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A15781 A briefe treatise in which, is made playne, that Catholikes liuing and dying in their profession, may be saued, by the iudgement of the most famous and learned Protestants that euer were. Agaynst a minister [N.E.] who in his epistle exhorteth an honourable person, to forsake her ancient Catholike Roman Religion, & to become one of his new-found-out Protestant congregation. Wright, William, 1563-1639. 1623 (1623) STC 26044; ESTC S103083 31,010 52

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omnes Bed l. 1. hist S. Edwin King of Northumberland Martyr Anno Bed l. 2. Hist 634. Stow. Cambd. S. Oswald King of Northumberland Martyr Anno Bed 3. hist Bed l. 3. c. 24. hist Bed l. 3. hist c. 18. Bed l. 4. c. 11. Bed l. 5. c. 7. Bed l. 5. Ingulp alij Abb. Floriac 645. Stow. Cambd. Holinsh. omnes in Chron. S. Oswine King of Deiri vnder the Northumbers Martyr Anno 651. Stow. Cambd. Holinsh. S. Sigebert King of the East-Angles Martyr Anno 652. Stow. Holinshed c. S. Sebb●s King of the East-saxons Confessour Anno 675. Stow. Holinsh. c. S. Ceadwall King of the West-saxons Confessour Anno 689. Stow. Holinsh. c. S. Ethelred King of the Mercians Confessour Anno Mar. Scot. Wion 710. Stow. Holinsh. Cooper S. Alfred King of Northumberland Confessour Anno Pol. Virg. Math. West Malmesb. 720. Stow. Holinsh. Cooper S. Inas King of the West-saxons Cōnfessour Anno 727. Stow. Cambden Holinshed ● Ceolnulph King of Northumberland Confessour Bed l. ● c. 9. Westmon Sur. tom 1. Wion Epit. Bed Pol. Virg. Westmon Pol. Virgil. Io. Capgrau Molan Vincent in spec Mart. Rom. alij Malmesb. l. 1. de Reg. Ba●on tom 10. Annal. Malmesb. Westm Abbo Flor. Petr. in Catal. Mar. Scot. Abb. Flor. in Histor Io. les●aeus hist Scot. ●ol Virg. l. 6. Sur. in vita Mart. Rom. Sur. alij Hect. l. 12. hist Scot. Leslaeus alij Pol virg Harpesfield in hist Registr Ecc. Windesor Anno 737. Stow. Cooper alij recent S. Richard King of Kent Confessour Anno 750. Camb. Brit. S. Egbert King of Northumberland Confessour Anno 768. Stow. Cambd. S. Ethelbert King of the east Angles Martyr Anno 793. Cambd. in his Brit. Hereford S. Fremund King of the Mercians Martyr Anno 796. Stow. Cambd. S. Kenelmus King of the Mercians Martyr Anno 821. Cambd. Stow. Holinsh. S. Ethelwold King of the Northumbers Martyr Anno 790. Cambd. Stow. Holinsh. S. Ethelnulph King of the West-saxons Confessour Anno 857. Stow. Holinsh. S. Edmund King of Northumberland Martyr 870. Cambd. Brit. in Suffolke Stow omnes S. Ethelred King of the West-saxons Martyr Anno 872. Stow. Holinsh. S. Alfred King of the West-saxons Confessour An. 899. Cambd. Stow omnes S. Duffus King of Scotland Martyr Anno 972. Cambd. Brit. in Murray S. Edgar Monarke of England Confessour Anno 975. Stow. Holinsh. omnes S. Edward King of the West-saxons Martyr Anno 978. Stow. Cambd. omnes S. Edward the Confessour K. of England Anno 1069. Cambd. Stow Holinsh. S. Malcolme King of Sco●land Confessor Anno 1092. Cambd Stow omnes B. Henry the sixt of Englād at whose body in Winde●ore very many miracles byn haue wrought Anno 1479. Stow. Holinsh. Cambd. in Surrey Queenes Niceph. Socr. Mart. Rom. In vita S. Edwini Reg. Matth. Westmon Pol. Vir. Vincent in spec Wion l. 4 ligni vitae Beda l. 4. Tritem de vit Illustr Mart. Rom. Bed l. 4. Westmon anno 640. Bed l. 4. c. 26. Wion l. 4. ligni vitae Bed l. 4. c. 23. Wion alij Tit. de vir illust Pol. Virg. Capgr Pol. Virg. Hereb de fastis Sanct. Ethelwerdus in Chron. Matth. West an 904. an 901. 92● Wion in ligvi●ae S. Helen Empresse borne at Colchester She liued about Anno 320. Cambd. in Britan. in Essex Stow. omnes S. Ethelburge Queene of Northumberland Anno 647. Cambd. Stow. c. S. Ermenburge Queene of the Mercians Anno 654. Stow. Cambd. alij S. Chinneburge Queene of the West-saxons Anno 670. Cambd. Chron. Brit. S. Ermenild Queene of the Mercians Anno. 678. Stow. Cambd. S. Audry Queene of Northumberland Anno 680. Cambd. Brit. in Cambridgshire S. Sexburge Queene of Kent Anno 686. Stow. Cambd. in Brit. alij S. Eanflede Queene of Northumberland Anno 690. Cambd. Brit. Stow. in Cronic S. Hereswide Queene of Eastangles Anno 690. Cambd. Brit. Holinshed alij S. Edilburge Queene of West-saxons Anno 840. Stow. Holinsh. alij S. Osith Queene of the Eastangles Anno 870. Cambd. in Brit. in Essex alij omnes S. Eue Queene of the Mercians Anno 878. Cambd. in Brit. in Glocest. S. Ethelwide Queene of the West-saxons Anno 904. Stow. Cambd. Holinsh. S. Eadgith Queene of Northumberland Anno 926. Camb. Brit. Howes S. Algiue Queene Mother to King Edgar Anno 964. Matth. west anno 943. 955. 974. Pol. Vir. Ranulph Cicestr hist Angl. Hist Scot. excus Frankford l. 7. West Paris an 1067. Abb. Flor. in eius vita Mar. Rom Surius omnes Matth. West Paris Sur. in act S. Margar. Concert Eccl. Angl. Didac de Yepes Ep. Taraconens Histor de schis Anglic. Camb. Brit. Stow. Holinsh. S. Wilfride Queene Wife to King Edgar Anno 987. Camb. Brit. Stow. Holinshed S. Agatha Queene wife to K. Edward the Out-law Anno 1072. Camb. Brit. Stow. alj S. Margaret Queene of Scotland Anno. 1092. Cambd. in Scotland Stow. omnes S. Maude Queene of England An. 1118. Camb. Stow. Holinshed B. Mary Stewart Queene of Scotland Anno 1587. Camb. in Britan. in his Elizabetha fusiùs D. Willet in his Antilog of the Engl. Protest to the King where he wonderfully extolls her for Holines and truth of Religion Besides these there are numbred aboue 500. Men Women of the Kings Children and Bloud Royall of our Iland that haue in ancient Catholike tymes dedicated themselues to God in holy Religion this by the testimony of our owne Protestant writers FINIS
do raigne most gloriously with Iesus Christ the King of glory in Heauen This being so set downe let vs proceed to the lury Faultes to be corrected In the title of the Preface all cauills read some cauills Pag. 8. lin vlt. Subbs read Stulbs Pag. 14. lin 2. humble more humble Pag. 18. lin 23. name of a man as read name of a man to a man as c. Pag. 25. in the margent adde Luth. declarat quorumdam artic cited by Coccius tom 1. lib. 7. Thesauri pag. 855. A GRANDE IVRY Of most famous and learned Protestants assuring all Catholiques of their Saluation if they liue and dye well in the Catholique Roman Fayth and Church The Names of the Iury Men. D Luther M Caluin D. Whitaker D. C●●ell D. Morton M. Hooker Zanchius Sclusselburg Polanus Iunius Boyswell Bunny Plessis Mornay Serauia D. White D. Willet Sir Edwin Sands M. Stubbs M. Holynshed D. Godwin M. Cambden Crentremius Theater of great Brit. M. Fox WE suppose as graunted out of the Rom. 1. Act. 18. 30. Apostles that the Church of Rome was once the true Church of God and so to haue continu●d for diuers hundred yeares as the Protestants themselues confesse For M. Iewell would haue vs belieue That as well Saint Augustine as also other godly Fathers Iewell in his Reply to M. Harding pag. 246. rightly yielded reuerence to the Sea of Rome c. for the purity of religion which was preserued there a long time without spot Seeing it was a thing notorious sayth M. Caluin and without doubt that after the Apostles age Caluin in his Instit in french lib. 4. sect 3. Protestant Apol. pag. 210. vntill these times to wit of Saint Augustine no change was made in doctrine neither at Rome nor at any other Cittyes which was 440. yeares after Christ But D. Morton confirming M. Iewells chalenge auerreth that protestants in oppugning D. Mort. Appeale lib. 4. c. 30. pag. 573. ●74 doctrines which they cal new and not Catholike are so far off from suffering the limitation of the first 440. yeares that they giue the scope of the first 600. years within the compasse of which Saint Gregory liued who sent Sain● Augustine the Monke into England and therefore he acknowledgeth that the Pagan and Heathenish people by the light of the Ghospell through the Ministery of Augustin the Legate of Saint Gregory were brought into the fold of Christ And heerehence sayth B. Morton our authours called it a gratious Morton lib. 1. pag. 60. conuersion But now this being supposed that the Church of Rome was the true Church for so many ages togeather in the which saluation was to be had It remayneth that we demonstrate and shew how not only then but also euer after that time euen vnto this day that Church hath been the only Arke and sanctuary in the which whosoeuer haue liued and dyed well could not miscary nor misse of their saluation and that therefore there is no reason why any being a member of that Church should leaue it and be take himselfe to any other assembly or Congregation seeing there is but one true Church and that in her saluation can be obteyned and in all others nothing but damnation is to be expected Which we will endeauour to proue out of the testimonies of most Bale likewise sayth That Augustin was sent from Gregory to season the English with the Popish faith that King Ethelbert dyed one twenty yeares after h● had receaued Popery Cent. 1. fol. 3. M. Napiere The Pope with his Clergy neuer suffered for the space of a thousand yeares after Siluester the first any to be seene vouchable or visible of the true Church pag. 239. Holynshed in the History of England graue and learned Protestants Supposing out of Venerable Bede that Saint Augustine was sent by S. Gregory to this our Nation to conuert it aboue 1000. yeares since from Paganisme to Christ For these be his words Saint Augustine coming into England deliuered his errand to King Ethelbert saying he came from Rome and brought a ioyfull message which whosoeuer would obey should haue eternal ioyes a perpetuall Kingdome with the true and liuing God Which is confirmed out of your owne Protestant English Historiographers and therfore we will begin with their verdicts and make them as the Formen of this sufficient full and complete Protestant Iury of whome we will choose Holynshed to be the first Holynshed therfore speaking of Saint Augustine writeth thus Augustine sayth he and his company arriued at Canterbury where he made his aboad by the Kings permission exercised the life of the Apostles in fasting cloathing and prayers and preaching the word of God to as many as they could despsing all wordly pleasures as not appertayning to them receauing only of them whome they taught things seeming necessary to the sustenance of their life all liuing in all points according to the doctrine which they set forth Item At last King Ethelbert was perswaded by the good example of Saint Augustine and his company and by miracles shewed to be baptized And M. Fox speaking of Saint Augustine writeth thus At length when the King had Fox lib ● pag. 116. of his Acts. c. wel considered the honest conuersation of their life and moued with their miracles wrought through Gods hands by them he heard them I doubt not but God affoarded many miracles to the first in●ā●y of our Church So D Godwin in the life of S. Dauid more gladly and lastly by their holsome exhortations example of good life he was by them conuerted and christened in the yeare 596. Saint Augustine sayth Cambden cōmonly called the Apostle of the English sent hither by Gregory the great hauing destroied the Mōsters of Hethenish impiety with most happy successe planting Christ in their minds conuerted them Cambden in his Britan. pag. 125. to the Christian faith Agayne Straight vpon the preaching of the name of Christ the English did consecrate themselues vnto Christ in so feruent a manner that the diligence is incredible they vsed in the propagation of the name of Christ in the performance of the duties therof in the diuulging of Christian religion in building of Churches in enriching and adorning of the same that no Prouince of Christēdome could haue numbred more Monasteryes then England could in Catholike times euen Fox pag. 137. That none of all these Kings Queenes Princes and Prelats were Protestants is proued in the prudētiall Ballance and the Protestants themselues cōfesse no lesse For M. Nappiere saith That for these thousand two hundred and threescore years the Pope his Clergy hath possessed the outward and visible Church of Christiās reigning without any debatable contradiction Gods truth to wit the Protestant Church most certainly abiding so long latent and inuisible vpon the Reuel pag. 145. some Kings haue preferred religious and monasticall liues before Kingdoms So many haue been the holy men that England
vntill for very wearines he layd downe his head vpon a stone which he there placed insteed of a boulster Also Fox sayth he was full Fox Acts. 206. God win in his life of deuotion and Godwin that he was most canonically elected and presently after his consecration became so graue so austere so deuout in all outward shew as he seemed quite another man King Henry the second his voluntary pennance for giuing some cause or occasion of his death the same day was rewarded by a glorious Godwin in vit Bald win They lackt the doctrine know ledge in Christs Ghospel especially in the article of free iustification by faith and therefore sayth Fox they ran the wrong way Acts. pag 133. And agayne speaking of our ancient Cristian Kings he vseth these words How great the blindnes ignorance of these men was who wanting no zeale wanted knowledg seeking their saluation by their meritorious deeds which I write saith he here to put vs in mynd how much we at this present are bound to God for the true sinceerity of his truth hidden so long before to our forancestors opened now to vs This only lamenting to see them haue such works and want our fayth and we to haue a right fayth want their workes pag. 133. Victory agaynst his enemies And what deuotion our Ancestors had to this Saint may be seene by the riches they gaue to his Shryne of which Shrine Erasmus relateth that the basest part was gold it all shined glittering and cast forth lightning by reason of the rare and mighty gemmes and pretious stones yea the whole Church in euery part abounded more then with royall riches And euery one sayth Godwin thought himselfe happy that could doe any thing to his honour But now as D. Barlow sayth although Kinges haue many occasions which may allure them to sinne especially hauing that priuiledge in scripture whether ex gratia or de facto whether from exemption from God or grace of men that no man may say vnto them Why doe you this Yet among our anncient Catholike Kings haue been so many and so eminent in all kind of deuotion holines and sanctity as we need not bring in any other for our present purpose sauing only some of them set downe to haue been such Yea euen by our owne learned Protestant authors For King Oswald sayth Stow with a small army ouercame the Brittans and slew Ceadwall their King He sent for Aidan a Scot to aduance the Christian Religion among his people gaue him holy Iland for his sea he enlarged his Kingdom reconciled the Deiri Bernitians which deadly hated one another he was slayne by the ●●gans fighting for his Coūtry at last saith Stow was canonized for a Saint● whose faith deuotion was so great sayth Beda that he did Theater pag. 337. shine with miracles after his death Of this King Oswalds hand other Protestāts write for being bountifull to the poore That after his death it neuer consumed but was shrined in siluer in S. Peters Church at Bedda now Bambrough with worthy honour was worshipped for the miracles eures that it did as likwise the earth wheron his bloud was spilt King Canutus went on Pilgrimage to Theater of great Britany pag. 391. 392. Rome to visit the sepulcher of Saint Peter and Saint Paul built many Churches and Abbeyes greatly reuerenced Saint Bennet he offered vp his crowne vpon the Martyrs Saint Edmunds Tombe Most rich and Royall Iewells he gaue to the Church of Winchester whereof one is recorded to be a Crosse worth as much as the whole reuenew of England amounted to in one yeare He set his crowne on the head of the picture of our Sauiour on the Crosse at Winchester neuer wearing it more Cooper sayth that for his vertuous life he was Cooper A● 1027. worthy to liue perpetually He was of great magnificence and vsed such Iustice and temperance that in his dayes there was no Prince of renowne towards God humble and lowly Amongst al the Saxon Kings hitherto is foūd none to be preferred or almost to be compared with Alfred for the great and singular qualities in this King worthy of ●●gh renown sayth Fox whether we behould his valiant acts and manifold trauells for his Countrey or his godly and excellent vertues ioyned with a publike tender care of the weale publike or whether we Bale cent cap. 43. Cambd. pag. 444. Malmesb. lib 2. c. 4. Westm An. 892. 871. respect his notable knowledge of good letters with a feruēt desire to set forth the same throghout all his Realme He fought sayth Bale 57. tymes with the Danes according to Camb●en repressed them at his pleasure He wrote promulgated most Christian lawes caused such peace as he made bracelets of gold to be hūg vp in the high way which none durst touch He dayly hard Masse sayd his houres Matins in the night season vnknowne to all his seruants he frequented Churches to heare seruice In repayring beautifying and enriching monasteries he laboured earnestly among which he built See Fox pag. 142. two of great renowne he was crowned and anointed by Pope Leo was tearmed his adoptiue child sayth M. Bale to whome S. Cuthbert Fox Acts. lib. 3. p. 154. appeared when he was in distresse assuring him that he should ouercome the Danes as he did indeed King Edgar sayth Fox was much giuen to all vertuous princely acts worthy of much commendation and famous memory excellent in Iustice maintained the Godly loued the modest was deuout to God and beloued of his subiects whome he gouerned in much peace and quietnes No yeare passed in the tyme of his Reygne in which he did not some singuler and necessary commodity for the common-wealth Houed●n pag. 426. A great maintener of Religion and learning He had in readines 3600. ships of warre and made 8. Kings to row him in a boate he sitting at Fox lib. 3. pag. 154. Prud. Ballance pag. ●31 the sterne and guiding it Moreouer he was a great patron of Monkish religion builded as some say as many Monasteries as there be Sundayes in the yeare or as Edne ●porteth 48. Saint Editha was this Kings daugher who from her infancy was brought vp in a monastery and would not refuse Cooper an 975. Stow. p. 113. that life to enioy the crowne after her brother King Edwards death Cooper and Stow write how Saint Edward Martyr was in all kind of honest vertues comparable to his Father Edgar began his soueraignity Fox Acts. pag. 159. Cooper An. 977. Cambd. Brittan pag. 70● with much modesty and mildnes and worthily fauoured of all Was a vertuous and noble Prince sayth Fox much pitifull and bountifull to the poore for him sayth Cooper after his death God shewed many miracles Of King Edward the first Cambden writeth thus He was a Prince far excelling in whose most valiāt mind God chose a most
Countrey Protestants Of the Protestants there will be as little question And in particular M. Iacob writeth thus The Bishops M. Iacob p. 73. of England when they deale with the Puritans must ioyne plainely with the Catholiks in their answers if they will maintayne themselues So that we see in the iudgement of all both Catholikes Lutherans Caluinists Protestants Puritans that to remayne in the Catholike Church and to liue and dye in it is the securest way to attayne to our chiefest good and at last to receaue the promised reward of our endles happynes ioy and euerlasting saluation the which is confirmed by no lesse a man then D. Luther himselfe with whome we will end That the Roman Church of God sayth he before al others is to be honored there is no doubt S. Peter S. Paul forty six Romā Bishops so many hundred thousand Martyrs haue shed their bloud haue ouercome Hell death that it may euen be felt what a singular respect God hath to that Church And if now alas the matter so goeth at Rome as it were expedient it went better yet neither is there or can be so great cause that a separation or departure be made Heerehence those Protestants Offer of cōfer pag. 16. which offered Conference speaking of themselues say That if the ministers to wit the Puritanes be in errour they protest to all the world that the Pope and the Church of Rome and in them God Christ Iesus himselfe haue had great wrong and indignity offered vnto them in that they are reiected and that all the Protestant Churches are Schismaticall in forsaking vnity and communion with them And a little before speaking of some position among them offered then to be disputed they write in plaine tearmes how diuers of the positions are such that if the Offer of cōfer pag. 11. ministers should not constantly hould mainraine the same against all men they cannot see how possibly by the Rules of diuinity the separation of our Churches from the Church of Rome and from the Pope the supreme head therof can be iustified But now if in the Church of Rome there be true Christianity and Sanctity yea and the very kernell of Christianity if she be the Temple and Sanctuary of God in the which remaynet his Couenant inuiolable and all diuine things If she be the spouse of Christ the family of Iesus Christ and the mother Church conteyning all things necessary to saluation If she be the Church in which our Ancestours liued and were saued if she continued alwayes adorned with all kind of Christian good Enobled with most learned iust godly persons fraught with all kind of good workes of Miracles piety deuotion if she hath bred more Kings and Queenes Saints then were euer of of those tytles Protestants in all the Christian world and if now to conclude ●●re neyther is nor can be any sufficient cause wy●●● should separate themselues from that Church If all his be true as Protestants themselues haue now in this Grand-Iury acknowledged and confessed I do not doubt but euery one may see perceaue that whosoeuer liueth a true mēber of that Church and striueth to goe forward in all kind of vertue may not only be saued but ariue also to that degree of holines perfection as to become a blessed soule on earth and there aboue to be crowned a thrice happy most glorious Saint in heauen Out of which we may inferre that whosoeuer are members of this Church in the which only sanctity and saluation is to be had as our Aduersaries themselues confesse ●ught to auoyde most carefully all such wicked and diabolicall suggestions as the enemy of man by what Minister soeuer may put into their heads to ioyne themselues to any other congregation especially seing according to M. Caluin out of her lappe to wit Caluin l. 4. instit c. 2. n. 4. the visible Church no remissiō of sins or saluation at all is to be hoped for the Lord doth mak so great accoūt of the cōmunion of his Church Caluin n. 10. For Germany D Field sayth that Luther the rest of his Religion were baptized receaued their Christianity ordination and power of ministery in that Church to wit of Rome as the true v●sible and appa●ā● Church of Christ D. Field pag. 71. D. Couell in defence of Hooker p 7● For France Caluin l. 4 instit §. 2. l. 4. VVe saith he haue departed from their Romish Church For England the Apologer pag 188. con●esseth no lesse saying we haue indeed gone from the Pope we haue sh●ken of the yoake of the Bishop of Rome as he shal be held a trayterous turne-coate saith M. Caluin and a forsaker of his Religion whosoeuer disobediently alienates himself from that Christian Society Whence it followeth that a departing frō the Church is a denying of God Christ therfore so much the more must we beware of such kind of separation or breach of fayth Seing neyther can there be a more heynous crime imagined then with sacrilegious disloialty to violate that wedlocke which the only begotten Sonne of God hath contracted with vs. So far M. Caluin Pardon vs therfore good M. Parson if we willingly and constantly remayne where we are without being any thing moued with your trifles toyes confuted elsewhere to change our fayth profession which we haue been taught alwayes in the true Catholike Church And if you haue any care of the chiefest good of your soules saluation make hast to repayre to vs with your miserable seduced flocke or otherwise reflect seriously vpon this terrible sentence of S. Fulgentius who sayth Belieue assuredly and doubt nothing that euery Heretike or Schismaticke christened in the name of the Father and of the Sonne of the Holy Ghost if he not within the number of those which are of the Catholike Church what Almes soeuer he hath made albeit he shall shed his bloud for the name Christ can by no meanes be saued For neyther Baptisme nor large and charitable Almes nor death it selfe suffered for Christs sake will auayle S. Fulgent lib. de fide ad Petrum that man who doth not hold the vnity of the Catholike Church as long as his Hereticall or Schismaticall wickednes which leadeth to perdition shall continue in him A Note of fifty Kings Queenes of Great Britany accounted Saints their Memories celebrated for such by our Catholike Forefathers and this by the testimony of Protestants themselues S. Lucius King of Britany Martyr He liued about Nauclerus gen 6. Petr. de Natal l. 1. c. ●4 the yeare of Chris● 192. Stow Holinshed in Chron. Cambden in Brit. S. Clintācus King of Brecknocke in Wales Martyr Capgrau in catal Capgrau in catal About anno 300. Cambd. in Brit. S. Wistan King in Wales and Martyr About anno 400. Cambd. in Brit. S. Ethelbert King of Kent Confessour About anno 615. Stow Holinsh.