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B07995 The Catholikes supplication vnto the Kings Maiestie, for toleration of Catholike religion in England: with short notes or animaduersions in the margine. : Whereunto is annexed parallel-wise, a supplicatorie counterpoyse of the Protestants, vnto the same most excellent Maiestie. : Together with the reasons of both sides, for and against toleration of diuers religions.. Powel, Gabriel, 1576-1611. 1603 (1603) STC 20141.5; ESTC S94766 17,197 37

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opinion of learning of his disloyall carriage of his number and dependencie at home and abroade IIII. REASON The French King hath graunted a toleration of both Religions Out of the 7. Section which is the cause of quietnes in his kingdome Ergo The King of England may doe so likewise ANSWERE I. To the Antecedent 1 The cause of quietnes in Fraunce was not toleration but the banishment of the Iesuites See the Counterpoyse Sect. 7. 2 The contrarie religion in Fraunce is tolerated of necessitie and disabilitie of the Catholikes part to expugne and ruine the other as it was in the time of Charles the ninth and Henrie the third 3 Such as the French King doth tolerate doe in opinion derogate nothing from his Soueraigntie nor in action attempt any thing against his person But it is and euer was otherwise with Papists in England II. To the Consequence 1 Men liue by the rule of Reason and law not by examples 2 The French King holdeth correspondence in religion with the Pope therefore in a question of the worship and seruice of the Lord he cannot be a fit president to a Christian Prince professing the Gospell 3 Though the French King permitteth the free exercise of the Gospell a doctrine lawfull in it selfe and holie which derogateth nothing from Princes soueraigntie yet may not the King of England permit Papistrie the doctrine being Antichristian and vnlawfull in it selfe ioyned also with dishonor and perill 4 The French King alloweth toleration to such who acknowledge him for their lawfull Soueraigne who neuer plotted against his Crowne and life nor can be induced vpon any suggestion so to doe whereas his Maiestie of England is solicited to yeeld it to such who hold that he is an Heretike that hee may be diuested by the Popes Bull of his imperiall Crowne and regalities who haue disposed of their allegeance to a forraine Prince who neuer cease from proiects and practises for alteration who in fittest oportunitie vpon mandate from the Pope are readie to take armes for the subuersion of his Scepter and state of his royall person and of the Gospell V. REASON Vpon graunt of toleration England will not be odious to all Christian Nations for cruell persecution of Catholikes Out of the 8. Section as now they are Ergo Toleration should in good reason be allowed and maintained ANSWERE I. To the Antecedent 1 England is not odious to all Christian Nations neither did it euer within the supposed time persecute Catholikes but punish Traytors Toleration being admitted yet will not such as hate England cease to hate her still because of the disgrace that must relie vpon Poperie his Maiestie the State and almosy all the subiects professing the Gospell II. To the Consequence 1 To graunt toleration that England might not be slaundered for proceedings against Papists and hated by those of that faction were for curing of the headach to knock out the braines If we consider the parties that hate vs the insufficient ground they haue for their hating vs the little measure of preiudice or dammage that commeth thereof and on the other side the ineuitable dishonour the daunger and mischiefe of toleration we shall see that the former is not worthie any regard when there is question of the latter 3 The surcease of Catholike-hate being altogether vncertaine and accidentarie it cannot be in policie a sufficient ground for imbracing of dangerous toleration VI REASON Toleration will stay hostile attempts of Catholikes against the Realme and so Traffique will be free Out of the 8. Section Subsidies and Taxes shall not be so many c. Ergo Toleration is to be imbraced ANSWERE I. To the Antecedent 1 It is not the cause of Religion though it hath been some part of their pretence that embarked enemies against this land But violent humours of ambition to a Monarchy of malice and reuenge vpon supposed indignities the securing of their owne greatnes by impayring their Neighbours c. therefore toleration cannot redresse hostilitie 2 Suppose Religion the cause yet it is not toleration but alteration that they aime at and therfore their hostile practises and machinations are vnlikely to cease for toleration 3 Hostile attempts may cease without toleration as by disabilitie on the aduerse part necessitie compulsion c. II. To the Consequence 1 Euill must not be done that good may come thereof Toleration of Idolatrie cannot be denied to be euill 2 Of two euils the lesser is to be chosen Hostile attempts may endaunger the bodie Toleration damneth the soule VII REASON Toleration will be gratefull to all Catholike Princes abroad Out of the 9. Section Ergo It ought to be granted ANSWERE I. To the Antecedent 1 Alteration would be more gratefull vnto Catholike Princes then toleration should alteration therefore be graunted II. To the Consequence 1 Should his royal Maiestie graunt an impietie and hazard his royal estate and person yea his subiects and the Gospel to gratifie Catholike Princes 2 Whether it be right in the sight of God to obey you rather then God iudgeye Act. 4.19 3 If I should please men I were not the seruant of Christ saith the Apostle Galat. 1.10 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 VII REASON Out of the 9. Section All English subiects would be acceptable to all Catholike countries who are now almost abhorred of all if toleration were graunted Ergo Toleration is not to be denied ANSWERE I. To the Antecedent 1 It is false that Englishmen are abhorred of all Catholike countries otherwise then for their religion as all other Protestants be 2 Suppose a toleration yet dissension in religion extinguisheth acceptation in affection therefore it is not probable that English subiects being Protestants in religion should be esteemed and accepted among such as are of a contrarie faction 3 Nullus est fidus eorum affectus quorum est diuersa fides saith Hierome 4 Not toleration but plaine alteration would peraduenture make English subiects acceptable II. To the consequence 1 No sinne must be committed against God for gaining of particular aduantage 2 It is a grosse error in pollicie in hope of idle and accidentarie reputation to make choice of certaine mischiefe IX REASON Out of the 9. Section Vpon toleration of Catholike Religion we shall enioy assured peace Swordes shall bee changed into ploughes and launces into sithes Ergo Toleration is to be admitted ANSWERE I. To the Antecedent 1 Religion is not the cause of disturbance of peace and hostile attempts against this kingdome as hath been said alreadie 2 If it were the cause yet the Gospell which is the thing they would extirpate should remaine still for all toleration so that warres are not likely to cease 3 Toleration would hatch simultation iarres discord dissension and at last deadly warre rather then peace 4 If Papists still attempted treasons in time of their restraint in Queene Elizabeths dayes is it not probable that hauing more libertie they would be more treacherous
especially the Popes malice against the Gospell being still the same and their obedience to him not renounced II. To the Consequence 1 Vpon supposition of peace ensuing vpon toleration which is not likely yet cursed be that peace when it cannot be procured but by sinning against God 2 Maledicta sit omnis concordia destituta sinceritate veritatis saith Irenaeus X. REASON Out of the 10. Section All the Kings happie predecessors professed the Catholike Religion Ergo His Maiestie ought at least to grant a toleration ANSWERE I. To the Antecedent 1 The Antecedent is false Poperie was hatched but of late times 2 Henrie the eight Edward the sixt and Queene Elizabeth of happie memorie to speake of no other were the Kings predecessors yet they professed not the Popish Religion II. To the Consequence 1 If his Maiesties predecessors had professed Poperie yet that can be no warrant for his Highnes so to doe because we must not liue by examples but by lawes and reason 2 It is not antiquitie nor custome that makes a thing lawfull in it selfe neither must we so much regard the ancient way as the good way See Matth. 15.2 to the 12. Act. 7.51.52.1 Pet. 1.18 3 Our Fathers must not be followed in euill Be ye not as your fathers Zach. 1.4 Walke not in the ordinances of your fathers neither obserue their manners nor defile your selues with their Idols Ezech. 20.18 See also Psal 78.8 Psal 95.9 Amos. 2.4 XI REASON Out of the 11. Section The Catholike Religion is ancient irreprehensible in doctrine agreeable to Gods word c. Ergo Catholike Religion ought to be tolerated ANSWERE The Antecedent is an impudent begging of the question and can neuer be proued therefore the Consequence falleth of it selfe XII REASON Out of the 12. Section The Catholikes onely serue the King and obserue his lawes for conscience Ergo Catholikes ought to be tolerated ANSWERE Thi reason is of the same nature with the first reason and is there answered See also the Counterpoyse Setion 12. So much for the Catholikes reasons for toleration Now w● will consider the Protestants reasons against it THE PROTESTANTS REASONS AGAINST TOLERATION OF POPERIE in England THe reasons against toleration of Papisticall religion in this land are of two sorts 1. Theologicall drawne from the scriptures either expressely or by necessarie consequence 2. Politike taken from consideration of the particular state of this kingdom or from the religion and persons of the Papists I. REASON Whatsoeuer is offensiue vnto God is not to be admitted Toleration of Papistrie is an offence vnto God Ergo Toleration is not to be admitted Onely the assumption commeth in question which I prooue by this Prosyllogisme Toleration of Idolatrie is offensiue vnto God Toleration of Papistrie is toleration of Idolarie Ergo Toleration of Papistrie is offensiue vno God The proposition is manifest because Id●latrie it selfe is offensiue vnto God and conseque●tly the exercise and permission of the same A C●ristian Prince being the keeper of both tables of he Decalogue should not suffer Idolators t● defile the worship of God within his dominions The assumption no Protestant can deny seeing popish worship of God is Idolatrous worship wherefore it needeth no proofe Neither haue I penned these reasons for Papists II. REASON Whatsoeuer the good Kings of Iudah and other godly Princes are commended for in the scriptures that Christian Princes ought to imitate But the good Kings of Iudah were commended for expelling of contrarie worshippers and repressing of Idolatrie Ergo Christian Princes ought to expell contrarie worshippers to represse Idolatrie in like manner The proposition is manifest for whatsoeuer is written is written for our instruction The assumption is proued by induction Asa brake downe the altars and images of straunge Gods 2. Chron. 14.3 Iehoshaphat remoued the high places and groues 2. Chron. 17.6 Iosiah put downe the Chemarims that were Idolatrous Priests 2. King 23.5 Iacob would not suffer Idolatrie to be committed in his house but buried all the Images vnder an Oke Genes 35.5 All which were commended for so doing III. REASON Whatsoeuer is discommended in other Kings is to be eschewed of Christian Princes Toleration of contrarie worshippers and permission of Idolatrie is discommended in other Kings Ergo Toleration is to be eschewed of Christian Princes The assumption is proued by the examples of such Kings as had not taken away the high places as Iehoash 2. King 12.3 and Azariah 2. King 15.4 IIII. REASON Halting betweene two opinions is not lawfull Toleration of two contrarie religions is halting betweene two opinions Ergo Toleration of two contrarie religions is vnlawfull The proposition is cleare out of the words of Eliah How long will ye halt betweene two opinions If the Lord be God follow him But if Baal be goe after him 1. King 18.21 And also out of Zephan 1.5 I wil stretch out mine hand vpon them that worship sweare by the Lord and sweare by Malcham The Assumption is manifest for whosoeuer causeth another to sinne is said to commit that sin himselfe so Dauid is said to murder Vriah V. REASON That which would be a meanes to obdurate and harden Papists in their superstition is to be auoided Toleration of their religion is a meanes to harden them whereas otherwise there might be hope of them c. Ergo Toleration of Popish religion is to be auoided VI. REASON That which would be offensiue vnto all Christian Princes and people is not to be admitted Toleration of Poperie in England would be offensiue to all Christian Princes and people Ergo Toleration is not to be admitted VII REASON Whatsoeuer would be dishonorable vnto his excellent Maiestie is not to be admitted Toleration of poperie would be very dishonorable vnto his Highnes For he hath euer hitherunto constantly professed the Gospell and now enioyeth a kingdome wherein the Gospell is established besides that the glorie of a King proceedeth from intertaining such constitutions and decrees in religion as God himselfe hath enacted and deliuered Ergo Toleration is not to be admitted VIII REASON Whatsoeuer is not for his Maiesties saftie nor for the safetie of his kingdome that is not to be admitted Toleration of Papists is not for his Maiesties safetie nor for the safetie of his kingdome because it is impossible for Papists to be loyall subiects to any Protestant Prince as hath been often declared before Ergo Fie vpon toleration of disloyall Papists IX REASON Whatsoeuer would breede confusion and disquietnes in the land that is to be auoyded Toleration of Papistrie would breede confusion and vprores in the land For it would tend to the antiquating and repealing of diuers profitable lawes alreadie enacted against Popish practises and harten the Papists to perpetrate any villanie c. Ergo Toleration of Poperie is to be auoyded X. REASON That which in Papists will double their allegeance and deuotion to the Pope is not to be tolerated Toleration of Poperie will double