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A76262	A Legacie left to Protestants, containing eighteen controversies, viz. 1. Of the Holy Scriptures. 2. Of Christs Catholick Church, &c. 3. Of the Bishop and Church of Rome, 4. Of traditions needfull, &c.	Bayly, Thomas, d. 1657?,; T. B.	1654 (1654)	Wing B1512; Thomason E1667_2; ESTC R208395	72,275	206

Epist 87. ad Casulanum and antient Ordinations are to be maintained and observed as laws prescribed unto us Neither doth Calvins denial of them to be lawfull because they are not expressed in Scripture derogate any thing at all from the antiently allowed authority of them and the want of them in his reformed or rather deformed Conventicles is a notable blemish unto them insomuch as a great Lord of France beholding another H●gonet Lord his friend after a Pompous Funeral caft like a Dog into the Earth by two ordinary labouring men without any Prayer or Ceremony used in the Burial of him sware that Calvins Religion was like a bald mans head without any hair upon it and another Lord there present said merrily in answer of him not without an Oath that it was a Religion if you will call it so fitter for Beggers than Gentlemen The fifth Controversie Of Protestancy begun here in England under Queen Elizabeth ANd since continued untill now when Puritanism by covert means at home and help of Scottish neighbours abroad came to overtop it and made an open way to the destruction of all setled and constant professions of Faith by the power of such as call themselves Independents as depending on none but themselves in the choice of their Religion Queen Elizabeth intended not this freedome of Sectaries now licensed unto them nor did she of her self so dislike Cath●like Religion but that she could have been contented to have continued the same in her kingdome if the Flaw of her Mothers marriage contrary to the Popes order and the act of her own father excluding her from the Crown had not caused King Henry the second of France whose eldest sonne Francis had newly then married Mary Queen of Scotland and next heir to the Crown of Engand to proclaim her a Bastard and resolved to maintain the right of his Daughter in law against her By which unfortunate occasion her ears were opened unto bad Councellors then about her and for their own ends busily perswading her that if the Popes power were still obeyed and Catholick Religion continued among her Subjects she could not have any certain hope of enjoying her Crown quietly and upon this ground chiefly she was moved to change the ancient Religion of her Kingdom which could not be done but in Parliament of which I have seen a daily Relation gotten from Mr. Camden by a Protestant Bishop and lent by him for some daies unto me So as out of the same I can truly affirm that such Burgesses and Knights were cunningly packed out of every Shire and Burrow-town in the lower House as for their inc●ination to Protestant Religion or other private respects would easily conform themselves to the Queens intentions And amongst the Lords in the highe● House many great ones loth to be long absent from their Country Sports or by their first Acts to distaste the young Queen absented themselves from Parliament and gave their Proxies to the old Earl of Arundell a known Catholick and the Duke of Norfol●● his Son in law not doubting but that they would do all things to maintain their Religion against all uncermining thereof But it proved not so for the Earl put in to a vain hope of marrying the Queen when by his age he might have been more than her father and the Duke of Norfolk being neither sound in Religion and for other ends of his own not sincere in his proceedings prevailed by their many Proxi●s to exclude the Bishops from sitting in Parliament all holy and learned men able to have turned the businesse as they listed after which Vote passed the Queens party in both houses still prevailed so as not long after new Bishops in place of the old were chosen some come ●r●m Geneva others out of Germany of different Religions yet contented for honour we●lth and wives to joyn in any profession Seven of them were Apostata Monks and Friars and most of the rest meer Lay-men having neither Ordination nor Jurisdiction besides that which the Queen and Parliament could give them commonly therefore called the Parliament Bishops and Patent Prelates I know they have tried many waies and fained an old Record to prove their ordination from Catholick Bishops but it is false as I have received from two certain witnesses the former of them was Doctor Darbishire then Dean of S. of Pauls and Nephew to Doctor Bo●ner Bishop of London who almost sixty years since lived at Meuse Pont then a holy religious man very aged but perfect in sense and memory who speaking what he knew affirmed to my self and another with me that like good fellows they made themselves Bishops at an Inn because they could ●●t no true Bishops to consecrate them My other witnesse was a Gentleman of known worth and credit dead not many years since whose Father a chief Judge of this Kingdome visiting Archbishop Heath permitted by Queen Elizabeth his god-childe to live in Surrey at the Parsonage House of Cobham saw a letter sent from Bishop Bonner out of the Marshalsey by one of his Chaplains to the Archbishop read whilest they sate at Dinner together wherein he merrily related the manner how these new Bishops because he had disswaded Oglethorpe Bishop of Carlile from doing it in his Diocesse ordained one another at an Inn where they met together And whilest others laughed at this new manner of consecrating Bishops the Archbishop himself gravely and not without tears expressed his grief to see such a ragged company of men come poor out of Forraign parts and appointed to succeed the old Clergie in rich Deanries Prebendaries and Canons places who had such ill luck in meeting with dishonest Wives as an Ordination was put out by the Queen and Parliament That no woman should for a wife be commended to any Minister without her honesty could be testified withall sufficiently unto him and many who had been Clergie men before were urged either to take Wives or loose their Benefices as many were contento do and follow these Bishops examples The Tenents of Faith imbraced by the Queen and Parliament were Calvinian Doctrines but the form of Church Government was seemingly Catholick and the Title of Lord was to the new Bishops constantly to be continued and all other Officers under them as Deans c. And when some for their own ends would have had the new Bishops put to pensions the Queen would not hear of it as affecting the ancient splendour in her new Clergy And albeit Altars were pulled down and in place of the Masse a Book of Common Prayer ordained yet the Bishops were to keep their habits and the Ministers appointed to use Caps and Surplices for Decencies sake in time of Service much disliked afterwards by Puritans at home and Protestants abroad So that such professors are called usually by them Calvino-papiste Calvinian Papists Samaritans half Jews and half Gentiles And the Queen her self was for such ecclesiastical authority assumed by her so much disliked abroad

earthly inheritance and kingdome they will make him a King without any Dominion a Head without a body a Father without a family and a Pastor without a flock for many ages together Y●a if we will believe some of them Christs Church was no sooner settled in the truth of heavenly Doctrine but it d●clined superstitiously and wickedly from it The Centurists for example in their second ●●p 4. Century after a deniall of Saint Denis Areopagita his known Works becau●e they contain many points and practices of Doctrine against them have accus●d St. Ignatius who lived with our Saviour himself and wa● both for his life and death gloriously renowned for speaking of Priests Altars Sacrifice and severall Orders of Church Ministers not admitted by them of Colledges of Virgins and Widdows vowing to live chastly concerning the merit of good works and other declinings from the first purity of Christian Doctrine They accuse St. Irenaeu● for mentioning a Sacrifice according to the Order of Melchisedeck instituted under the forms of Bread and Wine by our Saviour himself in his last Supper taught by him to the Apostles and offered since in all parts of the World according to Cap. 1. Malachies prediction thereof and figured long before by Melchisedeck's oblation c. Others say Christs Church failed in Constantines time when it first began as a bright Sun to break out of the ●ark clouds of ten horrible Persecutions and spread its beams clearly throughout the world to the excessive joy of Christians as if at that very time Antichrist had begun his raign when Christs Church most flourished because then Pope Silvester a most glorious Confessor of Christ had the City of Rome for his residence assigned unto him by that glorious Emperour and they are inforced to this Blasphemy or else to allow of our present Church and Religion undoubtedly professed in Constantines time by the Sacrifice of the Mass solemnly celebrated with lights on the Altar with Prayer for the Dead Honour done unto Saints adoration of the sacred Host and kneeling before it images used in Churches c. as is in the Protestants Apologie for Catholicks plainly proved in a whole Chapter together Others affirm the utter overthrow of Christs Church to have happened in the time of Pope Boniface the third so as it hath been no where since vouchable and visible in any part of the world but wholly r●tired to the hearts of some faithfull Persons knowing but not daring to professe true Religion members indeed of a Church framed onely by imagination and fancy and living perchance in the land of Faries or ●ome inchant●d Ilands or in Concaves of the Moon out of this world where there is no memory to be found of them whereas our Catholick Church even in the horriblest times of persecution was by the glorious Martyrdoms of innumerable Saints men and women children also amongst them Apologies written in defence of our Christian Religion meetings of Bishops learned expositions of Scriptures and in many other manners maintained as is now testified unto us Wherefore other Protestant Doctors not to trouble themselves with such fopperies of an invisible Church remaining still in ours for so many ages together affirm our Catholick Church at all times to have been the only Catholick and known Church of Christ but not to have been altogether free from erroneous Tenents and practices of doctrine reformed forsooth by them since Luthers and Calvins departure from it Yet so as the Authors of this opinion differ about the imagined errours of our Church some affirm them to have been fundamentall damnable idola●rous and Antichristian which is the same as to say that during so many ages Christ had no true Church at all whilest others make a milder judgement of them and say that the being of a true Church was not hindred by the belief and practice of them so as they agree not in the very being before Luther of their Church and Religion The second part AND because they pretend our Church and Religion to have been resormed by them they shall give me leave here to declare what manner of men these Reformers were how they were first called to make this Reformation How they began it And to what antient Faith and Form of Church government they sought to reduce it And to discuss these points Comment in cap. 1. ad Galatas orderly my Reader must know that the first father of these Reformers was Martin Luther an Apostate Friar of St. Austins order who as he writeth himself lived chastely and well in his Monastery for fifteen years together but after his departure from it he became S●●m de Matrim by his own confession a very monster of Lust no more able to live without a woman than he could leave to be a man or forbear natural necessities of eating drinking spitting c. and luxury at one time so raged in him as for eight dayes together he could neither pray nor study and shortly after to asswage the heat thereof one night after Supper he married forsooth and took for his Bed-fellow Katheriue Bore a lusty Nun after eight years of her religious profession which troubled so much his friends and Melancthon chiefly that in an Epistle to Camerinus You know saith he the manner of Luthers life wherefore I had rather you should conjecture the rest then I write thereof onely I may say Luther is not a man made to live without a woman which surely was no great commendation for an apostolicall man as he by his discip●es is pretended to have been Carolastadius Luthers first Schollar Priest and Dean of Wit●enberg Church and Father of modern Sacramentarian Here●icks fierce unlearned and void almost of common judgement as Melanct●on described him prevented his Master in a like marriage and was quickly followed therein by Peter Martyr a Priest and Canon Regular by Martyr Bucer a Dominican Friar who both took Nuns for their B dfellows and soon after Oecolampidius a Brigitan Monk did the same and Bernardius Ochinus a Capuchin with him drawing others like themselves to follow their example insomuch as Zuinglius Priests and Canon of Constance Operum ejus tom 2. sol 110. with the rest of his f●llows in Swizzerland so much longed to have this Evangelical liberty of wiving also granted unto them as they humbly petitioned the M●gistrates of that country for the same as having already not without scandal of others experienced their own infirmity and unablenesse to live without women Calvin in like manner an under-Pastor of Noion after he became Luthers disciple had his Idoletta a Widdow of Strasburg and Beza his Candida truly called Claudia de Nossa with whom he lived four years before he married her enjoying her and Audibert his boy at the same time as himself in a wanton Poem expressed his lustfull delights wherein he seemed to have had most pleasure in his Boy to be much troubled that he could not enjoy them both together