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A57976	A peaceable and temperate plea for Pauls presbyterie in Scotland, or, A modest and brotherly dispute of the government of the Church of Scotland wherein our discipline is demonstrated to be the true apostolick way of divine truth, and the arguments on the contrary are friendly dissolved, the grounds of separation and the indepencie [sic] of particular congregations, in defence of ecclesiasticall presbyteries, synods, and assemblies, are examined and tryed / by Samuell Rutherfurd ...	Rutherford, Samuel, 1600?-1661.	1642 (1642)	Wing R2389; ESTC R7368	261,592	504

Pastor We desire an instance 2. All ordination by practise and precept in the New Testament is by more Pastors then one yea by a Colledge of Pastors which is cleare Acts 1. 13. the eleven Apostles were at the ordination of Matthias and the Apostle Peter presideth in the action And Acts 6. 2. the twelve Apostles did ordaine the seven Deacons ver 6. and prayed and laid their hands on them ver 6. It is vaine that Turre●remata and other Papists say that Peter himselfe alone might have chosen the seven Deacons See for this Whitgyft opposing Turrecremata and Whittaker Also see Acts 13. 1 2 3. Prophets and teachers with the Apostles sent Paul and Barnabas to preach to the Gentiles and they fasted and prayed and laid their hands on them So Paul and Barnabas if there were not more Pastors with them Acts 14. 23. appointed Elders in every Church with fasting and prayer Acts 20. 17. ver 28. There was a Colledge of preaching Elders at Ephesus and at Philippi Phil. 1. 2. Bishops and Deacons at Thessalonica 1 Thes. 9. 12. a multitude that is more then one Pastor that were over them in the Lord and laboured amongst them and admonished them ver 13 1 Tim 4. 14. a Colledge or Senate of Presbyters or Pastors who ordained Timothy by the laying on of hands 2. If ordination of Pastors in the word be never given to people or beleevers or to ruling Elders but still to Pastors as is cleare 1 Tim. 5. 22. Tit. 1. ver 5. Acts 6. 6. Acts 13. 3. 2 Tim. 1. 6. 1 Tim. 4. 14. And if ordination in the word of God be never in the power of one single Pastor except we bring in a Prelate into the Church then one Pastor with one single Congregation cannot exercise this point of discipline and so not all points of discipline 3. If the preaching Elders be charged by the Spirit of God to watch against grievous wolves speaking perverse things Acts 20. 29 30 3● and rebuked because they suffer them to teach false doctrine and commended because they try false teachers and cast them out Rev. 2. ver 14. ver 20. ver 2. if they be commanded to ordaine faithfull men 2 Tim. 2. 2. and taught whom they should ordaine Tit. 1. 5 6 7. 1 Tim. 3. ver 2 3 4 5. 1 Tim. 5. 22. and whom they should reject as unmeet for the worke of the Lord Then one Pastor and a single Congregation have not the power of this point of discipline and so they are not independent within themselves but the former is said by GODS Word Ergo so is the latter 2. Argument That government is not of God nor from the wisdome of Christ the law-giver that deviseth means of discipline for edifying the people by the keyes and omitteth meanes for edifying by the keyes the Elders of every particular congregation but the doctrine of independent Congregations is such Ergo this doctrine is not of God The proposition is cleare Christs perfect government hath wayes and meanes in his Testament to edifie all rankes and degrees of people for the perfecting of the body of his Saints Eph. 3. 11. 1 Cor. 5. 4 5. Mat. 18. 15 16. Iohn 20. 21 22 23. I prove the Assumption If a pastor and six or twelve Elders turne scandalous in their lives and unsound and corrupt in the Faith there is no way of gaining them by the power of the keyes for there be but three wayes imaginable 1. That they should censure and use the rod against themselves which is against nature reason and unwritten in the Word of God 2. They cannot be censured by Presbyteries and Synods for the doctrin of independent Congregations doth abhorre this And thirdly they cannot be censured by the multitude of believers for 1. The Lord hath not given the rod and power of edification such as Paul speaketh of 1 Cor. 4. 20 21. to the flocke over the over-seers 2. This is popular government and worse the flock made over-seers to the Shepheards the sons authorized to correct the fathers 3. We desire a pattern of this government from the word of God Our third argument is from many absurdities That doctrine is not sound from whence flow many absurdities contrary to Gods Word but from the doctrine of independent Congregations without subordination to Synods flow many absurdities contrary to Gods Word Ergò that doctrine is not sound The Major is out of controversie and is cleare for the Scriptures reason from absurdities 1 Cor. 15. 14 15. Iohn 8. 55. I prove the assumption as 1. The Prophets shall not be authoritatively judged by Prophets and Pastours but by the multitude contrary to that 1 Cor 14. 29. Let the Prophets speake two or three and let the other judge 2. Authoritative and judiciall excommunication was in the Pastors and Elders power 1 Co. 5. 4. 1 Tim. 1. 20. 2 Cor. 10. 8. 1 Cor. 4. 21. this doctrin ●u●teth authoritative and judiciall excommunication into the hands of all the people 3. All the assemblies of Pastours in the Apostolick Church for the discipline which concerned many Churches upon necessary causes shall be temporary and extraordinary and so not obliging us now as Acts 1. Act. 6. Act. 11. 1. Act. 8. 14. Act. 13. 1 2 3. Act. 15. Act. 21. 18 19. 1 Tim. 4. 14. and yet these same necessary causes of such assemblies as Divisions betwixt Grecians and Hebrewes heresies schismes remaine in the Church to the worlds end 4. Those who authoritatively governe and edi●ie the Church are men separated from the world not intangled with the affairs of this life 2 Tim. 2. 2 3 4 5. therefore if all the multitude governe and over-see both themselves and their guides they are not to remaine in their callings as trades-men servants merchant● lawyers c. but to give themselves wholly to the over-seeing of the Church contrary to that which the Word of God saith ordaining every man to abide in his calling 1 Cor. 7. 20 21 22. Col. 3. 22. 1 Thess. 4. 11. 5. Believers are over-seers to excommunicate deprive censure and authoritatively rebuke their pastors and so 1. pastors of pastors over-seers and watch-men over their Over-seers and Watch-men 2. The relation of pastor and flock of feeders and a people fed is taken away 3. That which the Scripture ascribeth to pastor● only 1 Tim. 5. 19 20. Tit. 1. 13. v. 9. is given to private professours 6. The brotherly consociation of the authority and power of jurisdiction in many sister-sister-Churches united together is taken away there is no Christian-communion of Church officers as Church officers 7. All particular Churches are left in case of errours to the immediate judgement of Christ and obnoxious to no Church censures suppose they consist of six or ten professours only 8. The grounds of the doctrine are these same arguments which Anabaptists and Socinians use against the places of Kings Judges Magistrates to wit that believers are free redeemed

They would not depresse and submit the immediately inspiring Apostelike spirit to mens consent so as men must give consent and say Amen to what God the authour of Scripture shall dite as Scripture This was a villifying and lessening of the authority of Scripture therfore necessarily hence it followeth this was an Ecclesiasticall degrace of an Assembly They object twelfthly That Paul and Barnabas went up to Jerusalem not to submit their iudgement to the Apostles for then they had not been infallible neither for the necessity of an assembly or because Congregations depend d●th on assemblies but they did it 1. to conciliate authority to the Decrees 2. To stop the mouthes of false Apostles who alleadged that the Lords Apostles stood for circumcision otherwise Paul himselfe might have determined the point Answ. 1. Paul as an ordinary Pastor howbeit not as an Apostle was to submit to a Synod in this case as an Apostle he might have excommunicated the incestuous Corinthian without the Church but it shall not follow that Paul did write to the Corinthians to excommunicate him for no necessity of a Church-court and Synod but onely to conciliate authority to excommunication and to stop the mouthes of enemies 2. I aske what authority doe they meane 1. authority of brotherly advise But these Decrees bind as the Decrees of the Church v. 28. chap. 16. 4. chap. 21. v. 25. 2 If they meane authority Ecclesiasticall the cause is ours 3. If they meane authority of divine Scripture then this Decree must have more authority th●n other Scriptures which were not penned by common consent of all beleevers 4. This is a bad consequence Paul could have determined the point his alone Ergo there was no need of a Councell for the Scriptures and many holy Pastors determine that Christ is equall with God the Father It followeth not that therefore there is no need of one Councell to condemne ●rrius They object 13. There were no Commissioners at this assembly from the Churches of Syria and Cilicia therefore it was not an assembly obliging Ecclesiastically all the Churches of the Gentiles Answ. 1. Suppose Syria and Cilicia had no Commissioners here which yet we cannot grant but give only yet Ierusalem and Antioch had their Commissioners which maketh the meeting formally and ess●ntially a Synod of many particular Churches met synodically in one for there were many single Pari●hionall congregations both at Ierusalem and at Antioch 2. We doubt not but the Apostles who wrote to them the Decrees of the assembly advertised them also of that Apostolike remedy for determining the question seeing they writ to them ver 24. We have heard that some have troubled you with words sub●erting your soules saying ye must be circumcised Ergo the Apostles tendred their s●lvation therefore we are to thinke that Syria and Cilicia had their Commissioners here What if they neglected to send á facto ad ius non valet consequentia they should have sent Commissioners This assemblies Decrees did lay a tye and bond upon the Churches of Syria and Cilicia then it did either tye them as a counsell and advise or or as a part of Scripture or thirdly as a Decree of an Ecclesiasticall Synod If the first be said this Canon doth not lay a command upon them the contrary whereof we find v. ●8 it layeth a burthen on them chap. 16. 4. chap. 21. 28. and Decrees that they must keep The second is unanswerably confuted in answering the tenth objection If the third be said we obtaine what we seeke and so they should have sent Commissioners otherwise the Decrees of Synods shall oblige Ecclesiastically Churches who are not obliged to be present in their Commissioners which neither we nor they can affirme 14. They object That this is not one of our Synods for the multitude of beleevers had voices here And the whole multitude spake for it is said v. 12. Then all the multitude keept silence and gave audience And Whittaker saith they had decisive voices but in your Synods none have voyces but only the Eldership Answ. 1. That the faithfull speake propose and reason our booke of discipline saith So saith Zuinglius Beza yea the Fathers as Cyprian and others Who will not have Acts made against the peoples co●sent it is like the multitude speake but orderly seeing the Holy Ghost was here v 28. Whittaker saith only it is like that some of the multitude spake And what marvell then many should speake seeing it was untruth that any of Moses Law which was also Gods Law should be abrogated 2. The Church may send in some cases learned and holy men to Synods who are neither Pastors Elders nor Doctors So was here 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 brethren that is choise and able men otherwise beleeving women and the whole Church of beleevers com● under the name of brethren in Scripture Parker saith well The materiall ground of commissioners at assemblies is their gifts and holinesse the formall ground is the Church calling and sending them 3. That the whole multitude had definitive voices is first against what we have said expounding these words Mat. 18. Tell the Church 2. It is a meere popular government refuted before 3. I reason from the end of the Synod These onely had definitive votes who met together synodically for to consider of this question but these were only Apostles and Elders v. 6. including brethren who only had place to judge as Bullinger and Calvin saith and not the multitude 4. The Canons are denomin●ted 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Decrees ordained by the Apostles and Elders Acts 16. 4. Acts 21. 25. 5. By what warrant could the brethren at Ierusalem give Lawes to brethren of other independent congregations of Syria and Cilicia and these also who were absent So this ●hall be no Syn●d 6. I grant the Epistle is sent in the name of all For 1. to send greeting in an Epistle is not an act of jurisdiction but a sort of Christian kindness● 2. It was done by common consent of all 3. It added some more authority 4. It is possible the sending of the Decrees required charges and expences 15. The Female replyer to M. Edwards the reason saith she why the Church of Antioch sent the matter to be d●cided at Jerusalem was because the parties were members of the Church of Jerusalem Acts 15. 1. certaine men which came from Judaea taught the brethren c. v. 24. They went out from us and this proveth independency of Churches for the Church of Antioch judged it an unequall thing to iudge members of the Church of Ierusalem Answ. 1. Let it be that contenders for ceremonies were of the sect of the Pharisees yet the soules of these of Antioch were subverted v. 24. If Antioch had been independent they could have determined the truth to prevent subversion of soules who ever were the authors of that wicked doctrine but their sending their commissioners to