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A69269
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The speech of the Lord Chancellor of England, in the Eschequer Chamber, touching the post-nati
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Egerton, Thomas, Sir, 1540?-1617.
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1609
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STC 7540.5; ESTC S100270
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and_o alter_v his_o seal_n and_o his_o arm_n and_o after_o a_o while_n place_v the_o arm_n of_o france_n before_o the_o ancient_a arm_n of_o england_n as_o they_o be_v bear_v at_o this_o day_n this_o give_v occasion_n for_o the_o make_n of_o this_o statute_n for_o some_o people_n ascun_fw-la gentes_fw-la say_v the_o statute_n see_v this_o change_n and_o consider_v the_o large_a and_o ample_a extent_n and_o the_o magnificence_n of_o that_o great_a kingdom_n begin_v to_o doubt_v that_o the_o king_n will_v make_v his_o imperial_a seat_n there_o and_o conceive_v thereby_o that_o the_o kingdom_n of_o england_n be_v the_o lesser_a shall_v be_v in_o subjection_n of_o the_o king_n and_o kingdom_n of_o france_n be_v the_o great_a and_o to_o be_v govern_v and_o rule_v by_o a_o viceroy_n or_o deputy_n as_o they_o see_v ireland_n be_v and_o though_o in_o the_o king_n style_n england_n be_v place_v before_o france_n yet_o they_o see_v the_o arm_n of_o france_n marshal_v before_o the_o arm_n of_o 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as_o in_o registro_fw-la for_n 61._o ad_fw-la iura_fw-la regius_fw-la spectat_fw-la and_o ad_fw-la conseruationem_fw-la iurium_fw-la coronae_fw-la nostrae_fw-la &_o ad_fw-la iura_fw-la regius_fw-la ne_fw-la depereant_fw-la etc._n etc._n when_o it_o respect_n the_o common_a subject_n it_o be_v call_v lex_fw-la terrae_fw-la as_o in_o magna_fw-la charta_fw-la ca._n 29._o nisi_fw-la per_fw-la legale_fw-la iudicium_fw-la parium_fw-la vel_fw-la per_fw-la legem_fw-la terrae_fw-la yet_o scripta_fw-la in_o all_o these_o case_n whether_o it_o respect_n the_o church_n the_o crown_n or_o the_o subject_n it_o be_v comprehend_v under_o this_o general_a term_n the_o common_a law_n of_o england_n which_o although_o they_o be_v for_o a_o great_a part_n thereof_o reduce_v into_o writing_n yet_o they_o be_v not_o original_o leges_fw-la scriptae_fw-la this_o i_o first_o learn_v of_o the_o late_a lord_n treasurer_n