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A19863 A briefe discourse dialoguevvise shevving how false & dangerous their reports are, which affirme, the Spaniards intended inuasion to be, for the reestablishment of the Romish religion; for her Maiesties succors giuen to the Netherlanders, and for Sir Frances Drakes enterprise three yeares past into the VVest Indies. Daunce, Edward. 1590 (1590) STC 6290; ESTC S105195 9,599 28

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greedinesse is seldome satisfied whose countrey contenteth them not it may be still doubted no place being esteemed so deare as the place of birth and education that their lightnesse can not be stayed by change but rather impaired by loosing their first faith the iust recompence of which amongst those that are prudent is chastisement Vortiger could well band with this racket he putting to death an hundred Picts at one bandy whom he procured to kil the king Constantius Selim the great Turke had also great skill at this game who promising Vstarabi a phisition ten Duckets a day during his life to poison his father Baisit the second did for recompence of the fact cut of his head saying the phisition would no more spare him then he did his father if anie would require him The like Caesar Borgia the Spaniard practised with Messire Remiro Dorco whom he only vsed in all murders treasons and oppressions of the people If this were the bountie of tyrants to traitors good kings I hope will not be behind them in iust punishments whom they haue exceeded in due mainteining iustice as the testimonies of Dauid that caused the Amalec to dy that bosted to haue slaine Saul and of good Dane Canutus who being companion in this kingdom with Edmond named for his cheualry Ironside put to death Eudricus the Saxon who had slain his soueraigne to bring the whole empire into Canutus hands do plentifully witnesse These are said PHILEMON presidents of rare iustice most excellent to be followed of them that care to maintaine the high reputation of their calling for according to the opinion of ciuilians who affirme that their lawes permit a gētleman to make any iniury done to one of his order no lesse his then if it were profered him selfe which interest and similitude of dignitie were it duly regarded by persons of equalitie would greatly abate the bold offers of these disturbers of gouernement as well for that they ariue not amisse either into the handes of bad or good Princes in regard of chastisemēt as that wise kings may suspect that as they many times rise they may also fall by factious followers to whom in respect of their countries health to neglect money would be sometimes according to the comicall Poet a great gaine Then I. It is most true that where this moath of faction entereth she eateth through the garmentes of peace whether of the long or short robe Of this opinion was that noble gentleman Monsieur du Lant who being sent by the Frēch king Lewes the 12. into Italie to restore diuers castels to the Florentins takē from them by the Duke Valentino and the Vitelli in the vales of Treuere and Chiana and finding there many which bosted to be of the faction of one Marzoco greatly blamed them alledging that if the subiectes of Fraunce should name them selues partakers with the king his Maister though spoken with dutie they should be chastised as such which suppose a contrarie partie in that realme against the king an admonition worthie to be written with letters of gold in publicke places as monuments of his singular prudence For if the vnitie of elemēts humors or qualities mainteineth the life either of bodies naturall or politicke it cannot be but a disagreement doth breed a resolution spasme or some other most daungerous infirmitie in both Examples of antiquitie neede not we hauing too many that be moderne of our neare neighbours amongst which these tokens of murther IE SVIS ROYAL and IE SVIS GVISIAN haue wofully concluded their tragedie For conclusion to mainteine that the motions of Spaine issue from our actions is to make accent vpon these wordes I fauour the Spaniard which are no lesse to be forborne thē these I take part with Marzoco or I am a Guisian all foure by implication being of one nature In regard whereof that all subiects are to esteeme their naturall Prince as the Generall of God I would that those who haue not obserued the course of times should with the ancient French which esteemed all things lawful their kings did in fauor of the people humbly reuerence their Princes proceedings as his who standing for the publike benefite of his countrey is alwayes blamelesse though his pretenses to the ignorant multitude haue some shew of iniustice For how may he that leadeth a priuate life and neuer handled publicke affaires be able to reason in things meete lawfull or necessarie for gouernement the true knowledge of which drawing neere the diuine prouidence is not to be disputed in the schooles of Thersites vnlesse there be some Vlysses to moderate For who so attributeth the effectes of things present to causes next going before may be deceaued with him who not knowing his patients infirmity and finding neither oister shelles or the parings of apples by which he might coniecture the sick had surfeted but after spying a saddle vnder the bed feared not to wager his life that his patient had eaten a horse or more properly to ascribe the hostilitie of Spaine to the iniuries of our nation is to be no lesse mad then he who thought his phrensie happened by washing his head the day before in cold water For nothing gentlemen said I is plainer then that their naturall auarice and pride and not our iniuries haue furiously incited thē according to their embleme of Burgundie hauing two handes with a steele and flint stricking fire with these wordes Ante ferit quàm flamma micet to esteeme no law of societie or bond of nature whereby they may more securely oppresse all partes by violence and stealth This hath bene touched by many but very aptly by the expert and valiant knight Sir Roger VVilliams who hauing serued long time in their warres hath with quicke colours described their crueltie towardes their faithfull seruitours not being of their nation VVith these therefore that keepe no mediocritie it is most daungerous in matter of state to vse a way consisting in a meane the same being neither able to procure frendes or to propell a weake or feble enemie VVhich speaches ended PHILEMON in the behalfe of the rest which seemed by their silence desirous to depart answered well EPOENETVS the time rather requiring to consider what we ought to doe then what we haue done let both our nations to expresse the good affections of honest men haue in their standerds guidons and ensignes the deuise of a souldiours match burning with these wordes about the wreath al fine loial which spoken hee and the company departed with countenances promising the accomplishment and performance of great matters FINIS Lib. 4. Ilia Exod. cap. 24. sect 4. 7. Paradoxe troisiesme Flor. Hist. Sans. de vitis Tur. Reg. 2. cap. 1. Flor. Hist. Adelpho Act. 2. Home Lib. 2. Ilia
as a matter impossible to his iustice how aunswere they his vsurpation of the title of this realme often reproued by Maister Man her Maiesties liger in Spaine to the great hazard of his person as I heard him and some of his traine affirme before the same was laid a part But they may replie that hee being permitted during his abode in this kingdome by generall assent to vse that title might without her Maiesties preiudice continue the same But there we may as the prouerbe is lay a straw for whatsoeuer is allowed by any authoritie may be disanulled by the same againe the causes of any thing ceassing the effectes of the same proceede no further whereby may be concluded that not onely the Princes and people of this kingdome by whose fauors hee had that title haue power to retract the same but also that his wife dying without issue by him could leaue Phillip no greater interest then she had which was but for terme of her naturall life These matters say they for that they haue made their will a law require neither aunswere nor excuse no more doth their bost made seuē yeares past in the duke of Parmas Camp before men of account who by the great prudence of that honorable coūseller Sir Francis VValsingham now dead were appointed for speciall seruice to that place that they would leaue their trade to Peru our countrie being a shorter cut from whence they might drawe equall treasure At this time there was no speache of religion neither of her Maiesties alliance with the Netherlanders or of Sir Francis Drake who as thē had not bene in the Indies but of their auarice crueltie and ambition the effectes of which preceded any acte done by her Maiestie whose mildnesse of neighbourhood and contentment of state haue exceeded the temperance of all Princes of this or anie other age Now gentlemen said I consider of the Spanish proceedings which were broched in the time of papacie and our greatest deuotion to Philip and his nation before either the reestablishment of the reformed religiō or of her Maiesties receiuing the Netherlanders for their ancient alliance with her kingdome into her sauegard or anie enterprise made into the Indies by her authoritie VVeigh moreouer the state and qualitie of iustice which whether she gouerneth betwene nations or a people of one countrey neuer imposeth anie law or punisheth by the same till offences be committed which law must then also be recieued by the generall and free consent of nations and people Iudge also whether his enterprises do stand with his pretence of pietie for if he had bene as he feigneth deuoured with the zeale of his religion were there not great occasions giuen him in the time of the French king Charles the ninth his brother in law and neighbour to shew some effects of his Catholike title Cassimer then departing France twise vpon the onely pay of the French king Nay hath he not since then maintained at his charge the Dukes of GVISE and MAINE against his other brother in law Henrie the third a deuout Romanist and chiefe ringleader at the great murder in Paris yea which more is hath he not consented to the murder of the said Henrie I will not say procured it contrarie to the dignity of all kings did he after according to the iustice custome of good princes either reproue the Duke du Maine or his complices for that fact or hath he not since thē aided the said Duke rather more openly then before not only with treasure but also with souldiers sent from the duke of Parma To cōclude hath not his policie bene by nourishing factions in that and our realme to be made absolute in the west continēt of Europe Ilands adiacent and hath he not for that purpose renewed his league with the Turke who slily smiling at his madnesse panteth to deuour him and the rest of Christendome by that meane No man can denie it time hath proued it the bloud of thousands crieth against it A reformation then of Religion or our ill neighbourhood to him are no causes of his motions he hauing plotted our ruine and rasure of his Catholike alie in his neerest friendship with both but the auarice crueltie and pride of his people which neither the penurie of Spaine can satisfie or the Pyrene hilles or wide Ocean can limit Beleeue me EPOENETVS said PHILEMON a gentleman of good qualitie tolde me that he heard in Rome that the cardinall named Buono compagno called since then Pope Gregorie being demanded at his returne from Spain how he liked that kingdome answered there were plaines of luxurie vales of miserie and hilles of pride To which I answered I am PHILEMON easily perswaded to beleeue you Monsieur la Nouë a man so wel qualified that few come neere him in all the vertues not one goeth beyond him in anie confirming some part thereof This noble gentleman composing during his captiuitie amongst the Spaniards diuerse discourses both politike and martiall notwithstanding that he giueth honorable testimonie of their discipline drawne from the great fortunes and military prudence of the Emperor Charles the fift yet affirmeth that verie often one shall heare in their armies a new souldier but of three crownes pay the moneth say in great maiestie if he hath not those fauors he expecteth that he is as good as the king he further for proofe of their insolencie maketh this question what will then a Captaine do in like case that hath bene found at assaults and battailes He will answereth la Nouë say I am better then the Pope Frō this figure may our countrimen who are yet free frame their argument of word and fact against them that would make them captiue that honorable and famous person speaking so liberally of their pride in his durance They may also foresee what insolencie the great officers of Spaine would vse towards strangers their meanest companions standing amongst themselues so much vpon their pantofles we may be also perswaded that they who compare with their naturall king will smally esteeme their friendship which trafficke the state of their countrey vnlesse they may after maintaine that amitie which they haue gained by gold by their water imperiall drawne from the hardnesse of iron many hauing bene pleased with the foule pleasures of some in the night whose beauties they haue after lothed in the day Then PHILEMON I would EPOENETVS that all men were for the commō quiet of your mind nothing breeding a greater resolution in this sort then to thinke they are esteemed sacred of them by whose promises they are corrupted as though they were of the deepest trust which haue offended in the highest degree of trechery They are not PHILEMON said I tyrants although they make no semblant thereof euer fearing those by whom they are aduanced Philip of Macedonia allowing for his profite those that would betray their countrey but not those that had betrayed it And for that their