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A88209	A iust reproof to Haberdashers-Hall: or, An epistle writ by Lieut. Colonel John Lilburn, July 30. 1651. to four of the commissioners at Haberdashers Hall, viz. Mr James Russell, M. Edward Winsloe, M William Mellins, and M. Arthur Squib, wherein is set forth their unjust and unrighteous dealing in severall cases; with the relations of the said John Lilburn, and their captiving their understandings to the tyrannical will of Sir Arthur Haslerigge, who hath most unjustly endeavoured a long time together, the exterpation of the family of the said John Lilburn.	Lilburne, John, 1614?-1657.	1651 (1651)	Wing L2127; Thomason E638_12; ESTC R206637	46,507	40

so lost till 1647. when your Petitioner demised his said moity to George Lilburne and George Gray Junio● Esquires for 12 years at certain Rents who by the expence of at least 1500 l. regained the same and quietly enjoyed wrought them till 1648. the said Wray and Metcalf neglecting and refusing to joyn with them in that charge and work That in 1648. by a sad mischance with the losse of almost 60 mens lives the said Seams were fired and lost again but before the end of that year at the vast charge of your Petitioners said tenants they were regained and quietly enjoyed and wrought by them till September 1649 to the great advantage of the State in abating the price of coals and increasing Trade in that River That in September 1649 Sir Arthur Haselrig acting as one of the Committee for Sequestrations with two others viz. Col. Fenwick and Col. Francis Wren in the said county unjustly caused your Petitioners said tenants to be dispossessed of the said Seams of coals and their utensils to be seised taken from them under pretence that the said Seams wholly belonged to the said Wray being a Papist Delinquent and had been sequestred as his estate in 1644. whereas in truth they were not then in being being absolutely drowned That your Petitioner being then in that county by his Councell humbly moved that Committee before they sequestred his estate that either the said Wray who was then also in Court might shew forth his Title and Evidence your Petitioner and his Tenants being in quiet possession or that the said Order for the sequestration of the said 9 and 5 quarter Seams in 1644. might be produced But Mr. Wray could neither produce any Evidence nor Sir Arthur any such Order And yet your Petitioners said estate was presently sequestred and his Tenants ejected and dispossessed although he doth confidently believe that neither Sir Arthur nor colonel Fenwick had any legall right to act there as Sequestrators having not taken the Oath appointed by Ordinance of Parliament of 27 May 1644. for all members whatsoever of Committees of Sequestration to take before they intermeddle at all with Sequestration and two of the legal Committee of Sequestration there viz. col Milford and Rich. Lilburne Esquire did enter their Protest in the Committee Book against the unjust actings of the said Sir Arthur Haselrig to which illegall practices of Sir Arthur the major part of the Commissioners at Haberdashers Hall refused to suffer your Petitioner to examine his witnesses to That your Petitioner appealed which was upon the 28 June 1650. to the Commissioners for compounding and before them was ready to make his title appear by good evidence and particularly by the said Wrays own depositions in Chancery taken about 9 years ago in a cause then there depending about the said colliery where he positively swears he hath but a fourth part but in February last when this business came to hearing the Major part of the Commissioners rejected Wrays said depositions in Chancery and would not suffer them to be read The first time that ever depositions in Chancery were refused for good evidence especially against the party swearing them in any Court of Equity in England that ever your Petitioner could hear of That thereupon by the Order of the said Commissioners your Petitioner preferred a new Petition which was upon the of February 1650. before them setting forth his title to and possession of the said moiety of the said Seams and sent above 200 miles for 7 or 8 substantial witnesses several of which have lived a long time upon the place and were workers about the said Colliery and examined them and staid them here many days after at his own charge that they might be cross examined for the State And after obtained * * As appears by their order dated publication in the cause by consent of the States Solicitor and a report of the state of the case and got a day of hearing appointed and an Order that Mr. Wray should be present and produce his deeds and evidences at the hearing but the said Wray though duely summoned appeared not the first day nor the second nor third appointed days a a Which several days of hearing by the Commssioners orders were to be on Thursday next come 14 days after the 21 May 1651. and in three weeks next after the 22 May 1651. and upon 5 June 1651. they order that Wray shall forthwith appear to the hearing upon notice of that Order of hearting till your Petitioner got him commanded up by the Councel of State b b whose Order or Warrant is dated the 10. June 1651. That when the said Wray was come up and should have brought his deeds into Court and gone to a speedy hearing according to your Petitioners expectation and several Orders of the Commissioners for that end the Major part of them ordered the said Wray six weeks longer day to bring in his deeds and to attend the hearing and that in the mean time he might examin new witnesses which is held as your Petitioner is informed a most dangerous course in all other Courts of Justice and the mother of much perjury and which three worthy members there viz. Mr. Moyer Mr. Barners and Mr. Moor in open Court cried shame on but were overruled by the influence of Sir Arthur being the principal instrument of placing the said Commissioners in their power as your Petitioner by their dealings with him having just cause to judge hath more prevalency with them then the rules of Justice and right as in part may appear by the Copy of his Petition delivered unto them hereunto annexed The Premises considered and for that your Petitioner hath now for almost two full years been most injuriously and arbitrarily thrust out and as unjustly kept out of his rightfull estate and possession without ever having any pretence of title set up against him the clear profit whereof by Sir Arthur Haselrig 's own Certificate amounts to 15 l. a day and all that while no piece of a proof of the States Title offered or produced and in regard Sir Arthur Haselrig hath put certain of his Officers and Soldiers into the possession of the said Colemynes which are but unskilfull Collyers and as your Petitioner is lately informed do work the Mynes very foully and injuriously and are like to destroy them and so will indanger your Petitioners utter undoing in point of breach of Covenant with his Landlord John Hedworth Esquire son and heir of the aforesaid Sir John Hedworth the Inheritor of the said Mynes Your Petitioner therefore most humbly prays the Justice of the Parliament that he may either be restored to his possession upon good security given to the Parliament to be answerable for the profits in case hereafter the said Mynes shall appear to be duely sequestrable Or otherwise that the Commissioners for compounding may be commanded by your Order forth with to hear and determine the whole

A IUST REPROOF TO Haberdashers-Hall OR An Epistle writ by Lieut. Colonel John Lilburn July 30. 1651. to four of the Commissioners at Haberdashers Hall viz. Mr. James Russel M. Edward Winsloe M William Mollins and M. Arthur Squib wherein is set forth their unjust and unrighteous dealing in severall Cases with the relations of the said John Lilburn and their Captiving their understandings to the Tyrannical will of Sir Arthur Haslerigge who hath most unjustly endeavoured a long time together the exterpation of the Family of the said John Lilburn Isai 29.20 21. For the terrible one is brought to nought and the Scorner is consumed and all that watch for iniquity are cut off That make a man an offender for a word and lay a snare for him that reproveth in the gate and turn aside the just for a thing of nought GENTLEMEN MY serious eyeing and beholding for divers months together your most unjust partial and visible combining way of proceedings against some of my nighest relations hath filled me with so much detestation and indignation against your injustice that my heart hath even b●●end within me and I have with my self had much ado to forbear thus long to speak more plainly to you by my pen then was safe for me to do at your barre although I have there as you all very well know been very free But yet to avoyd if it were possible by all rational and ingenuous men to be judged turbulent and irrational I have rather bridled my passion and indignation and in a quiet sober and moderate way endeavoured by Petitions to the Parliament to ease and redress the grievances of my self and my relations but some of you with violence reproaches and much falshoods interposing to hinder our just expected remedy the particulars of which by and by I shall more fully ●int unto you which hath had too great an influence to retard our just proceedings so that although my self and others have done what in us lyes for divers days by-past to get two petitions full of justice and truth read against you yet cannot and although you your selves directed and bid me petition against you yet finding that you are to the purpose netled at my putting in execution your own desires and withall behinde my back to the purpose reproach me and do what in you lies to bereave me of all ordinary and legal means to help my self and my relations and thereby force me to betake my self to extraordinary which is my pen my last and unwilling refuge In the name strength and power of the Lord God Almighty have at you and if I perish I perish and therefore before I come to the main combat give me leave to send out these Forlornes First That I plead against Sir Arthur Haslerigge a man unto whom as to me by your actions you seem to have sold your selves to be his slaves and vassals in all cases whatever who I do over hath endeavoured for these several years together the extirpation and total destruction of my whole Family and al those in the County where they live that have wisht them wel and that for no other cause but for their honesty and integrity and because they will not be his professed slaves as other people are all which I shall to you and the world endeavor to demonstrate thus First my Father Richard Lilburn and my Unkle George Lilburn Esquires with all their sons have been well affected to the Parliament and all of them that have been fit for souldiers freely and faithfully adventured their lives for the Parliament without spot on blemish save my unfortunate youngest brother Henry Lilburn who yet visibly was honest enough in the eies of his chief Commanders till he came under the command of Sir Arthur Haselrig and my Father and Uncle in the Kings time before the Parliament were the onely two Gentlemen in all the County of Durham that ever I could hear of that durst oppose the Kings Will and Pleasure in the point of ship-money and the Bishop of Durham and his under Priests called Deans and Chapters will and pleasure in point of innovations and when the Parliament came with all their strength adhered to them and were not willing to be rid upon nor implicitly led against their understandings by the power of any great ones whatsoever that under the Parliament had the chief Government of the County of Durham it being a Bastard as it were to all the Counties of the Nation having yet never enjoyed that right and priviledge to send either Knights or Burgesses to Parliament to represent it or speak for it and therefore was subject always to have some great one or other to domineer over it And upon the late contest betwixt the Parliament and Army my eldest brother Col. Robert Lilburn was thought the fittest by the chief Officers of the Army to be sent down into his own Countrey to secure New Castle for the interest of the Army which he did effectually and honorably like a Soldier and whilst he staid there governed it in Justice honesty and peace but was in short time privatly undermined and worm-eaten out of his governmentship by Sir Arthur Haselrig who as may be easily demonstrated had itching fingers after some poor Ahabs Vineyard or other and it may be in his own thoughts could neither by Law nor equity come by it unless he could attain to be governour of that Town and in pomp and glory with his Soldiers round about him sit as Judge and party in his own case to over awe thereby if it were possible both Jury and Judge that so by interest and power he might get that which before neither by Law nor equity he could obtain all or the most part of which was to the purpose shortly manifested in poor Mr. Collinwoods case divers hundred pounds per-annum thick and then to disinable him and his posterity for ever to lift up their heads against Sir Arthur when times as to him shall mend to recover their Inheritance again he got him put into the Act for sale of Delinquents estates for all the rest behind but as to me it seems being by my self and Mr. John Musgrave's pens pursued for his injustice he thought it pollicy to be the means of getting him out again least it might be made use of by either of us to his suine but yet in the words of the Order there is such a clause as may be a sufficient rod over the Collinwoods back to keep him in awe for so much as talking of Sir Arthurs unjust proceedings with him I say in order to this and the like my brother unawares was by Sir Arthur undermined and thrust out of his government without as he hath often told me as ever having so much as a complement from Sir Arthur for it and my brother like a soft and quiet spirited man gives way unto it without so much as one Ruffle And my Father and Uncle having had former acquaintance with Sir

matter and admit Wrays Depositions in Chancery for evidence against himself or else in case of further delay that the said Sir Arthur Haselrig and the other two that arbitrarily took away your Petitioners possession with all those Officers and Commanders of Sir Arthurs that now possess and enjoy the profits of the said Collyery may forthwith be ordered and compelled by your Honors to give your Petitioner good security to answer him the profits of the said Collyery his dammages and expences in case the said Collyery be judged your Petitioners or that you will declare that without the check or controul of this honourable House or the Committee of Indempnity he may have his remedy at Law against the said Sir Arthur and all whatsoever under him or that have joyned with him to act illegally and arbitrarily against your Petitioner and his said Tenants and that you will take care to maintain the honor and dignity of Parliament which doth consist in doing Justice and right without respect of persons by dealing with Sir Arthur according to his demerit in case your Petitioner shall fully make it appear to your Honors or some of your Committees that Sir Arthur hath meerly acted arbitrarily and without all shadow of Law or Justice in taking your Petitioners right and propriety from him himself and his own privat gain and interest being principally at the bottom of these his proceedings And he shall pray c. Josiah Primat To the honourable the Commissioner for Compounding The humble Petition of Josiah Primatt Citizen and Leather-seller of London Sheweth THAT the Colliery of Harraton in the County of Durham consisting of four Seams of Coal distinguished by the names of the half yard three quarter five quarter and nine quarter seam of Coal and that one moity of the five and nine quarter seams of Coal in the said Colliery were wrought under your Petitioners title one of them until 1640. and the other until 1642. and from that time both the said seams of Coals lay drowned and unwrought until 1647. at which time your Pettioners tenants viz Mr. George Lilburn and Mr. George Grey the younger as to one moiety and the tenants of one Commondale and one Metcalf as to another fourth part of the seams of coal undertook to regain and work the said 5. or 9. quarter seams of coals and by the expence of neer 2000 l. they did regain and work the same until May 1648. at which time the mines were fired and above 50. persons lives lost thereby and within two monthes after by a flood the said mines were drowned again and by the end of that year were regained again by the vast expence of your Petioners said tennants George Lilburne and George Grey who enjoyed the same until September 1649. And within two moneths after were sequestred by sir Arthur Haselrige c. and by Souldiers violently taken from your Petitioners said tenants meerly on t of pretence that they were sequestred in 1644. as belonging to one Thomas Wray of Beamish in in the said County a Papist Delinquent That before the day of sequestration your Petitioner went down into the County of Durham and by his Councel desired the Committee there that the said Mr. Wray might shew hi● title and evidence to the said mines or that any order in 1644. for sequestring the same as belonging to the said Mr. Wray might be produced but upon the day of hearing before the Committee of Durham no such order could be produced and it would not be permitted by sir Arthur Haselrige that the said Wray should shew any title thereunto as is already deposed before your Honors by divers witnesses then present That your Petitioner thereupon appealed to your Honors and after long attendance comming to a hearing about the seven and twentieth of February last the deposition of the said Wray in Chancery not being allowed to be used although in October 1641. he positively swore that he had no interest at all in the 5. and 9. quarter coal but a fourth part which oath in any Court in England ought not to be denied for good evidence against himself and the depositions of other witnesses being laid aside as parties although they offered their oathes that they had no interest therein in Law or equity and there was no writing purporting the same Your Petitioner thereupon was necessitated to withdraw his Petition and to present a new Petition according to your order stating his title unto the 5. and 9. quarter seams of coal and his possession thereof and to send above two hundred miles for several witnesses to prove the same and your committee of Durham and Mr. Eowle were ordered to take a special care of the Common-wealths Interest therein and Mr. Wray was ordered to be at the hearing and to have monies allowed him for his charges and to bring with him all his deeds and evidences concerning the same That your Petitioners witnesses being examined and according to your Order publication had and a report of the state of the case being drawn by Mr. Reading you were pleased to appoint a day for hearing the case and to order that Mr. Wray should be present at the same to produce his deeds and evidences and he not coming a second day of hearing was appointed and the said Wray ordered again to be there and he not coming it was pretended that the reason was because he had not a licence from the Councel of State to come to London although your own Officers had for about two moneths been ordered to procure such a licence whereupon your Petitioner undertook to procure such a licence and in one afternoon did procure the same and sent it down by the Post That now the said Wray having been come to London above a week your Petitioner expected his hearing according to your several Orders and that Mr. Wray should have brought his evidences into Court but in steed hereof on Friday last he findes Mr. Wray Petitioning for three moneths longer time but states no title at all nor produceth any deed according to your several Orders in the said case nor names any deed of any date that he would have time to prove and at last makes (*) (*) Whose oath is dated the 27. of June 1651. Oath that he hath material witness to examine but names not unto what and being asked who they were he said in open Court he knew not yet contrary to the rules of all Courts of Justice in England that Affi-davit of the said Wray was admitted by your honors as sufficient to give him a longer time That your Petitioner humbly offers it to you that by confession of all parties you took the said 5. and 9. quarter seams of coals out of your Petitioners possession in 1649. and that in neer two years since no proof is offered on the behalf of the State that the State was ever in possession of the said seams of coal by sequestration which ought to have been upon

record if it had been so and that your Petitioner hath proved by many sufficient witnesses that the 5. and 9. quarter seams of coal was never wrought from 1642. till 1647. When they were won and wrought by your Petitioner and his tennants and others claiming from Metcalf and Commondale and that in such cases by your own rules you do take away no mans possession until the States title thereunto appears And if it be doubtful you suffer the Possessor to enjoy it upon security He further offers That in case the said 9. and 5. quarter seams of coal should by ill management be drowned fired or the Pits wrought out a vast sum of money would not recover the same and he knows not how he shall be repaired He therefore humbly prays That he may either be restored to his possession upon proof hereof now before you at least upon security which you do in ordinary Cases upon an Affidavit onely Or otherwise that his Case may be heard forth with no Title ever yet being set up against him And your Petitioner shall ever pray c. Josiah Primatt And to make it further appear that it was not the nine and five quarter seams of cole that was under the pretence of sequestrations in 1644. but only the half yard and three quarter seams of coles take a copy of an Order made at Durham the 13 of August 1649. the Original I have by me all writ with Master Gilpin the Clerks own hand Dunelm Die Lunae 13 Augusti 1649. By the Committee of Sequestrations for this County VPon the hearing of the cause depending betwixt Thomas Wrey George Lilburn and George Grey Esquires touching the Colyeries at Harraton it appeared to the said Committee that the half yard and three quarter Cole was wrought for the use of the said Master * * And yet I have seen two depositions taken by Master Cary that contradicts this Order and saith positively that then one M. VVilliam Fenwick of Harraton farmed the said half yard and three quarter seams of cole of Master VVrey and wrought them upon his own accompt and that Sir William Armine c. onely sequestred Wrays rent of the said smal seams and by bargain and sale bought divers 100 Chaldron of the said coles of the said Fenwick for part of which he paid him ready money and the rest remains unpaid for at this day Wrey or his assignes and for no other person in the year 1644. and that in the same year the said Colyery was sequestred by Sir William Armyn for the use of the State and the said Sequestration was not at any time since taken off It is therefore thought fit and so ordered by the said Committee that all the said parties shall produce their writings and evidences touching their several titles and claims either from Master Primate of London or any other person and their several witnesses to be examined by the said Committee upon Tuesday the eleventh day of September next coming And that the present tenants or occupiers of the said Colyeries shall continue the working of the said Colyeries in the mean time as tenants to the State And that Lieutenant Edward Shepherdson shall forthwith enter unto the said Colyery and take possession thereof for the use of the State till the title shall be determined and tried and shall take true and perfect accompt of all the Coles that are or shall be wrought in the said Colyeries and of all the charges and disbursments to be laid out and disoursed in the working thereof during that time And the said Lieutenant Edward Shepherdson to have such reasonable allowance for his pains as this Committee shall think fit Vera Copia Ex. Per me Isaa Gilpin Cl. Com. And because by a Member of Parliament that was by in the Speakers Chamber the other day I am credibly informed that Master Winslow was with the Speaker there and endeavored very much to render my Unckle and M. George Grey to be two base fellows according to the contents of the said false and unjust Certificate of the foresaid pretended Committee of Durham and said what else of him he pleased and indeavored very much to reprorch me by accasing me of indeavouring to divide the Army amongst themselves and the Parliament amongst themselves and now the Commissioners amongst themselves by setting three against four and that it was a false averment of us to say there was publication in the case I shall therefore disprove that fully only I desire this may be observed that Master Cary your Examinor upon our last Petition examined all our witnesses upon interrogatories and it was your Order that commanded our depositions out of his hands which Order compared with your other Orders for three several days of hearing is sufficient with another that either is or ought in your Books to be entred to prove there was publication in the case but before I come to that let me tell you it is but a poor guilty shift to put off the reading of Master Primates Petition because either George Lilburn George Grey or Iohn Lilburn is so and so therefore it is not ●t to read Master Primats Petition and to do him justice and right for Master Primats Petition is either true or false and you have either do●e him injustice or you have not however let us come to a fair and equal hearing And I do here aver I dare ingage my life to prove the whole Petition against you but seeing you have by your daily reproaches put me to it by calling my Vnckle cheat c. at your open Table upon Thursday last in the case of the Lady Tong I do aver that you are four of the most unjustest and unworthiest men that ever the Parliament made in one place Judges in England and that you are fit for nothing but to be spewed out of all humane society by all ingenious rational men and that for the injustice you have acted and the dishonour you have done the Parliament in your places you deserve a sharper and severer punishment from them then King Alfred gave to those forty four Judges he hanged in one year for their injustice whose petty crimes in comparison of yours are recorded at the latter end of the Law Book called the Mirror of Iustice you deserving for example sake all circumstances considered rather to have your skins flead over your ears and stopt full of straw and hung up in some publique place to deter others from doing that multiplied grosse wickedness that you have committed in a short time and so now I come to your forementioned Order the copy of which thus followeth By the Commissioners for compounding c. 28 Martis 1651. VPon motion made by M. John Lilburn alledging that M Josiah Primat hath severall witnesses in Town which can give testimony concerning the Colyery of Harraton and desires that the said witnesses may be speedily examined here in Town It is ordered that M. Fowle do examine the

the Book of the said Commissioners for Sequestrations And he further maketh Oath that upon ths said eleventh day of June last he together with the said George Gray desired the said Commissionerss for Sequestrations that in obedience to both the said Orders they would set a time to examine witnesses in both the said cases but they could not prevail with them to set any time and this deponent did upon the eighteenth day of June last together with the said George Gray again attend the said Commissioners for Sequestrations to appoint a time to examine witnesses according to the two Orders aforesaid that he delivered to them but they could not prevail with them to appoint any time but Master Dalavall one of them said they knew what they had to do so that this deponent and the said George Gray waited for their obedience to the said Order untill the time limited in the said Order for a return from the said commissioners for Sequestrations in the said County was elapsed and they would do nothing therein Jur. Coram Commissariis 9. July 1651. Ralph Gray R. M. Vera copia Here followeth the Copy of a third Affidavit of Mr George Gray's to prove the goods to be John Hedworth's Esquire George Gray of Harraton in the County of Durham Gentleman aged sixty eight years or thereabouts maketh Oath That whereas by a Certificate from the Commissioners for Sequestrations in the County of Durham dated 14 Novembris 1650. it is alledged that upon an Order made by the said Commissioners dated March 19 1649. whereby Colonel Hacker was Authorized to distrein the goods of this deponent for some arrears of Rents pretended to be due by this deponent to one John Jakson a delinquent that thereupon this deponent upon or about the time of the making of the abovesaid Order did cunningly and fraudulently pretend that he had assigned the cattell so distreined unto John Hedworth Esquire this deponents son in law and that this was done in colour to defraud the State to whom the said Rents were due as is alledged in the said Certificate Now this deponent deposeth and saith That the goods nor any of them so taken or distreined by the Order of the said Commissioners upon the grounds at Harraton or thereabout pretended to be the goods of this deponent were not at the time of the said distresse nor had been for the space of twelve months before that time any of this deponents goods neither had this deponent any title or interest in any of them but that the said cattell were most of them really the proper goods of the said John Hedworth Esquire and some of them belonged to some other neighbours who never yet got them again to this deponents knowledge Jur. Coram Commissariis 9. April 1651. George Gray R. M. Vera copia Now laying these few things together which yet are but a part of what I have to complain of let me appeale to your consciences as not long since I did at your open B●● whether Sir Arthur Haselrig and his under Commissioners or petty slaves in the Countrey have not dealt worse with us then ever wicked Ahab dealt with poor Naboth who scorned to take away his vineyard from him before he had proffered him a better for it or the value in money but Sir Arthur c. hath taken away our poffession by force and violence without so much as ever proffering us one peny of consideration therefore or ever so much as setting up a man of straw by way of title against us and hath dealt with us so that as I then told you so I aver now it had been a happiness for us when we fell into Sir Arthur's hands we had fallen into the hands of theeves and robbers upon the high way for then we could have raised the hue and cry after them and have had some sport at least for our money and goods or if it had been done in the day time we could at law have recovered our money of the Hundred where the robbery was committed whereas now God knows we are by Sir Arthur Strafford like expresly denied the benefit of the Law our inheritance and birthright and by you whom the Parliament hath appointed in all such cases as now I complain of to do us justice and right denied all the rules of justice conscience and equity and by you our blood-suck'd and exposed to pining by little and little and made by you ten times worse and not better by a constant attendance upon you for your Orders and then when they are got to ride above 200 miles to serve them in the Countrey and there dance attendance for their answers and then post up above 200. miles again to make Affidavit of the serving of them and then to wait upon you till your leisure pleaseth to vouchsafe to be told of your Under-Commissioners contempts of your publick Orders upon the private instructions you send them and then upon the motion to struggle for a new Order like horses in a mill you will just go round and give only in effect what was in the former after a moneths attendance to our vast expence and then make us stay a week or ten dayes sometimes before you will vouchsafe to set four of your hands to it some of your four selves having got a trick to carp and pick quarrels at any orders you like not though made according to the publick Vote that you are at the debate of yea somtimes when three hands are to an Order a fourth of you will except against it and make a new one to be drawn and then in case of rubs when it comes to be spoken unto an answer is ready that you are full of businesse and things must come in course and so there is delay upon delay ad insinitum by means of which your Court is become a greater torment and purgatory than the Pope's Nay this is not all for as I once averr'd at your Bar so I do the same now that by Sir Arthur's dealing so arbitrarily and tyrannically with us to rob us of our Lands Goods Estates and Inheritances at his will and pleasure he commits higher treason then Strafford did if destruction and levelling of properties subversion of laws and exercising of an arbitrary tyrannicall power be treason For alas poor Strafford did what he did to Richard Earl of Corck and to the Lord Mount Norris and to Thomas Lord Dillon and to Adam Viscount Loftus and to George Earl of Kildare c. in a Prerogative time when there was little hopes or expectation of seeing a Parliament to redresse the peoples grievances and yet for all that Strafford in those times did he had the then common received countenance of Authority viz. the Kings Commissions who was then commonly reputed and stiled the Fountain of Law and Justice But Sir Arthur Haslerig and his Associats hath destroyed and levelled our proprieties and in our case subverted the Laws and Liberties of Enland