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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A66961	Concerning images and idolatry	R. H., 1609-1678.	1689 (1689)	Wing W3441; ESTC R38732	65,462	92

Trinitatem servitio aut adoratione non impenderent anathemata judicarentur Qui supra Sanctissimi Patres nostri omnimodis orationem servitutem eis renuentes contempserunt atque consentientes condemnaverunt Much dispute hath been and many reasons on either side produced concerning the true Decree of this Council whether it was for or against Adoration i. e. Veneration of Images Historians varying in this matter and the former published Acts of this Council containing nothing thereof But for the present we will suppose this forementioned Decree genuine i. e. grant all our Adversaries can desire and proceed only to examine how the Nicene Decree is any way debilitated thereby Desiring this on the other side to be granted me that Pope Adrian at least confirmed no such Decree of Franckfort upon these considerations 1. Both because Adrian professed to the Emperor his admitting and confirming the Decree of Nice 2. And also writ an Answer in defence of it to the Caroline Books and particularly Act. 3. c. 9. to that Chapter l. 3. c. 17. which chargeth the Nicene Synod with the very same error as this Franckfort Decree doth where he shews that the Nicene Synod maintained just the contrary And 3. because in some parts of that Answer he produceth two forementioned Councils held at Rome one of them by his immediate Predecessor Stephen IV. the delegated Bishops of France also consenting to have decreed the same Veneration of Images before that of Nice as also his Predecessor St. Gregory to have taught it And lastly because the Gallican Bishops assembled at Paris under Ludovicus Pius in 824 when the former transactions of Franckfort could not be unknown or forgotten accuse Pope Adrian for siding with and defending the Council of Nice and Adoration of Images not justly done if his latter Act at Franckfort was contrary to and condemned both the Council of Nice and consequently his own Answer Neither tho Ado in his Chronicle and so others after him mentions the presence of Pope Adrian's Legates in this Synod of Franckfort and they might be there and dissent yet do I see any probability thereof because there is no mention made of them as always useth to be in the Acts of this Council where there is of all the other members of it and of the presence of the Emperor Charles and it is also manifest that Pope Adrian's Epistle to the Spanish Clergy against Elipandus inserted in that Council was procured by Charles his Agents at Rome before its sitting § 25 After this to consider the Canon of Franckfort it self we see it condemns those that give such Adoration to the Images of Saints as to the Deifical Trinity which condemnation is such as both the Council of Nice and Adrian and the present Roman Church do willingly admit and subscribe to the Definition of Nice as appears before being point-blank opposite to any such Adoration Non secundum fidem nostram veram latriam quae solum Divinae naturae competit sed quemadmodum typo venerandae Crucis Sanctis Evangeliis c. Only the application of such a Tenet and such an Anathematisme to the Council of Nice is that which it is most manifest the Fathers at Franckfort erred in and the cause of such mistake seems to be that the Question indeed about Adoration and the report of such an Anathematisme by the Nicene Council in qua scriptum habebatur saith the Franckfort Decree was allata in medium but not the Copy it self or if the Copy that Copy must be false for in express words the true Copies have no such thing but just the contrary For we see that the Copy of the Acts of this Council tho it is granted well known to the Author of the Caroline Books and to the Assembly at Paris some twenty years after this at Franckfort yet was not common in the West or came into many hands insomuch also as that it was unknown to St. Thomas and the ancient Schoolmen Hence that much cited Passage of Hincmar a Writer of those times Contra Hincmar Laudun c. 20. Septima autem apud Graecos vocata universalis Pseudo-Synodus de Imaginibus quas quidam confringendas quidam autem adorandas dicebant neutra pars intellectu sano definiens sine authoritate Apostolicae Sedis non longe ante nostra tempora Niceae est a compluribus Episcopis habita Romam missa quam etiam Papa Romanus in Franciam direxit unde tempore Caroli Magni Imperatoris jussione Apostolicae Sedis generalis Synodus in Francia convocante praefato Imperatore celebrata secundum Scripturarum tramitem traditionemque majorum ipsa Graecorum Pseudo-Synodus destructa est penitus abdicata de cujus destructione non modicum volumen quod in Palatio adolescentulus legi ab eodem Imperatore Romam est per quosdam Episcopos missum is found to have many mistakes in it 1. who first mentions the Constantinopolitan and the Nicene as one Council divided into two extremes in their Opinion 2. that it was held without the authority of the Roman Bishop which Error the Caroline Books had spread in the West tho the Acts of the Nicene Council often make clear the contrary mention the presence of his Legates and in Actione 2. recite Pope Adrian's Synodical Epistle sent by them fully agreeing with the judgment of the Council concerning veneration of Images in such manner as other holy things 3. That Pope Adrian having received a Copy of it sent it to Charles and that by the Pope's Order a General Synod was called by the Emperor in France he saith but surely means this of Franckfort wherein the Greek Pseudo-Synod was condemned and that a large Book written of the condemation of it meaning the Caroline Books was sent from Charles by some Bishops to the Pope whereas such Books were written indeed but long before the Synod of Franckfort and so the Volume sent to Adrian not by some Bishops of the Council but by Engilbert an Abbot a Favourite of Charles and so answered by him probably before this Council which was assembled indeed by the Apostolick Authority but upon another occasion the Heresy of Elipandus Lastly the Nicene Council maintaining Adoration of Images but in a much more mitigated sense than Hincmare and the Gallican Bishops all deceived by the Caroline Books apprehended it The same mis-opinion of this Council of Nice also had Jonas Aurelianensis who writing against Claudius Taurinensis an Iconoclast yet declares himself also an enemy to the Adorers of Images Quod cum sciant saith he Imaginibus nil inessc Divini majors invectione digni sunt quod honorem debitum Divinitati impendant egeno infirmo simulachro atque idipsum nonnullis Orientalium qui eodem sceleratissimo errori mancipantur respondere solere In like manner seems the Synod of Franckfort not having seen nor perhaps the Emperor I know not by what miscarriage or concealment the Acts of Nice or Adrian's Answer to have bin deceived by