constant_o deny_v the_o pope_n to_o have_v any_o authority_n or_o power_n direct_a or_o indirect_a to_o depose_v king_n and_o final_o of_o the_o french_a jesuit_n who_o subscribe_v the_o censure_n and_o condemnation_n of_o some_o book_n wherein_o that_o power_n be_v defend_v and_o why_o may_v not_o the_o catholic_n of_o england_n have_v the_o same_o liberty_n as_o the_o catholic_n of_o france_n have_v 53._o concern_v the_o authority_n of_o france_n for_o this_o oath_n object_v against_o we_o consider_v first_o that_o though_o in_o a_o assembly_n 1615._o hold_v in_o france_n of_o the_o three_o estate_n ecclesiastic_n nobility_n and_o commons_o in_o time_n of_o cardinal_n peron_n there_o be_v draw_v up_o 73._o a_o oath_n by_o the_o three_o estate_n or_o commons_o wherein_o be_v affirm_v 247._o that_o there_o be_v no_o power_n on_o earth_n either_o spiritual_a or_o temporal_a that_o have_v any_o right_n over_o his_o majesty_n be_v kingdom_n to_o depose_v the_o sacred_a person_n of_o our_o king_n nor_o to_o dispense_v with_o or_o absolve_v their_o subject_n from_o their_o loyalty_n and_o obedience_n which_o they_o owe_v to_o they_o for_o any_o cause_n or_o pretence_n whatsoever_o yet_o the_o two_o chief_a part_n of_o the_o assembly_n viz._n the_o 336._o spiritual_a and_o temporal_a lord_n be_v so_o much_o against_o this_o article_n of_o the_o oath_n that_o they_o be_v resolve_v especial_o the_o spiritual_a lord_n to_o die_v rather_o than_o take_v it_o and_o the_o three_o estate_n or_o commons_o who_o have_v draw_v it_o up_o after_o they_o have_v hear_v peron_n oration_n against_o it_o lay_v it_o aside_o which_o be_v as_o much_o as_o handsome_o to_o recall_v it_o and_o how_o can_v we_o reasonable_o say_v that_o the_o kingdom_n of_o france_n be_v for_o a_o oath_n which_o the_o two_o principal_a part_n of_o the_o assembly_n representative_a of_o that_o kingdom_n be_v so_o eager_a against_o and_o which_o the_o three_o part_n after_o serious_a consideration_n lay_v aside_o 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for_o to_o be_v take_v by_o all_o such_o who_o swear_v allegiance_n to_o his_o most_o christian_n majesty_n and_o the_o english_a catholic_n be_v ready_a to_o take_v the_o oath_n of_o allegiance_n to_o his_o majesty_n which_o be_v general_o tender_v in_o france_n and_o why_o may_v not_o his_o majesty_n be_v content_a with_o the_o same_o kind_n of_o civil_a allegiance_n from_o his_o subject_n which_o the_o french_a king_n and_o other_o sovereign_n require_v from_o their_o subject_n all_o which_o show_v that_o france_n can_v reasonable_o be_v bring_v as_o a_o precedent_n in_o the_o cause_n we_o treat_v of_o 55._o consider_v three_o that_o since_o the_o representative_a of_o france_n have_v so_o much_o favour_v the_o negative_a though_o we_o shall_v grant_v and_o whether_o it_o must_v be_v grant_v or_o not_o we_o shall_v see_v by_o and_o by_o that_o some_o other_o particular_a tribunal_n or_o society_n of_o that_o kingdom_n have_v favour_v the_o contrary_a yet_o because_o the_o assembly_n or_o representative_a of_o france_n be_v far_o above_o those_o particular_a society_n we_o ought_v to_o conclude_v that_o france_n rather_o countenance_n the_o negative_a than_o the_o affirmative_a shall_v we_o see_v that_o our_o parliament_n do_v countenance_n so_o much_o the_o negative_a of_o a_o opinion_n as_o the_o forementioned_a assembly_n of_o france_n do_v countenance_v the_o refusal_n of_o that_o oath_n though_o some_o particular_a court_n at_o westminster_n or_o the_o university_n of_o oxford_n shall_v countenance_v the_o contrary_a we_o ought_v to_o say_v that_o england_n rather_o stand_v for_o the_o negative_a than_o the_o affirmative_a 56._o concern_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o parliament_n and_o university_n of_o paris_n in_o this_o point_n consider_v first_o that_o neither_o that_o parliament_n nor_o any_o other_o parliament_n of_o france_n neither_o that_o university_n nor_o any_o other_o university_n of_o that_o kingdom_n have_v ever_o yet_o make_v any_o public_a and_o authentic_a act_n wherein_o they_o approve_v our_o present_a oath_n of_o allegiance_n as_o it_o lie_v and_o all_o its_o clause_n wherein_o the_o difficulty_n thereof_o consist_v neither_o do_v our_o adversary_n pretend_v any_o such_o thing_n but_o only_o that_o the_o parliament_n and_o university_n of_o paris_n with_o some_o other_o parliament_n and_o university_n of_o france_n have_v make_v decree_n wherein_o they_o deny_v the_o pope_n to_o have_v any_o power_n whatsoever_o to_o depose_v king_n or_o to_o absolve_v their_o subject_n from_o the_o allegiance_n due_a unto_o they_o for_o any_o cause_n or_o under_o any_o pretence_n whatsoever_o yet_o hence_o do_v not_o follow_v that_o the_o parliament_n or_o university_n of_o that_o kingdom_n do_v approve_v this_o oath_n for_o to_o approve_v a_o oath_n it_o be_v necessary_a to_o approve_v all_o and_o every_o part_n thereof_o and_o who_o only_o approve_v one_o part_n do_v not_o therefore_o approve_v the_o whole_a so_o that_o 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manner_n either_o for_o such_o or_o as_o bad_a as_o such_o 58._o other_o think_v they_o can_v swear_v with_o truth_n that_o neither_o the_o pope_n nor_o any_o other_o whatsoever_o can_v absolve_v they_o from_o this_o oath_n or_o any_o part_n thereof_o in_o any_o case_n imaginable_a since_o the_o king_n himself_o may_v absolve_v his_o subject_n from_o such_o a_o oath_n either_o all_o of_o they_o by_o lay_v down_o the_o government_n with_o consent_n of_o the_o kingdom_n as_o charles_n the_o five_o do_v and_o it_o be_v hard_o to_o oblige_v one_o to_o swear_v that_o a_o king_n of_o england_n in_o no_o case_n possible_a can_v do_v the_o like_a or_o at_o least_o some_o of_o they_o by_o pass_v a_o town_n under_o his_o jurisdiction_n to_o another_o king_n as_o his_o majesty_n pass_v dunkirk_n to_o the_o french_a king_n and_o consequent_o absolve_v from_o the_o oath_n of_o allegiance_n the_o inhabitant_n who_o have_v take_v it_o moreover_o they_o do_v not_o see_v how_o they_o can_v swear_v 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not_o think_v the_o oath_n in_o itself_o and_o speculative_o speak_v to_o be_v lawful_a and_o consequent_o if_o he_o think_v that_o the_o act_n therein_o contain_v do_v concern_v mere_a civil_a allegiance_n he_o be_v bind_v as_o long_o as_o he_o remain_v in_o such_o a_o persuasion_n to_o comply_v with_o those_o act_n whether_o he_o have_v take_v this_o oath_n or_o not_o for_o a_o subject_n be_v bind_v to_o civil_a allegiance_n by_o the_o law_n of_o god_n and_o nature_n antecedent_o to_o all_o oath_n final_o the_o pope_n do_v not_o forbid_v we_o in_o these_o brief_n a_o act_n of_o loyalty_n or_o civil_a allegiance_n for_o the_o take_n of_o this_o oath_n which_o be_v only_o forbid_v we_o in_o these_o brief_n be_v not_o proper_o speak_v any_o act_n of_o civil_a allegiance_n but_o only_o a_o security_n thereof_o and_o how_o little_a trust_n be_v to_o be_v put_v in_o such_o a_o security_n do_v appear_v by_o the_o sad_a experience_n of_o the_o late_a war_n as_o a_o bond_n for_o the_o 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hereafter_o do_v not_o open_v a_o way_n for_o subject_n to_o resist_v 162._o and_o disobey_v the_o express_a command_n or_o prohibition_n if_o they_o be_v condemn_v therein_o of_o their_o respective_a sovereign_n though_o issue_v forth_o after_o never_o so_o serious_a a_o debate_n pretend_v that_o they_o be_v ground_v upon_o inconsiderateness_n misinformation_n and_o mistake_v in_o think_v that_o such_o a_o thing_n be_v contrary_a to_o the_o law_n of_o the_o realm_n and_o the_o prerogative_n of_o his_o majesty_n or_o that_o the_o king_n do_v not_o proceed_v therein_o according_a to_o the_o rule_v prescribe_v in_o such_o case_n or_o that_o his_o majesty_n be_v a_o party_n in_o the_o debate_n and_o that_o consequent_o he_o ought_v not_o to_o be_v judge_n or_o final_o that_o such_o prohibition_n and_o command_n be_v prejudicial_a to_o the_o liberty_n of_o the_o people_n and_o common_a welfare_n of_o the_o nation_n and_o that_o they_o may_v be_v occasion_n of_o great_a disturbance_n in_o the_o kingdom_n and_o whither_o if_o such_o exception_n as_o these_o be_v warrantable_a and_o not_o to_o be_v decide_v by_o the_o sovereign_n themselves_o they_o do_v not_o render_v the_o authority_n of_o king_n though_o our_o adversary_n who_o make_v use_v of_o they_o will_v needs_o seem_v to_o be_v stout_a champion_n for_o regal_a power_n very_o weak_a and_o insignificant_a as_o in_o effect_n they_o do_v render_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o pope_n 29._o if_o it_o be_v object_v three_o that_o to_o refuse_v this_o oath_n when_o we_o be_v require_v to_o take_v it_o by_o the_o king_n be_v sinful_a inductive_a to_o schism_n and_o scandalous_a to_o our_o religion_n as_o if_o the_o principle_n thereof_o be_v inconsistent_a with_o civil_a allegiance_n due_a to_o prince_n and_o in_o such_o matter_n no_o man_n be_v bind_v to_o obey_v the_o pope_n decree_n but_o rather_o to_o the_o contrary_a that_o shall_v the_o pope_n declare_v it_o sinful_a to_o bear_v his_o majesty_n civil_a allegiance_n which_o be_v due_a unto_o he_o by_o the_o law_n of_o god_n and_o nature_n certain_o we_o shall_v not_o think_v ourselves_o bind_v to_o submit_v to_o such_o a_o declaration_n that_o this_o oath_n contain_v only_o a_o mere_a civil_a allegiance_n as_o our_o king_n have_v declare_v and_o to_o they_o it_o belong_v to_o declare_v what_o be_v mere_a civil_a allegiance_n and_o not_o to_o the_o pope_n who_o jurisdiction_n extend_v only_o to_o spirituall_n that_o we_o be_v bind_v to_o obey_v our_o sovereign_n command_n in_o all_o probable_a matter_n and_o which_o be_v not_o manifest_o sinful_a as_o the_o take_n of_o this_o oath_n be_v not_o that_o since_o it_o be_v doubtful_a at_o least_o whether_o the_o thing_n contain_v in_o this_o oath_n wherein_o the_o difficulty_n thereof_o consist_v appertain_v to_o the_o spiritual_a or_o civil_a court_n why_o shall_v the_o pope_n decide_v it_o rather_o than_o the_o king_n and_o since_o the_o king_n command_v we_o to_o take_v the_o oath_n and_o the_o 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the_o king_n ordinance_n in_o matter_n appertain_v unto_o he_o and_o no_o far_a than_o they_o appertain_v unto_o he_o but_o it_o be_v unlawful_a to_o deny_v such_o a_o obedience_n to_o the_o king_n ordinance_n and_o in_o such_o matter_n therefore_o it_o be_v unlawful_a for_o any_o of_o his_o majesty_n be_v subject_n when_o require_v thereunto_o to_o refuse_v this_o oath_n 30._o concern_v the_o sinfulness_n of_o the_o refusal_n of_o this_o oath_n object_v against_o we_o consider_v first_o whether_o this_o objection_n be_v not_o against_o all_o or_o most_o of_o those_o catholic_n who_o defend_v the_o lawfulness_n of_o this_o oath_n who_o aim_n only_o be_v to_o show_v not_o that_o it_o be_v a_o sin_n to_o refuse_v this_o oath_n but_o that_o it_o be_v no_o sin_n to_o take_v it_o second_o consider_v whether_o the_o refusal_n of_o this_o oath_n can_v be_v sinful_a unless_o the_o take_n thereof_o be_v absolute_o obligatory_a and_o if_o not_o then_o consider_v whether_o there_o be_v any_o 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prince_n either_o by_o reason_n of_o some_o civil_a insufficiency_n in_o the_o prince_n to_o govern_v or_o some_o light_a cause_n mention_v by_o sanctarellus_n or_o upon_o the_o mere_a account_n of_o heresy_n or_o apostasy_n though_o they_o shall_v permit_v their_o subject_n to_o enjoy_v liberty_n of_o conscience_n which_o seem_v to_o have_v be_v the_o doctrine_n of_o sanctarellus_n if_o so_o than_o our_o case_n be_v very_o different_a concern_v the_o present_a point_n for_o neither_o bellarmine_n nor_o peron_n against_o who_o our_o adversary_n do_v so_o hot_o inveigh_v do_v speak_v of_o a_o mere_a civil_a insufficiency_n neither_o do_v they_o affirm_v that_o a_o prince_n may_v lawful_o be_v depose_v mere_o because_o he_o be_v a_o heretic_n unless_o moreover_o he_o force_v his_o subject_n to_o be_v so_o too_o by_o persecute_v they_o and_o yet_o in_o the_o oath_n we_o be_v bind_v to_o swear_v that_o the_o pope_n have_v not_o any_o power_n whatsoever_o in_o any_o case_n possible_a to_o depose_v a_o heretical_a prince_n whether_o he_o persecute_v his_o subject_n or_o not_o 75._o consider_v eighthly_a that_o though_o in_o the_o forementioned_a decree_n sanctarellus_n his_o proposition_n be_v condemn_v as_o contrary_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n yet_o this_o be_v not_o proper_o to_o condemn_v they_o as_o our_o adversary_n pretend_v for_o heretical_a unless_o they_o be_v declare_v as_o such_o by_o the_o church_n as_o to_o approve_v a_o proposition_n as_o agreeable_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v not_o to_o approve_v it_o as_o a_o article_n of_o faith_n according_a to_o what_o above_o have_v be_v insinuate_v and_o there_o be_v scarce_o any_o scholastical_a question_n of_o divinity_n wherein_o the_o defender_n of_o either_o side_n do_v not_o endeavour_v to_o prove_v their_o opinion_n out_o of_o scripture_n and_o consequent_o they_o look_v upon_o the_o opposite_a sentence_n as_o contrary_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n yet_o they_o be_v far_o from_o censure_v it_o therefore_o as_o heretical_a and_o often_o prohibit_v so_o to_o do_v nay_o protestant_n who_o affirm_v those_o tenet_n wherein_o we_o differ_v from_o they_o to_o be_v repugnant_a to_o scripture_n and_o pretend_v to_o prove_v they_o be_v so_o yet_o they_o do_v withal_o confess_v that_o they_o be_v no_o heresy_n so_o that_o as_o well_o protestant_n as_o catholic_n according_a to_o the_o plain_a and_o common_a sense_n of_o the_o word_n understand_v somewhat_o more_o by_o a_o heretical_a opinion_n than_o a_o opinion_n contrary_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n 77._o concern_v other_o thing_n relate_v to_o the_o authority_n of_o france_n contain_v in_o the_o objection_n consider_v first_o that_o the_o author_n of_o a_o book_n entitle_v some_o few_o question_n concern_v the_o oath_n of_o allegiance_n page_n 8._o set_n down_o a_o arrest_n of_o the_o parliament_n of_o paris_n wherein_o the_o jesuit_n be_v order_v as_o he_o pretend_v to_o subscribe_v the_o forementioned_a decree_n or_o censure_n against_o sanctarellus_n his_o book_n but_o this_o be_v a_o great_a mistake_n if_o the_o arrest_v be_v understand_v of_o that_o decree_n for_o that_o decree_n be_v make_v upon_o the_o 20._o of_o april_n 1626._o and_o the_o arrest_n be_v date_v the_o 17_o the_o of_o march_v 1626._o wherein_o the_o jesuit_n be_v command_v to_o subscribe_v within_o three_o day_n so_o that_o regem_fw-la according_a to_o this_o account_n they_o be_v to_o subscribe_v a_o decree_n 37_o day_n before_o it_o be_v make_v and_o the_o censure_n of_o the_o sorbon_n mention_v in_o the_o decree_n be_v pass_v the_o 4_o the_o of_o april_n 1626._o so_o that_o be_v the_o arrest_n to_o be_v understand_v of_o this_o censure_n they_o be_v to_o subscribe_v 15_o day_n before_o it_o pass_v which_o be_v ridiculous_a beside_o shall_v we_o grant_v that_o the_o jesuit_n have_v subscribe_v the_o forementioned_a decree_n and_o censure_n we_o have_v already_o see_v how_o little_a that_o decree_n or_o the_o censure_n therein_o contain_v do_v favour_n the_o lawfulness_n of_o this_o oath_n and_o consequent_o neither_o can_v the_o subscription_n of_o the_o jesuit_n to_o such_o a_o censure_n and_o decree_n help_v much_o thereunto_o for_o they_o will_v not_o therefore_o subscribe_v or_o approve_v the_o oath_n as_o it_o lie_v nor_o affirm_v that_o one_o may_v positive_o swear_v that_o the_o pope_n have_v no_o power_n whatsoever_o to_o depose_v prince_n and_o much_o less_o that_o one_o may_v swear_v that_o he_o abjure_v the_o contrary_a as_o heretical_a all_o which_o be_v require_v in_o the_o oath_n since_o the_o university_n or_o parliament_n of_o paris_n never_o require_v any_o such_o oath_n or_o subscription_n nay_o one_o subscription_n signify_v no_o more_o but_o that_o he_o think_v the_o thing_n he_o subscribe_v to_o be_v true_a yet_o one_o may_v think_v a_o thing_n to_o be_v true_a though_o he_o will_v not_o swear_v nor_o counsel_v any_o other_o to_o swear_v it_o be_v so_o 78._o consider_v second_o that_o there_o be_v some_o other_o proposition_n allege_v out_o of_o france_n in_o favour_n of_o this_o oath_n which_o be_v common_o hold_v in_o that_o kingdom_n viz._n that_o his_o most_o christian_n majesty_n do_v not_o receive_v his_o kingdom_n but_o from_o god_n and_o his_o sword_n that_o he_o do_v not_o acknowledge_v any_o other_o superior_a in_o his_o kingdom_n but_o only_o god_n which_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v in_o temporall_n for_o he_o acknowledge_v the_o pope_n to_o be_v his_o superior_a in_o spirituall_n now_o even_o those_o who_o refuse_v the_o oath_n do_v confess_v the_o same_o of_o his_o majesty_n neither_o be_v a_o indirect_a and_o conditional_a power_n to_o depose_v king_n which_o some_o ascribe_v to_o the_o pope_n in_o certain_a case_n inconsistent_a with_o such_o prerogative_n for_o every_o king_n have_v a_o indirect_a and_o conditional_a power_n or_o right_o to_o wage_v war_n against_o any_o other_o sovereign_n though_o he_o receive_v his_o government_n immediate_o from_o god_n and_o to_o depose_v he_o too_o in_o case_n he_o injure_v such_o a_o king_n or_o his_o subject_n as_o it_o be_v possible_a he_o may_v and_o refuses_z when_o require_v thereunto_o to_o give_v any_o reasonable_a satisfaction_n what_o good_a english_a subject_n be_v there_o who_o in_o the_o late_a dutch_a war_n which_o we_o suppose_v to_o have_v be_v just_a on_o our_o side_n will_v have_v swear_v that_o his_o majesty_n have_v not_o right_o and_o power_n to_o depose_v the_o state_n general_n who_o we_o acknowledge_v to_o be_v sovereign_n and_o to_o depend_v of_o god_n alone_o in_o temporall_n and_o consequent_o to_o absolve_v their_o subject_n from_o their_o oath_n of_o allegiance_n make_v to_o they_o in_o case_n they_o have_v persist_v to_o refuse_v to_o give_v his_o majesty_n the_o satisfaction_n that_o be_v due_a and_o what_o satisfaction_n be_v due_a his_o majesty_n be_v to_o be_v judge_n so_o that_o be_v this_o indirect_a depose_v power_n inconsistent_a with_o the_o sovereignty_n of_o prince_n there_o will_v be_v no_o sovereign_a prince_n at_o all_o and_o since_o the_o pope_n be_v sovereign_a temporal_a prince_n of_o rome_n and_o its_o adjacent_a territory_n as_o even_a protestant_n confess_v he_o must_v have_v the_o like_a indirect_a depose_v power_n or_o right_a which_o be_v inherent_a in_o every_o sovereign_n temporal_a prince_n as_o even_o our_o adversary_n will_v not_o deny_v and_o yet_o if_o we_o take_v the_o oath_n we_o must_v swear_v or_o testify_v before_o god_n which_o certain_o be_v to_o swear_v that_o the_o pope_n neither_o of_o himself_o nor_o by_o any_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n have_v any_o power_n to_o depose_v king_n that_o be_v neither_o temporal_a nor_o spiritual_a neither_o direct_v nor_o indirect_a for_o the_o proposition_n be_v negative_a and_o by_o consequence_n deny_v all_o power_n whatsoever_o 79._o and_o here_o i_o can_v but_o ask_v our_o adversary_n a_o question_n which_o be_v whether_o either_o they_o 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