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A94872 Sir Francis Seymor his honourable, and worthy speech, spoken in the high court of Parliament shewing what dangers doe insue by want of priviledge of Parliament. And how the splendor of His Majestyes glory is eclipsed with toleration of Iesuits, seminary priests, and bad ministers who still have abiding amongst us. As also, such who have betrayed the King unto himselfe, to bring the subjects under slavery. Whereby the King can neither be preserved in honour, nor the Common-wealth in safety whereunto is annexed, Sir Walter Earle his paraphrase, concerning Bishop White. Seymour, Francis, Baron Seymour of Trowbridge, 1590?-1664. 1641 (1641) Wing T2321; Thomason E199_35; ESTC R9846 1,732 9

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SIR FRANCIS SEYMOR HIS HONOURABLE AND WORTHY SPEECH Spoken in the High Court of PARLIAMENT SHEWING What Dangers doe insue by want of Priviledge of Parliament And how the Splendor of His Majestyes Glory is Eclipsed With toleration of Iesuits Seminary priests and bad Ministers who still have abiding amongst Us. As also such who have betrayed the King unto himselfe to bring the Subjects under slavery Whereby the King can neither be preserved in Honour nor the Common-wealth in safety Whereunto is annexed Sir Walter Earle his Paraphrase concerning Bishop WHITE London Printed for W. H. 1641. An Honourable SPEECH Spoken in the high Court of Parliament THis great Counsell as Tully said of the Senate of Rome is the soule of the Common-wealth wherein one may heare see all the Greevances of the subjects and in the Multitude of such Counsellors is safety Amongst whom the greatest priviledge is liberty of speech And therefore J humbly offer it unto you to take into consideration what wrong hath bin done herein what Judgments hath bin against the Members of this House for speaking nothing but what concerned the good of the Commonwealth Which said Judgments hath beene against Law and Reason and without president What Law or Reason is there that a Parliament which is the highest of all Courts should be questioned by inferiour Courts and Iudges as if the Common-pleas should question the Kings be●ch or the Chancery be questioned by either of them Perhaps the Authors of it have nature to pleade for themselves which indeed teacheth every man to preserve himselfe This perhaps makes them advance that those members which otherwise must condemne themselves And such things have bin done to maintaine their proceedings as not only trench upon the liberties of Parliament but also upon the liberties of the whole Common-wealth wherein I had rather suffer for speaking the truth then the truth should suffer for want of my speaking Where was ever more Piety in a Prince and more loyalty in Subjects and yet what Common-wealth ever suffered like this His Majesty is the Sunne which though it ever shines alike in it selfe gloriously yet by reason of Clouds many times it doth not so appeare and if his Majesty by reason of bad members may not appeare in such splendor let us labour to cleere those Clouds what will it availe us if the Fountaine be cleere if the streames that issue there-from be not so also I will instance in some particulars If we looke into the face of Religion that is out-faced and such as heretofore durst not appeare come boldly into our houses as if they had a concealed toleration I meane the Seminary Priests who though they have lesse power yet have they not lesse malice but more so long as the Pope hath his Agents amongst us See we not how they go to Somerset house and to S. James with too much countenance These are the enemies of the church without the church I wish we had none with in it who pull down churches and I am sure they build none up againe Amongst which are out Non-residents who o're-sway all by worldly preferments and many livings Christ made it the Touch-stone of Peters love unto him to feed his sheepe and lambes but these men looke at their owne private gaines not taking pains for their own double honours which are daily gotten What thing is there more against Reason and Nature then for one man to have above one wife and for one shepheard to have more then one sheepefold These are dumbe dogs that cannot speak a word for God of whom the people may seeke spirituall food but can find none Others there are that preach but it is not the Gospell but themselves that the King hath an unlimited power and the Subject noe propriety in their goods These are bad Divines and worse and more ignorant States-men who under the name of Puritans condemne all who truly professe Religion There are surely many who under a fo me of godlinesse cloake impiety but to teach that a man can be too holy is the Doctrine of Divels And now for feare I have bin over-long I will speake of the Subjects Liberties wherein J remember what was confirmed unto us by the word of a King and God forbid that I or any other should imagine that the King did otherwise then he granted us But some there be that have betrayed the King unto himselfe and so committed worse treason then those who betray him to others who tell him his Prerogative is above all Lawes and that his subjects are but slaves whereby the King is neither preserved in Honour nor the Common-wealth in safety FINIS Sir Walter Earle His Paraphrase fitly spoken concerning Bishop White in a former Parliament QVi color albus erat nunc est contarius albo In English thus The colour that was white is now turn'd blacke For Bishop White hath sold his Orthodox Bookes and bought Iesuits that Bishop White may goe arme in arme with Mountague FINIS