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that_o to_o prove_v that_o fanaticisme_n do_v necessary_o contain_v a_o resistance_n against_o authority_n i_o unhappy_o quote_v these_o his_o word_n p._n 141._o in_o his_o discourse_n concern_v the_o fanaticisme_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n by_o fanaticisme_n we_o understand_v either_o a_o enthusiastic_a way_n of_o religion_n or_o resist_a authority_n under_o pretence_n of_o religion_n now_o i_o think_v that_o dr._n st._n in_o the_o forementioned_a word_n have_v give_v we_o two_o different_a notion_n or_o description_n of_o fanaticisme_n but_o i_o be_v mistake_v for_o the_o dr._n as_o it_o seem_v intend_v only_o in_o that_o place_n to_o assign_v two_o sort_n of_o fanaticisme_n the_o reason_n of_o my_o mistake_n be_v because_o i_o suppose_v that_o the_o dr._n proceed_v like_o a_o scholar_n and_o that_o according_o beginning_z to_o treat_v of_o fanaticisme_n he_o will_v give_v we_o some_o description_n thereof_o but_o he_o very_o illogical_o tell_v we_o how_o many_o sort_n of_o 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spirit_n and_o judgement_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n and_o in_o the_o interpretation_n of_o scripture_n but_o oblige_v all_o to_o submit_v to_o her_o judgement_n as_o be_v manifest_a neither_o can_v the_o dr._n question_v it_o since_o he_o oftentimes_o complain_v of_o the_o tyranny_n as_o he_o be_v please_v to_o term_v it_o of_o the_o roman_a church_n in_o this_o point_n see_v doctor_n stillingfleet_n against_o doctor_n stillingfleet_n pag._n 10._o all_o which_o he_o pass_v over_o in_o silence_n pag._n 52._o the_o dr._n wonder_n why_o i_o do_v not_o speak_v a_o word_n of_o the_o fanatic_a principle_n of_o rebellion_n own_v as_o he_o will_v needs_o have_v it_o by_o the_o jesuitical_a party_n viz._n the_o king_n be_v derive_v his_o power_n from_o the_o people_n and_o the_o people_n authority_n to_o call_v the_o king_n to_o account_v and_o if_o they_o see_v good_a to_o take_v away_o his_o power_n and_o to_o change_v the_o government_n and_o not_o only_o so_o but_o to_o take_v away_o his_o life_n too_o which_o pestilent_a principle_n he_o have_v quote_v out_o of_o mariana_n a_o jesuit_n and_o to_o show_v that_o not_o only_o the_o jesuit_n but_o also_o the_o roman_a church_n do_v approve_v these_o principle_n which_o be_v his_o main_a task_n he_o add_v that_o the_o party_n which_o own_v these_o principle_n jesuit_n be_v too_o this_o day_n the_o most_o countenance_v and_o encourage_v at_o rome_n so_o that_o he_o not_o only_a father_n the_o foremention_v principle_n upon_o the_o whole_a body_n of_o the_o jesuit_n because_o they_o be_v deliver_v by_o one_o of_o their_o community_n but_o also_o upon_o rome_n because_o it_o favour_v the_o jesuit_n which_o argument_n of_o the_o dr_n be_v as_o conclusive_a as_o if_o you_o shall_v argue_v thus_o hugh_n peter_n a_o member_n of_o the_o university_n of_o cambridge_n preach_v in_o the_o late_a war_n rebellious_a principle_n therefore_o not_o only_o the_o university_n of_o cambridge_n but_o his_o majesty_n also_o who_o have_v 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that_o party_n dr._n st._n speak_v of_o be_v countenance_v by_o several_a king_n who_o will_v be_v loath_a to_o be_v deprive_v of_o their_o kingdom_n but_o alas_o for_o they_o poor_a prince_n they_o do_v not_o understand_v the_o intrigue_n of_o the_o jesuit_n though_o they_o converse_v often_o with_o they_o neither_o have_v they_o man_n about_o they_o able_a to_o discover_v such_o pernicious_a doctrine_n king_n henry_n the_o four_o of_o france_n his_o majesty_n grandfather_n and_o the_o present_a french_a king_n both_o favourer_n of_o the_o jesuit_n be_v unacquainted_a with_o matter_n of_o state_n and_o civil_a government_n but_o dr._n edward_n stillingfleet_n the_o great_a politician_n of_o the_o world_n comprehend_v clear_o the_o true_a interest_n of_o prince_n and_o though_o he_o have_v scarce_o ever_o have_v any_o converse_n with_o jesuit_n yet_o with_o the_o sublety_n of_o his_o private_a spirit_n whereby_o he_o be_v able_a to_o discover_v in_o a_o moment_n what_o scripture_n be_v canonical_a and_o which_o be_v their_o legitimate_a sense_n he_o have_v learn_v their_o intrigue_n and_o pestilent_a principle_n final_o those_o who_o understand_v the_o temper_n of_o rome_n better_a than_o dr._n st._n affirm_v that_o the_o dominican_n and_o clergy_n be_v as_o much_o or_o more_o countenance_v there_o than_o jesuit_n and_o yet_o the_o dominican_n and_o clergy_n if_o we_o believe_v dr._n st._n be_v no_o great_a friend_n to_o jesuit_n in_o the_o same_o page_n he_o say_v that_o if_o j._n w._n answer_v again_o let_v he_o speak_v out_o like_o a_o man_n concern_v those_o rebellious_a principle_n abovemention_v well_o then_o j._n w._n speak_v out_o like_o a_o man_n and_o tell_v the_o dr._n plain_o that_o he_o will_v be_v very_o sorry_a be_v he_o not_o persuade_v that_o he_o detect_v the_o aforesaid_a principle_n more_o than_o the_o dr._n himself_o do_v for_o all_o that_o he_o can_v gather_v from_o his_o work_n for_o whatever_o dr._n st.'s_n practice_n have_v be_v which_o j._n w._n have_v not_o yet_o make_v it_o his_o business_n to_o inquire_v after_o yet_o even_o those_o very_a principle_n whereby_o he_o pretend_v to_o clear_v the_o protestant_a church_n from_o the_o crime_n of_o schism_n do_v vindicate_v have_v they_o any_o force_n in_o they_o all_o rebellion_n and_o treacherous_a conspiracy_n though_o never_o so_o execrable_a and_o be_v most_o destructive_a to_o all_o civil_a government_n than_o any_o doctrine_n of_o mariana_n as_o will_v manifest_o appear_v to_o whoever_o shall_v take_v pain_n to_o compare_v they_o and_o to_o apply_v the_o dr.'s_n own_o word_n to_o himself_o in_o his_o answer_n to_o dr._n cressy_n apologetical_a epistle_n p._n 475._o he_o that_o own_v the_o principle_n that_o lead_v to_o he_o treason_n want_v only_o a_o opportunity_n to_o act_v they_o so_o that_o if_o dr._n st._n have_v a_o just_a and_o real_a zeal_n for_o his_o majesty_n interest_n and_o security_n according_a to_o what_o he_o affirm_v pag._n 52._o his_o principle_n do_v not_o lead_v he_o unto_o it_o but_o the_o prospect_n of_o some_o advantage_n thereby_o i_o prove_v the_o roman_a church_n to_o be_v free_a from_o fanaticisme_n because_o all_o fanaticisme_n as_o i_o show_v or_o at_o least_o that_o sort_n of_o fanaticisme_n which_o maintain_v rebellious_a principle_n be_v against_o all_o lawful_a and_o competent_a authority_n as_o dr._n st._n himself_o must_v needs_o confess_v now_o what_o be_v countenance_v by_o a_o competent_a and_o lawful_a authority_n be_v not_o against_o all_o such_o authority_n as_o be_v manifest_a and_o consequent_o can_v be_v fanaticisme_n at_o least_o that_o sort_n of_o fanaticisme_n that_o maintain_v rebellious_a principle_n since_o therefore_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v a_o true_a church_n unerring_a in_o all_o article_n of_o faith_n and_o since_o the_o authority_n of_o a_o true_a church_n be_v a_o lawful_a authority_n and_o sufficient_a to_o clear_v particular_a way_n of_o proceed_v from_o fanaticisme_n as_o with_o several_a instance_n i_o have_v show_v pag._n 9_o in_o the_o proof_n of_o my_o four_o proposition_n though_o the_o dr._n cunning_o pass_v they_o over_o it_o evident_o follow_v that_o whatever_o the_o roman_a church_n countenance_n as_o long_o as_o she_o remain_v a_o true_a church_n can_v be_v fanaticisme_n nor_o rebellion_n and_o by_o consequence_n she_o be_v free_a from_o those_o crime_n for_o why_o shall_v any_o one_o impute_v to_o she_o that_o which_o she_o do_v not_o countenance_n to_o this_o the_o dr._n answer_v pag._n 54._o first_o that_o he_o charge_v as_o fanatic_n several_a person_n in_o our_o church_n who_o be_v never_o countenance_v by_o she_o neither_o do_v they_o submit_v to_o her_o authority_n but_o what_o answer_n be_v this_o to_o i_o who_o pretend_v only_o to_o clear_v our_o church_n from_o fanaticisme_n and_o how_o can_v she_o be_v just_o impeach_v of_o fanaticisme_n which_o she_o do_v not_o allow_v of_o yea_o the_o principal_a design_n of_o the_o dr._n in_o that_o chapter_n be_v to_o charge_v the_o roman_a church_n with_o fanaticisme_n as_o appear_v from_o its_o title_n but_o he_o add_v that_o he_o produce_v those_o instance_n to_o prove_v against_o his_o adversary_n t._n g._n that_o the_o sect_n and_o fanaticism_n among_o protestant_n here_o in_o england_n can_v not_o be_v the_o effect_n of_o the_o reformation_n since_o there_o be_v as_o wild_a and_o extravagant_a fanaticism_n before_o good_a just_a as_o if_o he_o shall_v have_v argue_v in_o this_o manner_n king_n henry_n the_o 8_o or_o edward_n the_o 6_o can_v not_o bring_v in_o protestancy_n here_o in_o england_n because_o luther_n have_v broach_v it_o before_o in_o germany_n there_o have_v be_v fanatic_n heretofore_o among_o the_o roman_a catholic_n as_o there_o be_v now_o among_o protestant_n but_o with_o this_o difference_n that_o the_o very_a constitution_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v repugnant_a to_o fanaticisme_n since_o it_o express_o prohibit_v man_n to_o be_v guide_v by_o 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18._o that_o he_o never_o vindicate_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n from_o idolatry_n in_o his_o defence_n of_o archbishop_n lawd_n which_o be_v the_o book_n wherein_o he_o confess_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n to_o be_v a_o true_a church_n but_o what_o do_v he_o mean_v by_o say_v that_o he_o never_o vindicate_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n from_o idolatry_n do_v he_o mean_v that_o he_o never_o write_v any_o treatise_n on_o this_o subject_n that_o i_o confess_v to_o be_v true_a but_o sure_a to_o commit_v contradiction_n it_o be_v not_o necessary_a to_o have_v write_v treatise_n in_o vindication_n of_o each_o or_o either_o part_n of_o the_o contradiction_n have_v he_o say_v in_o express_a term_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v a_o true_a church_n and_o be_v not_o a_o true_a church_n will_v he_o not_o have_v contradict_v himself_o unless_o he_o have_v publish_v book_n or_o treatise_n in_o defence_n of_o the_o one_o or_o the_o other_o part_n of_o such_o a_o palpable_a contradiction_n as_o 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shift_n whereby_o he_o pretend_v to_o clear_v himself_o pag._n 18._o he_o add_v in_o the_o same_o place_n that_o it_o fall_v out_o very_o happy_o that_o in_o his_o defence_n of_o archbishop_n lawd_n pag._n 596.606_o he_o have_v make_v a_o discourse_n to_o the_o same_o purpose_n prove_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n guilty_a of_o idolatry_n in_o the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n and_o the_o worship_n of_o image_n but_o what_o do_v this_o help_n to_o show_v that_o what_o he_o say_v in_o his_o defence_n of_o archbishop_n lawd_n do_v not_o contradict_v what_o he_o assert_n in_o his_o discourse_n of_o idolatry_n which_o be_v his_o main_a design_n in_o the_o present_a answer_n be_v not_o this_o as_o if_o one_o shall_v have_v affirm_v what_o dr._n st._n say_v in_o one_o part_n of_o his_o defense_n of_o the_o archbishop_n do_v contradict_v what_o he_o say_v in_o another_o part_n of_o the_o same_o book_n therefore_o what_o he_o say_v in_o his_o defence_n of_o the_o archbishop_n do_v not_o 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that_o it_o be_v not_o necessary_a to_o turn_v over_o many_o book_n nay_o nor_o many_o chapter_n nor_o sometime_o many_o leaf_n to_o meet_v with_o they_o he_o say_v far_a in_o the_o same_o page_n 18._o that_o i_o do_v not_o pretend_v to_o gather_v out_o of_o his_o book_n any_o contradiction_n in_o term_n or_o a_o formal_a affirmation_n and_o negation_n of_o the_o same_o object_n but_o only_o by_o consequence_n and_o i_o desire_v to_o know_v of_o he_o whether_o if_o i_o do_v show_v as_o i_o have_v already_o show_v that_o what_o he_o assert_n in_o his_o rational_a account_n do_v by_o good_a consequence_n contradict_v and_o annul_v the_o charge_n lay_v upon_o we_o in_o his_o discourse_n of_o idolatry_n all_o those_o inference_n mention_v above_o which_o follow_v from_o self-contradiction_n in_o the_o way_n i_o insist_v upon_o do_v not_o by_o good_a consequence_n fall_v heavy_a upon_o he_o and_o if_o so_o whether_o this_o be_v not_o enough_o to_o confute_v he_o to_o declare_v the_o better_a the_o inanity_n of_o these_o evasion_n he_o make_v use_v of_o to_o vindicate_v himself_o from_o contradiction_n let_v we_o put_v case_n that_o one_o who_o heretofore_o have_v confess_v dr._n st._n to_o be_v a_o honest_a man_n shall_v now_o upon_o some_o pick_n although_o retain_v yet_o the_o former_a good_a opinion_n of_o his_o honesty_n affirm_v he_o to_o be_v a_o knave_n and_o that_o some_o of_o the_o dr.'s_n friend_n to_o vindicate_v he_o from_o so_o foul_a a_o aspersion_n shall_v charge_v his_o adversary_n as_o just_o they_o may_v with_o contradiction_n in_o affirm_v dr._n st._n to_o be_v a_o honest_a man_n and_o yet_o a_o knave_n can_v he_o or_o any_o one_o else_o imagine_v that_o such_o a_o man_n will_v sufficient_o clear_v himself_o from_o the_o crime_n of_o contradiction_n by_o say_v that_o he_o never_o vindicate_v the_o honesty_n of_o dr._n st._n although_o he_o have_v heretosore_n and_o do_v still_o hold_v he_o to_o be_v a_o honest_a man_n that_o it_o have_v happy_o 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