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A65706 The fallibility of the Roman Church demonstrated from the manifest error of the 2d Nicene & Trent Councils, which assert that the veneration and honorary worship of images is a tradition primitive and apostolical. Whitby, Daniel, 1638-1726. 1687 (1687) Wing W1728; ESTC R8848 85,812 92

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