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A01128	Certaine miscellany vvorks of the Right Honourable Francis Lo. Verulam, Viscount S. Alban. Published by William Rawley ...	Bacon, Francis, 1561-1626.; Rawley, William, 1588?-1667.	1629 (1629)	STC 1124; ESTC S100333	51,832	176

or chiefly both the Spirituall and Temporall Honour and Good haue beene in one pursuit and purchase conioyned POL. Me thinks with your fauour you should remember Martius that Wilde and Sauage People are like Beasts and Birds which are Ferae Naturae the Property of which passeth with the Possession and goeth to the Occupant But of Ciuill People it is not so MAR. I know no such difference amongst Reasonable soules But that whatsoeuer is in order to the greatest and most generall Good of people may iustifie the Action be the people more or lesse Ciuill But Eupolis I shall not easily grant that the People of Peru or Mexico were such brute Sauages as you intend Or that there should be any such Difference betweene them and many of the Infidels which are now in other parts In Peru though they were vnapparrelled People according to the Clime And had some Customes very Barbarous Yet the Gouernment of the Incae's had many Parts of Humanity and Ciuility They had reduced the Nations from the Adoration of a Multitude of Idols and Fancies to the Adoration of the Sunne And as I remember the Booke of Wisdome noteth Degrees of Idolatry Making that of Worshipping Petty and Vile Idols more grosse than simply the Worshipping of the Creature And some of the Prophets as I take it doe the like in the Metaphore of more vgly and Bestiall Fornication The Peruuians also vnder the Incaes had magnificent Temples of their Superstition They had Strict and Regular Iustice They bare great Faith and Obedience to their Kings They proceeded in a kinde of Marshall Iustice with their Enemies offering them their Law as better for their owne Good before they drew their Sword And much like was the State of Mexico being an Electiue Monarchie As for those People of the East Goa Calecute Malaca they were a Fine and Dainty People Frugall and yet Elegant though not Militar So that if Things be rightly weighed the Empire of the Turks may be truly affirmed to be more Barbarous than any of these A cruel Tyranny bathed in the Bloud of their Emperours vpon euery Succession A Heap of Vassals and Slaues No Nobles No Gentlemen No Free-men No Inheritance of Land No Stirp or Ancient Families A People that is without Naturall Affection and as the Scripture saith that Regardeth not the desires of Women And without Piety or Care towards their Children A Nation without Morality without Letters Arts or Sciences That can scarce measure an Acre of Land or an Houre of the Day Base and Sluttish in Buildings Diets and the like And in a word A very Reproach of Humane Societie And yet this Nation hath made the Garden of the World a Wildernesse For that as it is truly said concerning the Turks Where Ottomans Horse sets his foot people will come vp very thin POLLIO Yet in the midst of your Inuectiue Martius doe the Turks this right as to remember that they are no Idolaters For if as you say there be a Difference betweene Worshipping a Base Idoll and the Sunne There is a much greater Difference betweene worshipping a Creature and the Creator For the Turks doe acknowledge God the Father Creator of Heauen and Earth being the first Person in the Trinity though they deny the rest At which Speech when Martius made some pause Zebedaeus replied with a Countenance of great Reprehension and Seueritie ZEBED Wee must take heed Pollio that wee fall not at vnawares into the Heresie of Manuel Comnenus Emperour of Grecia Who affirmed that Mahomets God was the true God Which Opinion was not only reiected and condemned by the Synode but imputed to the Emperour as extreme Madnesse Being reproached to him also by the Bishop of Thessalonica in those bitter and strange Words as are not to be named MARTIVS I confesse that it is my Opinion that a Warre vpon the Turke is more worthy than vpon any other Gentiles Infidels or Sauages that either haue beene or now are both in point of Religion and in point of Honour Though Facilitie and Hope of Successe mought perhaps inuite some other Choyce But before I proceed both my Selfe would be glad to take some Breath And I shall frankly desire that some of your Lordships would take your turne to speake that can doe it better But chiefly for that I see here some that are excellent Interpreters of the Diuine Law though in seuerall wayes And that I haue reason to distrust mine own Iudgement both as weake in it selfe and as that which may be ouerborne by my Zeale and Affection to this Cause I thinke it were an Errour to speake further till I may see some sound Foundation laid of the Lawfulnesse of the Action by them that are better versed in that Argument EVPOLIS I am glad Martius to see in a Person of your Profession so great Moderation in that you are not transported in an Action that warmes the Bloud and is appearing Holy to blaunch or take for admitted the Point of Lawfulnesse And because mee thinkes this Conference prospers if your Lordships will giue me leaue I will make some motion touching the Distribution of it into Parts Vnto which when they all assented Eupolis said EVPOLIS I thinke it would not sort amisse it Zebedaeus would be pleased to handle the Question Whether a Warre for the Propagation of the Christian Faith without other cause of Hostilitie be lawfull or no and in what cases I confesse also I would be glad to goe a little further And to heare it spoken to concerning the Lawfulnesse not only permissiuely but whether it be not Obligatory to Christian Princes and States to designe it Which Part if it please Gamaliel to vndertake the point of the Lawfulnesse taken simply will be Compleat Yet there resteth the Comparatiue That is it being granted that it is either Lawfull or Binding yet whether other Things be not to be preferr'd before it As Extirpation of Heresies Reconcilements of Sohismes Pursuit of Lawfull Temporall Rights and Quarrels And the Like And how farre this Enterprise ought either to wait vpon these other Matters Or to be mingled with them Or to passe by them and giue Law to them as inferiour vnto it selfe And because this is a great Part and Eusebius hath yet said nothing wee will by way of Mulct or Paine if your Lordships thinke good lay it vpon him All this while I doubt much that Pollio who hath a sharpe Wit of Discouery towards what is Solide and Reall and what is Specious and Aiery will esteeme all this but Impossibilities and Eagles in the Clouds And therefore wee shall all intreat him to crush this Argument with his best Forces That by the Light we shall take from him wee may either cast it away if it be found but a Bladder Or discharge it of so much as is vaine and not sperable And because I confesse I my selfe am not of that Opinion although it be an hard Encounter to deale with Pollio yet I shall doe my

CERTAINE Miscellany Works OF THE RIGHT HONOVRABLE FRANCIS Lo. Verulam Viscount S. ALBAN PVBLISHED By WILLIAM RAWLEY Doctor of Diuinity one of his Maiesties Chaplaines LONDON ¶ Printed by I. Hauiland for Humphrey Robinson dwelling at the signe of the three Pigeons in Pauls Church-yard 1629. To the Reader I Haue thought good as a Seruant to the Labours and Memory of that Noble Lord the Lo. Viscount S. Alban to collect into one these few rather Parcells than lust Works of his excellent Pen. Which I haue done for these Causes First to vindicate the Wrong his Lordship suffered by a corrupt and surreptitious Edition of that Discourse of his Touching a Warre with Spaine lately set forth Secondly by way of Preuention to exempt from the like Iniury Defacements those other Discourses of his herein contained Lastly to satisfie the Desires of some who hold it vnreasonable that any the Delineations of that Pen though in neuer so small a Modell should not be shewen to the World I know it carries the Excuse with it after the Authors Death to publish Fragments Therefore I will make none These Works being all for the Argument Ciuill I cannot represent better than in Resemblance of Aristotles Parua Naturalia to account them as his Lordships Parua Politica Howsoeuer I doubt not but euery Iudicious Reader finding of his Lordships Spirit in them will know them to be his And will afford them a Place of Reputation amongst his Greater Works W. RAWLEY CONSIDERATIONS Touching a WARRE With SPAINE VVritten about fiue yeeres since and inscribed to his MAIESTIE At that time PRINCE OF WALES LONDON ¶ Printed by IOHN HAVILAND for Humphrey Robinson 1629. CONSIDERATIONS Touching a WARRE With SPAINE To the Prince YOur Highnesse hath an Imperiall Name It was a CHARLES that brought the Empire first into France A CHARLES that brought it first into Spaine Why should not Great Britaine haue his turne But to lay aside all that may seeme to haue a shew of Fumes and Fancies and to speake Solids A Warre with Spaine if the King shall enter into it is a mighty Worke It requireth strong Materialls and Actiue Motions He that saith not so is zealous but not according to knowledge But neuerthelesse Spaine is no such Giant And he that thinketh Spaine to be some great Ouermatch for this Estate assisted as it is and may be is no good Mint-man But takes greatnesse of Kingdomes according to their Bulke and Currency and not after their intrinsique Value Although therefore I had wholly sequestred my thoughts from Ciuill Affaires yet because it is a new Case and concerneth my Country infinitely I obtained of my selfe to set downe out of long continued experience in Businesse of Estate and much Conuersation in Bookes of Policie and Historie what I thought pertinent to this Businesse And in all humblenesse present it to your Highnesse Hoping that at least you will discerne the strength of my Affection through the weaknesse of my Abilities For the Spaniard hath a good Prouerbe Desuarió siempre con la Calentura There is no Heat of Affection but is ioyned with some Idlenesse of Braine To a Warre are required A Iust Quarrell Sufficient Forces and Prouisions And a prudent Choyce of the Designes So then I will first iustifie the Quarrell Secondly ballance the Forces and lastly propound variety of Designes for Choice but not aduise the Choice For that were not fit for a Writing of this Nature Neither is it a Subiect within the leuell of my Iudgement I being in effect a Stranger to the present Occurrences Warres I speake not of ambitious Predatory Warres are Suits of Appeale to the Tribunall of Gods Iustice where there are no Superiours on earth to determine the Cause And they are as ciuill pleas are Plaints or Defences There are therefore three iust Grounds of Warre with Spaine One Plaint Two vpon Defence SALOMON saith A Cord of three is not easily broken But especially when euery of the lines will hold single by it selfe They are these The Recouery of the Palatinate A iust Feare of the Subuersion of our Ciuill Estate A iust Feare of the Subuersion of our Church and Religion For in the handling of the two last Grounds of Warre I shall make it plaine That Warres Preuentiue vpon Iust Feares are true Defensiues as well as vpon Actuall Inuasions And againe that Warres Defensiue for Religion I speake not of Rebellion are most iust Though Offensiue Warres for Religion are seldome to be approued or neuer vnlesse they haue some Mixture of Ciuill Titles But all that I shall say in this whole Argument will be but ●ike Bottomes of Thred close wound vp which with a good Needle perhaps may be flourished into large Workes For the Asserting of the Iustice of the Quarrell for the Recouery of the Palatinate I shall not goe so high as to discusse the Right of the Warre of Bohemia Which if it be freed from doubt on our part then there is no Colour nor Shadow why the Palatinate should be retained The Rauishing whereof was a meere Excursion of the first Wrong and a Super-Iniustice But I doe not not take my selfe to be so perfect in the Customes Transactions and Priuiledges of that Kingdome of Bohemia as to be fit to handle that part And I will not offer at that I cannot master Yet this I will say in passage positiuely and resolutely That it is impossible an Electiue Monarchy should be so free and absolute as an Hereditary No more than it is possible for a Father to haue so full Power and Interest in an Adoptiue Sonne as in a Naturall Quia naturalis Obligatio fortior Ciuili And againe that Receiued Maxime is almost Vnshaken and Infallible Nil magis Naturae consentaneum est quàm vt iisdem modis Res dissoluantur quibus constituuntur So that if the part of the People or Estate be somewhat in the Election you cannot make them Nulls or Cyphers in the Priuation or Translation And if it bee said that this is a dangerous Opinion for the Pope Emperour and Electiue Kings It is true it is a dangerous Opinion and ought to be a dangerous Opinion to such personall Popes Emperours or Electiue Kings as shall transcend their limits and become Tyrannicall But it is a safe and sound Opinion for their Sees Empires and Kingdomes And for themselues also if they be wise Plenitudo Potestatis est plenitudo Tempestatis But the chiefe Cause why I doe not search into this point is because I need it nor And in handling the Right of a Warre I am not willing to intermix matter doubtfull with that which is out of doubt For as in Capitall Causes wherein but one Mans life is in question in fauorem vitae the Euidence ought to bee cleare So much more in a Iudgement vpon a Warre which is Capitall to Thousands I suppose therefore the worst That the Offensiue Warre vpon Bohemia had beene vniust And then make the Case Which is no