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A40651 The appeal of iniured innocence, unto the religious learned and ingenuous reader in a controversie betwixt the animadvertor, Dr. Peter Heylyn, and the author, Thomas Fuller. Fuller, Thomas, 1608-1661. 1659 (1659) Wing F2410; ESTC R5599 346,355 306

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was made Knight of the Bath at the Coronation of King Iames Anno 1603. and afterwards created Lord Montague of Boughton in the nineteenth year of that King Anno 1621. which honourable Title is now enjoyed by his Son another Edward Anno 1658. And thirdly though I grant that Dr. Iames Montague Bishop of Winchester the second Brother of the four was of great power and favour in the time of King Iames. Thus far Dr. Heylin out of his Advertisements written in correction of Mr. Sandersons History of the Reign of King Iames. To rectifie this heap of Errors not to be paralleled in any Author pretending to the emendation of another I have here plainly set down the Male-pedegree of this Noble Numerous and successfull Family 1 Sir Edward Montague Lord Chief Justice in the Reign of King Henry the eighth 2 Sir Edward Montague a worthy Patriot in the Reign of Queen Elizabeth Sir Walter Montague Knight second Son died without Issue Sir Henry Montague third Son Earl of Manchester Lord Chief Justice Lord Treasurer c. Edw. Montague now Earl of Manchester besides other Sons 3 Sir Edward Montague made Knight of the Bath at the Coronation of King Iames never a Martialist and created by Him Baron Montague of Boughton dying in the beginning of the Civill Warres William Mountague Esq of the Middle-Temple second Son 4 Edward now Lord Montague of Boughton Ralfe Montague Esq second Son Edward Montague Esq eldest Son Christopher Montague third Son died before his Father being a most hopefull Gentleman Sir Charles Montague fourth Son who did good service in Ireland and left three Daughters and Co-heirs Iames Montague fifth Son Bishop of Winchester died unmarried Sir Sidney Montague sixth Son Master of the Requests Edward Montague now Admirall and one of the Lords of the Councel I presume the Animadvertor will allow me exact in this Family which hath reflected so fauourably upon me that I desire and indeed deserve to live no longer than whilest I acknowledg the same THE FOURTH BOOK From the first preaching of Wickliffe to the beginning of the Reign of King Henry the eighth Dr. Heylin OUR Author begins this Book with the Story of Wickliffe and continueth it in relating the successes of him and his followers to which he seems so much addicted as to Christen their Opinions by the name of the Gospel For speaking of such incouragements and helps as were given to Wickliffe by the Duke of Lancaster with other advantages which the conditions of those times did afford unto him he addeth That Fol. 129. We must attribute the main to Divine Providence blessing the Gospel A name too high to be bestowed upon the Fancies of a private man many of whose Opinions were so far from truth so contrary to peace and civil Order so inconsistent with the Government of the Church of Christ as make them utterly unworthy to be look'd on as a part of the Gospel Or if the Doctrines of Wickliffe must be call'd the Gospel what shall become of the Religion then establisht in the Realm of England and in most other parts of the Western World Were all but Wickliffes Followers relaps'd to Heathenism were they turn'd Jews or had imbrac'd the Law of Mahomet If none of these and that they still continued in the faith of Christ delivered to them in the Gospels of the four Evangelists and other Apostolicall Writers Wickliffes new Doctrines could not challenge the name of Gospel no● ought it to be given to him by the Pen of any But such is the humor of some men as to call every separation from the Church of Rome by the name of Gospel the greater the separation is the more pure the Gospel No name but that of Evangelici would content the Germans when they first separated from that Church and reformed their own And Harry Nichols when he separated from the German Churches and became the Father of Familists bestows the name of Evangelium Regni on his Dreams and Dotages Gospels of this kinde we have had and may have too many quot Capita t●t Fides as many Gospels in a manner as Sects and Sectaries if this world goe on Now as Wickliffes Doctrines are advanc'd to the name of Gospel so his Followers whatsoever they were must be called Gods servants the Bishops being said fol. 151. to be busie in persecuting Gods servants and for what crime soever they were brought to punishment it must be thought they suffered onely for the Gospel and the service of God A pregnant evidence whereof we have in the story of Sir Iohn Oldcastle accused in the time of King Harry the fifth for a design to kill the King and his Brethren actually in Arms against that King in the head of 20000 men attainted for the same in open Parliament and condemn'd to die and executed in St. Giles his Fields accordingly as both Sir Roger Acton his principal Counsellor and 37 of his Accomplices had been before For this we have not onely the Authority of our common Chronicles Walsingham Stow and many others but the Records of the Tower and Acts of Parliament as is confessed by our Author fol. 168. Yet coming out of Wickliffes Schools and the chief Scholar questionlesse which was train'd up in them he must be Registred for a Martyr in Fox his Calendar And though our Author dares not quit him as he sayes himself yet such is his tendernesse and respect to Wickliffes Gospel that he is loath to load his Memory with causlesse Crimes fol. 167. taxeth the Clergie of that time for their hatred to him discrediteth the relation of T. Walsingham and all later Authors who are affirm'd to follow him as the Flock their Belweather and finally leaves it as a special verdict to the last day of the Revelation of the righteous Iudgements of God Fuller First I fain would know whether the Animadvertor would be contented with the Condition of the Church of England as Wickliffe found it for Opinions and Practise and doth not earnestly desire a Reformation thereof I am charitably confident that He doth desire such an Emendation and therefore being both of us agreed in this Point of the convenience yea necessity thereof in the second place I would as fain be satisfied from the Animadvertor whether He conceived it possible that such Reformation could be advanced without Miracle all on a sodain so that many grosse Errors would not continue and some new one be superadded The man in the Gospel first saw men walking as trees before he saw perfectly Nature hath appointed the Twilight as a Bridge to passe us out of Night into Day Such false and wild opinions like the Scales which fell down from the Eyes of St. Paul when perfectly restored to his sight have either vanished or been banished out of all Protestant Confession Far be it from me to account the rest of England relapsed into Atheism or lapsed in Iudaism Turcism c. whom I behold as Erronious Christians
Rubrick indeed dyed with the blood of so many of both Nations slaine on that Occasion Our Author speakes this in Relation to the Scottish Tumults Anno 1637. In telling of which Story he runs as commonly elsewhere into many Errours For first those Miseries and that blood-shed was not caused by sending the Liturgy thither c. Fuller Seeing the Animadvertor denies the Liturgy to have had any Causall influence on the Scots War I must manifest my dissent from his Iudgement and here I crave the Reader 's leave to be his humble Remembrancer of the Kinds of Causes so far as they conduce to the clearing of the present Controversie Causes are twofold Solitary or Totall 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or Ioynt and fellow Causes 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 The latter againe is twofold Proegumena long leading before and inwardly disposing and inclining to Action or Procatarctica called also Causa irritatrix or Primitiva provocans which is outwardly impulsive to Action The former is tearmed by Physitians Causa Antecedens the latter Causa Evidens of a disease Thus in a Feaver corrupt humours bred within and without the Veines are the Antecedent cause thereof whilst being in the hot Sun walking in the South-wind c. stopping the Pores and stirring the ill Humours to heat may be the evident cause of a Feaver I thus apply it The inward discontents of the Scots on severall accounts which follow on the next Paragraph were the Antecedent causes of their War whilst the evident Cause thereof was the Obtruding the Liturgy upon them And so much for my cleare sense in this Controversie Dr. Heylyn The Plot had been laid long before upon other grounds that is to say Questioning of some Church Lands then in the hands of some great Persons of which they feared a Rovocation to the Crown And secondly the manumitting of some poor subjects from the tyranny and vassallage which they lived under in respect of their Tithes exacted with all cruelty and injustice by those whom they call the Lords of new erection Which Plot so laid there wanted nothing but some popular occasion for raising a Tumult first a Rebellion afterwards and this occasion they conceived they had happily gain'd by sending the new Liturgy thither though ordered by their own Clergy first as our Author tells us at the Assembly of Aberdeen Anno 1616. and after a● Perth Anno 1618. and fashioned for the most part by their own Bishops also But of this there hath so much been said between the Observator and his Antagonist that there is nothing necessary to be added to it Secondly there was no such matter as the passing of an Act of Revocation for the restoring of such Lands as had been alienated from the Crown in the minority of the Kings Predecessors of which he tells us fol. 192. The King indeed did once intend the passing of such an Act but finding what an Insurrection was likely to ensue upon it he followed the safer counsell of Sir Archibald Acheson by whom he was advis'd to sue them in his Courts of Justice Which course succeeding to his wish so terrified many of those great persons who had little else but such Lands to maintain their Dignities that they never thought themselves secure as long as the King was in a condition to demand his own Thirdly though it be true enough that some persons of honour had been denied such higher Titles as they had desired fol. 163. yet was it not the denying of such Titles unto Men of Honour which wrought these terrible effects but the denying of an honorary Title to a man of no honour If Colonel Alexander Lesly an obscure fellow but made rich by the spoils and plunder of Germany had been made a Baron when he first desired it the rest of the male-contents in Scotland might have had an heart though they had no head But the King not willing to dishonour so high a Title by conferring it on so low a person denyed the favour Which put the man into such a heat that presently he joyned himself to the faction there drove on the plot and finally undertook the command of their Armies Rewarded for which notable service with the Title of Earl of Levin by the King himself he could not so digest the injury of the first refusall but that he afterwards headed their Rebellions upon all occasions Fuller Little opposition against some variation from and more addition unto what I have written is herein contained Which if tending to the Reader his clearer information I am right glad thereof and wish him all happinesse therein Dr. Heylyn Our Author proceeds fol. 163. Generally they excused the King in their writings as innocent therein but charged Arch-bishop Laud as the principall and Dr. Cousins as the instrumentall compiler thereof This is no more then we had reason to expect from a former passage li● 4. fol. 193. where our Author telleth us that the Scotish Bishops withdrew themselves from their obedience to the See of York in the time when George Nevil was Arch-bishop And then he adds Hence-forwards no Arch-bishop of York medled more with Church-matters in Scotland and happy had it been if no Arch-bishop of Canterbury had since interressed hims●lf therein His stomack is so full of choller against this poor Prelate that he must needs bring up some of it above an hundred years before he was born Fuller What could more calmly be written Perchance some cold flegme but nothing of choller is in the expression I say again It had been happy for King Queen Royall Issue Church State the Arch-bishop himself Animadvertor Author Reader All England Dr. Heylyn Hence is it that he takes together all reports which makes against him and sets them down in rank and file in the course of this History If Arch-bishop Abbot be suspended from his Jurisdiction the blame thereof was laid on Arch-bishop Laud as if not content to succeed he endeavoured to supplant him fol. 128. The King sets out a Declaration about lawfull Sports the reviving and enlarging of which must be put upon his account also some strong presumptions being urged for the proof thereof fol. 147. The reduction of the Church to her antient Rules and publick Doctrines must be nothing else but the enjoyning of his own private practises and opinions upon other men fol. 127. And if a Liturgy be compos'd for the use of the Church of Scotland Who but he must be charged to be the Compiler of it Fuller If all the places here cited are passed already they have received their severall Answers if any of them be to come they shall receive them God-willing in due time that so for the present we may be silent to prevent repetition Dr. Heylyn But what proofs have we for all this Onely the malice of his enemies or our Authors own disaffection to him or some common fame And if it once be made a fame it shall pass for truth and as a truth find place
it would sufficiently secure them from a danger which though suspected was not certain to ensue This afterwards was very eagerly urged against them by a Committee in Parliament and sorry I am that they could not make their answer as clear as the objection Dr. Heylyn But whereas our Author tells us that the whole House consisted but of six score persons it may be thought that he diminisheth the number of set purpose to make his own party seem the greater For in the lower House of Convocation for the Province of Canterbury if all parties summon'd do appear these are no fewer then two and twenty Deans four and twenty Preb●ndaries fifty four Archdeacons and forty four Clerks representing the Dioc●san Clergy amounting in the totall to an hundred forty four persons whereof the thirty six Protestors if so many there were make the fourth part onely Howsoever all parties being not well satisfied with the lawfulness of their continuance his Majesty was advertis'd of it Who upon conference with his Judges and Counsell learned in the Laws caus'd a short Writing to be drawn and subscribed by their severall hands in these following words viz. at White-hall May the 10th 1640. the Convocation being called by the Kings Writ is to continue till it be dissolved by the Kings Writ notwithstanding the dissolving of the Parliament Subscribed by Finch Lord Keeper Manchester Lord Privy Seal Littleton chief Justice of the Common Pleas Banks Atturney Generall whit●ield and Heath his Majesties Serjeants Fuller I protest and now will enter my protestation in scriptis that it may be valid I had no designe either to substract from the number in the Convocation or add to those of the Dissentors I believe the Animadvertor is very right in his Arithmetick of Persons in the Provinciall Convocation of Canterbury But concerning the Arch-deacons give me leave once to enlarge my self in stating their true number because it is hard to find either a printed or written Catalogue of them which is exact herein They are generally reckoned up but FIFTY TWO as followeth The two first containing eighteen a piece the last sixteen which are but fifty two in my Arithmetick St. Asaph St. Asaph Bangor Bangor Anglesey Merioneth Bristol Dorset Bath and Wels. Wels. Bath Taunton Canterb. Canterbury Chichest Chichester Lewes Covent Lich. Stafford Derby Covent Salop. Ely Ely Exeter Exeter Cornwall Exeter To●nes Barnstaple Glocester Hereford Hereford Salop. London London Middlesex Essex Colchester St. Albans Lincoln Lincoln Stow. Bedford Buckingham Huntington Leicester Landaff Landaff St. Davids St. Davids St. Davids Carmarthen Cardigan Brecknock Norwich Norwich Norfolk Suffolk Sudbury Oxford Oxford Peterburg Northampton Rochester Rochester Salisbury Wilts Berks. Sarum Winchest Winchester Surrey Worcest Worcester This is the best printed List I have ever seen presented in Weaver's Funerall Monuments having the valuation of each Archdeaconry annexed taken as he saith and I believe him therein out of Sir Cotton's Library and yet I am sure it is not compleat Wherefore I supply Warwick in the Diocesse of Worcester as I find it in a more perfect written Catalogue And yet still one is wanting even Westminster who●e Church was advanced to the See of a Bishop by King Henry the Eighth and though since it hath been set back from a Cathedrall to a Collegiat-Church yet it still retaineth the honour to send one of their Prebendaries by the Title of their Arch-deacon to the Convocation And thus we have our full number of fifty four But whereas the Animadvertor taxeth me for saying The Convocation consisted of six-score I confess when I first read his words I had not a Church-History by me to confute it Yet I conceived such positiveness in a number improbable to fall from my Pen who had learn'd this Lesson from the best of Teachers the Spirit of God not to be peremptory but to leave a latitude in numbers of this nature In Times In Places In Persons Dan. 5.33 Darius being about threescore and two years 〈◊〉 Luk. 24.13 From Ierusalem about sixty furlongs Exod. 12.37 About six hundred thousand men on foot Luk. 3.23 Iesus began to 〈◊〉 about thirty years of age Joh. 6.19 Had rowed about five and twenty furlongs Act. 2.41 Added to the Church about three thousand souls But upon inspection of my Book my words were The whole House consisting of ABOUT six score where about is receptive of more or less Besides the Convocation as to the effectuall managing of matters properly consisted not of the Members belonging thereto but present therein and some five score and ten was the generall and constant appearance the rest being absent for age sicknesse and other detentions Dr. Heylyn Which Writing an Instrument our Author calls it being communicated to the Clergy by the Lord Arch-bishop on the morrow after did so compose the minds of all men that they went forwards very cheerfully with the work in hand The principall of those whom our Author calls Dissenters bringing in the Canon of Preaching for conformity being the eighth Canon in the Book as now they are plac'd which was received and allowed of as it came from his hand without alteration Fuller And calleth it an Instrument properly enough both to the originall notation and modern acception of the word Instrument is so termed ab instruendo from Instructing This Writing did first instruct Us at the present that by the judgment of those great States-men and Lawyers We might legally continue notwithstanding the dissolution of the Parliament And since this Writing hath by the event thereof instructed us that seeing the judgments of the Grandees in the Law were censured erroneous in Parliament it is unsafe in matters of this nature to rely on the opinions of any comparatively private persons As for the modern acception of the word I appeal to the Criticks in Language whether this Writing as the Animadvertor is fain to term it of the Judges may not be called by the generall name of Instrument harmoniously enough to the propriety thereof Dr. Heylyn Howsoever our Author keeps himself to his former folly shutting up his extravagancy with this conclusion fol. 169. Thus was an old Convocation converted into a new Synod An expression borrowed from the speech of a witty Gentleman as he is called by the Author of the History of the Reign of King Charls and since by him declar'd to be the Lord George Digby now Earl of Bristow But he that spent most of his wit upon it and thereby gave occasion unto others for the like mistakings was Sir Edward Deering in a speech made against these Canons Anno 1640. where we find these flourishes Would you confute the Convocation They were a holy Synod Would you argue against the Synod Why they were Commissioners Would you dispute the Commission They will mingle all powers together and answer that they were some fourth thing that neither we know nor imagine that is to say as it followes afterwards pag. 27. a Convocationall-Synodicall-Assembly of
as Authors generally agree King Edward instituted the Order of the Garter Right enough as unto the time but much mistaken in some things which relate unto that ancient and most noble Order our Author taking up his Commodities at the second hand neither consulting the Records nor dealing in this businesse with men of credit Fuller I am now come under the Roof of the Animadvertor who by the Laws of Hospitality is bound to treat me the more courteously I mean I am entred into a Subject wherein he is well seen and therefore might favourably connive at my small slips being therein best studied It is severely said that in this businesse I dealt with no men of credit The highest person next the Son of the King wearing a blew Ribbon was pleased so far to favour me as that from his own mouth I wrote the last sheet of my History his Grace endeavouring to be very exact in all particulars Dr. Heylin For first there are not fourteen Canons resident in the Church of Windsor but thirteen onely with the Dean it being King Edwards purpose when he founded that Order consisting of twenty six Knights himself being one to institute as many greater and lesser Canons and as many old Soldiers commonly called poor Knights to be pensioned there Though in this last the number was not made up to his first intention Fuller The mistake such an one as it is shall be amended in my next Edition Dr. Heylin He tells us secondly that if he be not mistaken as indeed he is Sir Thomas Row was the last Chanoellor of the Order Whereas Sir Iames Palmer one of the Gentlemen Huishers of the Privy Chamber succeeded him in the place of Chancellor after his decease Anno 1644. Fuller The Animadvertor is very discourteous to deny me the benefit of the Parenthesis If I be not mistaken The best Authors have their Ni fallor Si quid video Si bene intelligo and the like These are Grains allowed to all Pieces currant in payment Sir Thomas Roe was the last Chancellor who effectually officiated in his place Winsor before the year 1644. being a chief Garrison of the Parliament Tully calls a Consul chosen in the morning and put out before night a Vigilant Consul who never slept in all his Co●sulship But on another occasion one may say of Sir Iames Palmer otherwise a worthy Gentleman well deserving that and a better place that He was a very watchfull Chancellor who never slept in Winsor whilst invested in his Office Dr. Heylin He tels us thirdly That there belongs unto it one Register being alwayes the Dean of Winsor which is nothing so For though the Deans of late times have been Registers also yet ab initio non fuit sic it was not so from the beginning The first Dean was also Register being Iohn Boxul Anno 1557. Before which time beginning at the year 1414. there had been nine Registers which were not Deans but how many more before that time I am not able to say their names not being on Record Fuller I say not that the Register alwaies Was the Dean but being alwaies the Dean which relating to our and our fathers memories is right enough but it shall be reformed Dr. Heylin And fourthly he tels us That the Garter is one of the extraordinary Habiliments of the Knights of this Order their ordinary being onely the blew Ribbon about their necks with the Picture of St. George appendant and the Sun in his glory on the left shoulder of their Cloak whereas indeed the Garter is of common wearing and of such necessary use that the Knights are not to be seen abroad without it upon pain of paying two Crowns to any Officer of the Order who shall first claim it unlesse they be to take a journey in which case it is sufficient to wear a blew Ribbon under their Boots to denote the Garter Lastly whereas our Author tells us that the Knights hereof doe weare on the left shoulder of their Cloaks a Sun in his glory and attributes this wearing as some say to King Charles I will first put him out of doubt that this addition was King Charles his then shew him his mistake in the matter it self And first in the first year of that King Apr. 26. 1626. it was thus enacted at a publick Chapter of the Order viz. That all Knights and Companions of the Order shall wear upon the left part of their Cloaks Coats and riding Cassocks at all times when they shall not wear their Roabs and in all places of Assembly an Escocheon of the Armes of St. George id est a Crosse within a Garter not enriched with Pearls or Stones in token of the honour which they hold from the said most noble Order instituted and ordained for persons of the highest worth and honour Our Author secondly may perceive by this Act of the Kings that St. Georges Crosse within the Garter is the main device injoyned to be worn by all the Knights of that noble Order to which the adding of the Sun in his glory served but for ornament and imbellishing and might be either used or not used but onely for conformities sake as they would themselves Fuller This Sun in Glory affords me small light so that I can see but very little if any thing at all which I have to alter Dr. Heylin So many Errors in so few lines one shall hardly meet with Fuller Yea with more in fewer lines even in the Animadvertor himself in laying down the Root and Branches of the noble family of the Montagues Mistakes the more remarkable because done in correction of Mr. Sanderson and making more faults that He mendeth Or rather all is but one mistake resulting from a continued complication of omissions confusions and transpositions Advertisements on the History of the Reign of King Iames pag. 21 22. Fol. 490. Sir Edward Montague had three sonnes Edward the eldest Knight of the Bath c. The Author here is much mistaken in the House of the Montagues For first that Edward Montague who was Knight of the Bath c. was not Brother to Iames Bishop of Winchester and Henry Earl of Manchester but their Brothers Son that is to say the Son of another Edward their eldest Brother Secondly besides that Edward Iames and Henry there was another Brother whom the Author names not though he could not chuse but know the man viz. Sir Sidney Montague one of the Masters of the Requests to the late King Charles Therefore to set this matter right I am to let both him and his Readers know that Sir Edward Montague chief Justice in the time of King Edward the sixth was father of another Edward who lived peaceably and nobly in his own Country To whom succeeded a third Edward who sought for honour in the Wars and gained the reputation of a good Commander the elder Brother of Iames Henry and Sidney before mentioned and the father of a fourth Edward who
in our Author's History though the greatest falshood Tam facilis in mendaciis fides ut quicquid famae liceat fingere illi esset libenter audire in my Author's language But for the last he brings some proof he would have us think so at the least that is to say the words of one Bayly a Scot whom it concern'd to make him as odious as he could the better to comply with a Pamphlet called The intentions of the Army in which it was declared That the Scots entred England with a purpose to remove the Arch-bishop from the King and execute their vengeance on him What hand Dr. Couzens had in assisting of the work I am not able to say But sure I am that there was nothing was done in it by the Bishops of England but with the counsel and co-operation of their brethren in the Church of Scotland viz. the Arch-bishop of St. Andrews the Arch-bishop of Glasco the Bishops of Murray Ross Brechin and Dunblane as appears by the Book entituled Hidden works of darkness c. fol. 150 153 154 c. And this our Author must needs know but that he hath a mind to quarrell the Arch-bishop upon every turn as appears plainly 1. By his Narrative of the Designe in King Iames his time from the first undertaking of it by the Arch-bishop of St. Andrewes and the Bishop of Galloway then being whose Book corrected by that King with some additions expunctions and accommodations was sent back to Scotland 2. By that unsatisfiedness which he seems to have when the project was resum'd by King Charls Whether the Book by him sent into Scotland were the same which had passed the hands of King Iames or not which he expresseth in these words viz. In the Reigne of King Charls the project was resumed but whether the same Book or no God knoweth fol. 160. If so if God onely know whether it were the same or no how dares he tell us that it was not And if it was the same as it may be for ought he knoweth with what conscience can he charge the making of it upon Bishop Laud Besides as afterward he telleth us fol. 163 The Church of Scotland claimed not onely to be Independent and free as any Church in Christendom a Sister not a Daughter of England And consequently the Prelates of that Church had more reason to decline the receiving of a Liturgy impos'd on them or commended to them by the Primat of England for fear of acknowledging any subordination to him than to receive the same Liturgy here by Law establisht which they might very safely borrow from their Sister-Church without any such danger But howsoever it was the blame must fall on him who did least deserve it Fuller I will return to my words which gave the Animadvertor the first occasion of this long discourse Generally they excused the King in their writings but charged Arch-bishop Laud. I do not charge the Arch-bishop for compiling the Book but say The Scots did Nor do I say That what they charged on him is true but it is true that they did charge it on him Had I denyed it I had been a liar and seeing I affirmed no more the Animadvertor is a caviller It is observable that when our Chroniclers relate how Queen Anne Bollen was charged for Incontinency Margaret Countess of Salisbury for treasonable compliance with the Pope Henry Earl of Surrey for assuming the Arms of England Edward Duke of Somerset for designing the death of some Privy Counsellors Thomas Duke of Norfolk for aspiring by the match of the Queen of Scots to the English Crown Robert Earl of Essex for dangerous machinations against the person of Queen Elizabeth Thomas Earl of Strafford for endeavouring to subject England and Ireland to the King 's arbitrary Power That the Historians who barely report these Persons thus charged are not bound to make the charge good it is enough if they name their respective accusers as here I have named the Scots It is also observable that some of the Persons aforesaid though condemned and executed have since found such favour or justice rather with unpartiall Posterity that though they could not revive their persons they have restored their memories to their innocence And if the like shall be the hap of this Arch-bishop I shall rejoyce therein I mean if the Animadvertor's defence of him seems so clear as to out-shine the evidence so weighty as to out-poize all allegations which in printed Books are published against him In testimony whereof I return nothing in contradiction to what the Animadvertor hath written and it is questionable whether my desire that he may or distrust that he will not be believed be the greater Whatever the success be I forbear farther rejoynder To fight with a shaddow whether one's own or another's passeth for the proverbiall expression of a vain and useless act But seeing the dead are sometimes tearmed shaddows umbrae to fall foul on them without absolute necessity is an act not onely vain but wicked not onely useless but uncharitable And therefore no more hereof Dr. Heylyn Our Author proceedeth 167. Thus none seeing now foul weather in Scotland could expect it fair Sun-Shine in England In this I am as little of our Author's Opinion as in most things else The Sun in England might have shined with a brighter Beam if the Clouds which had been gathered together and threatned such foule Weather in Scotland had been dispersed and scattered by the Thunder of our English Ordnance The opportunity was well given and well taken also had it not been unhappily lost in the Prosecution Fuller Grant the Thunder of our English Ordnance had scattered the Scottish Cl●uds yet by the confession of the Animadvertor there must first be foul weather in England before there could be such fair weather to follow it The Skyes are alwayes dark and lowring even whilst the Thunder is Engendering therein Military preparations in order to a Conquest of the Scotts must needs give our Nation great troubles and for the time un-Sunshine England which is enough to secure my Expression from just exception Dr. Heylyn The Scots were then weak unprovided of all Necessaries not above three thousand compleat Armes to be found amongst them The English on the other side making a formidable appearance gallantly Horst compleaty Armed and intermingled with the Choisest of the Nobility and Gentry in all the Nation Fuller I am much of the mind of the Animadvertor that there was a visible Disparity betwixt the two Armies and the Ods in the eye of flesh on the side of the English They were Gallantly Horst indeed whether in Reference to their Horses or Riders and the King pleasantly said It would make the Scots fight against them were it but to get their brave Cloaths Indeed the strength of the Scots consisted in their Reputation to be strong reported here by such as Friended them and the Scotch Lyon was not half so fierce as he was
time but others which were meerly new were Thrice read on the same token that it occasioned the contest betwixt the Prolocutor and Doctor Holdsworth Dr. Heylyn But I needed not to have signified that our Author was one of the Committee he will tell it himself and he will tell us more then that publishing himself for one of the thirty six Dissenters the better to ingratiate himself with the rising side The next day so he lets us knovv We all subscribed the Canons suffering our selves according to the order of such Meetings to be all concluded by the majority of Votes though some of US in the Committee privately dissented in the passing of many particulars So then our Author was content to play the good-fellow at the last and go along hand in hand with the rest of his company dissenting privately but consenting publickly which is as much as can be looked for Fuller It is not worth the while for him who is falling into the grave to endeavour to ingratiate himselfe with any rising-side I appeal to the Animadvertor's own Conscience if I have not written the plaine truth herein Dr. Heylyn Our Author proceeds Ibid. No sooner came these Canons abroad into a publick view but various were mens censures upon them Not possible that in such a confusion both of affections and opinions it should otherwise be Non omnibus una voluntas was a note of old and will hold true as long as there are many men to have many minds And yet if my information deceive me not these Canons found great approbation from the mouths of some from whom it had been least expected particularly from Justice Crook whose Argument in the case of Ship-mony was printed afterwards by the Order of the House of Commons Of whom I have been told by a person of great worth and credit that having read over the Book of Canons when it first came out he lifted up his hands and gave hearty thanks to Almighty God that he had liv'd to see such good effects of a Convocation It was very well that they pleased him but that they should please all men was not to be hoped for Fuller This is all additory nothi●g at all opposite to what I have written so we may proceed Dr. Heylyn Our Author proceeds fol. 171. Many took exception at the hollowness of the Oath in the middle thereof having its bowels puffed up with a windy c. a cheveral word which might be stretched as men would measure it Of this c. which has made so much noise in the world I shall now say nothing Somewhat is here subjoyn'd by our Author in excuse thereof the rest made up by the Observator Onely I shall make bold to ask him why he observ'd not this c. when the Oath was first under consideration or why he signified not his dissent when it came to the Vote and shewed some reasons which might move him to object against it It had been fitter for a wise and juditious man to signifie his dislike of any thing when it might be mended then to joyne with others in condemning it when it was past remedy Fuller I was not sensible of any just cause of exception therein The Animadvertor confesseth that I have subjoyned some what in the excuse thereof And set me add that that somewhat is as much to purpose in the defence of that Oath being borrowed from as learned and pious a pen as England then enjoyed as any thing that the Animadvertor or his party can alledge Wherefore except joyning with those who do defend it be the same with joyning with those who do condemne it the Animadvertor hath unjustly ranked me amongst the latter Dr. Heylyn But Mala mens malus animus as the saying is The Convocation had no ill intent in it when they passed it so though some few out of their perversness and corrupt effections were willing to put their own sense on it and spoil an hones● meaning Text with a factious Gloss. But let us follow our Author as he leads the way and we shall find that Ibid. Some Bishops were very forward in pressing this Oath even before the time thereof For whereas a liberty was allowed to all to deliberate thereon untill the Feast of Michael the Arch-angel some presently pressed the Ministers of their Diocesses for the taking thereof It seems by this that our Author was so far from taking notice of any thing done in the Convocation when the Canon for the Oath was framed that he never so much as looked into the Canon it self since the Book came out He had not else dreamt of a liberty of Deliberation till the Feast of St. Michael the Arch-angel which I am sure the Canon gives not The Synod did indeed decree that all Arch-bishops and Bishops and all other Priests and Deacons in places exempt or not exempt should before the second day of November next ensuing take the following Oath against all innovation of Doctrine or Discipline By which we see that the Oath was to be given and taken before the second of November but no such thing as Liberty of Deliberation till the Feast of St. Michael And therefore if some Bishops did press the Clergy of their severall and respective Diocesses as soon as they returned home from the Convocation they might well do it by the Canon without making any such essay of their activity if providence as our Author most wisely words it had not prevented them Fuller Though there was no Solemn Order entered or printed yet am I sure having cause to be assured thereof such a condescention was agreed on and I know who did plead the Benefit of such Deliberation on the same token it was denied it him Dr. Heylyn If any of the Bishops did require their Clergy to take the Oath upon their knees as he saies they did though it be more then was directed by the Canon yet I conceive that no wise man would scruple at it considering the gravity and greatness of the business which he was about Fuller The Oath of Allegiance and Supremacy being of as high and holy a nature and concernment are never urged in that posture All things are disposed of by divine Providence and let the Doctor write against me what he pleaseth but take heed how he writes corrective Animadversions on the proceedings of the Greatest and Best of Beeings Dr. Heylyn But then Ibid. The Exception of Exceptions was because they were generally condemned as illegally passed to the prejudice of the fundamentall liberty of the Subject whereof we shall hear enough in the next Parliament Not generally condemned either as illegally passed or as tending to prejudice of the Subjects Rights I am sure of that Scarse so much as condemned by any for those respects but by such whom it concern'd for carrying on of their De●ignes to weaken the authority of the Church and advance their own But because our Author tells us that we shall find enough of this