christ_n what_o other_o thing_n be_v thâ_n then_o to_o envy_v at_o the_o benefit_n of_o christ_n bestow_v upon_o christian_n thus_o far_o câstalio_n to_o this_o former_a learned_a man_n i_o may_v adjoine_v the_o authority_n of_o m._n perâins_v herein_o though_o at_o other_o time_n he_o may_v seem_v partly_o to_o fluctuare_fw-la and_o waver_v iâ_n hit_v judgement_n touch_v this_o point_n hâ_n thus_o plain_o write_v a_o sentence_n ãâã_d where_o by_o i_o allege_v 26._o allege_v in_o his_o reform_a catholic_a p._n 26._o because_o goâ_n give_v man_n commandment_n to_o repent_v and_o believe_v therefore_o they_o have_v power_n to_o repeââ_n and_o believe_v ââ_o believe_v v_o by_o supr_fw-la p._n ââ_o god_n with_o his_o commanââment_n give_v grace_n that_o the_o thing_n prescribe_v may_v be_v do_v molinaus_n the_o learned_a protestant_n be_v so_o full_a in_o the_o doctrine_n of_o freewill_n as_o that_o peter_n martyr_n rebuke_v he_o therefore_o in_o these_o word_n 99_o word_n in_o his_o 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be_v lose_v ãâã_d make_v guilty_a unto_o damnation_n and_o m._n robert_n rollock_n once_o rectour_n of_o the_o university_n of_o edinburgh_n a_o man_n muââ_n esteem_v by_o beza_n thus_o write_v â4_n write_v in_o his_o book_n of_o lecture_n upon_o the_o epist_n of_o paul_n to_o the_o colossians_n lect._n 6._o c._n â_o p._n â4_n ãâã_d tell_v thou_o that_o notwithstanding_o thou_o be_v redeem_v and_o by_o this_o blood_n of_o christ_n fâeeâ_n from_o sin_n and_o death_n yet_o if_o thou_o tame_a delight_n in_o sin_n the_o great_a shall_v be_v thy_o damnation_n now_o to_o come_v to_o other_o common_o style_v lutheran_n and_o to_o passover_o gânova_n passover_o ân_v theolog._n caluânist_n l._n â_o arâ_n 14._o who_o there_o reprove_v caluin_n zanâhius_n and_o the_o divine_n of_o gânova_n conradus_n schlussenburg_n 331._o schlussenburg_n in_o loâiâ_n theolog._n pag_n 188._o â_o 331._o haffânreffensis_n professor_n in_o the_o university_n of_o tube_v 5._o tube_v in_o disput_fw-la 7_o ex_fw-la epist_n pauli_n ad_fw-la cor._n posteriori_fw-la parte_fw-la thâfi_n 5._o rungius_n professor_n in_o the_o university_n of_o wittenberg_n 6â_n wittenberg_n in_o epitome_n colloq_fw-la montisbelgar_a p._n 47._o &_o 6â_n jacoââ_n andraeas_n 650._o andraeas_n in_o disput_fw-la 17._o pro_fw-la sanctissimo_fw-la libro_fw-la concord_n disput_fw-la 10._o p._n 650._o gesnerus_fw-la professor_n in_o wâtâmberg_n and_o diverse_a other_o learned_a follower_n of_o luther_n all_o maintain_v ãâã_d uncertainty_n of_o salvation_n we_o ãâã_d mclancthon_n thus_o express_o to_o ãâã_d âo_o 112._o âo_o melanctâ_n in_o council_n theolog._n pag._n 112._o excidunt_fw-la homines_fw-la à _fw-la gratia_fw-la etc._n etc._n man_n do_v fall_v from_o grace_n and_o do_v loose_v their_o justify_n grace_v etc._n etc._n in_o like_a sort_n â24_n sort_n in_o the_o harmony_n of_o confâssions_n in_o english_a pag._n â24_n the_o confession_n of_o auspurg_n condemn_v the_o doctrine_n of_o certainty_n of_o salvation_n for_o anabaptisme_n and_o according_o 318._o according_o in_o his_o disputat_fw-la theolog._n p._n 317._o &_o 318._o loâechius_n doctor_n and_o professor_n in_o the_o university_n of_o restocke_n defend_v our_o doctrine_n herein_o and_o he_o allege_v in_o proof_n thereof_o the_o confession_n of_o augusta_n and_o diverse_a text_n of_o scripture_n charge_v the_o defendour_n of_o the_o contrary_a doctrine_n with_o anabapticticall_a error_n in_o like_a sort_n kempnitius_n write_v thus_o of_o this_o point_n 19â_n point_n kâmpnit_fw-la in_o his_o exâm_n council_n trident._n print_v aâno_fw-mi 1578._o part_n 2._o p._n 193._o &_o vide_fw-la part_n â_o pag_n 19â_n true_a lively_a justify_v faith_n may_v be_v lose_v and_o the_o party_n make_v guilty_a of_o eternal_a damnation_n final_o not_o to_o charge_v your_o memory_n with_o a_o surplusage_n of_o the_o learned_a protestant_n judgement_n herein_o the_o protestant_a divine_n of_o saxony_n do_v in_o their_o public_a confession_n thus_o teach_v â33_n teach_v in_o the_o harmony_n oâ_n confession_n in_o english_a p._n 80._o &_o p._n â33_n it_o be_v manifest_a that_o who_o be_v regenerate_v etc._n etc._n be_v again_o reject_v by_o god_n ând_v make_v subject_n to_o eternal_a punishment_n and_o further_o 195._o further_o harmony_n etc._n etc._n p._n 195._o justification_n and_o regeneration_n may_v be_v shake_v of_o and_o we_o lose_v eternal_a ââfe_n thus_o much_o touch_v the_o most_o learned_a protestant_n in_o this_o matter_n of_o vncerââty_n of_o election_n and_o predestination_n enthusiastus_n indeed_o i_o rest_v half_o amaze_v at_o the_o pregnant_a testimony_n of_o so_o many_o oâ_n our_o own_o learned_a brethren_n in_o defence_n of_o this_o your_o doctrine_n and_o i_o free_o confess_v i_o will_v never_o have_v believe_v that_o so_o many_o of_o they_o and_o of_o such_o eminency_n have_v with_o so_o strong_a a_o endeavour_n maintain_v the_o same_o but_o that_o i_o fyââ_n you_o so_o punctual_a and_o precise_a in_o allege_v their_o 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âf_n he_o since_o in_o this_o late_a sense_n god_n ââould_v be_v the_o cause_n and_o author_n of_o his_o ââckednes_n whereas_o his_o wickedness_n be_v ââom_n himself_o and_o so_o if_o he_o be_v wicked_a ââen_o god_n ordain_v he_o to_o the_o day_n of_o evil_a that_o be_v to_o the_o day_n of_o punishment_n ând_v this_o he_o do_v for_o himself_o that_o be_v for_o ãâã_d own_o glory_n the_o like_a say_n by_o anaââgy_n may_v be_v use_v of_o prince_n who_o may_v ãâã_d a_o restrain_v sense_n be_v say_v to_o ordain_v malefactor_n to_o punishment_n ãâã_d yet_o the_o prince_n be_v neither_o willing_a âor_a author_n of_o their_o subject_n offence_n this_o our_o exposition_n of_o the_o former_a place_n ãâã_d so_o natural_a and_o genuine_a as_o that_o it_o be_v acknowledge_v for_o true_a by_o 404._o by_o in_o his_o decade_n in_o english_a p._n 404._o builinger_n 438._o builinger_n in_o method_n theolog._n pag._n 438._o hiperius_n and_o philp_n 1â7_n philp_n ân_v his_o disput_n theolog._n de_fw-fr providenâia_n ãâã_d sect_n 1â7_n marbachius_n all_o learned_a protestant_n enthusiastus_n what_o answer_v arminius_n can_v be_v give_v to_o that_o at_o least_o seem_a pregnant_a text_n 9_o text_n rom._n 9_o have_v not_o the_o potter_n 554._o potter_n m._n willeâ_n iâ_n synop_n 554._o power_n over_o the_o clay_n even_o of_o the_o same_o lump_n to_o make_v one_o vessel_n unto_o honour_n and_o another_o unto_o dishonour_n what_o if_o god_n witâing_v to_o show_v his_o wrath_n etc._n etc._n suffer_v with_o long_a patience_n the_o vessel_n of_o wrath_n ordain_v to_o ãâ¦ã_o now_o this_o place_n seem_v to_o ââict_v ãâã_d god_n even_o without_o any_o provision_n ãâ¦ã_o ordain_v some_o man_n be_v ãâã_d the_o mass_n or_o lump_n of_o mankind_n ãâã_d damnation_n arminius_n i_o will_v be_v partly_o silent_a herein_o &_o aâstin_n with_o some_o learned_a brethren_n of_o ãâã_d own_o &_o the_o apostle_n himself_o shall_v ãâã_d be_v thereto_o for_o i_o and_o first_o i_o ãâã_d austin_n to_o paraphrase_n this_o text_n in_o ãâã_d word_n sixtum_fw-la word_n epist_n 100l_n ad_fw-la paulinum_n &_o epist_n 105._o ad_fw-la sixtum_fw-la haec_fw-la massa_n etc._n etc._n if_o this_o ãâã_d he_o mean_v the_o mass_n or_o lumpââ_n whereof_o the_o apostle_n speak_v be_v ãâã_d indifferent_a that_o as_o it_o deserve_v no_o good_a ãâã_d so_o it_o deserve_v no_o evil_a not_o without_o cause_n iâ_n may_v be_v think_v iniquity_n that_o thereof_o there_o shall_v be_v make_v certain_a vessel_n to_o dishonour_n but_o see_a that_o by_o the_o freewill_n of_o the_o first_o man_n the_o whole_a mass_n do_v become_v guilty_a of_o condemnation_n it_o be_v without_o doubt_n of_o god_n mercy_n that_o thereof_o be_v make_v certain_a vessel_n to_o honour_n etc._n etc._n and_o of_o his_o judgââââ_n mean_v his_o justice_n that_o other_o ãâã_d be_v make_v to_o dishonour_n thus_o far_o austin_n according_a to_o who_o judgement_n we_o ãâã_d that_o it_o be_v not_o god_n absolute_a ãâã_d without_o respect_n to_o man_n wickedness_n o'erseen_v but_o it_o be_v sin_n which_o be_v the_o ââuse_n why_o some_o vessel_n be_v make_v to_o âââhonour_n or_o damnation_n now_o hyperius_n a_o learned_a proteââant_n shall_v further_o answer_v for_o i_o âho_fw-mi say_v that_o 438._o that_o in_o method_n theolog._n l._n 2._o pag._n 438._o the_o long_a patience_n mention_v in_o the_o text_n wherewith_o god_n suffer_v the_o vessel_n of_o wrath_n demonstrate_v that_o they_o be_v create_v good_a and_o afterward_o ãâã_d come_v evil_a of_o their_o proper_a will_n they_o be_v âade_v vessel_n of_o wrath_n because_o voluntary_o they_o be_v to_o become_v evil_a thus_o hiperius_n so_o certain_a it_o be_v that_o their_o creation_n of_o be_v vessel_n be_v of_o god_n but_o be_v vessel_n of_o wrath_n be_v from_o their_o sin_n foresee_v i_o will_v conclude_v this_o point_n even_o with_o the_o apostle_n explanation_n of_o this_o place_n who_o express_o say_v that_o tim._n that_o 2._o tim._n if_o a_o vessel_n unto_o dishonour_n shall_v cleanse_v itself_o it_o shall_v become_v a_o vessel_n unto_o honour_n so_o far_o be_v the_o apostle_n from_o judge_v that_o god_n do_v absolute_o ordain_v any_o man_n to_o destruction_n and_o damnation_n without_o respect_n and_o reference_n to_o his_o sin_n and_o impiety_n thus_o far_o of_o this_o place_n illustrate_v by_o the_o apostle_n austin_n and_o the_o former_a learned_a protestant_n and_o for_o the_o closure_n of_o all_o i_o will_v alleyne_v to_o ãâã_d authority_n my_o own_o obseruâ_n ãâã_d touch_v our_o aduersarius_fw-la in_o this_o controversy_n their_o translate_n out_o of_o ãâã_d for_o their_o own_o advantage_n these_o worâ_n ordain_v to_o destruction_n whereas_o it_o ãâã_d the_o greek_a only_o ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d that_o be_v make_v apt_a to_o destruction_n and_o accord_v hereto_o it_o be_v in_o the_o latin_a tââ_n apta_n ad_fw-la interitum_fw-la enthusiastus_n i_o can_v nor_o will_v not_o reply_v again_o the_o apostle_n judgement_n herein_o but_o yââ_n there_o 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i_o answer_v that_o the_o incredulity_n of_o âen_n and_z ââ_o default_n of_o the_o lamb_n make_v ââis_n restraint_n thus_o m._n fox_n d._n covell_n thus_o teach_v 63._o teach_v in_o his_o defence_n of_o m._n hooker_n p._n ââ_o &_o 63._o sure_o ãâã_d have_v a_o general_a inclination_n to_o save_v all_o etc._n etc._n and_o that_o with_o a_o conditional_a will_n he_o âilleth_v all_o man_n to_o be_v save_v who_o therefore_o ââat_v they_o be_v not_o save_v be_v not_o his_o decree_n âât_v their_o own_o fault_n m._n hooker_n be_v no_o ââsse_n strong_a in_o this_o doctrine_n say_v 104._o say_v in_o hiâ_n ecclesiast_fw-la policy_n p._n 104._o âods_n general_a inclination_n be_v that_o all_o man_n âight_a be_v save_v m._n gibbons_n discourse_v âereof_o in_o this_o sort_n 108._o sort_n m._n gibb_n in_o his_o quest_n &_o disputat_fw-la upon_o genes_n quaest_a 2._o pag._n 108._o sure_o there_o be_v no_o ââuse_n in_o god_n either_o in_o his_o will_n or_o in_o his_o knowledge_n or_o decree_n that_o 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