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A12800 Cassander Anglicanus shewing the necessity of conformitie to the prescribed ceremonies of our church, in case of depriuation. By Iohn Sprint, minister of Thornbury in Glocester-shire, sometimes of Christ-Church in Oxon. Sprint, John, d. 1623. 1618 (1618) STC 23108; ESTC S117795 199,939 306

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