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A61271 Episcopal jurisdiction asserted according to the right constitution thereof, by His Majesties laws, both ecclesiastical and temporal, occasioned by the stating and vindicating of the Bishop of Waterford's case, with the mayor and sheriffs of Waterford / by a diligent enquirer into the reasons and grounds thereof. Stanhope, Arthur, d. 1685?; Gore, Hugh, 1612 or 13-1691. 1671 (1671) Wing S5221; ESTC R21281 74,602 136

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the ancient state thereof and is so far from damnifying the Prerogative Royal that it mainly asserts and vindicates the same It might perhaps be doubted That different Jurisdictions in one Kingdom and those exercised by persons of different professions though deriving from one Supreme Head would rather cause than prevent many inconveniencies and those inconveniencies so bad in their nature as to detract from rather than adde to the Supreme Magistrates Dignity and Prerogative as namely by introducing confusion and disorder in the management of both and in the causes and matters to be managed in them and occasioning continual jealousies and distastes betwixt the persons appointed to manage them observed by my Lord Bacon's Advancement of Learning Aphor. 96. But in truth no such ill Effects do follow hereupon for distinct Jurisdictions exercised by persons of several orders and professions in these Kingdoms and vested with authority from the Supreme Magistrates so to do though juridical proceedings therein be different from the ordinary form and prescribed coursel of the Common Law argues unplenitude not a defect of power an advancing of it not derogating from it in that Supreme Magistrate granting the same his great wisdom and prudence in a determinate stating the nature and bounds of each Jurisdiction the appropriating certain causes to be heard and determined in them respectively commanding all His Subjects to give due obedience thereunto in such causes as are limited to those Courts and which any Subject may be concerned in And as both derive from soito depend upon him in an equal poise as to the Authority belonging to each so that all the supposed inconveniencies are sufficiently provided against And the ordering all these things in this set manner is an effect of the Kings high Prerogative enabling him so to do and is both by Custom and Law among us allowed of * The King is the indifferent Arbitrator in all Jurisdictions as well Spiritual as Temporal and it is a Right of His Crown to distribute to them that is to declare their bounds Lord Hobbarts Reports Dr. Jame 's Case observe with me these following instances The Kings Majesty is plyased to confirm a peculiar Jurisdiction granted by His Royal Progenitors to the two Universities of Cambridge and Oxford The Chancellor of each University or his Commissary administer Justice according to the Civil Law and the Customs and Statutes of the University where the persons at variance together are Students or one of them at least is such insomuch as in personal Actions for Debt matters of Accounts or any Contracts made within their own Precincts and in some criminal matters likewise none of them may be called to Westminster Hall but the cognizance thereof belongs to the Chancellor of the said University or his Commissary as is before said If any Appeals be made from Sentences given in any such Trials they are first interposed to the Regents last of all to the Kings Majesty himself Cowell Interp. in verbo Privilege Dr. Duck ut supra sect 30. Will any man now say That the Exercise of this power is intrenching on the Kings Prerogative because His great Courts at Westminster are not applied to and a Jurisdiction distinct from and independent upon them is exercised Surely no because the Exercise of this power is granted by Royal Charter it proceeds from it depends upon it is done in an acknowledgment of the Kings Supreme Power and Prerogative There is a Court of great Dignity and Honour called the Court of the Constable and Earl Marshal of England Herein are determined all Contracts touching Deeds of Arms out of the Realm as Combats Blazons of Armory and the right of bearing Arms c. proper to particular Families the manner of proceeding in this Court is according to the form of the Civil Law * L. Coke Jurisdiction of Courts ca. 17. the use and authority of which is of great sway herein Appeals that are interposed from any definitive sentence in this Court are brought to the Kings Majesty Himself not to His Chancellor the municipal Law is altogether secluded from hence Justice is administred Delinquents are punished without any relation to that or the Judges thereof yet the Kings Prerogative is not infringed by the exercise of this Jurisdiction because it is derived from the King I might add here the Court of the Admiralty the peculiar Jurisdiction exercised within the Cinque Ports by the Lord Warden thereof In these Courts matters both civil and criminal are tryed according to the course prescribed by the civil Law but in the following Leafs I shall have occasion more distinctly to write something relating to these matters and respectively to these two Courts Now as it is in these different Jurisdictions they derive from the King His Subjects are bound by command from Him to obey the Authority thereof if they refuse to obey by poenal coercions proper to each they may be compelled to it yet still the Royal Prerogative is not any whit diminished nor the Rights of the Crown at all impaired hereby As it is thus I say in the distinct Jurisdictions so it is in the exercise of Episcopal Jurisdiction in the Ecclesiastical Courts And now I have uttered thus much I perceive my self beginning to walk on a narrow slippery ridge where a steep precipice is on each side The danger of falling on one hand is least I abase the Prerogative so low as to subject the King in Ecclesiastical causes and matters under the Resolves and Decisions of Classical Assemblies * Huic Disciplinae omnes orhis principes Monarchas fasers suos submittere parere necesse est Travers Disciplin Ecclesiast p. 142 143. Bishop White in his Preface to his Treatise concerning the Sabbath as the Presbyterians do or bring Him in subordination to the Bishop of Rome as the Papists do The danger on the other hand is the over-exalting of the Prerogative so that it might be thought we attribute to the King as sometimes the Papists object to us a power to exercise Sacerdotal Offices in the Church to inflict censures * And yet our Law attributes much in this particular and that very highly to the King Reges Sacro olco unct● spiritualis Jurisdiction●s sunt capaces 33 Edw. 3. Ayde de Roy. 107. Coke Cawdrie's case p. 16. c. Now to walk even and steddy betwixt these two dangerous downfalls is that which must be endeavoured and therefore whereas we own and solemnly recognize the Kings Supremacy in Ecclesiastical matters and causes it is to be understood according to the sense and meaning set down in the words of the 37th Article of the Church of England and also in the Article of the Church of Ireland concerning civil Magistrates The Kings Majesty hath the chief Government of all Estates Ecclesiastical and Civil within His Dominions see Queen Elizabeth's Injunctions set forth in the first year of Her Reign Now this Supremacy keeps the King above all
which are criminal To pass by other statutes I instance in these two only The one De Excommunicato capiendo in 5 Elizab. c. 23. where the several crimes therein mentioned subject all such as shall be detected and found guilty of any of them to the Ecclesiastical Tribunal The other is the statute for Uniformity of Common-Prayer c. 1 Elizab. cap. 2. In this statute after a charge given in this Solemn and strict manner The Queens most Excellent Majesty The Lords Temporal and all the Commons in this present Parliament assembled do in Gods Name earnestly require and charge all the Archbishops and Bishops to endeavor their utmost for the due execution thereof●● And then it follows for their power and authority in this behalf Be it further Enacted by the Authority aforesaid That all and singular the said Archbishops Bishops c. and all other their officers exercising Ecclesiastical jurisdiction as well in places exempt as not exempt within their Diocess shall have full power and authority by this Act to reform correct and punish by censures of the Church all and singular Persons which shall offend within any of their Jurisdictions or Diocesses after the said Feast of St. John the Baptist next coming against this Act or Statute any other Law Statute Priviledge liberty or provision heretofore made had or suffered to the contrary notwithstanding See a so the statute made secundo Elizab. cap. 2 here in Ireland The thing we had in hand to make good was this That all persons whatsoever within any Diocess regularly and de jure communi are subject to the Bishop of that Diocess in matters and causes of Ecclesiastical cognizance that this position is not repugnant to the statute Laws of these Kingdoms This I think has been fully evidenced and needs no further enlarging upon And to give one instance of this jurisdictive and coercive power in Bishops over all indefinitely it shall be in the matter of substracting and detaining of Tythes a cause properly and anciently cognizable before them That ample Charter granted by King William the first to the Clergie and mentioned at large by Mr. Selden in his History of Tythes cap. 8. p. 225. The conclusion of which is after this manner Quicunque decimam detinuerit per justitiam Episcopi Regis si necesse fuerit ad redditionem arguatur Startle not Reader at the eying of this that the Bishops power of Justicing has here precedency of place before the Kings conceive not that this was to set Episcopal power on high and make Regal Authority subordinate to it But this declares to whose judicial cognizance under the King the proceeding against detainers of Tythes of what quality and condition soever they be does immediatery appertain who is the Officer and Minister of Justice therein And the Kings power being after mentioned is so set down by way of judicial order and consequence not of subordination in power and Authority Thus much these very words si necesse fuerit plainly do import as if it were said should any of these detainers prove refractory and contumacious against the Bishops authority so that there were a necessity of invoking the secu●ar power the King would then be present therewith and by poenal coercions compel them to give obedience thereto Now for what concerns any other part of the Common Law it may be also both safely and truly in respect of the thing it self affirmed That Ecclesiastical proceedings according to the position laid down bears no contrariety therewith as is set down by Dr. and Student lib. 1 c. 6. That Episcopal jurisdiction is of force in this Kingdom even by the Laws of this Realm in certain particular instances mentioned is reported by Dr. Cosen from a certain Author writing in King Hen. 8th time Apol. part 1. p. 7. The Author is shewing that the Bishop of Rome has not nor ought to have any jurisdiction in His Majesties Kingdoms by the Laws of this Realm The medium whereby he proves this thing is this because Certificates of Bishops in certain cases are allowed by the Common Law and admitted in the Kings Courts But the Popes Certificate is not admitted vid. Lord Coke Instit 4. cap. 74. circa initium de jure Regis Ecclesiastico p. 23. 26. diversos casus thidem citatos Besides in the statute of Appeals 24 Hen. 8. cap. 12. mention is made of spiritual jurisdiction exercised in causes belonging to the same and it is there expresly said That such exercise is grounded on the Laws and customs of this Realm circa mitium dicti statuti Now certainly a statute best informs any one what is truly and what is agreeable to the Common Law The Bishops are by the Common Law the immediate Officers and Ministers of Justice to the Kings Courts in causes Ecclesiastical Lord Coke de jure Regis Ecclesiastico pag. 23. And for what belongs to any custom or ancient usage that has the force of Law among us I cannot find out any such that is impugned by what I have affirmed But thus I may safely determine That if any manner and course of things established by long use and consent of our Ancestors and still kept on foot by daily continuance and practice be a custom and may set up for a Law not-written Then certainly the thing that has been affirmed that is the exercise of Ecclesiastical jurisdiction by Bishops over all persons within their respective Diocesses and in causes belonging to it and thus far endeavoured to be p●oved is not at all contrariant thereto but of perfect agreement yea of the same Nature with it Are there any that after all this will make their reply and tell us of persons exempted from Epis●● pa● power and the exercise thereof bound up and restrained in respect of such and for proof of this will alledge the Authoritative proceeding of King William the Conqueror who would not suffer any Bishop to Excommunicate any of his Barons or Officers for Adultery Incest or any such Heinous crime except by the Kings command first made acquainted therewith By the way it must be known that the word Baron is not to be taken in that limited and restrictive sense as to understand thereby the Higher Nobility to which Votes in Parliament do belong But generally for such who by Tenure in chief or in Capite held land of the King Selden spicelegium ad Eadmerum referente Tho. Fullero B. 3. Histor Eccles p. 4. Whatsoever now shall be collected hence to overthrow what has been before said is easily answered For King William very well understood his own Imperal power and right over the whole body Politick whereof the Clergie were a part And that by vertue thereof the Actual Exercise of both Civil and Ecclesiastical jurisdiction did flow from him And that he might where and when he saw cause restrain the Execution of either how long or in respect of what persons he pleased and this by special
them I cannot pass by although I do but touch at them the many Errors concurring in this latter Essay As that first the time of Appealing from that which they pretended themselves aggrieved with was lapsed when this Appeal was interposed Moreover that one and the same cause by the same persons at the same time was thus brought to tryal before two distinct Judicatories which is vexatious at least in those that procure the same to be done so That the intermediate Jurisdiction was passed by contrary to the ancient liberties and customs in such cases observed and which was among other matters digested into Articles and Chapters confirmed in the Parliament held at Clarendon in the Reign of King Henry 2d Anno Domini 1164. namely That all Appeals in England must proceed regularly from the Archdeacon to the Bishop from the Bishop to the Archbishop and if the Archbishop failed to do justice the last complaint must be to the King to give order for redress that is sayes my Lord Primate Bramhall Vindication of the Church of England p. 75. by fit Delegates See to this purpose The Statute of Appeals 24 Hen. 8. cap. 12. And this contrary to the 56 Canon of this Church Whereby the pain of Nullity is inflicted on all Acts which are sped in Appeals where the Jurisdiction intermediate is passed by for although it is true That the Kings Authority ought not to be disputed or disobeyed by any Subject where it does appear to be yet that must ever be esteemed a true and regular obedience which the King himself by Law has prescribed it should be And lastly supposing the Appeal entred by them to have been antecedently good that is good in respect of time and manner observed in interposing the same yet it is not good nor valid in its consequents because the time appointed for these pretended Appellants to receive their Apostles that is dimissory Letters from the Bishop or Judge Aquo intimating his deferring and yielding to the said Appeal and assigning of time for prosecution of the same is long since passed away without doing either And besides this slipping the Terminus Hominis that is the Term limited and appointed by the Judge from whom the Appeal is Moreover the primum fatale juris for prosecuting and ending of Appeals is likewise lapsed and no impediment can be warrantably alledged in favour and on behalf of the Appellants so as to enjoy benefit of restitution into and being allowed their secundum fatale or second year for prosecuting their former Appeal No impediment I say can warrantably be alledged by these Appellants to capacitate them for this restitution for although the matter and pretended Grievance complained of against the Bishop at the hearing thereof before the most Honourable Council was refer●d to two Honourable Members of the same and in the issue thereof from those Hononrable Referrees something like the nature of a compromise was made between both parties which might seem sufficient to stop the running on of these Fatalia Juris namely in respect of the Complainants their engaging to perform what belonged to them to do and had been required from them by the Bishop as to give account of the Money received for the Churches use and making good the Reparation of the Body of the Cathedral and other particular matters before mentioned and in respect of the Bishop his promising to withdraw his proceedings against them thereupon Although I say this seeming compromise might appear as a sufficient ground of granting admission to the secundum fatale supposing the first to be irrecoverably past Nevertheless it is not at all sufficient thereto the reason is because conditions were not performed on which this respite and seeming compromise was grounded and this non-performance of conditions was on the Appellants own part The Bishop performed more than his part in desisting hitherto from any further proceeding against them And they not performing the conditions required on their parts not then nor since nor to this very day which yet they ought to have done forthwith the benefit therefore of the other fatale is not allowable to them but being uncapable of any restitution thereunto they are really in the lapse and the said Appeal may be pronounced pro desertâ and no advantage on the Appellants part to be expected therefrom And if the Bishop should thus pronounce and resume into his cognizance the whole proceeding again as there would be both Law and Right enough to justifie his so doing so there would be a want of both these and of every thing else that might be needful to make up a safe and warrantable defence for the Complainants It is a noted and approved Maxim in poenal proceedings That Contempts of all crimes are least capable of favour or lenity Upon the whole view it sufficiently appears how little of truth or reason this exception against the manner of proceedings has to bear its self up withall Look we upon the crimes censured they were deeply scandalous and provoking Look we upon the censure inflicted 't was comparatively to the crime and a greater censure that might have been inflicted moderate and easie Look we to the manner of proceeding it was proper and without the omission of any one requisite or formality that of right ought to be used therein Look we to the Order observed It was not loose and confused but grave and regular Look we upon the whole cognizance it self This was not hasty and precipitous but prudentially guided and proceeding with good maturity and deliberation convenient intervals of time dividing seasonably every Court throughout the whole Transaction and preventing any thing of surprize that might be suspected therein I pretend not much skill to these Affairs yet being upon the design of searching as well as I was able into the whole state of this matter I have viewed and reviewed the whole series of these proceedings with the several Acts of Court Decrees and other matters incident thereunto And according to the best of what I am able to judge I cannot find in the same where to fasten any Error no not in the very niceties and punctualities of practice much less in any material point and essential matter thereof And now after all If Offenders complaints against the forms and prescriptions of Courts may pass for just Exceptions and fair Vindications of themselves we shall have many crimes but few criminals many that will be bold to offend but few that will ever acknowledge their being legally convicted for their Offences 'T is high time for persons invested with judiciary power to look about them and provide some new wayes of securing the Authority of their judicial proceedings if every bold attempt to question the legality of them may pass for a justifiable Plea of not obeying them or imprint a nullity upon them When such Offenders so justly and mildly censured shall dare openly to tell my Lord the Kings Deputy and my Lords of His Majesties Council as
any dare to say That they pare off some rights or pluck some flowers from the Kings Imperial Crown I suppose not How comes it to pass then that the Bishops jurisdiction does Whatsoever may be alledged in defence of the other may be said and it may be something more too in justification of this And know moreover That proceedings in these Temporal distinct jurisdictions go much further upon the persons of men than those of any Ecclesiastical Court does even to the imprisoning of them and in all of them except that of the University to the inflicting of capital punishments And it deserves our further observing what the great Lawyer Sir Edward Coke sayes touching this very thing Albeit the proceedings and process in the Ecclesiastical Courts be in the Name of the Bishops c. It followeth not therefore that either the Court is not the Kings or that the Law whereby they proceed is not the Kings Law for taking one example for many every Leet and View of franck pledge holden by a subject is kept in the Lords Name and yet it is the Kings Court and all the proceedings therein are directed by the Kings Laws and many subjects in England have and hold Courts of Record and other Courts and yet all their proceedings be according to the Kings Laws and customs of the Realm De jure Regis Eccles p. 39. The Learned Bishop Sanderson has convincingly demonstrated That Citations and Decrees in the Bishops Name no way encroacheth on the Kings Authority and that they who urge the contrary have this meaning rather to do the Bishops hurt than the King service and that their affections so far as by what is visible we are able to judge are much what alike towards both His Book called Episcopacy not prejudicial to Regal power p. 3 4. Bishops proceedings in Ecclesiastical Courts under the Name Stile and Seal of the Bishop See this largely discussed and declared to be warrantable by Law by my Lord Coke's comment on the Statute of Marriage 32 Hen. 8. p. 685 686 687. But this Objection is taken up again and urged with new force from hence That in the First year of King Edward the Sixth it was by Statute Enacted That the Bishops should make their processes in the Kings Name and that their Seals should be the Kings Arms. This Statute sayes Mr. Rastall was repealed 1 Mariae 1. And that Statute not being revived by Queen Elizabeth in her Reign all proceeded well enough without danger But in the first Parliament of King James there passed an Act for continuing and reviving divers Statutes and for repealing of some others 1 Jaccb c. 29. Into the body whereof a clause was cunningly conveyed for the repealing of that Statute of the Reign of Queen Mary by which King Edward 's stood repealed Upon this account it was that a little before our late turbulent confusions in England this very thing was urged against the Bishops and their proceedings were declared to be bold usurpations and encroachments on the Prerogative Royal and violations of the Law But as it is usual where men are prepossessed against any thing they are apt to run into many mistakes about the s●me It happened so in this very matter Much ●●lse was raised much stir made hereupon by the Anti●prelatical party as if the Bishops who had given themselves out to be the most zealous assertors were indeed become the onely dangerous impugners of the Kings Prerogative That now they were deprehended in the very design and therefore must needs fall having no plea to make for themselves and having the mischief of their own visible and illegal actings witnessing against them At this rate their Adversaries vaunted and fore-judged them and no doubt as matters went in those times the severest animadversion that could have followed hereupon would have been made if further proceedings therein had not been seasonably prevented by the wisdom of a pious and prudent Prince For the Blessed King Charles the First having beee made acquainted what advantage these forward and busie people were designing to make hereof to the overthrow of His Ecclesiastical Courts and the Bishops His Judges in them He did as Dr. Heylin reports in the life of Archbishop Laud p. 342. call together in the year 1637 the two Lords Chief Justices the Lord Chief Baron and the rest of the Judges and Barons and propounds to them these three following particulars to be certified of 1. Whether processes may not issue out of the Ecclesiastical Courts in the Name of the Bishops 2. Whether a Patent under the Great Seal be necessary for the keeping of Ecclesiastical Courts and enabling Citations Suspensions Excommunications and other censures of the Church 3. Whether Citations ought to be in the Kings Name and under His Seal of Arms And the like for Institutions and Inductions to Benefices and corrections of Ecclesiastical Offences And the like for Visitations whether an express Commission or Patent under the Great Seal of England were requisite To which three Proposals the said Judges unanimously on the First of July in the fore mentioned year concurred and certified under their Hands By Answering to the First thing propounded affirmatively and to the other two negatively And that the fore-mentioned Statute of Edward the Sixth is not now in force Whereupon the King issues out His Proclamation wherein having first taxed the libellous Books and Pamphlets published against the Bishops and after a recital made of these proceedings He concludes the Proclamation thus That His Majestie thought good with the advice of His Council that a publick Declaration of these the opinions of His Reverend and Learned Judges being agreeable to the judgement and resolution of former times should be made known to all His Subjects as well to vindicate the legal proceedings of His Ecclesiastical Courts and Ministers from the unjust and scandalous imputation of invading or intrenching on His Royal Prerogative as to settle the minds and stop the mouths of all unquiet spirits That for the future they presume not to censure His Ecclesiastical Courts or Ministers in these their just and warranted proceedings And hereof His Majesty admonisheth all His subjects to take warning as they will Answer the contrary at their peril c. * Resolutions unanimously given by all the Judges and the Earons of the Exchequer saith my Lord Coke are for matters of Law of Highest Anthority next unto the Court of Parliament Sir Edward Coke 2 Instit p. 618. But some mens minds will not be satisfied with any thing of this nature yet are willing to embrace what is fortified with Parliamentary Authority Both therefore to gratifie them and more throughly to confirm the matter in hand we have also this Parliamentary Authority to offer unto them For although by an Act of Parliament in the Seventeenth year of King Charles the First all jurisdiction Ecclesiastical was quite abrogated and annulled I speak in respect of England for here in Ireland no such Act
Supremacy is in him there can therefore lie no Praemunire at this day against any man exercising Jurisdiction subordinately under the King which every Ecclesiastical Judge both doth and acknowledges himself to do See to this purpose Dr. Cosen in his Apol. p. 1. cap. 18. Sir Tho Ridley ut supra Dr. Cowell in the word Praemnnire Whatsoever sayes he is now wrought or threatned against the Jurisdiction Ecclesiastical by colour of the same Statute of Praemuni●e is but in emulation of one Court to another and by consequent a derogation to that Authority from which all Jurisdiction is now derived and the maintenance whereof was by those Princes especially purposed Nam cessante ratione cessat Lek Sir Thomas Smith a person of great judgment one who well understood His Sovereigns Right and Prerogative and wou●d not detract any thing in the least manner from it declares his sense herein after this manner Verum in praesentiarum Curia Christianitatis perinde atque caeterae omnes virtutem vim authoritatem imperium jurisdictionemque suam praeterquam Serenissimae Majesti Diadem●ti Regio post immortalem Deum Potestati aut Principi accepta resert Nemini Id si verum esse concedas quod esse constat verissimum tum Sanctioni Statuariae de Praemunire nullus per Angliam locus relinquitur quando alibi quam in Curia Regis ac Reginae jus nullum dicitur De Repub Anglicana lib. 3. cap. 11. There is a certain word indeed in that Statute viz. alibi the Court of Rome or elsewhere and this word is supposed to be meant of and refer to Bishops Courts So I read that Fitz. herbert a great Lawyer reporteth it Tit. praemunire num 5. Howbeit saving all respect to so great a Lawyer yet this is judged by many grave and learned persons see those before mentioned to be a forced and groundless construction made thereof The word it self is of an ambiguous and variable signification it may refer to the Bishops Consistories and it may as well not refer to them it may refer to any Forreign Courts and Judicatories and any other Courts of these Kingdoms that are not Courts of common Law * So it seems it may refer to the Court of Admiralty in my Lord Coke's opinion 4. Instit cap. 22. or any Courts whatsoever most agreeable to the purport of that Statute wherein any thing is done in derogation of the Regality of our Lord the King it is a slippery and uncertain word none can take sure hold of it no determinate and precise meaning can be affixed to it This word then being so doubtful and uncertain and the penalty of this Statute being so severe as Imprisonment during life for feiture of Goods Lands Chattels Tenements Ejection out of the Kings favour and protection and since the noted Rule is this in poenalibus causis benignius interpretandum est L. 145. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 de Reg. Juris parag finali Now it would be so far from a benigne as to prove indeed a most rigorous sentence to pronounce the falling under so great a penalty on occasion of this expression so full of ambiguity and uncertainty May I presume with the good leave of the Learned in the Municipal Laws of this Kingdom to interpose my conjecture concerning this word Alibi or elsewhere for where there is ambiguity there is room for conjecture I have the ground of what I have to say from Dr Cosen Apol. p. 1. cap. 18. It was in the sixteenth year of King Richard the second that this Statute was Enacted that was in the year of our Lord One thousand three hundred ninety and three at which time and for some time after the Schism about creating of Popes which is reckoned and so called the Twenty ninth Schism Isaacksons Cronolog p. 353. was very rife and hot in agitation Boniface the Ninth was at Rome and Clement called the Seventh made by the French Cardinals was at Avignion in France here was at the same time as had been before two Popes actually exercising Papal Jurisdiction both making Cardinals and both striving to extend their power and authority so far that other Kingdoms as well as the places where they were resident might be under the influence thereof Now so it was that this Statute of Praemunire being intended for the utter exclusion of all Forreign Authority it might be judged necessary to cut off all intercourse betwixt the Kings Subjects and the Popes Consistory whether at Rome or elsewhere and that Processes and other judicial Writs as well dated from Avignion or any other place as from Rome might make the purchasers and pursuers of them liable to the penalties intended by that Statute But there is something further alledged here That although the Ecclesiastical Courts as now established are not in the general intent included within this Statute yet then surely they are when causes belonging to the Temporal Courts are by Ecclesiastical Judges retained and proceeded in I know it passes as a very current Opinion among many That for an Ecclesiastical Judge to deal in any cause not belonging to his Jurisdiction is Praemunire Great is the Authority that bears up this Opinion and for the greatness sake of the Authority many are the Adherers to it In my Lord chief Baron Boltons Justice of the Peace cap. praemunire There is first a recital of the several Statutes concurring in and concerning this crime then follows certain Book cases or resolutions as his Lordship expresses it added for the better explanation of those Statutes One of the said cases is to this effect viz. the 21. Note that the words of the Statute are in Curia Romana vel alibi which is intended in Curia Episcopi And therefore if a man be Excommunicated or profecuted in the Spiritual Court for a thing which appertains to the common Law he that prosecutes such a Suit is in case of praemunire for this there is alledged in the margent 5 Ed. 4. fo 6. Before I was stopped with what is thus set down and what I find affirmed by others to the same effect I was ready to say That it must be a very forc't streining of that Statute that will be able to wring such a sense out of it But who am I that I should oppose my obscure meaness to the authority of so great a person May I have fair leave therefore to offer only a few things to be considered of touching this matter in behalf of the Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction and the Judges belonging to the same And first whereas it is said that by the word alibi in the Statute is intended Curia Episcopi I refer the Reader to what has been before spoken of this particular thing and further I may now seasonably notifie one thing observable in the very Statute it self that may lead us by a more certain hand to perceive what this word alibi has a reference to and what it has not For whereas in the aforesaid Statute of
truly this is bad enough but not so bad neither as to bring under the guilt of praemunire If it were observe the consequence what that would be for it would as certainly and unavoidably expose a temporal Judge to the penalty of a praemunire if he proceed to hear and determine in a matter of Ecclesiastical cognizance because that is beyond his Commission as 〈◊〉 would expose a spiritual Judge to the same penalty that he intermeddles with causes of temporal cognizunce for observe well what Bracton sayes in relation to both Jurisdictions and the proper Judges of each Cum diversi sint hinc inde Jurisdictiones diversi Judices diversae causae debet quilibet ipsorum imprimis aestimare an sua sit Jurisdictio ne falcem videatur ponere in Messem alienam Again Non pertinet ad Judices Soeculares non pertinet cognoscere de iis quae sunt spiritualibus annexa sicut de decimis c. Bract. l. 5. c. 2. apud Hookerum Ecclesiast Pol. lib. 8. p. 218. I may be thought to have made a strange confident and odd inversion upon these two cases but for my share freely I do acknowledge that it is above the reach of my reason to conceive of any difference herein for as both Spiritual and Ecclesiastical Courts are now constituted deriving from the same Regal Supremacy that the Temporal Courts do the consequence is as good on one hand as on the other Indeed I should not have exposed my self to the censure of being thought too bold in the concerns of Temporal Courts and Temporal Judges especially in such an inversion as this so lyable to be frown'd upon But the truth is I found it made to my hand by the person whose name I have often used and whose Authority I much depend upon Is not sayes he the Prerogative Royal in and for causes Ecclesiastical as high and as rightly setled in the Prince and incident to Her Highness Crown and Regality as the same is for Temporal power and authority What cause is there then seeing seu alibi in the Statute signifieth in true construction any place ●hatsoever besides Rome That every holding Plea by an Ecclesiastical Court of a matter wherein it ought not to hold should at this time be reckoned a thing contrary to the Queens Regality more than dealing in any Ecclesiastical cause should be in any temporal Court at Westminster for no Statute of provision or praemunire assigneth these for causes which have indeed grown since by collections whil'st the Popes usurpation was continued in the Land Against which oftentimes the Remedy by prohibition could not serve the turn Cosen Apol. par 3. ch 7. p. 87. But admit the worst let there be a disparity allowed let the failing be on the Ecclesiastical Judges side yet still he is the Kings Ecclesiastical Judge And there is a favour alwayes on a Judges side so far as to presume That he is fit to Act in what he is appointed to and that he does Act according to what he is best informed of by his skill and from his conscience Sacrilegii instar est dubitare an is Dignus sit quem Imperator elegerit That persons merit and integrity is not to be doubted of whom his Princes will has appointed to any publick Office and Employment say the Emperors Grat. Valent. Theod. in Leg. Tertia C. de crimine Sacrilegii Now it is not to be rationally supposed that any one exercising the Office of a Judge will designedly and purposely hold Plea of such a cause which he either knows to be or is propounded to him as belonging to Temporal cognizance But it may so happen that by nearness and coherence of one cause with another that which indeed is a Temporal may be supposed to be an Ecclesiastical cause and if an Ecclesiastical Judge minding to do his duty as the nature of his office doth require do yet by resemblance and near coherence of one cause with another proceed in that which is Temporal shall this presently cast him under a Praemunire That is shall the exceeding some bounds and limits that the Prince under whom he exercises Jurisdiction has prescribed to him bring him under such punishments as the very enemies and underminers of his State are to endure This certainly were very harsh and rigorous I know nothing more to be declined than such an Office where the exercise of it puts a man into that ticklish and tottering condition That he is ready every day without that exact circumspection as is morally impossible for the carefullest man alive alwayes to have to fall into the greatest penalties and dangers It has been said That a corrivality betwixt the Ecclesiastical and common Lawyer has still made the one seek his own elevation by the depression of the other But here the common Lawyer has got an insuperable advantage over the other for let him but hold to this Opinion and by his Authority make it good That the bare holding Plea of a Temporal cause in an Ecclesiastical Court makes liable to the penalties of Pr●●munire and the contest is at end There will then be few that will care to study the Ecclesiastical Laws fewer that will dare to execute any Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction A grave and sober person delivers his mind touching this matter with a great deal of ingenuous freedom and truth Hoc Austerum supplicium speaking of Braemunire aliqui Jurisperiti nostri Lucri Ambitionis aestu accensi verborum quae in uno Statuto observant generalitatem ad quemvis levem Judicum lapsum praesertim Ecclesiasticorum nimis violenter extendunt sed hic corum candorem desideramus aliquorum etiam inscitiam lugemus Dr. Cowell Instit de Publicis Judicis Sect. 43. King James a wise and discerning Prince easily discovered the Grievances that this profession laboured under and was pleased earnestly to concern himself in redressing of them This great King speaking of the usefulness of the Civil and Canon Law among His own Subjects in matters of Pyracy Wills Marriages and things of like nature proceeds thus And this Law has been so much encroached upon sithence my coming to the Crown and so had in contempt that young men are discouraged from studying it and the rest weary of their lives that do profess it and would be glad to seek any other craft * K. James's Speech in the Star Chamber to the Judges about the 14th year of His Reign And some pages after in the same speech when He comes to give His particular charge to the Judges he has these words What greater misery can there be to the Law than contempt of the Law and what readier way to contempt then when questions come what shall be determined in this Court and what in that whereupon two Evils do arise the one that men come not now to Courts of Justice to hear matters of right pleaded and Decrees given accordingly But only out of a curiosity to hear questions of the