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A10173 Protestants demonstrations, for Catholiks recusance All taken from such English Protestant bishops, doctors, ministers, parlaments, lawes, decrees, and proceedings, as haue beene printed, published, or allowed among them in England; since the cominge of our king Iames into this kingdome: and for the most parte within the first six or seuen yeares thereof. And euidentlie prouinge by their owne writings, that english Catholiks may not vnder damnable syn, co[m]municate with English Protestants, in their seruice, sermons, or matters of religion: and soe conuincinge by the[m]selues, their religio[n] to be most damnable, & among other things, their ministery to bee voide, false & vsurped. Broughton, Richard, attributed name. 1615 (1615) STC 20450; ESTC S112509 81,861 158

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greate prosperi●y seuen and thirtie yeares and odd monethe● professing voluntary pouertie Went to Rome where in the habit of a Religeous man hee ended his life in poore estate And Ethelburga his wife became a vayled Nunne was made Abb●sse of Barkinge neare london wherein shee ended her life The Brethren of Ina● were kenten whose sonne was Aldome Abbat of Malmesbury and Bishop of Sherborne And if wee desire Example from the the Norman Race Kinge William the first by by some syrnamed Conqueror may bee added both to encouradge vs to continue in the Religion of the church of Rome and to bee fearefull either to persecute or forsake yt of him his affaires this Theater entreateth thus His holy father Pope Alexander tke seconde sett in a Theater sup pag 418. n. 19. foote sending twoe Cardinalls and a Bishop from the See Apostolick in a Councell degraded stigand Archbishop of Canterbury EgelWine Bishop of the easte Angles besides diuers other Bishops and Abbots of the english nation depriued for noo euident cause but onely to giue place to the Normans in fauour of the kinge Kinge William gaue his oathe vppon the holy Euangelists and the relicks pag. 421. of S. Alban● the Martyr Pope Gregoire sendeth hither his bulls against the mari●d cleargie Pope Gregorie in all generall Synode excluded the maryed preists from execution of their holy offices and pag. 422. forbad they lay men to hear● their Masses our Lords body and the blood of our Lord consecrated by preists To shewe how iustly and seuerely God punished the hinderance of Masse● and profession of that Religion speaking of the destroying of Religeous howses and churches hee writeth thus Kinge William pulleth downe pag. 421. 36. mother churches from mans vse and Gods seruice in Hamt●hire novv new forest Richard hi● second sonne there dyed goared vvith a deare or blasted vvith a pestilent ayre and Rusus his other 〈◊〉 46. sonne mistaken for a deare shott through vvith an Arrovve by vvalter Tyr●ll Henry likevvise his grandchilde by Robert Curtoise persuing the chase vvas struken vvith a bough in the Iavves and as Absalon le●t hanging vntill hee died t●es punishments vvith a straunge earth quake and other straunge hinges ascribed for taking away vse of Gods seruice And speaking of his greate repentance and vertuous end hee writeth thus Hee pag. 425. n. 65. 66. 64. builded many religeous howses moste certayne it is that in the verie same place Where kinge Harolds standard was pitched and vnder which himselfe was slayne there William the Conqueror laid that foundation Battle Abb●y d●dicating yt to the Holy Trinitie and to S. Martine that there the monkes might pray for the soules of Harold and pag. 423. the rest that were slayne in that place hee repenteth him of his crueltie in England doth not a●count yt his owne but Gods Hee giueth his Crowne and ornaments therto belonging to the monkes pag. 422. 423. of Saint Stephen in Cane Hee giueth to his sonne Henry Beaucler●ke onely 5000. prounde without any contry proph●syinge how hee should bee heire to all Th● dying kinge for kinge must dye hauinge pag. 424. nu 56. pag. 223. raised vp his weake body vppon the pillo●es hard the sounde of the greate Bell in the metropolitane church of Saint G●●uis neare Roan demaundinge the cause one replyed that it did then ring● prim● to our ladi● ●herevpon with greate deuotion lifting his eyes towards heauen spreadinge abroade his handes I commend myselfe saith hee to that blessed ladie Mary Mother of God that shee by her holy prayers may reconcile mee to her most deare owne our Lord Iesus Christ and with thes wordes yeelded vp the Ghost Their protestant Archbisop Parker is lately with applaose new printed and speaking of the Romane Religion and authoritie abrogated by the new lawes of kinge Henry the 8. writeth thus Parker Antiq. Britan p 329. His legibus by thes lawes the power of the Pope that had continued in England aboue 900. yeares hee meaneth from the tyme of our Conuersion by S. Augustine sent hether by Pope and Saint Gregory was ouerthrown● And M. Mason Masō booke of Consecr in M. Park with his directing protestant Bishops assure vs that this Matthew Parker was allowed for Archbishop of Canterbury by other order then any his predecessors in the See of Canterbury Therefore wee may not forsake the Religion of Rome soe embraced and honored by all Christian kinges princes Bishops and true beleeuing subiects vntill this time of protestants by their owne testimonies Againe I argue in this maner Noe Religion that is soe farr from truthe and to bee iustifiable for good and holy that the cheifest professors and doctors thereof acknowledge generally that it is false erroneous or fallible may bee communicated withall But the English parlament protestant Religion is such Therefore not to bee communicated with The maior proposition is euidently true for as thes protestants haue taught vs before noe communion is to bee had in spirituall things with men of a false and deceatefull Religion for such by noe possibilitie can bee the infallible and most vndoubted word reuelation of God which by noe power can either bee false or doubtfull But the phantasticall deuise Imagination and humane hereticall Inuention of seducers The minor proposition is soe generally graunted by the protestants of England That D. Morton Morton Apolog part 2. pag. 315. with publicke pri●iledge absolutely for them all writeth thus Thesis generalis nullus est omnino in ecclesia cuius Iudicium est infallibilis authoritatis Yt is a generall maxime And so to bee receaued of them all That there is non at all in the church whose iudgment is of vnfallible a●thoritie D. Willet giueth this testimonie In England will Antilog praef angl pa. 71. 120. 150 43. Praefat. to the Reader supr the temporall prince is Gouernor Ruler cheefe Ouerseer and Steward of the church to whose Iudgment and redresse the reformation of Religion belongeth Yet thee addeth thus neither hee nor any in their church haue any priuiledge from error And this is soe manifest by the often chaungings and choppings of their Religion by kinge Henry 8. kinge Edward 6. and Queene Elizabeth that to goe noe further their errors and contradictions defended and published by their owne statutes are shamefull to bee recited and soe euidently knowne that their protestant Bishop of Peterborough Doue persuasion with others doe freely acknowledge yt that all protestant princes with their church had erred and seduced others Or yf against all hope or possibilitie in S. Edwyne sands opinion wee Relation of Religion might expect a generall councell by their doctrine which not onely hee but all protestants confining spirituall iurisdiction to call councells onely to the temporall and ciuill authoritie of particul●r princes and contryes wherein they rule and noe farther much lesse ouer all nations Christian as the Pope claymeth yett to
Parkers Registe● Soe that if any cred●●t is to bee g●uen to these men they had seene three different Registers of this matter and all of them false not onely for that which is proued before but because M. Mason Mason sup ventureth his owne their Register and pretended Bishops creditt vppon an imagined consecration in the moneth of Dec●mber in the second Stow ●istor An. 1 Elizab Hollin Speed supr yeare of Queene Elizabeth when by the testimonie of their protestant historiās Stowe Holinshed and Speed they were allowed for Bishops by Queene Elizabeth many monethes before and practised those places in the first yeare of her Raigne And for his pretended Masō Speed Hollinsh supr Bishop and Consecrator Miles Couerdale yt is euident by Mason himselfe Speed and Holinshed that hee neuer was allowed in Queene Elizabeth her time to haue a B●shopricke or bee a Bishop such is their euidence alsoe of their pretended Suffragan or Suffraganes Therefore if they were not B●shops they could not bee consecra●inge Bis●ops to giue that which they had not neither were allowed to haue by those protestants Againe M. Mason telleth vs that the Queenes Commission vnto thes pretended Consecrators and other warrant they had not was to make them Bishops secundum formam statutorum in ea parte prouisorum accordinge to the forme of the statutes prouided in that behalfe And yett the statute Stat. Henr. 8. of Bish. Stat. 1. Eliz of kinge Henry the eight and Queene Elizabeth co●demneth the making of an Archbishop except by an Archbishop and two other Bishops or sower Bishops And yett by thes men neither of thes was obserued in this pretended consecrat●on further by the same princes lawes their Stat. H●●● 8. of 〈◊〉 ag Stat. ● Eliz ●m●gin●d Suffraganes had noe power in such thin●s neither any at all out of their Bishops iuri●dictions and without their allowance both wanting in this case when there were noe Bi●●ops of those places to haue iurisdiction o● giue allowance Soe now by thes men themselues the onely difficultie remayneth of Barlowe made B●shop as M. Mason saith in time of kinge Henry 8. S●ory by kinge Edward 6 and his new inuention But for Barlowe wee ar● directly told by D. Suttcliffe that neither Sutcliff ag kell pag 4. h●e nor any of such creation is a true and lawfull Bishop for M Scory and all of his stampe or making in the dayes of kinge Edward 6. Queene Elizabeth or kinge Iames from them not onely M. Foxe But M. Mason alsoe is wittnes Foxe tom 2 ●●g 10●4 Mason li 2. pag. 92. that t●ey were not reputed for true Bishops as appeareth by thes their wordes the wordes of D. Brooke Bi●hop of Glocester the Popes delegate to Ridley at ●is degradation Wee must aga●nst our willes proceed according to our Commission to disgradinge taking from you the dignitie of preisthood for wee take you for noe Bishop And soe they thought of the rest And this was not onely the opinion of diuines and catholicks but of protestants and cheefest law●ers and Iudges themselues euen in the time of Q. El●zabeth her selfe The opinion and Report of Sr. Robert Brooke cheife Iustice of the common Brooke Abrid 1576. titul leases §. 68. pleas then published are thes It is said that Bishops in the time of kinge Ed●ard 6 were not consecrated and therefore were not Bishops And therefore a lease for yeares made by such and confirmed by the deane and C●apter shall not binde the Successor for suc● ●ere neuer Bishops Therefore if this veritie of the in●alid●tie of those pretended B●shops was thus notoriously knowne and iudged by our common lawe and iudges thereof euen in ciuill affaires much more wee are to bee of that minde concerninge the spirituall and sacred function it selfe and in religeous duties not in the power of our lawes to limitt The same is proued in the Reports of Sr. Iames Dyer Lord cheife iustice of the same Court for whereas the statute Stat. An. 2. Eliz. cap. 1. of Queene Elizabeth concerninge her straunge supreamacie in matters of Religion gaue power to all Bishops to minister the same vnto all ecclesiasticall parsons within their dioces and iurisdiction Bishop Boner being depriued from the See of London by this highest archiepiscopall or papall power of that Queene and Horne a protestant by her substituted to be Bishop of Winchester he thinking himselfe sufficiently by her allowance to bee Bishop at leaste to that purpose offereth this new oathe to Bishop Boner lyuing a prisoner within Winchester iurisdiction The Bishop refusing the oathe was indicted vppon that statute to which indictment hee pleaded quod ipse non In nouel Cases collect per ●asques Dyer chris ●ustice ac ●●om banke termin Michael an 6. 7. Eliz. fol 234. ●st inde culpabilis that hee was not culpable because the said Bishop of Winchester was not a Bishop at the time of offering the oathe After this was c●r●fied into the kings bench and thus related by their cheife Iustice L. Dyer Edmond Bo●●r late Bishop o● lond●n was certified in the kings Bench by Doctor Horne Bishop of winchester for refusinge of the new oathe appointed for ecclesiasticall parsons by the statute in the first yeare of the now Queene in the first chapter offered and ministred to him in Southwarke in winchester ho●se there And concerning the former plea and Issue of Bishop Boner hee addeth thus And it was much debated by all the Iustices in the chamber of the ●orde Catlyne then cheife Iustice of England yf Boner might giue in Euidence vppon this Issue that is That h●e is not thereof culpable because the said Bishop of winchester was not a Bishop at the time of offeringe the oathe And yt was resolued by them all that if the truth and matter were such in deed yt should for that bee well receaued vppon that issue and the iury shall try yt Hitherto the wordes and sentence of all those protestant iudges Soe that as by the Censure of the Lorde Brooke and the iudges then the pretended Bishops of kinge Edwards time were clearly adiuged to bee noe B●shops Soe the same opinion now in the time of Queene Elizabeth by bothe the Cheife Iustices and all other Iudges is that the pretended Bishops of Q Elizabeth her appointinge were noe Bishops Otherwise they would not soe disgracefully to their new noe Bishops and Religion haue refused to proceed to triall of that matter and that Issue with Bishop Boner a disgraced Man and in case where they themselues were to giue Iudgment And to make this more euident in the next parlament in the eight yeare of that Queene by publicke decree Statut. An. 8. Elizab. cap. 1. or statute they absolutely free Bishop Boner and all others in his case from all penaltie and forfaicture for refusing that oathe tendered by such pretended Bishops And for noe other reason but that it was moste manifest in all true Iudgment that
the want of good workes is a knowledge and distinguishing signe belonginge to chaffe false disciples children of Sathan and vnbeleeuers to discerne them from the true beleeuers and seruants of God I argue thus Noe societie Congregation or companie of men which by their owne testimonies doe not onely want good workes but bee generally defiled with most heynous and greuous syns can bee the children of God true beleeuers or to bee communicated with in causes of Religion But the english protestants are in this condition Therefore not the true beleeuers true church or to bee communicated with in spirituall things The maior proposition is the common doctrine of all those protestant churches before remembred And the minor proposition of the impietie and wickednes of protestants is thus proued by their owne writings M. Hull speakinge of his fellowe protestants writeth thus These are the dayes whereof our Sauiour Hull Rom. polec pref●● Christ and his Apostles soe longe agoe prophesied wherein charitie should waxe colde and faith should searce appeare wherein men should bee ●●idebacks from Christ and Apostates from true Religion wherein they should bee louers of themselues couetous cursed speakers disobedient vntankefull vnholy true breakers false accusers despisers of them that are good traytors headie high minded louers of pleasures more them of God hauinge a shewe of Godlines but haue denyed the power thereof yea wherein men are become vsers newters temporisers Atheistes An other protestant writeth in these termes The protestans Cort. consid●rat An. 1605. epist d●dicat Religion of England is much like an euill herbe which if it bee not speedely rooted vpp but suffered to spreade will soone ouerspreade the gard●ns of God with vice and impietie as there will scarcely Willet Antilog pa 28 hath these words Wee iustely complayne of the prophanes of these times and of the ouerflowinge of iniquitie euen where Religion is moste puerly professed Then that Religion must needs bee Parkes Apolog epist dedicat impuer by their former doctrine M. Parkes alsoe speakinge of protestants speaketh in this maner euery man maketh Religion the handemaide of his affections We● are come to that declinge age of the worlde foretolde by the Apostle 2. Tim. 1. 2. 3. 4. wherein men should bee louers of themselues fastidious arrogant couetous maledicous immorigerous c. for euen such are these our times selfe loue hath banished sobrietie prid● humilitie malice charitie disobedience dutie dissention vnitie prophanesse sanctitie and in a 〈◊〉 sayned zeale true deuotion Concerninge the pretended ministers how far they are ouerwhelmed with wickednes is spoken befor To which I add these protestant testimonies M. Ormerod writeth thus The taunts and contumelies Ormer pict pur f. 3. l 4. of Ministers against Ministers are vnchristean they refuse to salute one an other but one spitteth in the face of an other wishinge the plaque of God to light vppon them saying they were damned Neither is this peculiar to english ministers for the protestant relator of religion writeth thus of forreyne ministers In the diuision Relation cap. 4● of protestants into their factions the ministers haue soe behaued themselues that it threatneth a greate ruyne and calamitie neither is there any greate doubt but if any stay and agreement could bee taken with the turke all Germanie wers in daunger to bee in vproare within it selfe by intestine dissention To this lamentable extremitie hath the headines of the mininisters brought it But of their moste wicked both doctrine and behauiour against princes and common wealthe I will entreate hereafter In the meane time it i● allreadie euident that this moste vile and prophane state of wickednes is not in some few as may bee fownde amonge men of true Religion not lyuinge accordinge to the rules thereof But generall and vniuersall which must needs proceede from the nature of their pretended Religion it selfe hauing in yt and publishinge to the worlde to all men to vewe and followe soe many errors tendinge and leadinge vnto all libertie and licentiousnes of life and neither hauinge sacraments or any instrument of grace to preuent synnes and their occasions in any callinge or state of men marryed o● vnmaryed olde or yonge cleargie or laitie lyuinge or dyinge nor any one rule to warrant vnto them for true faith any one article which they hold whether in yt selfe it bee true or false all which more absurdities of such nature are demonstratiuely befor proued against them by their owne writings The 11. particular protestant demonstration for Catholicks iust Recusancie is Because the English protestants by their owne writings are not onely enemies to the temporall princes claime of supreamacie in ecclesiasticall causes aduauncing their Bishops and presbyteries aboue yt but deny alsoe his suu●ranitie in matters temporall by their consequences NOw lett vs come to those Questions for which soe many Catholicks and Religeous parsons haue suffered Martyrdome and moste greuous persecutions in the times of kinge Henry 8. Queene Elizabeth and our present Soueraigne kinge Iames the claymed supreame spirituall power of temporall princes in cause ecclesiasticall in this kingedome and that power and Authoritie concerning temporall princes which these english protestants affirme Catholickes doe giue to the Pope of the highest apostolicke See of Rome proued before by these protestants to bee supreame heade gouernor an earthe of Christs churche and greatest commaunding iudge in spirituall causes I am to proue in this demonstration That these protestant Bishops puritanes and presbyterie by their owne testimonies giue not soe much power and authoritie to the tēporall prince as wee doe And yett arrogate challendge to themselues in their pretended Bishops and presbiterie more commaunde iurisdiction and authoritie ouer temporall kings and princes then Catholicke writers and scholes allowe or attribute to the Pope of Rome And that if the parlament had framed an oathe as much concerninge the power of their Bishops and presbiteries as their soe named Oathe of alleadgeance concerneth the Popes priuil●dges Noe protestant or puritane by the groundes of their Religion should coulde or might haue taken yt What they would or will doe in such a case I dare not vndertake for men soe conuicted before to bee by their owne testimonies most notorious dissemblers deceauers willfull seducers lyers periured and foresworne people in matters of Religion And this is made moste manifest that allthough they generally condemne their owne Religion for hereticall their seruice for damnable their ministery for Antichristian or none at all their supposed ordination for ridiculous The articles of their Religion for false and erroneous Their Canons and Censures to bee vngodly vnlawfull as is proued by themselues before and absolutely deny the kings supreamacie in most daūgerous degree as will be euidēt against them by their owne writings in this Chapter yett contrary to all ●ruthe Religion conscienc● and morall honestie they haue generally sworne protested subscribed vnto and doe practice to their owne damnation in these