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A01992 The wise vieillard, or old man. Translated out of French into English by an obscure Englishman, a friend and fauourer of all wise old-men; Sage vieillard. English Goulart, Simon, 1543-1628.; Williamson, Thomas, 1593-1639.; T. W., obscure Englishman. 1621 (1621) STC 12136; ESTC S103357 144,385 222

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noble men The counsells of old men are more regarded then the strength of young men In the common weale of Israel there was an expresse ordinance of God touching the honour due to old men which Moyses recites in these words Rise vp before the hoare-head honour the person of the aged man and feare thy God Leuit. 19. 32. Elihu in the two and thirtieth Chapter of Iob. 6. verse doth declare what reuerence was giuen in those dayes to aged persons And Salomon in his 16. Chapter of the Prouerbes ver 31. sayth Old age is a crowne of glorie when it is found in the way of righteousnesse The common-weale of Israel had a long time the auncientest of the people to the number of threescore and ten to gouerne it men of great age and experience who were very much respected men of great authoritie and represented the whole bodie of the people as all the holy historie doth verefie It is apparant that Rehoboam the sonne of Salomon for not giuing credit to the counsell of old men lost almost his whole kingdome 1 King 12. Young counsellors were authors of this confusion by which it appeareth how wise Dauid and Salomon had beene in their iust gouernment to haue still gray headed men about them and attending on their persons and what miserie doth ensue to Princes to despise and not regard wise old men The auncient Iewes had this saying that it is bonum omen a good signe to see an old man in a house This saying seemes to bee taken from the first of Samuel and second Chapter where the Lord threatning the high Priest Eli saith There shall neuer bee an old man of thine house all that descend of thine house shal dye in the flower of their age and when they be men growen The same Iewes had a saying also That those countries wherein there are no old men to be seene doe deserue to bee ouerrunne wasted and spoyled by enemies They haue an eye of regard to the sentence pronounced in the third Chapter of Isaiah where the Lord threatneth Ierusalem and Iuda to giue them young men for their gouernours and children should rule ouer them and further sayth That women are Lords ouer them In the booke of Ecclesiasticus there are many worthy wise sentences and sayings in the honour of old age It shall suffice to note two or three of them Dishonour not a man in his old age for they were as wee which are not old they haue beene taught of their fathers and of them thou shalt learne wisedome and to make an answere in time of need Chap. 8. And in the 25. Chapter he sayth That it is a pleasant thing to beholde gray headed men minister iudgement and for a man to haue his cause referred to the elders who can giue good counsell Also that experience is the crowne of old men and the feare of the Lord is their glory Cyrus in Zenophon reports that the Persians had a law enioyning all men to be silent when an Elder should speake to giue him the wall when they mett him in th● streetes and to set open and cleare the passage wayes when he should goe any iourney or voyage Yea the auncient Grecians as Hesichius obserueth gaue titles of Maiestie to old men naming them Excellencies Kings Princes In the auncient Romaine Common weale great reuerence was done to old men as Callistratus the Lawyer witnesseth And the Poet Ovid in his third Booke treating of pride and haughtinesse of minde remembers that the auncient Romaines did greatly reuerence old age It is wonderfull what Plutarch in diuers places doth relate of the priuiledges of old age in the Common weale of Sparta which flourished many hundred yeares so long as the young men gaue care and credit to the counsell of old men And Zenophon in a Discourse of the Grecian state worthily sayth that Pharnabazus stood vp to speake because hee was the auncientest common counsell man Moreouer in the auncient Romaine or Latine tongue that is called Antiqué which is honest of credit and authoritie And Cicero sayth in one place Ne dubites quin quod honestius id mihi futurum sit antiquius And in another place At salus antiquior id est potior militum quam impedimentorum A manner of speech and phrase vsuall also among the Grecians as Plato mentioneth in his Sympose and Pollux in his second Booke of Synonimaes Let vs conclude this whole Discourse of the priuiledges of old age with that which the Apostle propoundeth in the 1 Timoth. 5. Where he forbiddeth Timothie his scholler all others rudely to rebuke Elders Vnlesse as S. Gregory sayth they be scandalous and an euill example to others For Chrysostome sayth that an old man of a youthfull and light behauiour is more ridiculous then lasciuious fond toying young men CHAP. XIII Of the profit which wise old men may reape from the Doctrine conteined in the writings of Philosophers and Heathen Authors SAint Augustine teacheth in the fourth Chapter of his second Booke of Christian doctrine that if heathen Philosophers haue had the happ to pen Documents and Instructions agreeable to the truth which we professe so farre beside the marke and vncouth is it that we should estrange and withdraw our selues from the vse of them that on the contrary wee must take out of their hands as from vniust possessors and conuert to our vse whatsoeuer they haue wisely written For if in the composition of Antidotes and counterpoysons Vipers flesh be mixed and incorporated in treacle Who shall let vs not to draw and extract from the doctrine of Gentiles and heathens many worthie remedies against vices we learning in other books the right knowledge of the true God Vndoubtedly we doe finde in Plato Aristotle Zenophon Isocrates Cicero Seneca Plutarch yea in the Greeke and auncient Latine Poets infinite lessons and instructions touching vices and vertues We doe read in the Histories penned by many learned heathens of wonderfull things which may be called the racke and billes of fearefull inditements against Christians before the iudgement seate of God We see in the Gospel that Iesus Christ doth propound the examples of the Queene of Saba of the Niniuites of the men of Tyre and Sidon to the end to strike a terrour in the Iewes Wherefore then should we make any scruple to alledge some testimonies of Heathens touching the happie estate and condition of old age It shall suffice to giue the wise Vieillard some taste of them leauing him to remember the rest or to learne them in the fore-named Authors and in others which hee shall remember I commend vnto him the lawes of Plutarch especially of the auncient Greeke and Romaine Captaines Also the Apophthegmes and wise sentences and particularly the whole Treatise of the same Author in his opuscula intituled Whether an old man ought to meddle with publique affaires and negotiations The Dialogue of old age in Cicero is excellent And in the Discourses of Socrates in Plato and