not at all to his purpose At the best it is but a recrimination I know not how this Animadverter could imagine that the owning and asserting of these things as lawful had the least tendency to the establishment of a National Church But some men are so distempered that they suppose every thing makes for the advancement of that design they are driving on If he deems Synods owned by men of Congregational Principles and his Ecclesiastical Convocation of National Officers are of the same nature he is mistaken 1. Those are chosen by the particular Churches to which they are severally related and what they act and do is in their name and upon the account of that power and authority they receive from them The Convocation of the Clergy act in their own name and authority being never chosen by any one Congregation to sit and make Laws 2ly Those pretend not to be the Church nor to any self-power to make Laws and impose them upon the Churches as obligatory and binding to be received and subjected to by them without the least judgement of discretion allowed them or liberty of dissenting if not perswaded in their consciences of the truth of what is decreed by them and its consonancy with the Scriptures of the Lord. As is known to be the case of the Convocation of the Church of England to dissent from whose Canons at least to oppose them is censured with no less than an Excommunication or delivering up to Satan Which how directly it leads to the Popish implicit faith of believing as the Church believes every one is able to discern For my part with reference to these I am much of the mind of the learned Whitaker de Concil p. 12. General Councils may erre and imbrace false opinions Nam Concilium Antiochenum veritatem damnavit haeresin apertam propugnavit Similiter Ariminense Ephesinum secundum ex quo patet veritatem non esse metiendam ex numero Episcoporum Of them he saith 1. That their calling together is a certain politick and humane invention pag. 35 77. 2. That they cannot frame Articles of Faith to binde the Conscience pag. 19. 3. That their end in coming together is not to feed as Pastors but to consult what is best for the Churches pag. 85. 4. That they are not simply necessary pag. 23. 5. That they do not give authority to the Scripture pag. 242 243. 6. That their Decrees are not immediately inspired by the Holy Ghost pag. 262 263. 7. That the ultimate determination and judgment of a General Council may be false pag. 231. 8. That there is no judgement of a Council properly in matters of Faith ibid. 9. That the truth of things determined in Councils may afterwards be called into question and again disputed pag. 283. 10. That the Churches of Christ have been kept sound in Faith without them for the first 300 years pag. 23. To which I add 11. That I never yet read of any Council or Synod since that Act 15. but 't were easie to demonstrate that in one thing or other it hath erred The most of the Hay and Stubble that is built upon the Foundation at this day not to mention their attempts 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 owing its original to some of them So that I confess I am no admirer of them and am bold to affirm of any that have yet been it had been better for the Church of God that they had never been in the world But these things are little to Mr. T. his purpose That persons owning the lawfulness of Synods from Scripture-warrant as they conceive should therefore be necessitated to own a National Church as a true Church of Christ is a position that Mr. T. will never make good I suppose by the view I have taken of some of his Writings he is very confident of his own abilities but he is a rare man indeed that can compose a Rope of Sand. The lawfulness of a National Church or unlawfulness thereof having no dependance upon Congregational Synods but is to take its measure from somewhat else of which before Of Churches of a greater number â—han can meet at one place for the celebration of all the Ordinances of Christ I shall not need to say any thing till he acquaint us what Congregational men are of that perswasion it will be accounted a meer Calumny The assembling of the members of a particular Church in the same place for the celebration of the same Numerical Ordinances being one considerable part of the definition given by our Congregational Brethren of such a Church And yet if they did own Churches of a greater number 't is ridiculous to imagine that they could from thence be compelled to the owning of a National Church which wants both the matter and form of a true Church of Christ which yet the other may have So that we need not turn aside to consider the proofs used by those that held That many particular Congregations may be under one Presbyterial Government Printed 1645. Of which this Animadverter reminds us For though I am not of their mind nor do I conceive their Reasons to be cogent Yet were that true a National Church could not from thence be proved a true Church of Christ For 1st They suppose these Congregations to be particular Churches of Christ constituted and made up of visible Saints which cannot as yet be affirmed of any National Church in the world or any Parish Church as a part thereof 2dly They also affirm that these particular Churches have power within themselves to determine differences by their own Elders to excommunicate Offenders obstinately guilty of notorious scandals 3dly They are utterly against all Archiepiscopal National Officers the source and spring of a National Church 4thly They conceive not all in England nor all in a Parish to be lawful Church-members because born there nor will they compel them as such to receive the Sacrament with them which is the known case of the Church of England That at Jerusalem there were more Churches than one under a Presbyterial Government is a fond conceit which the numerous multitude of Believers thereunto belonging contribute not the least mite of assistance to Be they never so many they are called Acts 8. 1. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 The Church which was at Jerusalem The like may be said of the Church of Corinth it was one single Congregation the Church of God which was at Corinth 1 Cor. 1 1. 2 Cor. 1. 1. So was the Church at Ephesus Rev. 2. 1. But as was said The grant of more Churches than one under one Presbyterial Government is remote enough from the establishment of a National Church which by other bonds and ligaments than the Assertors thereof will own must be united to one National Head or it hath not cannot have a being in the world So that these things are little to his purpose The next attempt of this Animadverter is to remove an obstruction which he
disorderly we prove Those that walk not after the tradition received from the Apostles and from the Primiâ—ive Church for above 300 years after Christ but according to the traditions of the old Bawd and Strumpet of Rome are such as walk disorderly But the present Ministers walk not after the tradition received from the Apostles but after the traditions of the Whorish Church of Rome Therefore The Major is bottom'd upon the express words of the Apostle in the place instanc'd in and were it not no person of ingenuity would have the confidence to deny it The Minor we prove by particular instances They have no Apostolical written Tradition for Liturgies Surplice Cross in Baptism c. If they have let them produce it and we are satisfied if not they are disorderly walkers and to be seperated from that they are such 2. cannot be denied by such as pretend to Reformation if submitting to ordination or reordination by a Lord-Bishop covenanting and protesting with detestation against a Reformation according to the Scriptures and the best reformed Churches be so In answer to which Mr. T. tells us 1. That it belongs not to him to speak for the present Ministers but to themselves Answ 1. And indeed many sober minded persons think so too It very ill becoms any man 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and to go about to build again the things he once destroyed But yet 2ly It s not the part of an Advocate thus to desert his Clients in open Court If he undertake their defence it appertains to him to answer for them to what is objected against them However he acquaints us 2ly what he conceives they would say for themselves 1. That they do not covenant and protest with detestation against a Reformation according to the Scripture and the best reformed Churches Answer The whole of my intendment in that expression was to intimate their renunciation of that Covenant wherein the Reformation intimated was solemnly engaged to be promoted whicâ— what is it less then to protest against the Reformation therein asserted and enjoyned That they did this is evident from their subscription of the declaration or acknowledgement following I A. B. do declare that I do hold there lies no obligation upon me or on any other person from the Oath commonly called the Solemn League and Covenant to endeavour any change or alteration of Government either in Church or State and that the same was in it self an unlawful Oath That they did because they judged the matter of the Covenant at least with respect to reformation of the Church by purging it of the Hierarchie to be sinful I do suppose they will not deny nor that they renounce sin without detestation So that the Author of S. T. will in the judgment of sober minded persons be soon acquitted froâ— being in this matter a Calumniator He tels us 2ly He conceivs they would justifie their submitting to Ordination or reordination by a Lord-Bishop their owning and reading a Liturgy in the Church their wearing the Surplice Crossing in Baptism c. Answ 1. No one doubts but they would nor can any other be expected from them who are in the practice of these things But that because they will justifie them therefore they are no disorderly walkeâ—s is not in my poor judgment an argument of the least weight The Papists will justifie their 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or Image-worship and the rest of their abominable idolatries and bring Scripture to prove it lawful too Gregorius de Valentia tels us there is some worship of Images lawful and proves it from 1 Pet 4. 3. because the Apostle would there deterre them from the unlawful worship of Idols yet I hope Mr. T. will not affirm they are not disorderly walkers and to be separated from as such 2ly We say not that they themselves will confess that they are disorderly walkers but that such as Mr. T. who have covenanted against Bishops and pretended to be for Reformation cannot deny but that they are indeed so with respect to the matters instanced in which he must acknowledge to be true for they are the very things they covenanted against as intolerable disorders and abuses to remove out of the way So that however they might call me an egregious false accuser which yet were but a sorry answer to the charge laid against them yet one would not have expected such language from Mr. T. These things are disorders or they are not If they are not why did this Animadverter Covenant Preach Print against them glory that he was one of the first that in print testified his dissatisfaction touching them If they are most assuredly those that practise them are with respect to them disorderly walkers And is Mr. T. of late grown such a fond Admirer of them that a man cannot speak truth of them but he must call him an egregious false accuser I am afraid 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and seriously to review with what spirit he writ such passages as these He adds 3dly These practices except the first are not of such a degree of pravity whether justifiable or sinful as that barely for them they should be reputed in the number of Disorderly walkers and so after due process to be separated from by vertue of positive precept from Christ Mat. 18. 2 Thess 3. 6. For 1. Mat. 18. 15 16. is meant of personal injuries the Separation permitted is a Separation only from civil eating and familiar reception not from Gospel-communion Answ 1. This is 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and hath already been fully confuted 2dly He further affirms that the disorderly walking 2 Thess 3. 6. must be understood of sins of greater pravity than the particulars instanced in and charged upon them except the first which they will deny Answ 1. But the first we have proved against them therefore they are disorderly walkers according to this Scripture by Mr. T. his confession and so to be separated from 2. Every sin is a disorderly walking if persons will stand in justifie plead for any sin they are to be separated from by vertue of this Apostolical precept But 3dly If the sins charged upon the present Ministers be too small to constitute the disorderly walking here mentioned what are the greater that do so The gross sins he tells us of of any Brother not a Minister who was bound to work v. 10. such as those 1 Cor. 5. 11. 2 Cor. 12. 20 21. Answ 1. Why the gross sins of a Brother not a Minister Is not the Ordinance of private admonition Church-Censures an Institution of Christ out of the abundance of his love for the good of his Children Is a Minister exempt from it more than others he will not sure say so 2dly Why such gross sins as those mentioned 1 Cor. 5. 11. 2. Cor. 12. 20 21. doth the Apostle charge the Church of Thessalonica with any such evils as those there mentioned nothing less These are instanced in because the Animadverter supposeth at
the Sabbath Baptism Lord's Supper c. and I do so in this dispute Answ Egregie dictum excellently said indeed as if because we affirm that whatever is to be practised in Instituted Worship in the time of the Gospel is to be wholly bottom'd as to the Law and Precept instituting it upon some Commandment of Christ in the New-Testament therefore we assert that no use may be made of the Scriptures of the Old-Testament treating thereabout by way of prophecy or otherwise which is a Consequence this learned Animadverter will never be able to make good 'T is true many learned men do make use of some places of the Old-Testament to prove the morality of one day in seven or the seventh part of time not as I remember except Psa 118. 24 which some conceive by way of prophecy speaks of the Lord 's honouring the first day for the confirmation of the observation of the first day which they conceive Christ's resurrection on that day the practice of the Primitive-Church meeting together for the solemn Worship of God 1 Cor. 16. 2. Acts 20. 7. the appellation the Lord's Day which they judge is given to it c. is a sufficient warrant for their observation thereof in Gospel-times They plead not for Baptism or the Lord's Supper upon any other bottom than Gospel-Institution or their preception by Christ in the New-Testament Though 't is true as touching the subjects of the one and the other they judg they may by way of analogy argue somewhat from Old-Testament-Scriptures from which apprehension they see nothing so weighty in what is tendred by Mr. T. notwithstanding his brag and immodest Assertion pag. 18. Sect. 14. that such a way of arguing is irrational as if wisdom rested with him and he had the measure of it and a man could not differ from him but he must be a block or bruit to influence their departure That because the granting the Assertion would be disadvantagious to the Author and the Separatists therefore it should be in Mr. T. his opinion an unreasonable postulatum to devolve the question upon the Scriptures of the New-Testament I understand not He takes not a measure I presume of the reasonableness or unreasonableness of requests from their advantagiousness or disadvantagiousness to such contemptible creatures as we and should he do so he were much to blame as to infer from hence therefore I see no reasonableness in his Postulatum which is introduced not as the natural issue of any thing premised which he knows it is not but meerly for pomp and shew Sect. 3. The judgments of the Antients no sufficient substratum to build my practice upon in the Worship of God The opinion of the Antients â—hemselves in this matter None but the Spirit of God speaking in the Scriptures can satisfie the consciences of any dissatisfied in matters relating to Worship Our Faith not to be resolved into the Testimony of men which is a principle decryed by the Antients and Protestant Churches The consciences of none can be satisfied in what is written by the Ancients before they are assured 1. that what they read as or are told is theirs be indeed so and not counterfeited nor adulterated 2. That in their Writings they were as the Apostles and Prophets guided by an unerring Spirit The true use of the Testimony of the Ancients Congregational-Principles owned by them Of Councils and Schoolmen THe fourth Section is fronted with this The judgement of the Ancients not useless in this Controversie as if the Author of the Sober-Testimony had asserted it to be so which Mr. T. knows he no where doth This indeed the words of the Author not perplexing our selves nor the consciences of any with the judgments of men in generations past wherein they cannot acquiesce fairly intimate 1. That the judgment of none of the children of men though never so famous in their generation since the Apostles fell asleep is a sufficient Substratum to build my faith and practice upon in the Worship of my God In which we have the concurrence of the Ancients themselves Basil tels us that it is necessary and consonant to Reason that every man learn that which is needful out of the Scriptures both for the fulness of Godliness and lest they be inured to humane traditions Regul contract 95. p. 902. And Austin Epist 112. ad Paulin. saith If a matter be grounded on the clear authority of the holy Scriptures it is to be believed without all doubt but as for other witnesses and testimonies upon whose credit any thing may be urged unto us to believe it it is lawful for thee either to credit or not to credit them according as thou shalt perceive them of weight to deserve or not to deserve credit Origin saith Homil. 1. in Hierem. We must of necessity call the Scriptures to witness for our senses and interpretations without them are of no credit Famous is the saying of Cyril Bishop of Jerusalem Catech. 4. p. 15. We must not deliver any thing though never so small without the holy Scriptures neither may we be led away with probabilities and shews of words neither yet believe me barely saying these things unto you unless you also believe the demonstration thereof from the Scriptures for the security of our faith ariseth from the demonstration of the holy Scripture 2dly That not the sayings or judgment of the Ancients but the clear Testimony of the Spirit of God speaking in the Scriptures is sufficient and efficacious for the satisfying persons that are dissatisfied in any thing relating to Faith or Worship Come to a poor soul under real scruples of spirit with respect to these and tell him this Father is of this opinion and that Father of that you do but oleum operam perdere when you have said all he remains as he was dissatisfied and so will do without evidence from Scripture More than these two things the Animadverter cannot righteously infer from the expression he discants on What saith he to these not a word more or less And I am apt to believe of Mr. T. that he is a man of greater modesty than to oppose them He tells us indeed that it may be of good use to satisfie mens consciences that no such separation as now is from the present Ministers of the Church of England was allowed of by the first Fathers and Writers what truth there is in this suggestion shall by and by be manifested He will not say surely of what good use he supposeth it to be that the faith of any is to be resolved into their testimony which it must be if what they say satisfie the scrupling conscience i. e. I must believe what they say is true because they say it else that they say it will never tend to my satisfaction which yet is an homage and duty that we owe to none but the Lord. A principle decryed and abhorred by the Ancients themselves The saying of Austin Epist 48. is known
make the Tabernacle For see saith he that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the Mount i. e. To the type and example set before him to imitate to which he was not to add the least pin of his own 1 Chr. 28. 11. The pattern of the Porch i. e. of the Temple saith Vatablus which David received either by revelation or by the hand of the Prophet 1 Chr. 28. 12 19. Exod. 8. 27. 39. 1 5 7 21 26 31 43. other places instanced in the S. T. preach forth the same thing These were types of the heavenly Ordinances in the Church of Christ Heb. 8. 5. And type out that nothing of man is to be superadded thereto but all things to be done according to Divine Commandment To the same thing doth the Spirit of the Lord bear witness Exod. 40. 23 25 29. Num. 8. 3. Exod. 35. 10 29. 36. 1 5. Isa 29. 13. To which may be further added Deut. 4. 1 2 40. Now therefore hearken O Israel unto the Statutes and Judgments which I teach you for to do them Ye shall not add to the Word which I command you neither shall you diminish ought from it that you may keep the Commandments of the Lord your God Thou shalt keep therefore his Statutes and Commandments which I command thee this day All which prove not only the obligation that lay upon them to conform to what was of the Institution of the Lord but the utter unlawfulness to add thereto or introduce any thing of their own in his service The ground of the acceptance of any Worship or Service offered to him being his Command and Institution and that with such evidence and brightness that it seems Mr. T. durst not look them in the face lest they shouâ—d have so reproved him as to have hindred his further advance in that good work and cause he was resolved having undertaken its defence to prosecute He only takes notice of two of these many places instanced in viz. Lev. 8. throughout which he grants speak of the investure of the Priests into their Office according to the Rites set down but whether any other might to these have been added to the sons of men he tells us not which yet he should have proved if he would have demolished and thrown down what it was his good pleasure to set himself against And he doth wisely not to approach too near this Scripture which stands with a two-edged Sword in its hand to defend the Truth opposed by this Animadverter No less than ten times viz. v. 4 5 9 13 17 21 29 34 35 36. The Commandment of the Lord is laid as the foundation of the whole of that procedure clearly importing that matters of this nature viz. things relating to his Worship are solely to be bottom'd on Divine Precepts and condemning and interdicting whatever of the like nature is offered to him on any other bottom Which Aaron's sons afterwards attempting to do Lev. 10. 1. perish in the flames of God's jealousie and wrath R. Menachem on Lev. 8. 36. hath these words In every other place it is said as the Lord commanded Moses but here because they added unto the Commandment he saith not so for they did not as the Lord had commanded and added moreover unto them strange Fire which he had not commanded them Lev. 10. 1. And Josephus b. 3. c. 9. saith thâ—s Nadab and Abihu bringing Sacrifices unto the Altar not such as were appointed by Moses but of that sort they were accustomed to offer aforetimes were burned by the violent flame that issued from the Altar that at length they died The other place he takes notice of is Isa 29. 13. which he refers to be discussed to the first chapter All the other places as was said are passed over in silence which manner of dealing is a great abuse both to the Truth and Reader To the Truth by waving the consideration of what is offered as the substratum upon which it is built To the Reader by pretending to answer to what is asserted by his Antagonist for the confirmation of Truth without advancing one step forward towards its confutation But perhaps he means not that where God hath given direction about any part of Worship it 's lawful to add any thing thereunto but onely wherein God hath not spoken and determined as touching the management of his Worship there the will of some of the children of men takes place and they may determine But if so 1. This is a most pitiful Petitio principii or begging the thing in question viz. That God hath not determined the whole of his Worship and Service but hath left somewhat to the wills of men relating to Worship as such to be determined by them which is the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or the thing in question and will never be granted him upon those terms 2dly Contrary to that fundamental principle placed in the nature of man and implyed and fairly intimated in each Scripture before instanced in that nothing in his Worship and Service is acceptable to him but what is of his own prescription 3dly Diametrically opposite to Deut. 4. 1 2. these additions let them be of what nature or in what case they will are additions to the Word of Jehovah Isa 29. 13. with Mark 7. 7. being evidently doctrines and institutions of men which the Spirit there tells us must have no place in the Worship of God That the Jews had their Service more fully particularized in all things pertaining to it than we have if he mean things relating to Service or Worship as such is spoken after the rate that a great many other things in this Treatise are viz. with confidence enough but without proof There being nothing relating to Gospel-Worship as such but is determined by Christ and appointed in the Scripture When he sends forth his Apostles Mat. 28. they were to teach what he had commanded them nothing more or less And he being Lord and Master of his House whose House are we Heb. 3. 6. who dares be so bold as to intermeddle with the affairs thereof without his appointment or can do so without an incroachment upon his Soveraignty He was faithful as Moses who received and revealed the Ordinances of the then House of God that he left nothing relating to the Worship thereof as such to the wills of men But of this more hereafter Sect. 8. Of the apostasie of the Jews from Divine Institutions The aim of the Author in remarking it It s application to the Church of England Whose Investions are expresly forbidden Of things in themselves out of the casâ— of Worship indifferent 'T is not in the power of the Church to make that which is left indifferent by the Lord a necessary Worship The judgement of the Protestant Writers Of the decency and order is in the Ceremonies of the Church of England Of their being imposed by Publick Authority How they draw from God
their Parish-Churches in the Marian dayes was that which scandalized the Magistrate disturbed as was said the Government excited the Magistrate against others as disobedient to his Laws whereby many persons were as to their Families and Estates undone they themselves lost their lives yet were they not to scandalize the Saints by adhering to the foresaid abominations 2. The Minor understood of a just ground of scandal is not true i. e. the Magistrate hath no real or just ground to be scandalized by persons not coming to hear the present Ministers nor is the Government disturbed thereby nor hath he as we know of any Scripture-Warrant to exert his power against the Non-conformists to their and their Families ruine and if he do so 't is better to suffer than sin to hazard the loss of all than debauch our Consciences and sin against God Sect. 2. Of Scandal taken and given Wherein the nature of it consists Of offening the World Hearing the present Ministers a scandal given 1 Cor. 8. 10. explained Of sitting in the Idols Temple Some of the Corinthians thought they might be present at the Sacrifice of Idols Of having fellowship with Devils 1 Cor. 10. 20. exponed The Judgment of the Learned Paraeus thereupon The offended Brother had not greater reason to be offended at persons eating the Idolothyte nor so great as we have at persons hearing the present Ministers Of the Scandalizing Mat. 18. 6. Rom. 14. 3. explained Of offence by forbearing to go to hear Mat. 17. 27. 1 Thes 5. 12. Heb. 13. 17. John 10. 27. Mark 4. 23. opened THE next attempt in S. T. is to answer Objections that might be made against what was in the foregoing Discourse in the matter of scandal argued by us The first is this Object 1. There is a two-fold scandal 1. A scandal or offence taken 2. A scandal or offence given In respect of the former possibly many may be offended at persons hearing the present Ministers that there is any just offence given by them herein is denied To this we answer 1. That as we admit of the distinction so no doubt there is a truth in what is suggested thereupon That whatever I do some one or other will be offended at it there are a Generation of men whom the doing my duty will offend and cause to blaspheme these are not to be minded but to be pittied To which Mr. T. replies Sect. 4. That there is any Generation of men whose offence is not to be minded is not the Doctrine of the Aposile but contrary to it 1 Cor. 10. 32 33. 9. 19 20 21 22 23. Answ Nor is it any doctrine delivered by us We say not That in matters of liberty we are not bound to heed giving offence to the World we believe the contrary But this we affirm thaâ— such persons as will be offended at me and blaspheme because I do my duty for so are the words are not to be heeded i. e. I am not to surcease what God requires me to do because they are offended and blaspheme which what is cited by Mr. T. doth not contradict That which follows touching hearing the Ministers of England being avowedly asserted upon this Foundation that it is lawful so to do we pass by as what we are not in the least concern'd to take notice of though there is indeed upon that supposition nothing of Argument in it We add in S. T. 2dly But 't is not yet proved nor like to be that the scandal treated of is a scandal taken and not given the very nature of scandal given as is confest by all and evident beyond exception from the Apostleâ— discourse 1 Cor. 8. 10. lying in the doing of what is judged by me to be my liberty but other Saints account my sin and from thence have occasion of grief and stumbling administred to them This was the very case of the Church of Corinth upon the occasion whereof Paul writes to them some of them judged it their liberty to sit at Meat in the Idols Temple others not being fully perswaded hereof were scandalized many wayes at this their practice which the Apostle therefore condemns as unlawful To which Mr. T. 1. 'T is not confest by all that the nature of scandal given lies in the doing what is judged by me to be my liberty which other Saints are ready to conclude to be my sin and from thence have occasion of grief and stumbling administred unto them Dr. Hammond Mâ— Jeans are otherwise minded Answ But Mr. T. abuseth us and his Reader we say not that scandal given lies in angring our Brother but evidently assert that there are two things that constitute it 1. It must be a matter that the giver of it judgeth to be his liberty and the receiver accounts his sin 2. It must administer occasion of stumbling grief and sorrow unto the scandalized i. e. he is either grieved troubled at it or by it influenced to sin against God And this I say is confest by all Nor do the Authors cited by him or he himself contradict this notion of scandal given so that the heat of this velication is allayed Pulveris exigni jactu He adds 2dly This Authors notion about the nature of scandal given is not evident beyond exceptions from the Apostles discourse 1 Cor. 8. 10. Answ 1. That the Apostle speaks there of scandal given Mr. T. will not deny 2. That the nature of the scandal lay in this the Corinthians eating the Idolothyte or sitting at meat in the Idols Temple wherewith others were scandalized many wayes 't was an occasion of causing them to eat the Idolothyte with a doubting Conscience or being wounded grieved discouraged in the way of Christianity 1 Cor. 8. 9. which he more plainly if possible expresseth Rom. 14. 13 15 20 21. which if it consort not with our notion of scandal given I know not what doth As for what follows we are little concern'd whilst he attempts not the confutation of what is asserted by us touching the nature of scandal given He tells us We are mistaken in these things 1. That the offending person judg'd it his liberty to sit at meat in the Idols Temple Answ But this is Mr. T. his mistake not mine 1 Cor. 8. 10. In the house of Idols saith the Arabick And the Learned Paraeus in 1 Cor. 10. 21. tells us That some of the Corinthians were of this Opinion That they might be present at the Sacrifices of the Idols Yea but saith our Animadverter this is ill applied however to the case of hearing for the sitting at meat in the Idols Temple was having fellowship with Devils 1 Cor. 10. 20. But this is the Service of the living God the hearers of the present Ministers judge it not only their liberty but their duty so to do Answ 1. If they judge it to be their duty they are able to produce some Scripture to evince it so to be let them do that and take the Cause 2. Many
Of their rise from the customs and manner of the Nations directly contrary to many precepts The introduction of mens Inventions into the Worship of God idolatrous Will-worship Idolatry The judgment of the Ancients and others thereabout A departure from the Institutions of God to the Customs of the Nations called in Scripture a forsaking of God Several Scriptures reviewed Of the Jews worshipping other Godds How these things are applicable to the Church of England IN Sect. 9. This Animadverter examines what was asserted in S. T. touching the Apostasie of the Church of the Jews from the pure Institutions of the Lord mingling therewith the Inventions of Men and Customs of the Nations of which God sorely complaines and for it severely punisheth them the Contests of God from first to last being bottomed upon this foot of account which as it relates to the People of the Jews he acknowledgeth the truth of But to apply these things with the threatnings and punishments in the places mentioned to the imposing or using of such Ceremonies as are retained in the Church of England is a gross abuse Answ 1. But who applied them hereunto The utmost of the Athors intention in this assertion was only to manifest That a Church might be wonderfully gathered and separated by the Lord out of the World taken near to himself for his People yet soon apostatize and depart from him which the Jews did From whence I thought it had been lawful to conclude That another Church or Churches except some special Priviledge or grant to the contrary given to them of the Lord could be produced might likewise apostatize from God which when applied to the Church of England as â—e calls it only amounts to thus much that supposing it once was a true Church 't is possible if it hath not already it may apostatize and depart from God which Mr. T. will not deny And that this was the utmost of my intendment in this matter is evident from Q. 7. P. 11. Where are these words Whether any Church in the world we speak of a visible instituted Church hath greater security against Apostasie from God and that sore Judgment of having its Candlestick removed and being unchurched than the People of the Jews had If not Then whether supposing a National Church of the Institution of Christ it may not so come to pass that it may be so overspread with corruptions that it may lose the essence of a Church and justly be disrobed of that appellation Yet upon second thoughts I see not that there is such a vast discrepancy betwixt the Inventions of men charged upon the Jews for which they were threatned and punished and the Inventions are to be found in the Church of England as this Animadverter would compel us to the belief of He tells us 1. That their Inventions were expresly forbidden And are not the Ceremonies of the Church of England Inventions of Men he grants at least some of them to be Now all the Inventions of man in the Worship of God relating to it as such were then and now expresly forbidden whilest he supposeth the contrary he doth but beg the Question by the second Commandment and elsewhere as hath been shewed The learned Dr. Willet in his Coment on the 2d Com. tells us That the true Worship of God which according to his nature must be spiritual is commanded in this 2d Precept and that he will be worshipped according to his Will revealed in his Word to which it is not lawful to add to or take any thing therefrom as the Lord said to Moses Exod. 25. 9. He further acquaints us That all other kinds of superstitious Worship devised by man which the Apostle calleth 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Will-worship Col. 2. 23. for we must saith he be contented with Rites and Ceremonies prescribed of God himself and the application of things of themselves indifferent so unto the Service of God as to make them a necessary part thereof is condemned by this Precept 2dly Mr. T. asserts That the Ceremonies of the Church of England are confessed out of the Case of Worship in themselves to be things indifferent Answ 1. And were there no Ceremonies amongst the Jews confessed out of the case of Worship to be so This Animadverter knows the contrary 2. By what authority doth any of the children of men make that necessary in case of Worship that is confessedly not so out of it i. e. make it a part of Worship for if necessary in case of Worship 't is evidently made a part thereof without which it cannot acceptablly be performed I confess Dr. Foen in Comitiis Oxon. An. 1605. one of their own Poets sings In Domini cultu si quid medium esse videtur Quod populti dubio stat cadit arbitrio Hoc Sacro-sancta parens Ecclesia si modo sanxit Inque sacris cultum hunc si velit esse ratum Non erit hic cultus medius cogetur ad illum Quisque necessarius hic quoque cultus erit Wherein he tels us That if any thing be indifferent in the Worship of God and Holy-Mother-Church shall establish and confirm it it ceaseth to be indifferent and becomes necessary Worship which every one is to be compelled to In which he speaks shall I say like a true Son of the Church of England or of Rome But he forgets to tell us upon what Scripture he bottoms these two Assertions First That there is any thing relating to the Worship of God as such of an indifferent nature Secondly That 't is in the power of the Church to make that which is left indifferent by the Lord a necessary Worship nor can he produce any but the unwritten Word or Law communicated to the Pope or his Conclave I know not when and kept I know not where which will prove no better at best than the proof the Jews bring for their Fopperies since their Apostacy and scattering abroad out of their Talmudical Writers or the Turks from their Alcoran i. e. frivolous and ridiculous This is generally decried and exploded by Protestant Writers Peter Martyr In Epist ad Hoop Episcop Glocest affirms of the English Ceremonies That Quoad aliter facere non liceat i. e. in their imposition as necessary parts of Worship they were grievous and burdensom Certain Princes of Germany to please Charles the Emperor Imposed the Surplice and other Rites upon the Ministers of their several Territories and are all condemned Supplicat Teolog German A. 1561. for this That they caused to sigh the Spirit of God and the hearts of good men It is Blasphemy to think that any outward thing may be made a Sign in the Church of any thing that is spiritual as the Cross in Baptism is unless it be expresly ordained in the Word and Commanded by God himself to be used to that end saith Lambert Danaeus Cont. Bellar. de Cult Sanct. Lib. 3. Cap. 7. Contrary whereto is the Doctrine of none of the Reformed Churches