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A93094 The famers fam'd or An answer, to two seditious pamphlets, the one intituled The just man in bonds, the other A pearle in a dunghill, written in the behalfe of that notorious lyar, and libeller John Lilburne. Also a full reply, with a confutation of certaine objections devised by the trayterous author of a seditious and unparraled [sic] libell, intituled A remonstrance of many thousand citizens, and other free borne people of England, to their owne House of Commons, &c. Wherein the wickednesse of the authors, and their abettors, the destructive courses of the sectaries, and their adherors is amply discovered. So that all (not wilfully blind) may cleerely see, that they are men stirred up by mans enemie, the Devill, as to ruine themselves, so this poore nation, that yet lies bedrid of her wounds lately received. And ought to be avoided as serpents, to be contemned as abjects, and to be delivered over to Satan, as blasphemers and reprobates. / Written by S. Shepheard. Sheppard, S. (Samuel) 1646 (1646) Wing S3163; Thomason E349_5; ESTC R201022 25,285 34

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Archshop of Canterbury both where Lilburne and his Libels were who immediately dispatched a Pursevant with plenary authority who attached Lilburne and seised on his Bookes which were all consumed with fire So much for the cause of his suffering Thirdly for the quality of the paine suffered it was no lesse then pillorying whipping gagging and to say truth most wicked abusing of his person Here I beseech the Reader to take notice that not onely this Pamphleter Lilburnes vindicator but himselfe also in all his seditious Pamphlets maketh it an argument infallible because of his cruell handling by the Bishops to prove his extraordinary zeale to God and his Countrey when it was his affection to attaine riches and the desire of gaine that brought those calamities upon him for had he sate at home and not transported himselfe beyond the Seas to have printed that L●ttany or if being there he had stayed or else if comming over had left behind him those instruments of his destruction Dr Bastwicks Bookes he had not now been reputed so famous a sufferer for God and his Countrey but had remained as he still is in the account of all wise and truely religious men a * MECHANICK FACTIOUS SLANDEROUS LYING LIBELLER ●LBURNS ARACTER His Defender goes on And now if you will begin to think how a * man so faithfull in all his waies should be so liable to trouble as he hath been for he hath been divers Woe unto ●e saith P●●phet ●● call bl●ck ●ite wh●●e 〈◊〉 times in Pur●ev●nts hands and so committed by Committees if you shall consider how this Pearle comes to be cast upon this Dunghill you will finde the faithfulnesse of his heart towards God and all good people the ☞ freenesse of his tongue against all kind of injustice or unworthynesse in whom soever is the onely cause and no other The lying Pamphleter having before told you that the sufferings of Lilburne in the Prelates daies was onely for God and his Countrey which egregious and monstrous lie I have already canvasd now he proposeth a Riddle and asketh how it should come to passe that a man so faithfull in all his waies c. I answer giving my judgement what might be the reason thereof perhaps one reason might be for that he the said Lilburne wrote and divulged a seandalous Pamphlet intituled An answer to NINE ARGVMENTS wherein he intolerably railes against our Church Ministers Worship Government reporting them to be Antichristian and Diabolicall or perhaps it might be for his seditious and base Libell entituled MARTINS ECCHO or for his malicious and trayterous Libell entituled ENGLANDS BIRTHRIGHT with many other seditious and scandalous Libels for which he ought though his punishment were then mitigated to have suffered condign punishment and that after a severe manner by Statutes at Westminster first made 3 Edward 1. c. 33. 2 R. 2. c. 5. 12 c. and Eliz. c. 7. it is enacted and streighly defended upon grievous paine That from henceforth none shall be so hardy to contrive speake or set forth any false newes lies or tales of Prelates Earles Dukes Barons Nobles or great men of the Realme whereby debates discords or slanders may arise between the King and His People and the Lords Nobles and Commons whereof great perill and mischiefe might come to all the Realme and quicke destruction if remedie were not provided and he that shall offend herein shall bee kept in prison untill he hath brought him forth in Court that first did speake and report the same and if he cannot bring him forth then He shall be grievously punished according to the nature of the Offence by the Councell and all Justices of the Peace throughout every Shire City and Towne Corporate are enabled to heare examine and determine the said causes and enjoyned to put these Lawes in the due execution that from henceforth condigne punishment be not deserred from such Offenders But now the Pamphleter explaineth his Riddle himselfe and saith you finde the cause of his trouble to be the faithfulnesse of his heart ô Sir you injure him greatly to charge him with that * The cause o● Lilburns troubles whereof he is not the least conscious but contrary the basenesse and treachery of his heart against God and his Rulers BLASPHEMING the one and CALUMNIATING the other the freenesse of his tongue according to your owne phrase in reviling his Lord the KING of whom he ought not to thinke an evill thought is the cause that brought his former and present calamities upon him and maketh his name become odible to all vertuous but let us traverse the Pamphleter And if you seriously weigh things you will confesse that it would grieve any good mans heart that Treachery Cowardise Cruelty Plundering and Covetousnesse have been very slenderly punished and faithfulnesse so many wayes discouraged and that it is a very sad thing in a time so zealously pretending REFORMATION that any quiet people should be punished and reproached for worshipping and serving God * A Dom●sti●● Phrase according to their Conscience and that TROUBLE-HOUSE CONFORMITIE as much cryed up as in the Bishops times All wise men will seriously weigh and consider things as they are and as they may be caryed that men in Authority may rule over the bodies of men but not over their minds and therefore not able to prevent Treacherie Cowardise or Cruelty the committers whereof often escape unpunisht contrary to their will which if so neglected ought not to be charged on them againe that it is not alwayes seasonable to punish crimes though never so heynous and that is when the offenders are * For so the cure may prove worse then the Di●●ease potent able to withstand and perhaps Their Arme of Flesh considered over-power their Judges but it is evident to all the world that since the si●ting of this PARLIAMENT they have not been p●rtial in the least regard witnesse the two * The Father and the Sonne ●ho both lost their heads on ●ower Hill for betraying the ●ust was repoed in them HOTHAMS never was faithfulnesse better rewarded then by them who have on the meanest subject bestowed honou●s if found faithful and have rewarded each Officer fighting for them according to his Degree and this is no sad thing in a time of Reformation but a glorious Animation to the Just nor are the quiet people punished or reproached for serving God those Disturbers of Sions Peace the Sectaries are only opposed their errors being opposite to God destructive to the Peace of the Kingdome who if they should be suffered would be an occasion of the inevitable Ruine and Destruction of this Nation for as long as there were divers Sects there would be Division and a Kingdome divided cannot stand God himselfe hath pronounced it and that without which God cannot be zealously served nor the Common-wealth possibly preserved in peace and tranquillity which you contemptuously and wickedly call ‖ The Author
for then we might expect a totall destruction therfore it is enough and one too many that your selfe according as you seeme to feare commit such vile crimes whereby you are made capable of imprisonment and whereas you as it were in scorn say if the Lords please know Sir it is the pleasure of God the King of Kings and Lord of Lords that such Achans as you and your brother Lilburne should be brought to condigne punishment and therefore if the Lords should neglect so necessary a duty as is the punishing of such wretches they would be guilty of heynous sin before God and be the occasioners of their own contempt by men but see he taketh in hand by way of insinuation to cause the people to thinke themselves vassaliz'd because Justice is executed and exhorteth them to resolve to be slaved or to take some speedy course to free themselves the malevolent and wicked spirit of the Author under pretence of enlightning the eyes of the subject would put them out clean for except the Lords stick to the Commons and the Commons to the Lords there wil never be peace or joy in England but I make no doubt but the subjects of this Kingdome respect more the glory of God and their owne welfare then to give eare to this wicked incendiary The Pamphleter proceedes The power of the Lords is * A profe simile like a shallow uneven water more in noise then substance if we could distinguish between what is theirs of right and what by encroachment we should finde that they have decked themselves with the Commoners Fe●thers which being reassumed they would appeare no better arrayed then other men even equall by Law inferiour in uprightnesse and honesty of conversation See here the ignorance of the Pamphleter the power of the Lords saith he is like 〈◊〉 and uneven Water whereas the power of the Lords may be rather resembled to a deepe Sea whose force out that themselves graciously limit it were able to sinke and overwhelme the libeller Lilburne and this lying Pamphleter with their complices even to Abysse they being in the nature of a body Aristocraticall and indeed the strongest prop the people have But to proceed if faith he we could distinguish I but it being beyond your reach you shew great simplicity to meddle with those things you know not and it appeares you cannot distinguish by the ensuing words we should finde that they b●ue decked themselves with the Com●oners feathers very pretty doth the King receive his Honour from the Subject or the Subject from Him surely all Honours flow from Him the most Honoured and He advanceth and setteth up and as he by God Reignes so they by Him Rule therefore you ignorantly erre in saying That they are decked with borrowed Feathers Againe whereas you say that if every Bird had one feather they would appeare no better arrayed then other men I answer that who so goeth about to unplume them and instead of Reverence doth use Violence sinneth against his owne soule by disobeying the Commandement of God by the mouth of Paul who writing to certain overseers of the Church chargeth them to put the people in mind to OBEY RULERS nor would they be equall with the Commons were they stripped of all for there is an innate heroiek nature residing in all descending of Noble blood so that they affect nothing but that which is Noble and high and for that you basely alledge They would be inferiour in honesty and uprightnesse of conversation it is a grosse and manifest lie the whole Kingdome may judge how faithfully valiantly and piously they have borne themselves in going in and out before the people since this war and by the past we may judge of the future But see more insolencies We should finde that they are but P●inted properties Dagons that our superstition and ignorance have erected no naturall Issues of the Lawes the ex●ube●ences and Mushromes of Prerogative the We●s of just G●vernment putting the body of the people to paine as well as occasioning deformity sonnes of conquest they are and usurpation not of choice and election intruded upon us by power not constituted by consent c. The power of the Lords as aforesaid is essentiall as deriving their power from him who hath it from God and though it be very true that the Commons have in them Ignorance and Superstition enough yet their wisdome or true beliefe could never have erected * The first i● stituted Lord them by reason that many headed Beast the Commons seldome abide constant in one Faith and retaine for the generall little or no wisedome save sufficient perhaps to buy and sell and get gaine The Lords are constituted and ordained by the Lawes of our Land which hath forever been guided by King Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled They are so farre from being the wens of just government or putting the people to paine that they are the soveraigne Balm and preserving Antodote thereof example the Earle of Essex one of those famous Peeres whom you maligne who first sounded the depth of a dangerous Sea and gave notice of those whirlpooles which else perhaps might have swallowed his successor now a triumphant conquerour they are not occasion of the least deformity but rather of lustre and glory to the Common-wealth appearing like so many Ioshuahs with their Swords drawn ready to lead the people forth against Gods enemies or to govern them at home in peace and happinesse They are not usurpers for they claim not in the least respect any of the peoples right but what they have they enjoy as being the sonnes of their glorious Fathers who merited more honour then was heaped on them it being but a Recompence in some nieasure for the good that through their means as Gods instruments the people enjoyed nor accepted they their honour at first without consent of the people for that which is not gainsaid is assented to Lay to heart I beseech you O you House of Commons that neither your selves nor children can plead any immunity or security from this oruelty of the House of Lords if now you be slack or negligent but that you may justly expect and feel the smart thereof upon you and your prosperity as well as we upon us and ours at least after you are dissolved and dis●sissed from your Authorities is not this one of the main points for which ●● have put your selves and us and so many of this Nation as stand for your defence to the effusion of so much blood and multitude of estates Behold the libellers Master-piece here he goeth about to raise discord betwixt the Lords and Commons perswading them because * they have justify punished a seditious and infamous person ●he Lords according to their duties and the Lawes of the Kingdome that therefore the Lords intrench on the liberties of the Commons and intend to bring the subjects of this Kingdome into bondage the SECTARIES and their Abettors are so enraged
A Fooles Bolt is soone shot And what other have the Lords ever been then a Clog to the House of Commons in all their Proceedings How many necessary things have they obstructed how many evill things promoted what devices have they had of Prudentialls and expedients to delay and pervert what is good and subtle Policies to introduce things evill It hath ever been the custome of Libellers and calumniators when they groundlesly slander to cite things by the whole not bringing proof of any one thing so here the lying Pamphleter taxeth the Lords nameth not when where or how they deserved the reason you may ghesse he cannot indeed envy itself cannot challenge the honour'd Lords of the least corruption I meane in the way of hindring any one Act for the good of the Subject nay rather have they not ere since the time of their fitting and passing through this fiery Furnace as I may so say of their opposing the Royall party been the Agents to procure many Orders for the good of the Subject can any say that they have held back or refused to subscribe to any one paper tending to the good of the Subject and for their introducing of evill which the Railing Pamphleter taxeth them of the meanest capacity may perceive and all Loyall subjects will hisse at so impudent a Lie Now you must know the Pamphleter in his own conceit having sufficiently vindicated Lilburne he flyeth high and hyperbolically saith Thou dost well ô England to give up thy first borne Lilburne the son of thy strength and high Resolution for Freedome If thou intendest to become a Bondslave to either King Lords or any others for hee will never submit either body or minde to any kinde of slavery Lilburne in prison hinc Dolor hinc Lachrymae and therefore to incite the Commons if it might be to rise against his Judges he maketh them interessed in his cause Alas Sir this wil not do the dearly beloved inimitable unparallel'd Libeller must have the reward of his merits While England will sit still and see not the Sonne of her Strength but the Son of her Shame and Sorrow brought to condigne punishment nor doth she feare that thereby Her bond●ge wil be aggravated knowing that such are the Bands that tie her hands feet not suffering her to atchieve that which would prove to her everlasting Benefit and honour and she knoweth right-well that he that hath already submitted himselfe and is become a Bond-slave to the devill to put in Act what ever hee shall whisper to him cannot be the Agent to procure her Infranchisement Liberty she fits and beholds with joy the unequall'd proceedings of her two Houses of Parliament and having the spirit of discerning lamenteth the errors heresies blasphemies of the time taking into consideration those * A lively description of these times verses of the Poet that Now for truths matters there is much adoe Some this some that some none of both wll have And yet they ali doe restlesse Fortune woe To yeeld to neither yet doe either crave In worlds behalfe or Fleshes fixt thereto They all in shew doe seek the truth to save And all seem to sollicite Sions cause Which they would have confirmed by the Lawes Some say they lye that onely truth doe teach Some envy them that live by teaching so And at their lives and livings seem to reach Which they forgive but will not so forgoe Some tongues defend the Truth which they doepreach Whose Actions give her many a bitter blow Some live as Dying while they seek to live And some Dye living yet doe most relieve Some * Independent Lyers doe call carnall liberty The glorious liberty of Truths deare Sonnes And her they urge to prove that verity But Truth 's betray'd by such untrusty ones That Sacriledge doe guild with sanctity Yet for that look for high promotions O' t is a world of mischiefe when pretence Doth shroud a world of Inconvenience But whereas the Pamphleter saith that Lilburn will never submit either body or mind to slavery he insinuateth that some are slav'd O the incorrigiblenesse of some if they may not do what say what attempt what they list they cry out they are vassaliz'd and trod on Magna Charta is slighted the liberty of the Subject infring'd But sure the time will come that these men that doe and say what they list and should not shall be forced to undergoe what they ought and would not and now the Pamphleter having railed sufficiently on the Lords whose innocency is above his calumnies hee insinuateth with the Commons promising himselfe that which were a wonder to see But certainly those Worthies in the House of Commons that consider what the people have done and suffered for their liberties will never suffer so foule a deed it cannot be but they intend the uttermost * Just freedom is so farre as is consistent with the fundamentall Lawes of this Kingdom which prohibiteth toleration of crimes under pretence of libertie of just Freedome to the people and love those best that most know and affect true Liberty and are greatest opposers of exorbitant power in whomsoever and consequently cannot but instantly deliver all just men and henceforth reduce the Lords Condition suitable to the Freedome of the People To fill up his measure of evill hee concludeth his Pamphlet with confidence that the House of Commons will intrench upon the Priviledge of the Lords and deliver him whom they have caged but Sir your hopes deceive you for the Honourable House of Commons will not but maintaine as they ought the Priviledge of the House of Peers even as they have hitherto both Houses having mutually and unanimously proceeded without the least perturbation For should those happy workmen disagree that glorious and solid Fabrick which with so much cost and paine hath been erected would not only be left unfinished but also would be in danger to be utterly demolished But the Highest divert so great a mischiefe and let not ô Lord our many and crying sins pull downe so heavy and fatall a judgment The P●idiculous Pamphleter proceedeth in his madness and holdeth it convenient the Lords should be reduced but his combustible matter I have so moistned that it shall never be able to take fire The mouth of the just shall be fruitfull in Wisedome but the tongue of the froward shall be cut out Prov. chap. 10. An answer to a Libell INTITULED A Remonstrance of many thousand Citizens and other free-borne people of England to their own House of Commons THis REMONST●ANCE was not penned by L●●burn but whoever he be that penned the same * his † Lilburne spirit was doubled upon him and it may fitly bee termed the master piece of wickednesse and the very quintessence of basenesse the contents whereof is able to infect the unsetled and to cause the plague of Dissention to reigne as hot as ever before but I shall make known a soveraign Antidote
with His Parliament of setling a firme wel-grounded Peace Is it fit that any should speak lightly or Revile our Lord whose after-Reigne we hope will prove more glorious then H is former Why should we Doubt the Evill being taken away but H is Throne shall be established in Peace Why should not the Ministers of God Nay have they not ample Reason therefore as they prayed once for H is Conversion now to give thanks for H is being Converted And though God its true be no Respecter of Persons in Judgement it followeth not that we should imitate our Maker in that for he commandeth by his Apostle saying FEARE GOD HONOUR THE KING And have yee shooke this Kingdome like an Earth-quake to produce no more then this for us Is it for this that yee have made so free use and beene bold with our Estates And doe you because of our Readinesse to comply with you in All Things esteeme us so sottish as to be contented with such unworthy Returnes of our trust and love No it 's high time to be plaine with you We ARE not SHALL not be so contented We doe expect in the first place that you should Declare and set forth KING CHARLES His wickednesse openly before the world and withall to shew the Intollerable inconvenience of Kingly Government from the constant evill Practises of those of this Nation and to Declare KING CHARLES an enemy and to publish your Resolution never to have any more but to Acquit us of so great a Charge and trouble for ever to convert the great Revenues of the Crown to the publike treasure to make good the injuries and injustices done hereofore and of late by those that have possessed the same and till this he done we shall not think our selves well Dealt withall in this originall of all oppressions to wit KINGS That this Nation hath of late beene sorely shaken it is most true and had not Gods mercy surpassed Englands Deserts it had beene shaken to pieces but this ungratefull Libeller Asketh And is it for this for what your fore-fathers would have sacrificed Their Lives with Joy Had they but hoped Their Posteritie after Them should have gained those rare Immunities and Freedomes which your selves now doe and are like to Injoy the Government by Prelates Abolisht the High-Commission Star-Chamber all Courts grinding the Faces of the poore supprest the Feares of a Combination with Forraigne States taken away by the Disposing of the Mil●tia into trustie hands such as the Commons shall conside in with many other Remarkable priviledges and are yee so unthankfull yet to say IS IT FOR THIS And whereas you menacing Boast That you ARE not nor SHALL not be so contented your Estate is to be Deplored that you are so voyd of grace and Reason than the Sword hath yet a hope to be handled by you and is it not sufficient for you to Ruine your selves but you must also seek the Destruction of the whole Nation For you propose that King CHARLES should be Proclaimed an Enemy could we acquit our selves of our Oaths and the Fidelitie we owe to our Soveraigne yet policy would per swade us to work more Discreetly and not involve in a new warre a Nation almost Dispoyled for wee must know that the Princes of the Royall blood will not sit still and see Themselves Robbed of their Birth-right neither commeth I am sure so vile a thought into the heart of any Member of Parliament whose frequent expressions have beene and still are in all meeknesse and Humilitie to desire the King the spirit of Disaffection abandoned to Returne to His Charge and by Their meanes God assisting become a greater a more glorious and Potent Prince then before all wish I hope to see effected to the rejoycing of all Verru●us and to the shame and consounding of countenance of all Malevolent wicked Sectaries that King and Subjects may Rejoyce in each other the one seeking nothing but the others welfare and all that All Feares and Jealousies layd aside the Subjects of this Kingdomes each man following the workes of his calling submitting themselves as they are desired by S. Paul and that for the Lords sake not denying to yeeld Caeser his lawfull tribute following the example of their Saviour knowing The more he hath the better he shall be enabled to withstand his and their enemies To this purpose one of our moderne Poets saith excellently For thine and mine and mine and thine are things Not for to be ' twixt Subjects and their Kings Princes like the Sun should from the earth exhale The wealth they raise therein and let it fall In every place as they have cause a share And not consume it like the wanton Heyre Their full Exchequers must like Conduits be Open to all to rich and poore like free And Subjects should like Fields be full of Springs And naturally should fall towards their Kings The Common wealth should alwayes be in motion Seas fall to Brookes and Brookes should to the Ocean Such Royall and such Loyall community Keep King and Subjects still in unity And whereas you desire the House of Commons to publish their Resolution never to have Kings more what spirits of Debate filleth your breasts and with what suries are you inraged that you dare be so bold to propose a matter of high concernment which if but for civill respects as aforesaid ought not to be hearkned to your peremptorinesse ought to be punished severely that instigated by Satan goe about to disturbe now our almost setled people who desire to live in subjection to God and their King as they are bound by Oath and Convenant and till your rebellious and destructive desires are accomplisht you threaten that you shall not bee contented why then remaine in your obstinacie untill the rode that you have gathered lash you severely while yee shall be reputed of all wise and loyall men a sort of Traytors Blasphemers and cursed persons But yee have listned to any counsels rather then to the voyce of us that trusted you why is it that yee have stopt the Presse but that yee would have nothing but pleasing and ●lattering Discourses and goe on to make your selves partakers of the Lordship over us without hearing any thing to the contrary The Pamphlet swelleth more and more with * Alluding the place where the Prophet David speaking of the wick● sayings of h● enemies sai●● The porson of Aspes is und● their ups poyson and here it bursteeth forth able to infect the ayre have the House of Commons hearkned to any counsels but what given amongst themselves the effect and issue of their counsells and consulations wee see and ought to rejoyce at but O here 's the cut that divideth the very hearts of the Sectaries the Presse is stopt they cannot print Pamphlets the contents whereof is more full of lyes then a Dogge of ●leas they cannot blaspheme God and revile their Soveraigne in Print as they would and because the