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A58389 Reflections upon two books, the one entituled, the case of allegiance to a King in possession the other, an answer to Dr. Sherlock's Case of allegiance to sovereign powers, in defence of the case of allegiance to a King in possession, on those parts especially wherein the author endeavours to shew his opinion to be agreeable to the laws of this land. In a letter to a friend. 1691 (1691) Wing R734; ESTC R200522 45,353 73

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Allegiance is due from every private Man some where And I am sure I may without contradicting any thing I have hitherto said fix the right to it in the Person of the King de jure where the Kingly Office is not exercised by any other But where another is possessed of the very Kingly Office which is wrought into the Constitution it self and he puts in execution all the same Laws by which rightful Kings ought to govern to that Office and the Person possessed of it my Allegiance is by those Laws due and no Law makes me a Judge of the King's Title And it was upon this Ground undoubtedly that my Lord Chief Justice Hales who plainly held the Law in the Case of the Statute 11 H. 7. to be as I now maintain it would never try any Treason or other Offences against the State as our Author says while he was Case f. 4. Judge under Cromwell But to return What if I should suppose as some wise Men have affirmed that when our Ancestors heretofore submitted to a certain Family to take away occasion of Factions and making Parties they confined the Crown to that Family but did not so strictly oblige themselves to him who should be next in Course of descent but that the States of the Kingdom who represent and include the body of the whole People if they found him absolutely unqualified and unfit for the Government might skip over him still keeping to some of that Line And since what the Original Frame of our Constitution was is not derived to us with any certainty by History or Authentick Records that may well be supposed to be our Constitution if constant Practice and Usage till very lately be a probable proof of Right in things where the positive Rule is lost If this were the case what would then become of the Supposition of a certain Person always lawful and rightful King by Vertue Case f. 8. 38. of the Original Constitution c. But not to rely upon this I must take leave to believe what I touch'd upon before That it was the Form of the Government it self of which our Ancestors who framed it were so fond and not of the particular Person or Family tho they were by that Form to have the greatest Trust and best Share comparing them with particulars not the whole Body in it And therefore I am fully satisfied as I said before that the very Fundamental Constitution may remain tho the Family should be changed by a Competent Power and that no Injury or Injustice is done them thereby since their Right was given them only by positive Laws and may therefore be taken away again by the same means And if so after all our Author 's ☜ Labour the Statute 11 H. 7. does no ways break in upon our Constitution If our Author would but explain the words King de jure as I have all through this Paper press'd him to do we should easily rid the Stat. 11 H. 7. of the Contradiction which he supposes Case f. 39 it implies A King de jure has a Right to something as he says that something is the possession of the Throne which will consequently draw the Royalties and Revenues of that with the Allegiance of the Subject But till he attains that Possession in vertue of which the Right to those Royalties Allegiance c. belongs to him he must content himself without them And the same Answer serves to his other Objection That this Statute is against the Law of Nature which Case f. 40. our Author from that Huddle of Inconsistencies Calvin's Case says makes Faith Obedience and Ligeance due to the lawful King c. and some parts of 'em indispensable and not to be transferred It is not worth the while to argue any thing from Calvin's Case the Authority of which can never be of advantage to either side because there is scarce any one Proposition unless it be the very point adjudged advanced through that whole Case as 't is reported by my Lord Coke but what may be answered that is contradicted by something else of the same Author in the same Case but to consider according to reason as much of it as our Author makes use of I will not dispute at present but that Obedience to Governours is due by the Law of Nature that is That the Law of Nature does extend it self to Civil Societies when they are framed and in general obliges such as are in the Condition of Subjects to pay their Governours all that Duty which according to the Frame of their Government and Laws is necessary to the Maintenance and Welfare of that Society Other natural Allegiance there is none nor does the Law of Nature tho our Author affirm the contrary without offering any Proof or Reason for it lay before the Subject any certain Duties which they are to put in practice whether the particular Laws of the Realm enjoyn them or not and such as no human Authority can dispence with as long as they stand in the Relation of Prince and Subject This is a very wild Notion and can have no Foundation in Reason Take away the Relative Terms of Prince and Subject and suppose that a Nation submits to a particular Person after this manner He shall have Rule over them and govern according to such particular Rules as then are or with their consent afterwards shall be agreed upon and none other Is not all the Freedom which they had by Nature but their being obliged to submit to the putting those Rules in execution left with them and unsubmitted May not any positive Law afterwards alter enlarge or abridge those measures of Obedience and Submission which were the Creatures of positive Law at first It may be said it will be inconsistent with the name of King to have no Allegiance due to him I would ask the Objector Which is more reasonable that a Notion the Pedantry of affirming positively what the natural Sense of a Term is should have Power over and render insignificant or repeal the plain Words of an express Law or that the Law should for once frame a new tho it may be an improper Sense for the Terms and over-rule the Grammarian If the Law should in express words say That he that has a just Title to the Crown shall be stiled King de jure while he is out of Possession tho that is not so nor is that name ever allowed him till he is restored And he that is in Possession King de facto that during the time of his Possession a temporary Allegiance shall be paid by the People to him and not to the King de jure I think common Sense will say that there is no inconsistency in this unless the words King de jure are so very Sacred that they can't lower their Signification to a positive Law but must eternally carry with them one and the same extent of Power and Exercise of Authority That the Law of
sure will be agreed unto me If there be any such Judicature it can be none but they And allowing them to be so common sense will say They being made Judges must thereby impliedly have a Right to act in it free from all precedent Obligations of Duty to either Party They act as freely in that point till the Determination is made as their Ancestors did when they may be supposed to be met together to agree upon a Form of Government Only that they are to keep to the Rule which they find setled and agreed on both sides viz. That our Government is an Hereditary Monarchy And the Question to be determined by them is Which of the Pretenders has the best Title upon that Foundation Is it not then an Affront put upon the judgment of a Reader to say That because it is maintained that the positive Laws of the Land for the Quiet and Preservation of the Monarchy forbid every private Subject in his capacity of a Subject to take upon him to censure the Title of a King possessed of the Throne it will thence follow That the States or Body of the Nation when there is such a stop in the proceedings by some doubt upon the very Constitution it self that the whole is likely to fall unless a decision be made of it shall not have an equal Power to rescue themselves from that Confusion as their Ancestors had to form themselves into Order They do this upon the Reason of the Constitution it self and by a Power and Fundamental Right which of necessity must be supposed to be reserved when they embodied themselves into a Politick frame they act in it upon their old Natural Liberty which could never be submitted to the Prince in this instance because the Question arises only upon the doubt who is the Prince And therefore the Duke of Tork in his Answer to the Objection that was made against his Claim to the Crown from the Oaths they had taken to Hen. 6. tells the Lords He lawfully may claim and pursue his right and demand Justice in such form as he doth And that all other persons and namely the Peers and Lords of this Realm may and by Law of God and Man ought to help and assist him in Truth and Justice notwithstanding those Oaths c. Our Author calls for a proof of the Authority of the Parliament Def. f. 34. or States of the Kingdom to determine the Rights of contesting Princes As if there were a printed Instrument of the Fundamental Constitution extant by which the Priviledges and Powers of each part of it are limited 'T is said before that necessity of Government warrants this and the same necessity warrants their convening in order to it without the formality of a Summons That Form and Method of proceeding supposes a King and Government setled and is one of the Rules which direct the King how he shall administer that Government and what are the Duties and Offices of particular persons under it This is above all those Forms a necessary Means to settle the Rule it self However I am pretty confident that those conversant in our ancient Histories and Parliamentary Records will find reason to carry the Power of the States of the Kingdom farther rather than to deny their Authority in this point The Claim of the D. of York 39 H. 6. is not the only instance of the thing but it being a very solemn and notorious one and a full proof of this point I will lay it down a little more fully and in a piece then it was for our Authors turn to do Richard Duke of York 39 H. 6. comes to the Parliament and by his Counsel puts in his Claim in Writing to the Crown deriving his Pedigree very plainly so as to entitle himself as next Heir by a Lineal Succession The Pedigree could not be unknown to any one of the Lords before whom the claim was laid yet King H. 6. having long enjoyed the Crown the Lords say The matter was so high and of such weight that it was not to any of the Subjects to enter into Communication thereof without his high Commandment Agreement and Consent had thereunto They thereupon go to the King opening the Claim He could not be put into a better condition then he was and therefore had he lookt upon this cautiousness of the Lords to be more than Complement he would never have consented to their hearing it but he does not offer to forbid their proceeding tho 't is certain he was sensible of the defects of his Title and therefore earnestly prays the Lords to examine strictly and raise all the Objections they could against the Duke's Title Then they read the Claim and order the Judges to say what they could in maintenance of the King 's Right They excuse themselves say It hath not been accustomed to call the Justices to Counsel in such matters the matter was too high and toucht the King's High Estate and Regalie which is above the Law and passed their Learning wherefore they durst not enter into any Communication thereof for it pertained to the Lords of the King's Blood and the apparage of this Land to have Communication and meddle in such matters But this was not the only reason the Judges gave for their silence They say They were the King's Justices and have to determine such matters as come before them in the Law between party and party they may not be of Counsel And this matter was between the King and the said Duke of York as two parties The Judges Excuse was allowed as proper for Counsel was not their Duty 't was not a matter to be adjudged by the express Laws of the Land of which they had the Exposition and Execution but by something above the positive Laws And they were not a part of the Parliament that Power of determining they had none But the King's Attorney and other Counsel being required to do what had been required of the Judges the like Excuse would not be admitted from them for they were the King 's particular Counsellers and therefore they had their Fees and Wages They return They were the King's Counsellers in the Law in such things as were under his Authority or by Commission but this matter was above his authority wherein they might not meddle Yet they are over-ruled for 't was their Duty to offer what they could in a Court of Judicature in defence of their Master's Title Then It was agreed by all the Lords that every Lord should have his freedom to say what he could say without any reporting or magre to be had for his trying And after the saying of all the Lords every after other Objections are framed against the Duke's claim The Duke puts in Answers to them and often prays that the matter might be determined The Lords solemnly declare that the Duke's Title could not be defeated but agree upon the Expedient which the Chancellor proposes desiring the Lords that if any of
them could find any other or better means that it might be shewed whereupon after sad and ripe Communication in this matter had it was concluded and agreed by all the said Lords that sith is was so that the Title of the said Duke of York cannot be defeated and in eschewing the great inconvenience that might ensue to take the means above rehearsed viz. That the King should keep the Crowns and his Estate and Dignity Royal during his life and the said Duke and his Heirs to succeed him in the same The Lords open this Expedient to the King and both the Parties solemnly submit and agree to it From this proceeding 't is very plain in the first place which I toucht upon before That if the Judges who made the Excuse and Lords who admitted it know any thing of our Constitution they are to judge according to the known and written positive Laws of the Land which prescribe the Offices and Duties of particular persons and to speak what their sense is but have nothing to do with enquiring into or giving their Judgment upon the King's Title They are to put the Laws in Execution under the King But they can't find any Law to condemn or meddle with the Title of the King in possession no nor to defend it being called in question in a proper place The Laws with which they were intrusted meddle not with it the one way or the other And they declared themselves incompetent to give any Advice or Determination in it tho our Author will make every particular man a competent Judge of it And 't is as plain in the next place That all the Parties agree the Parliament to be proper Determiners of such a difference which may inform our Author who after erecting a Court in every private man's breast to do it can't find in our Constitution any Court for that purpose Nay Case f. 66. the Judges tell you The King and the Duke are before them as party and party That is Two persons contesting in a proper Court for a Judicial Determination The Lords think so too They oblige the King's Counsel to appear before them and defend their Majesties Right as a part of the Service that they owe the King for their Fees and Wages The Duke often presses them for their Judgment and at last they give it In the third place I observe that this Expedient is of the Lords own finding out and they decree it 'T is true in the Chancellors repeating the Opinion of the Lords there are the words If he would upon which great stress is often laid not only by our Author but others and more then the thing will justly bear The Chancellor says That it was thought by all the Lords that the Title of the said Duke cannot be defeated That is That none of those things objected to it had destroyed the Right of the Duke and his Line for ever And in eschewing the great Inconvenience that may ensue a mean was found to save the King's Honour and Estate and to appease the said Duke if he would c which imports no more then that the mean they agreed upon would be to his satisfaction if he would be contented with reasonable terms This I say is only the repetition of the Chancellor of the result of the Lords Debate But when they come to the Judgment that is general That the said mean shall be taken and this given before any Declaration of the Consent either of the Duke or King to it tho afterwards upon its being opened to them it was with great solemnity agreed unto by them and passed by the King into an Act of Parliament The very Statute of 1 E. 4. allows this Judgment to be good and that by virtue of it and the Agreement upon it H. 6. should have held the Crown for his life tho the very Right were with the D. of York But it being part of the Agreement that the Lords should support it and keep observe and strengthen inasmuch as appertaineth to them all the said things and resist to their power all them that will presume the contrary according to their Estates and Degrees E. 4. gets a solemn Declaration by that Statute that H. 6. had attempted the breaking the Agreement and therefore his dispossessing him was just c. He thought it advisable that the breach of the particular Agreement about the Crown as well as the Title it self should be declared and setled by Parliament And indeed the very nature of all Acts of Recognition and the constant usage of them in almost every Reign shew the Expediency of some publick Declaration to the People that they may know to whom their Obedience is due and imply as much as the Preamble of the Stat. 1 R. 3. speaks in express words which Preamble our Author quotes because it affirms the Title of an Usurper He was an Usurper but one who made as good and wise Laws as any lawful King his Predecessor That the most part of the People can't be sufficiently learned in the Laws and Customs which make out a Right and Title to the Crown And that the Court of Parliament is of such Authority and the People of the Land of such a Nature and Disposition that Manifestation or Declaration of any Truth made by the three Estates of the Realm assembled in Parliament and by Authority of the same makes before all things most faithful and certain quieting of men's minds and removes the occasions of Doubts and seditious Language This is Truth and Reason out of whose mouth soever it comes or for whatever End it was pronounced and in all Justice ought to protect every private Person in his submission to a Power acknowledged in that manner against all the Disturbers of the quiet of our present Settlement I come now to consider the Observations he makes upon the Authorities quoted by my Lord Coke to justifie the gloss made upon the words Seigneour le Roy in the 25 E. 3. The first is Baggot's Case To state this matter fairly as it appears on the Book the Case in short is this Baggot brings an Assize of his Office c. Ivie the Tenant pleads Baggot was an Alien c. and so could not hold the Office c. not being the King's Liege Subject Baggot replies his 9 E. 4. 7. b. 9 E. 4. 9. Letters of Naturalization Ivie sets forth the Act 1 E. 4. which recites at large the Pedigree and Title of E. 4. and the Usurpation of the three Henries and averrs that the Patent was granted by H. 6. one of the Usurpers and so leaves it to the Court to judge whether the Patent was valid in Law Baggot demurrs upon this Rejoynder and Ivie joyns in demurrer Brian of Counsel for Ivie insisted 9 E 4. 11. b. That King E. 4. being restored in his Remitter as Cousin and Heir of King R. 2. the Patent made by K. Henry who was but an Usurper and Intruder was void
and rendring him incapable to Exercise any Government at all Nay If the share and interest which the Body of the People have in the Preservation of the Laws and Constitution and their concern in the welfare of the whole will make it come up but to a doubtful Case If upon this to rescue us from those Confusions to preserve what remained of the Ancient Government and to restore what had been impaired the Representatives of the People did fill the deserted Throne by proclaiming the Authors of our Deliverance King and Queen and the Body of the People for the number of Male-contents is so inconsiderable that there is no need of softning the word upon their account have owned their Title to the Crown submitted and sworn Allegiance to them as their Governors And if it be visible to the whole World that their Government has produced all the good Effects that were proposed or aimed at and they are in as full and quiet Possession of the Throne as ever any Princes were who sat upon it with a repeated Recognition of their Title I cannot but think that every one who will give himself leave calmly to consider must agree That our Case comes up to that which our Author puts It does not cannot appear that any other Person has a better Right to the Crown and the consequence of our Author 's drawing from that will be That every English-man ought to bear Faith and pay Allegiance to Their Majesties who thanks be to God are in so full a Possession of the Throne But not to enter farther into the general Question which I think ought not to be too freely searcht into lest it give Advantage and Encouragement to a sort of People who will be forward out of Wantonness to put things in practice which nothing but the utmost necessity can justifie I conceive I shall effectually answer all that can be materially objected from the Case of Allegiance c. and the Defence of it against our present Settlement if I can maintain this Proposition That where a King is in the full and quiet possession of the Throne and Exercise of the Government has been solemnly proclaimed and freely and voluntarily recognized and submitted unto by the States of the Kingdom as their King has visibly the Power and Strength of the Nation in his hands the Laws have their due course in his Name and all publick justice is administred by those deputed and commissionated by him altho he had no precedent legal Right and that there is another person living who according to the ordinary course of Hereditary Succession has a just claim to the Crown yet the Laws of England do require every private subject to pay their Allegiance to such a King in possession and protect them in their so doing And this I hope will be fully made out by plain Law and all the seeming Objections offered against it from the Laws of the Land answered To save my self and the Reader some trouble hereafter it will be convenient before I enter into the particular consideration of our Author's Arguments and Objections to observe That the Government of England is to be considered in two respects 1st With regard to the Power of Legislature viz. The King and Body of the States who have power over all positive Laws to make new ones according as they in their Judgments shall think expedient and to alter amend and supply the defects of the old ones as they in prudence shall judg the present circumstances of Affairs require 2ly The Executive Power of which the King is supreme and Courts of Justice and other Officers subordinate under him To them it belongs not to deliberate or determine what in their opinions it were fit or reasonable the Law should be and thereupon declare that to be Law but to declare what the Law is as it at present stands in every case coming judicially before them and to put that Law in Execution This is so very obvious that it must without hesitation be agreed to me and so must the consequence that I draw from it That I need not make it any part of the present Question Whether the Acts of one who is called an Usurper in Title that tend immediately to the destruction of the right of the dispossessed Prince be just in themselves so that they ought to continue in force and not be repealed and annulled by a Power competent for that purpose upon the injured Prince's happening to be restored to his Right But whether such Acts being done according to the known legal Forms and Ceremonies by such a Possessor of the Throne as I have before described every private subject may not in good Conscience submit unto and obey them without taking upon him to judge of his Governour 's Title Nay further whether the Laws of the Land do not protect him in so doing and not only so but require it from him I think the Affirmative is agreeable to the Laws And I now come to consider what our Author says to the contrary The first Point he endeavours to make out is That notwithstanding the Opinions of the Eminent Lawyers whom he mentions which I must observe were delivered in the times of Kings whose Titles to the Crown were undoubted so that there was no necessity for their straining the sense of the Law to make it favour their Master's interest and which for ought that ever yet has appeared were never contradicted hitherto by any one of that profession A King de facto is not Seignior le Roy within the Statute of 25 E. 3. I shall through this Discourse take those words to mean one who is in the full and peaceable possession of the Throne and Exercise of the Government with the free submission of the People by their Representatives assembled in a Parliamentary way but wants a Title by proximity of Blood and Hereditary Succession and undertake for the defence of the duty of Allegiance to such an one only and not to any possession without a true Right short of that If any of the proofs which I shall make use of hereafter shall carry it further they will more strongly prove this But I will not answer for more I observe in general upon this Statute 1. That the punishment prescribed by it for the offences now under debate is the utmost to which a temporal Law can reach Death and Disgrace This will make it highly reasonable that the offence should be plain and certain And in the second place That this Statute was made in favour of the Subject that he might be at a certainty what hazards he runs and not be swallowed up in the Gulf before he apprehended himself to be beyond his Banks It made no new offence but was restrictive of the liberty that Judges had taken before of expounding every thing that an angry or jealous Prince did resent as a wound of his Majesty into High Treason This is so well known to all that have