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Certain miscellany works of the Right Honourable Francis Lord Verulam, Viscount St. Alban published by VVilliam Ravvley ...; Selections. 1670
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Bacon, Francis, 1561-1626.
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most general good of people may justifie the Action be the people more or less Civil But Eupolis I shall not easily grant that the people of Peru or Mexico were such brute Savages as you intend or that there should be any such difference between them and many of the Infidels which are now in other parts In Peru though they were unapparelled People according to the Clime And had some Customs very barbarous Yet the Government of the Incae's had many parts of Humanity and Civility They had reduced the Nations from the Adoration of a multitude of Idols and Fancies to the Adoration of the Sun And as I remember the Book of Wisdom noteth degrees of Idolatry making that of Worshipping Petty and Vile Idols more gross than simply the Worshipping of the Creature And some of the Prophets as I take it do the like in the Metaphore of more ugly and bestial Fornication The Peruvians also under the Incaes had magnificent Temples of their Superstition They had strict and regular Justice They bare great Faith and Obedience to their Kings They proceeded in a kind of Martial Justice with their Enemies offering them their Law as better for their own good before they drew their Sword And much like was the State of Mexico being an Elective Monarchy As for those people of the East Goa Calecute Malaca they were a fine and dainty people Frugal and yet Elegant though not Militar So that if things be rightly weighed the Empire of the Turks may be truly affirmed to be more barbarous than any of these A cruel Tyranny bathed in the blood of their Emperours upon every Succession A heap of Vassals and Slaves No Nobles No Gentlemen No Free-men No Inheritance of Land No Stirp or Ancient Families A people that is without Natural Affection and as the Scripture saith that Regardeth not the desires of Women And without Piety or care towards their Children A Nation without Morality without Letters Arts or Sciences That can scarce measure an Acre of Land or an hour of the Day Base and sluttish in Buildings Diets and the like And in a word a very reproach of Human Society And yet this Nation hath made the Garden of the World a Wilderness For that as it is truly said concerning 〈◊〉 Turks Where Ottomans Horse sets his Foot people will come 〈◊〉 thin Pollio Yet in the midst of your Invective Martius do the Turks this right as to remember that they are no Idolaters For if as you say there be a difference between Worshipping a 〈◊〉 Idol and the Sun There is a much greater difference between worshipping a Creature and the Creator For the Turks do acknowledge God the Father Creator of Heaven and Earth being the first Person in the Trinity though they deny the rest At which Speech when Martius made some pause Zebedaeus replied with a Countenance of great Reprehension and Severity Zebed We must take heed Pollio that we fall not at unawares into the Heresie of Manuel Comnenus Emperour of Grecia Who affirmed that Mahomets God was the true God Which Opinion was not only rejected and condemned by the Synod but imputed to the Emperour as extream Madness Being reproached to him also by the Bishop of Thessalonica in those bitter and strange Words as are not to be named Martius I confess that it is my Opinion that a War upon the Turk is more worthy than upon any other Gentiles Infidels or Savages that either have been or now are both in point of Religion and in point of Honour Though facility and hope of Success might perhaps invite some other Choice But before I proceed both my Self would be glad to take some Breath And I shall frankly desire that some of your Lordships would take your turn to speak that can do it better But chiefly for that I see here some that are excellent Interpreters of the Divine Law though in several ways And that I have reason to distrust mine own Judgment both as weak in it self and as that which may be overborn by my Zeal and Affection to this Cause I think it were an Errour to speak further till I may see some sound Foundation laid of the Lawfulness of the Action by them that are better versed in that Argument Eupolis I am glad Martius to see in a Person of your Profession so great Moderation in that you are not transported in an Action that warms the blood and is appearing Holy to blaunch or take for admitted the point of Lawfulness And because methinks this Conference prospers if your Lordships will give me leave I will make some motion touching the distribution of it into Parts Unto which when they all assented Eupolis said Eupolis I think it would not sort amiss if Zebedaeus would be pleased to handle the Question Whether a War for the Propagation of the Christian Faith without other cause of Hostility be lawful or no and in what Cases I confess also I would be glad to go a little further And to hear it spoken to concerning the Lawfulness not only permissively but whether it be not Obligatory to Christian Princes and States to design it Which part if it please Gamaliel to undertake the point of the Lawfulness taken simply will be Compleat Yet there resteth the Comparative That is it being granted that it is either Lawful or Binding yet whether other things be not to be preferr'd before it As Extirpation of Heresies Reconcilements of Schisms Pursuit of Lawful Temporal Rights and Quarrels and the like And how far this Enterprise ought either to wait upon these other Matters Or to be mingled with them Or to pass by them and give Law to them as inferiour unto it self And because this is a great part and Eusebius hath yet said nothing we will by way of Mulct or Pain if your Lordships think good lay it upon him All this while I doubt much that Pollio who hath a sharp Wit of Discovery towards what is Solid and Real and what is Specious and Aiery will esteem all this but Impossibilities and Eagles in the Clouds And therefore we shall all intreat him to crush this Argument with his best Forces That by the Light we shall take from him we may either cast it away if it be found but a Bladder Or discharge it of so much as is vain and not sperable And because I confess I my self am not of that Opinion although it be an hard Encounter to deal with Pollio yet I shall do my best to prove the Enterprise Possible And to shew how all Impediments may be either removed or overcomen And then it will be fit for Martius if we do not desert it before to resume his further Discourse as well for the Perswasive as for the Consult touching the Means Preparations and all that may conduce unto the Enterprise But this is but my Wish your Lordships will put it into better order They all not only allowed the Distribution but accepted the Parts But because
CERTAIN Miscellany Works OF The Right Honourable FRANCIS LORD VERULAM Viscount St. Alban PUBLISHED By VVILLIAM RAVVLEY Doctor of Divinity one of His Majesties Chaplains LONDON Printed by T. J. for H. R. and are to be sold by Wil. Lee at the Turks = Head in Fleet-street M. DC LXX TO THE READER I Have thought good as a Servant to the Labours and Memory of that Noble Lord the Lord Viscount St. Alban to Collect into one these few rather Parcells than Just Works of his excellent Pen. Which I have done for these Causes First to vindicate the Wrong his Lordship suffered by a corrupt and surreptitious Edition of that Discourse of his Touching a War with Spain lately set forth Secondly by way of Prevention to exempt from the like Injury and Defacements those other Discourses of his herein contained Lastly to satisfie the Desires of some who hold it unreasonable that any the Delineations of that Pen though in never so small a Model should not be shewn to the World I know it carries the Excuse with it after the Authors Death to publish Fragments Therefore I will make none These Works being all for the Argument Civil I cannot represent better than in Resemblance of Aristotles Parva Naturalia to account them as his Lordships Parva Politica Howsoever I doubt not but every Judicious Reader finding of his Lordships Spirit in them will know them to be his And will afford them a Place of Reputation amongst his Greater Works W. RAWLEY CONSIDERATIONS Touching a War with SPAIN To the Prince YOur Highness hath an Imperial Name It was a CHARLES that brought the Empire first into France A CHARLES that brought it first into Spain Why should not Great Britain have his turn But to lay aside all that may seem to have a shew of Fumes and Fancies and to speak Solids A War with Spain if the King shall enter into it is a mighty Work It requireth strong Materials and Active Motions He that saith not so is zealous but not according to knowledge But nevertheless Spain is no such Giant And he that thinketh Spain to be some great Over-match for this Estate assisted as it is and may be is no good Mint-man But takes greatness of Kingdoms according to their Bulk and Currency and not after their intrinsique Value Although therefore I had wholly sequestred my thoughts from Civil Affairs yet because it is a new Case and concerneth my Countrey infinitely I obtained of my self to set down out of long continued Experience in Business of Estate and much Conversation in Books of Policy and History what I thought pertinent to this Business And in all humbleness present it to Your Highness Hoping that at least you will discern the strength of my Affection through the weakness of my Abilities For the Spaniard hath a good Proverb Desuario siempre con la Calentura There is no Heat of Affection but is joyned with some Idleness of Brain To a War are required A Just Quarrel Sufficient Forces and Provisions And a prudent Choice of the Designs So then I will first justifie the Quarrel Secondly ballance the Forces and lastly propound variety of Designs for Choice but not advise the Choice For that were not fit for a Writing of this Nature Neither is it a Subject within the Level of my Judgement I being in effect a Stranger to the present Occurrences Wars I speak not of ambitious Predatory Wars are Suits of Appeal to the Tribunal of Gods Justice where there are no Superiors on earth to determine the Cause And they are as Civil Pleas are Plaints or Defences There are therefore three just Grounds of War with Spain One Plaint Two upon Defence Solomon faith A Cord of three is not easily broken But especially when every of the lines will hold single by it self They are these The Recovery of the Palatinate A just Fear of the Subversion of our Civil Estate A just Fear of the Subversion of our Church and Religion For in the handling of the two last Grounds of War I shall make it plain That Wars Preventive upon Just Fears are true Defensives as well as upon Actual Invasions And again That Wars Defensive for Religion I speak not of Rebellion are most just Though Offensive Wars for Religion are seldom to be approved or never unless they have some Mixture of Civil Titles But all that I shall say in this whole Argument will be but like Bottoms of Thred close wound up which with a good Needle perhaps may be flourished into large Works For the Afferting of the Justice of the Quarrel for the Recovery of the Palatinate I shall not go so high as to discuss the Right of the War of Bohemia Which if it be freed from doubt on our part then there is no Colour nor Shadow why the Palatinate should be retained The Ravishing whereof was a meer Excursion of the first Wrong and a Super-Injustice But I do not take my self to be so perfect in the Customs Transactions and Priviledges of that Kingdom of Bohemia as to be fit to handle that part And I will not offer at that I cannot master Yet this I will say in passage positively and resolutely That it is impossible an Elective Monarchy should be so free and absolute as an Hereditary No more than it is possible for a Father to have so full Power and Interest in an Adoptive Son as in a Natural Quia Naturalis Obligatio fortior Civili And again that Received Maxim is almost Unshaken and Infallible Nil magis Naturae consentaneum est quam ut iisdem modis Res dissolvantur quibus constituuntur So that if the part of the People or Estate be somewhat in the Election you cannot make them Nulls or Cyphers in the Privation or Translation And if it be said that this is a dangerous Opinion for the Pope Emperour and Elective Kings It is true it is a dangerous Opinion and ought to be a dangerous Opinion to such personal Popes Emperors or Elective Kings as shall transcend their limits and become Tyrannical But it is a safe and sound Opinions for their Sees Empires and Kingdoms And for themselves also if they be wise Plenitudo Potestatis est plenitudo Tempestatis But the chief Cause why I do not search into this point is because I need it not And in handling the Right of a War I am not willing to intermix matter doubtful with that which is out of doubt For as in Capital Causes wherein but one Mans life is in question in favorem vitae the Evidence ought to be clear So much more in a Judgement upon a War which is Capital to Thousands I suppose therefore the worst That the Offensive War upon Bohemia had been unjust And then make the Case Which is no sooner made than resolved If it be made not enwrapped but plainly and perspicuously It is this in Thesi. An Offensive War is made which is unjust in the Aggressour The Prosecution and Race of