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A08569	A learned and very eloquent treatie [sic], writen in Latin by the famouse man Heironymus Osorius Bishop of Sylua in Portugal, wherein he confuteth a certayne aunswere made by M. Walter Haddon against the Epistle of the said bishoppe vnto the Queenes Maiestie. Translated into English by Iohn Fen student of Diuinitie in the Vniuersitie of Louen; In Gualtherum Haddonum de vera religione libri tres. English	Osório, Jerónimo, 1506-1580.; Fenn, John, 1535-1614.	1568 (1568)	STC 18889; ESTC S100859	183,975	578

the Image of the Crosse was printed and engrauē in the hearts of all men this multitude of Images was not so necessari● But you doe much like as if a man should say that the remedies of diseases were the causes of diseases for the picture did not cause men to forgette holie thinges but rather it was wisely deuised that men might not forgette them If the vse of Images quenched as you saie that feruēcie of spirit with the which men were inflamed in the olde tyme then must it needes folow that when Images were first ouerthrowē of you you were by and by verie hote in spirite Tel me therefore if it please you When you first brake downe the Images tables and other monumentes of Saintes when you defaced them māgled them and dasshed them in a thousand peeces when you burned the relikes of the most holie Martyr S. Thomas was there foorth with enkendled in you so great a heat as you speake of were you by and by wholly inflamed with fier from heauen I beleeue there fell from aboue not onely fierie tongues but also fierie heartes and bowelles the heate and flames whereof wrought with you so extremely that you are not able by any meanes to abide this straūge force of loue which burneth within you Neither do you now liue vpon the earth but in hearte and mind you are in heauen For euen as vpon the ouerthrow of the authoritie of the bishop of Rome ther arose out of hand a new sonne emōgest you so must it nedes folow that vpon the pulling downe of Images vppon the breaking of the monumentes of Christ crucified vpon the digging vp of the graue of the holy Martyr and burning of his bones you cōceiued foorth with such a fier of heauenly loue in your bowelles that there is nothing in the world to be seene in your heartes but only that same hoat and sierie loue of God If it be so I commend the vehemencie of your spirite I allowe your doing I thinke this worthie acte of yours deserueth immortall fame and honour for what so euer quencheth the feruencie of the spirite what so euer doth any thing breake or weaken the force of loue it would be put back with the whole bent of the hart Neither ought we to beare anie thing in the world that might cause a dulnes or slakenes in the minde But if it be nothing so if after the breaking downe and defacing of the goodlie monumentes of vertue you were not inflamed by and by with fier from heauen then it is most euident that the Images and reliques of holie men buried vnder the grownde did nothing hinder you from that feruent loue of God Whie then what the diuell madnes came into your heads that you should be so earnestly bent to make a waste and spoile of thinges whereof you could take no commoditie in the worlde At the length you speake verie earnestly as you doe often against the diuinitie of the schoole doctours wherin I can not much blame you for you haue good cause to be offended with them whose whole drifte both of mindes and disputation is altogether against you For they haue receiued a pure and true Doctrine from holie men you haue taken a pudlie and stinking doctrine of most wicked persons They are bound to the verie auncient Religion that was deliuered from the Apostles you falling from the auncient religion are wickedly flitted to this new fangled secte They for the most part of them doe worship Christ with honest conuersation and vpright cōscience but you haue done and spoken manie thinges verie impudentlie and rashly to the reproche and dishonour of Christ Nowe whereas you impute the cause of Images to them you shew your selfe to be not only very shamelesse but also very witlesse ●or you doe not accompt emongest the schoole Doctours Cyrillus or Athanasius or Ierome or Ambrose or Augustine Whome then Dowbtlesse such as folowed Petrus Lombardus and beganne manie yeares after his tyme to expound openly in schooles his Sentences as they cal them gathered out of the bookes of the holie Fathers and brought into one volume Petrus Lōbardus flourished about the yeare of our Lord. 1141. And the second Councel of Nice was kept in the yeare 781. Neither was it firste decreed in that coūcel that Images shuld be set vp but that they should not be pulled down And the herefie of such as would haue them to be ouerthrowen was there condemned by the ful agreement of al the fathers Of the which errour as it appeared by the testimonials brought into the Councel the firste brochers were certaine Manichees and Marcionistes It was there declared at that time by the authoritie of Basile Gregorie of Nissa Cyril Ierom Augustin and by the custome receiued in the Church euen from the Apostles time that the Images of Christ of his most blessed Mother and of other holie men had ben set vp vpon a great good consideration to call the mindes of men continually to remēbre the goodnes of God In the selfe same Councel also was read an oratiō of Athanasius of a miracle whiche was wrought at Berith a citie of Syria when certaine Iewes pearced the Image of Christe with a speare For out of the wound flowed out bloud whervpō the Iewes were turned vnto Christe And although in the Apostles time suche signes were nothing necessarie and as then it was not lawful through the tyrannie of Princes to builde Churches and to bewtifie them with comely ornaments yet doe the auncient monumentes declare that euen at that time there was some vse of Images As for the Images of the Crosse there is no doubt for so much as the most aunciēt monumentes both of Aethiopia and India make mention of them In that part of India which is within the riuers Indus and Ganges towardes the east there is a towne called Mailapur and belongeth to the great kingdō of Narsingua where the bodie of S. Thomas was buried Ther not many yeares ago was digged out by the prouidēce of God a great Crosse made of stone whose top and both sides an arke hewen out of the same stone couered wherein were engrauen letters of verie great antiquitie whiche no man could reade but such as were lerned in the aunciēt letters of the Bracmans The meaning of the letters as it was afterwardes founde was a storie of the death of S. Thomas whiche declared howe a holie man named Thomas in the time of King Sangam ruler of those landes was sent of the sonne of God to visite those countreis and to bring the people vnto the knowledge of God and how the ennemies of religion crucified him vpon the same Crosse ▪ And the Crosse euen at this daie is smeared with spottes of bloud Eusebius also writeth that in a citie called Philips Cesarea there was a brasen Image of Christ set vpō a foote of a good heith and before it an other Image of a woman ▪ the whiche being sometime sicke of a bloudie

puritie you vsed in the doing of it For it is like that such fine and deintie felowes as you are were offended with our ceremonies the which peraduēture might seeme vnto you very stale and old and therefore you deuised other much trimmer then oures the whyche you haue brought not neere but as you terme it exceding neere to the very paterne of the gospel You say afterward that the Church matters are ordered by the bishops but when there i● ought to be decreed the diuines do determine it It is euident that you cal thē diuines who were brought vp vnder Bucer or Caluin Why then haue you diminished the right of bisshops for it perteineth to the bishops to determine the diuines haue no more to doe but only to assist the bishoppes with their aduise But you in geauing ouer the right of the bishops to the diuines declare that your bishops are no diuines Your bishops therfore are as the common report is not only poore scrapers and base felowes but also vtterly ignorant in the holie Scriptures And menne say that the principall cause whie they are chosen is that they muste content them selues with some scantling of their reuenewes and leaue the rest to be rifled of you vnder pretence of the Queenes escheker If this be not true you muste not blame me a man as you say your selfe vnacqueinted in the affaires of Englād but the false report of your il willers Yet this I warne you that you and such as you are doe susteine the great dint of this infamie For when you choose suche Bishops you make menne suspecte that you are greedie and coueteous You conclude at the length that both the administratiō of the bishops and decrees of the diuines are authorised by the confirmation of the Quenes Maiestie Whie then if there shalbe anie thing done by the bishops or els determined by the diuines that is not for the Queenes profitte that shal not be ratified Here you speake darkely I can not tel what of the Kinges of Israel as though the Priestes in olde time had done al thinges that concerned religion after the prescribed ordre of kinges the which is false You say afterward Then the gospel succeding and diuiding these powers in the first place it setteth the authoritie of Kinges and vnder it other powers by the authoritie of Peter and Paule whose names you abuse to set vp the kingdom of the sea of Rome O what a plague and destruction of common weales what a whirle wind and tempest to your most flourishing Ilād what an vtter ruine and decaie of al kingdomes and peoples is this that is comprised vnder the naughtines audacitie crueltie and coueteousnes of flatterers What wild beast can anie man deuise in the worlde more horrible and crewel then it is For what so euer the pleasure of Kinges standeth vnto be it neuer so wicked heinouse and vngodly be it not only hurtful to the common weale but also cōtrarie to al good and godly ordre it is made forthwith by those clawbackes whome thei cal to their counsel to be dewtiful iust commēdable religious most wholesome to the cōmon weale and most acceptable to God The which thing is wel knowen to haue chaunced vnto king Henry who was vntil that time both for his vertue wit and deedes a moste noble and renowmed Prince For when as the king had cōceiued an earnest loue and also an earnest displeasure and was desirous both to satisfie his loue and also to reuēge the displeasure taken of the Pope who forbad the new mariage he was brought by the persuasion and authoritie of a certaine wicked man to beleeue that he was suprem head of al the Churches that are within the realme of England This thing was the vndoing of the bishop of Rochester and More and of other holie mē that abid extreme punishments if a most honorable death constantly suffred for the glory of Christ and establishing of religion may be called an vndoing From hence as out of a flou●dgate issued so many pestilent opiniōs such a broile of sectes and heresies suche outrages of lewd felowes into the state of the Church of Englād to the great decay of the auncient custome But what was the place the which that most vile corrupter would abuse to proue it Submit your selues saith S. Peter to euery wordly wight for gods sake whether it be to the King as to the more excellēt personage or els to the rulers as sent frō God for the punishment of malefactours and cōmendation of good men ▪ what other thing doth S. Peter in these words but only cut of al occasion of disordre and outrage for he would not that by the pretensed name of the libertie of the gospel the cōmon weale should be disordered or the society of men by ciuil policie gathered together be dissolued And therfore doth he bind al Christiā men to the lawes and ordinaunces of menne so that they be not against the lawe of God He commaundeth seruantes to obey their maisters be they neuer so crewel womē to obey their husbandes husbandes to honour their wiues children to obei their parentes ▪ parentes to loue their children and to prouide for their bringing vppe and mayntenaunce Finally the holie Apostle commaundeth that ordre both in commaunding and obeying be kept whether it be publike or priuat without any grudging or pretending of excessiue libertie The which ordre was to be kept of Christian men with so much the more diligence as it was cōuenient that their vertue should shine more then the vertue of other menne The selfe same thing doth S. Paule when he warneth vs to submitte our selues to the magistrates and to obey the lawful cōmaundementes of Princes He teacheth maisters and seruantes parents and childrē housbands and wiues the very same lessons I demaund now of you what goodly pregnant wit is this of yours or rather of them that brought you into so great an errour that they would picke such a meaning as you speake of out of these words of S. Peter Did this word More excellent moue you to doe ▪ it Surely that were a manifest token of a verie great folie and extreme madnes For so do we saie in common sp●ach that that man doth excell in nobilitie or is More excellent whiche is in deede verie noble although he be not of all other moste noble So doe we saie also that a man excelleth or is More excellent then other in vertue or learning or authoritie the which passeth other in these qualities although he passe not al the worlde in them The selfe same signification and meaning hath the Greeke word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and such is the vse of it Moreouer when we saie that an●● man excelleth in some one thing we doe not by and by in so saying yeald that he doth excel in al thinges but in that thing only whereof we spake If mention were made of the ciuile law and we would saie that M.