Pius the 5. in his d Cap. 4. Ward-word doth declare It is also laid to his charge that he sollicited a man of e Quodl 7. 2 high place in this kingdome to be a close Pensioner to the late king of Spaine to further his invasision He f Apol. c. 12. challengeth to himselfe these bookes The reasons of refusall of going to the Protestants Churches the Epistle of persecution both in Latin and English the defence of the Censure against M. Charke and these shew that all his wits and study were then bent on the one side to supplant the religion that we professe but on the other side to defame the honour of his Prince and country and of all the chiefe officers of Iustice in the same and with such suttletics to steale away the harts of many subiects from them His resolutions g Solutiones 〈◊〉 P. in his pretended Cases of conscience as they are impious so are they most pernicious to the state But the lesse they are there to be wondred at since he openly laboureth in h 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 1â—… his Apology to mainetaine falshoods and lying dissembling A quivocations with little lesse then blasphemy to our most holy Saviour His ManifestatioÌ„ hath many proper things in it as being that where he sheweth himselfe without a vizarde This is hee who hath had in Spaine and nowe hath at Rome the training vp of those vvho are and must bee our Seminarye Priestes the only Arch-traitour now remaining aliue and to be balanced by none vnlesse peradventure it is but peradventure D. Gifford may be the man I might adde to these as great men at Doway in their times Bristow and Stapleton The one sheweth himselfe a rebell in hart by his i Cap. 15. Motiues which booke D. Allen did allovv to the Presse And how far the other that is old chollerike bitter Stapleton the k Apol. c. 9. learnest man living of our Countrey if vve will beleeue Fa. Persons was engaged in these matters his manifold virulent aspersions scattered in his bookes against his naturall Prince and some personages of high worth do abundantly testifie Such are the teachers Readers and Governours of the Seminaries and such an honest man is Weston at Doway nowe if he be yet at Doway where no doubt they traine vp their Students in good meditations Which I may the rather say if that be true which l Colliar one of their owne company delivered to me to bee so of his own knowledge while he was there in D. Barrets time As our Students in our Colledges haue vsed to make verses and to fixe them vp on the skreenes or elsewhere publikely on the day of her late Maiesties comming to the Crowne so they had sometimes at Doway when they made verses in like sort whither on the day before named I do not remember In this case the invention of one of their gracious strudents was to speake of the three furies in hel Alecto Megaera and Tisiphone whose vertues when with his Poetry he had described hee addeth at last that there was nowe of late a fourth come in Furiarum Quarta whose description he maketh accordingly And this lewd devise was much commended by the Superiours there albeit he plainly designed her for whom by the laws of God man they vvere rather bound to haue spent their best bloud then that the least dishonourable thought concerning her should haue entred into their hâ—â—t And who will wonder that the fruites of such persons doe shew what the roote is whervpon they do sit We may adde to these things abroad the experience which wee haue had at home of Babingtons Somerviles Squires and such vngodly miscreants who incited by Ballard and other sent from the Seminary haue attempted most horrible treasons to the hazarding of the happines of this whole kingdome And were not our state blind if they could not gesse the minde of the souldiors by such captaines the disposition of such scholers by their tutours the affection of the Priests by such Superiours especially since they dayly saw in our owne land that such as had to doe with these emissaries and secret creepers did testifie that they had touched some m Eccl 13. 〈◊〉 pitch being quickly alienated if not in open action yet in apparant affectioÌ„ from therest of the Realme And might not all religious folkes haue groaned in their soules all good subiects haue lamented in their harts if some severe proviso had not beene made to restraine the audacious comming in and the ravenous dissipations of persons so intending mischiefe It should haue beene an vnrecompensable weakenesse to haue permitted such incendiaries to bring all to combustion and our magistrates in the meane time to haue stood by the houses of themselues their neighbours being on fire and to haue thought it a pretty thing to stand and warme themselues by the flame But they being inspired by a better spirit did make good wholsome lawes inhibiting the approaching of such dangerous guests or if they would not forbeare paying them the
you would haue laid freely at them Dare you strangers and captiues and boyes and vpstart companions set your selfe against a million of wise men Princes and Counselours They should haue had your voice to haue gone to the fiery Furnace Doe you not pity your selfe when you reason in this fashion Among them that be wise pendenda sunt suffragiapetius quà m numeraÌ„da voices are to be weighed rather then to be numbred I can say no more vnto you but that when this is your best Divinity Lorde haue mercy vpon you Saint Austen would haue tolde you for o Epist. 19. all these and aboue all these we haue the Apostle Paule T. HILL NEither may the Protestants now at length glory in their great number as some of them haue done for that their Religion is there in England and in Scotland and some thereof in â—…aland and in the Lowe Countries and in some partes of Germany and a few of them in Fraunce Apol. Eccl. Anglic. for they never yet passed into Asia nor into Africa nor into Greece nor into many places of Europe much lesse into the Indies But indeede if you rightly scanne their doctrine you shall finde that your Religion ProtestaÌ„tine of England is no where in the world else and that English service contained in your booke of Common praier is vnknowne and condemned of all other Nations and people vnder the cope of Heaven So that in very deed the doctrine of your Protestantes is taught or received no vvhere but in England and the Puritant Doctrine of Scotlande the contrariety therof duely considered is no where but in Scotlande the Lutherane Doctrine taught in Denmarke is no where but in Denmarke and in a few places of Germany the Libertine doctrine taught in the Low Countries is no â—…here but in the Low Countries and the like may be said of other sectes G. ABBOT 26 YOV are mis enformed that the Protestants doe glorie in their great number they know that truth is truth be iâ—… in more or few As for M. Iewell whose Apologie you quote in your margent hee hath no such matter Onely where as it is obiected that our Religion overturneth kingdoms and governmentes hee answereth there vnto that there p Apol. Eccl. Anglican doe remaiue in their place and ancient dignitie the Kings of England Denmarke Sweden the Dukes of Saâ—…cony the Cunties Palatine c. This is to answere to an obiection by giving many instances to the contrary and not to glory of any multitude And if any other of our Church do note in breefe that the Gospell hath taken roote in some large nations that is to stop the mouth of the clamorous adversary and to satisfie the weake as also not least of all to praise God who so spreadeth the beames of his compassion but it is not to boast vainely as you ignorantly imagine Yet who doubteth but a good Christian may ioy in his hart exceedingly and thankfully expresse it in his tongue that many who sate in darkenesse may now behold the light and the sheepefold of Christ is more and more filled But if we would be too forward you will plucke vs backe againe Although it be say you in some places of Europe yet in some other it is not As who should say your Popery is generall in all Where I pray you in Greece is your Papistry It is not in Asia and Africa and much lesse in the Indies The East Indies are part of Asia if you could think vpon it By what means your Idolatry came into those Countries I haue shewed before and how plentifully there it is If we would talke idly as you for the most part doe we might say that in every place where the Marchants of Holland trade and haue people residing our religion is accepted But since the English Merchants haue companies houses in Russia in Constantinople in Aleppo in Alexandria sometimes in Barbary in Zacynthus in Venice and Legorne we might say after the fashion of your boasting that our religion is in those parts But we desire to make no more of things then indeede they are Yet we tell you for those remote provinces that as now one hundred and twenty yeeres agone they knewe not one whit of your faith so it may please God before one hundred and twenty yeeres more bee passed if it so seeme good to his most sacred wisedome to plant the truth which we reach in the East Westerne world especially if a passage by the North ende of America or that by Asia beyond Ob may bee opened vvherein our q M. Hacluiâ—… vnges Nation hath much adventured and speng good summes of treasure vvhich also the Hollanders haue done But the issue of this whole matter must bee leste to the divine providence which is to bee magnified therefore if hee adde this blessing to his Church And if he deny it either there or in any other place we must not be caried too farre with griefe or pitty since it doth not please him who is the father of mercie to condescend vnto it Nowe vvhereas you avouch that our doctrine is onelye in England I knovve not vvhither I shoulde put that in your ignoraunces or rather in your malicious cavils Truth it is our common prayer booke is vsed onelye by those who are of Englishe allegeaunce but is there anie pointe of doctrine in it vvherevnto other Churches reformed in Europe doe not condescend The Catechisme of the Councell of Trent doth differ in words from the Catechisme of Canisius and both of them from that of M. Vaux yet you would thinke it a wronge if anye man should tell you that they disagree in pointes of doctrine So the service of the reformed Congregations in Europe as in England Scotland Fraunce Switzerland in the dominion of the Palsgraue in the Regiments and free cities of Germany which are of the Pallsgraues confession as also in a good parte of the low Countries is the same in all pointes of moment not differing one intâ—… their Professions are the same There is no question among these in anie one pointe of religion The Ecclesiasticall policy being different as in some places by Bishops in some other wâ—…thout them doth not alter ought of faith The Apostles in that they were Apostles had a kinde of governement vvhich the Church had not afterward in the very same particular In the auncient Church some cities and Countreyes vvere immediately ruled by a Patriarke Grande Metropolitane some other by an inferiour Bishoppe vvho was subiected to the greater yet they all might agree in the faith The cheefe at Rome immediately is the Pope at Millaine for spirituall thinges the Arch-bishoppe in some places bee but Suffragaines in some other Iurisdictions a Deane or Priour by Privilege hath almost Papall auctoritie vvhich also in times past vvas in the Chauncellours or Vice-chauncellours of our English Vniversities some fewe thinges beeing excepted and reserved Yet will you say that these doe differ in
bee iustified That it is most true which S. Paule hath that a man is iustified by faith without workes because no works done before beleeving helpe toward iustification but that in beleeving actually a man is reputed iust before God that if he die immediatly having no time to worke yet he by beleeving is iustified Notwithstanding that if he liue he ought to bring forth good fruit His coÌ„clusion is that S. Paule doth speake of workes going before faith S. Iames speaketh of works following that faith which hath iustified And a right beleefe wil not be without them if it have time to shew it selfe I might heere adde how frequent a thing it is with diverse Doctors of the Church to vse the word of onely faith in speaking of our IustificatioÌ„ but of that hereafter TheÌ„ to shew that neither Luther nor we need feare the Epistle of S. Iames as crossing our other doctrine we say that S. Paule doth speake of acceptatioÌ„ to be iust S. Iames intendeth a declaration that we are iustified the one beateth on that before God where the setled apprehension of faith prevaileth which notwithstaÌ„ding wil not be without his convenient fruit the other mentioneth that before men who know not the hart but must iudge of that which is externall therefore it is rightly said by the Apostle in their persons s 〈◊〉 2. 18. Shew mee thr faith out of thâ—…e owne workes 3 Whom you meane by the of-spring of Luther we caÌ„not telt but if al who refuse those books be termed his of-spring his children shal be a thousand yeeres elder then himselfe for many of the most ancieÌ„t fathers did disclaime the books of Tobias Ecclesiasticus the Machabees for being Canonical if the rule of s Hist Ecol lib 3. 19 Eusebius he good as no wise maÌ„ wil deny it that the Canonical volumes may be distiguished froÌ„ the Apocryphal suppositious by the iudgmeÌ„t of the church by the stile by the matter purpose of the books they had great reasoÌ„ not to acknowledge theÌ„ for the Church vniformly did never admit theÌ„ they are not writteÌ„ in the language of the Iews to whoÌ„ t Rom. 3 2. were coÌ„mitted the Oracles of God therfore if they were part of Gods Oracles before the comming of Christ these Iewes should haue admitted them and retained them which they did not and the matter of them is but meane and ignoble in comparisoÌ„ of the vndoubted Scripture What a doubtful narration is that in u Cap. 6. 17 Tobias that a spirite should smell a perfume when spirits haue no flesh bones by the testimony of u Luc 24. 39 Christ himselfe coÌ„sequeÌ„tly no organes of scÌ„e that the hart liver of a fish should drive away the Devil Which if it were so S. Peter was much overseene when he taught vs how to repulse SathaÌ„ by x 1 Pet. 5 9. resisting him being stedfast in the faith For it had bin an easier way to have said get you the hart liver of such a fish make a perfume with it he dareth not come nigh you And this would wel haue beseemed S. Peter to set men to catch such fish in remeÌ„brance of his owne occupatioÌ„ since himselfe was a fisher But what if yong Toby had met with such a spirit as those were of whom Christ saith y Matth. 17. 21. This kind goeth not out but by fasting and praier The treatise called Ecclesiasticus if for any cause it should come into the Canon it must be for Salomons sake whom many would haue to bee the authour of it But the Preface it selfe remaineth confessing it to be the worke of Iesus Sirachs sonne of another Iesus his grande-father and the booke meÌ„tioneth z Cap 48. 46. Elias Ezechias Iosias Ieremy diverse other who lived hundreds of yeeres after Salomon And howe questionable a narration is that in it that a Cap 46. 20 Samuel should tell of Saules death after his owne burial which as diverse learned men thinke is a report to be beleeved in NecromaÌ„cy rather theÌ„ in Divinity For if the souls of the righteous being departed be in the haÌ„d of God which our Romanists must coÌ„fesse out of the booke of b Cap 3. 1 Wisdome we do beleeue out of the saying of David c Psal 31. 5. Into thine haÌ„d I coÌ„mend my spirit if those who die in the Lord d Apoc 14 13 do rest froÌ„ their labors how shal we suppose that the soule of such an excelleÌ„t Prophet as Samuel was might be at the coÌ„mand of so base vile a witch to be fetched froÌ„ heaven at her pleasure Or what rest shal other faithfull men and women bee imagined to haue after this life if Necromancers VVitches and Coniurers haue such power over them Albeit therefore that some of the auncient speaking according to the e 1. Sam 2â—… 15 letter of the texte doe name him who appeared Samuel because hee came vp in the likenesse of Samuel as f Epistol 80. Basile when hee saith that the VVitch raised Samuel from the deade and some other not sifting the pointe doe affirme it to bee the soule of Samuel himselfe as g Antiquit. 6. 15 Iosephus the lewe and h Dialog 〈◊〉 Tryphon Iustinus Martyr yet other more exactly looking into it tell vs otherwise as S. Austen when he calleth that which appeered i De doctr Christ lib. 24 23. the image of Samuel and especially Basile who elsewhere more advisedly pronounceth that k Basil in 〈◊〉 cap 8. they were Devils which hissing with their voice did transforme themselues into the habite and person of Samuel Yea l Chron l 1 Genebrard himselfe maketh a great doubt whither it were Samuel or no and citeth Tertullian and diverse other of the Auncients resolving the contrary As for the bookes of Machabees there be many thinges in them that no man can maintaine therfore no part of them is so much as reade in our Church as that m 1. Mach. 1. 7 AlexaÌ„der parted his kingdome among his servants while he was alive that the n Cap 8 7. Romanes tooke the greate Antiochus aliue that they tooke from him o Cap. 8. 8. India and Media and Lydia and gaue them to King Eumenes that they had a Senate consisting of p Vers. 15. three hundred and twenty men who consulted daily that they yeerely committed their q Vers. 16. government to one man whom all obeied and that there was no hatred or envy amongst them Also it wil never bee made hang togither that Iudas should be aliue in the r 2 Math 1. 10. hundred foâ—…escore eight yeere and yet he should be slaine in the s 1 Mac 9. 3. hundred fifty and two yeere Neither that Antiochus should s 1 Mac. 6. 8 die in his bed for griefe and sorrow and in another place should be