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how_o late_o the_o breed_n be_v for_o i_o be_o well_o assure_v that_o passim_fw-la cyprian_a use_v the_o word_n clerus_fw-la for_o the_o clergy_n ordinary_o who_o be_v little_o more_o than_o a_o hundred_o year_n after_o ignatius_n and_o origen_n 7._o before_o he_o mention_v this_o distinction_n of_o the_o clergy_n and_o laity_n tertullian_n who_o live_v in_o the_o same_o century_n with_o ignatius_n distinguish_v each_o company_n of_o christian_n as_o sometime_o clero_fw-la into_o gregem_fw-la &_o deuce_n the_o flock_n and_o the_o guide_n ecclesia_n ordinem_fw-la &_o laicos_fw-la the_o order_n of_o the_o church_n mean_v those_o which_o be_v in_o order_n and_o the_o lay_v people_n so_o sometime_o in_o ecclesiam_fw-la &_o clerum_fw-la the_o assembly_n and_o the_o clergy_n the_o clergy_n also_o or_o guide_v he_o distinguish_v into_o these_o three_o degree_n deacon_n presbyter_n bishop_n the_o ancient_a canon_n call_v the_o apostle_n etc._n often_o mention_v those_o of_o the_o clergy_n as_o 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sunt_fw-la domini_fw-la vel_fw-la quia_fw-la ipse_fw-la dominus_fw-la sor_n i._o pars_fw-la clericorum_fw-la est_fw-la either_o because_o they_o be_v the_o lord_n portion_n which_o notation_n some_o late_a writer_n do_v mislike_v not_o without_o cause_n the_o people_n also_o be_v god_n inheritance_n or_o because_o the_o lord_n be_v their_o portion_n which_o be_v agreeable_a with_o the_o scripture_n his_o other_o answer_n be_v ministry_n that_o though_o the_o presbyter_n and_o deacon_n be_v of_o the_o clergy_n yet_o they_o be_v not_o minister_n for_o there_o be_v many_o of_o the_o clergy_n which_o be_v not_o minister_n let_v he_o therefore_o tell_v i_o whether_o there_o be_v any_o minister_n in_o the_o clergy_n adjoin_v to_o the_o bishop_n or_o not_o if_o he_o say_v no_o he_o be_v worthy_a to_o be_v hiss_v at_o if_o yea_o who_o be_v these_o minister_n if_o the_o presbyter_n and_o deacon_n be_v not_o beside_o it_o be_v plain_a that_o the_o clergy_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n consist_v 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be_v over_o the_o flock_n of_o one_o parish_n the_o jurisdiction_n of_o the_o bishop_n be_v over_o the_o whole_a diocese_n the_o presbyter_n be_v private_a in_o the_o court_n of_o conscience_n the_o bishop_n public_a and_o in_o the_o external_a court_n also_o the_o presbyter_n govern_v the_o people_n only_o of_o one_o flock_n the_o bishop_n govern_v not_o only_o the_o people_n of_o the_o whole_a diocese_n but_o the_o presbyter_n also_o themselves_o the_o presbyter_n receive_v institution_n unto_o their_o jurisdiction_n from_o the_o bishop_n and_o exercise_v it_o under_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o diocese_n who_o hahave_v as_o the_o council_n of_o 24._o antioch_n and_o jerome_n say_v the_o care_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n or_o diocese_n admit_v the_o presbyter_n in_o partem_fw-la solicitudinis_fw-la into_o part_n of_o their_o care_n by_o give_v they_o institution_n to_o their_o several_a parish_n the_o presbyter_n do_v answer_v to_o the_o son_n of_o aaron_n and_o be_v the_o successor_n of_o the_o 70._o disciple_n as_o diverse_a of_o the_o father_n do_v teach_v but_o the_o bishop_n answer_n to_o aaron_n and_o be_v the_o successor_n of_o the_o apostle_n as_o i_o prove_v by_o the_o testimony_n of_o jerome_n montan._n who_o say_v that_o in_o the_o true_a church_n bishop_n do_v hold_v the_o place_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o of_o irenaeus_n 3._o that_o the_o apostle_n leave_v the_o bishop_n their_o successor_n deliver_v unto_o they_o their_o own_o place_n of_o government_n to_o all_o this_o the_o refuter_fw-la make_v a_o dilatory_a answer_n not_o purpose_v indeed_o to_o answer_v these_o allegation_n at_o all_o of_o these_o point_n i_o purpose_v not_o say_v he_o to_o say_v any_o thing_n in_o this_o place_n because_o the_o former_a concern_v the_o difference_n of_o the_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n jurisdiction_n must_v present_o be_v dispute_v the_o latter_a be_v to_o be_v discuss_v in_o the_o last_o point_n of_o his_o five_o and_o thus_o have_v he_o by_o a_o cleanly_a 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and_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o congregation_n and_o again_o 25._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o the_o bishop_n have_v the_o power_n or_o authority_n of_o those_o thing_n which_o belong_v to_o the_o church_n and_o this_o authority_n the_o bishop_n have_v from_o the_o beginning_n for_o as_o what_o be_v at_o the_o first_o give_v to_o the_o church_n be_v lay_v at_o the_o apostle_n foot_n so_o afterward_o what_o be_v contribute_v be_v commit_v say_v 2._o justine_n martyr_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o the_o bishop_n hereof_o you_o may_v read_v more_o conc._n gangr_n c._n 7._o &_o 8._o council_n tol._n 3._o c._n 19_o &_o 4_o c._n 32._o balsam_n in_o council_n carth._n gr._n c._n 36._o alius_fw-la 33._o as_o touch_v person_n person_n they_o be_v distinguish_v at_o the_o first_o into_o clericos_fw-la &_o laicos_fw-la unto_o who_o afterward_o a_o three_o sort_n be_v add_v viz._n monachi_fw-la monastical_a person_n who_o though_o they_o be_v sequester_v from_o the_o company_n and_o society_n of_o secular_a man_n as_o they_o count_v they_o yet_o be_v they_o not_o exempt_v from_o the_o jurisdiction_n of_o the_o bishop_n the_o great_a council_n of_o chalcedon_n 4._o determine_v that_o no_o man_n shall_v build_v a_o monastery_n any_o where_o or_o house_n of_o prayer_n without_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o city_n and_o that_o those_o which_o in_o every_o city_n or_o country_n 〈◊〉_d do_v lead_v a_o monastical_a life_n shall_v be_v subject_a to_o the_o bishop_n see_v more_o c._n 8._o conc._n afric_n c._n 47._o agath_fw-mi c._n 27._o &_o 58._o theod._n balsam_n say_v 83._o that_o monk_n be_v more_o subject_a to_o the_o bishop_n then_o to_o the_o governor_n of_o the_o monastery_n as_o touch_v the_o laity_n i_o say_v serm._n sect_n 10._o pag._n 46._o to_o pag._n 47._o l._n 6._o i_o shall_v not_o need_v to_o prove_v the_o bishop_n authority_n over_o the_o people_n of_o their_o diocese_n 5._o if_o i_o demonstrate_v their_o rule_n over_o the_o presbyter_n thereof_o 98._o etc._n etc._n not_o need_n say_v the_o refuter_fw-la yeâ—_n you_o must_v prove_v the_o power_n of_o censure_v the_o people_n to_o be_v their_o only_a right_n unless_o you_o yield_v that_o preeminence_n to_o be_v give_v they_o jure_fw-la humano_fw-la as_o indeed_o it_o must_v be_v see_v they_o have_v it_o not_o potestate_fw-la ordinis_fw-la by_o the_o power_n of_o their_o order_n the_o refuter_fw-la be_v to_o be_v bear_v with_o if_o he_o talk_v at_o random_n see_v he_o be_v as_o it_o seem_v out_o of_o his_o element_n the_o thing_n which_o i_o be_v to_o prove_v if_o it_o have_v be_v needful_a be_v that_o whereas_o presbyter_n do_v govern_v each_o one_o the_o people_n of_o a_o parish_n and_o that_o private_o the_o bishop_n govern_v the_o people_n of_o the_o whole_a diocese_n and_o that_o public_o the_o which_o i_o hold_v needless_a to_o prove_v because_o before_o it_o be_v prove_v that_o they_o have_v the_o charge_n of_o the_o whole_a diocese_n
into_o the_o communion_n then_o by_o he_o who_o do_v excommunicate_v he_o while_o he_o live_v which_o canon_n be_v ratify_v in_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a 5._o in_o these_o word_n as_o touch_v those_o which_o be_v excommunicate_a whether_o they_o be_v of_o the_o clergy_n or_o laity_n by_o the_o bb._n in_o every_o province_n let_v that_o canon_n be_v observe_v that_o those_o that_o be_v excommunicate_v of_o one_o shall_v not_o go_v to_o another_o etc._n etc._n the_o council_n of_o 4._o antioch_n decree_v that_o if_o any_o b._n be_v depose_v by_o a_o synod_n or_o a_o presbyter_n or_o deacon_n by_o his_o own_o b._n shall_v presume_v before_o they_o be_v restore_v by_o a_o synod_n to_o exercise_v their_o ministry_n their_o degree_n shall_v be_v unrecoverable_a and_o that_o they_o which_o communicate_v with_o they_o shall_v be_v cast_v out_o of_o the_o church_n again_o 6._o if_o any_o of_o the_o laity_n or_o clergy_n whether_o presbyter_n or_o deacon_n &c._n &c._n shall_v be_v excommunicate_v by_o his_o own_o b._n he_o may_v not_o be_v receive_v of_o another_o and_o yet_o again_o 12._o if_o any_o presbyter_n or_o deacon_n be_v depose_v by_o their_o own_o bishop_n etc._n etc._n the_o council_n of_o sardica_n 13._o forbid_v a_o bishop_n to_o receive_v a_o presbyter_n or_o deacon_n etc._n etc._n who_o he_o know_v to_o have_v be_v excommunicate_v by_o his_o own_o bishop_n again_o 14._o if_o any_o b._n through_o choler_n shall_v rash_o excommunicate_v a_o presbyter_n or_o deacon_n it_o shall_v be_v lawful_a for_o they_o to_o appeal_v to_o the_o metropolitan_a exuperantius_n a_o presbyter_n be_v excommunicate_v by_o triferius_fw-la his_o bishop_n for_o some_o misdeamenour_n towards_o he_o the_o council_n of_o taurin_n 4._o leave_v his_o restitution_n to_o the_o arbitrement_n of_o the_o bishop_n by_o who_o he_o have_v be_v excommunicate_v the_o council_n of_o carthage_n 7._o decree_v that_o they_o which_o receive_v those_o which_o be_v excommunicate_v shall_v be_v guilty_a of_o the_o same_o fault_n with_o they_o who_o do_v fly_v from_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o canonical_a sentence_n of_o their_o own_o b._n out_o of_o the_o same_o council_n 8._o i_o cite_v before_o a_o decree_n concern_v presbyter_n which_o be_v condemn_v of_o their_o own_o bishop_n and_o in_o the_o 133.134_o african_a council_n there_o be_v another_o decree_n concern_v clergy_n man_n of_o what_o degree_n soever_o that_o have_v be_v condemn_v by_o the_o judgement_n of_o their_o bishop_n in_o the_o 4._o council_n of_o carthage_n 55._o it_o be_v decree_v that_o the_o bishop_n shall_v excommunicate_v the_o accuser_n of_o their_o brethren_n and_o that_o if_o they_o do_v repent_v he_o shall_v receive_v they_o unto_o the_o communion_n but_o not_o into_o the_o clergy_n the_o council_n of_o ephesus_n 5._o that_o if_o any_o for_o their_o misdeed_n be_v condemn_v either_o by_o a_o synod_n or_o their_o own_o bishop_n shall_v be_v restore_v by_o nestorius_n or_o his_o complice_n either_o to_o the_o communion_n or_o to_o their_o degree_n that_o they_o shall_v notwithstanding_o remain_v excommunicate_v or_o depose_v the_o council_n of_o agatha_n 2._o appoint_v that_o disobedient_a clerk_n shall_v be_v correct_v of_o their_o bishop_n in_o the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n there_o be_v a_o canon_n 23._o concern_v such_o clerk_n as_o be_v excommunicate_v by_o their_o own_o bishop_n get_v themselves_o to_o the_o city_n of_o constantinople_n etc._n etc._n in_o the_o same_o council_n carosus_n 4._o use_v these_o word_n they_o be_v bishop_n they_o have_v power_n to_o excommunicate_v and_o to_o condemn_v these_o testimony_n for_o counsel_n may_v suffice_v for_o i_o will_v not_o descend_v to_o those_o of_o latter_a time_n the_o late_a which_o i_o have_v cite_v be_v the_o 4._o general_a council_n for_o example_n the_o like_a plenty_n may_v be_v show_v of_o they_o who_o have_v be_v excommunicate_v or_o depose_v by_o the_o b._n thus_o alexander_n depose_v 2._o arius_n 3._o 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odious_a and_o absurd_a assertion_n to_o i_o but_o why_o be_v not_o the_o maiority_n of_o rule_n in_o the_o bishop_n hence_o prove_v and_o the_o subjection_n of_o presbyter_n to_o he_o as_o to_o their_o ruler_n to_o be_v guide_v and_o direct_v by_o he_o see_v they_o be_v charge_v to_o do_v nothing_o without_o his_o direction_n and_o warrant_n what_o can_v be_v more_o plain_a forsooth_o the_o like_a phrase_n be_v use_v can._n 35._o and_o conc._n antioch_n c._n 9_o where_o bb._n be_v enjoin_v to_o do_v nothing_o without_o the_o sentence_n of_o the_o archbishop_n nor_o he_o in_o their_o parish_n without_o the_o sentence_n or_o appointment_n of_o they_o all_o if_o therefore_o the_o maiority_n of_o rule_n in_o bb._n may_v be_v prove_v from_o this_o canon_n then_o in_o like_a manner_n from_o the_o other_o two_o canon_n the_o maiority_n of_o rule_n not_o only_o in_o archbishop_n in_o those_o day_n over_o bb._n but_o also_o of_o bishop_n in_o their_o parish_n over_o the_o archbishop_n but_o the_o consequent_a be_v false_a in_o both_o the_o part_n of_o it_o the_o former_a for_o there_o be_v no_o archbishop_n in_o those_o day_n the_o latter_a because_o bb._n have_v not_o authority_n over_o archishop_n therefore_o the_o antecedent_n also_o be_v untrue_a here_o the_o refuter_fw-la under_o some_o show_n of_o learning_n have_v bewray_v much_o ignorance_n for_o first_o as_o touch_v the_o proposition_n his_o reason_n be_v unlike_a and_o his_o allegation_n out_o of_o the_o 35._o 34._o canon_n be_v untrue_a the_o bishop_n of_o every_o nation_n mâ—st_v agnize_v he_o that_o be_v the_o first_o or_o primate_n among_o they_o and_o esteem_v he_o as_o the_o chief_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d it_o be_v not_o say_v as_o in_o the_o canon_n by_o i_o cite_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d simple_o as_o the_o refuter_fw-la cit_v it_o but_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v there_o no_o difference_n between_o these_o two_o speech_n to_o do_v nothing_o simple_o and_o to_o do_v nothing_o more_o or_o exceed_v their_o own_o bound_n for_o that_o this_o be_v the_o meaning_n of_o the_o canon_n the_o word_n follow_v do_v plain_o declare_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o that_o they_o do_v only_o those_o thing_n which_o appertain_v to_o their_o own_o see_v and_o the_o country_n under_o it_o but_o more_o plain_o in_o the_o council_n of_o antioch_n 9_o that_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o bishop_n do_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d nothing_o more_o than_o those_o thing_n only_o which_o concern_v every_o man_n own_o church_n and_o country_n which_o be_v under_o it_o and_o that_o you_o shall_v not_o understand_v they_o as_o the_o refuter_fw-la do_v without_o understanding_n they_o add_v for_o every_o bishop_n have_v authority_n of_o his_o own_o city_n both_o to_o govern_v according_a to_o the_o fear_n of_o god_n which_o he_o have_v and_o to_o have_v care_n of_o all_o the_o country_n as_o also_o to_o ordain_v presbyter_n and_o deacon_n and_o to_o administer_v everthe_v with_o judgement_n and_o yet_o i_o do_v not_o deny_v but_o that_o the_o metropolitan_n be_v superior_a to_o their_o comprovinciall_a bishop_n in_o the_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n although_o all_o bishop_n whatsoever_o be_v equal_a in_o the_o power_n of_o order_n neither_o shall_v the_o bishop_n by_o the_o like_a reason_n be_v superior_a to_o the_o archbishop_n in_o their_o parish_n as_o he_o ignorant_o add_v for_o the_o canon_n do_v not_o speak_v of_o the_o several_a bishop_n in_o their_o diocese_n which_o he_o absurd_o call_v parish_n but_o of_o the_o whole_a company_n of_o they_o assemble_v in_o a_o provincial_a synod_n say_v that_o he_o must_v do_v nothing_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d without_o the_o consent_n of_o they_o all_o howsoever_o therefore_o either_o the_o metropolitan_a or_o any_o other_o of_o the_o bishop_n in_o their_o own_o several_a diocese_n may_v do_v those_o thing_n which_o concern_v their_o own_o proper_a charge_n yet_o 2._o provincial_a business_n which_o exceed_v the_o bound_n of_o any_o one_o man_n charge_n be_v to_o be_v dispatch_v in_o provincial_a counsel_n wherein_o the_o metropolitan_a be_v to_o be_v acknowledge_v as_o the_o chief_a and_o precedent_n thereof_o who_o call_v they_o together_o and_o moderate_v the_o assembly_n but_o so_o as_o the_o bishop_n may_v do_v nothing_o without_o he_o several_o so_o he_o may_v do_v nothing_o without_o they_o all_o joint_o and_o as_o he_o be_v superior_a to_o they_o several_o so_o be_v he_o inferior_a to_o they_o all_o joint_o that_o be_v to_o the_o synod_n the_o assumption_n likewise_o in_o the_o former_a part_n of_o it_o be_v false_a and_o the_o reason_n of_o it_o also_o for_o there_o be_v metropolitan_n in_o the_o first_o two_o hundred_o year_n and_o they_o be_v superior_a in_o the_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n to_o their_o bishop_n but_o before_o he_o will_v let_v this_o testimony_n pass_v he_o have_v one_o point_n of_o ignorance_n more_o to_o show_v and_o that_o be_v because_o archishop_n be_v mention_v c._n 35_o alias_o 34._o therefore_o these_o canon_n be_v none_o of_o the_o apostle_n nor_o any_o other_o above_o a_o hundred_o he_o will_v not_o say_v whatsoever_o he_o think_v two_o hundred_o year_n after_o they_o for_o archbishop_n be_v not_o hatch_v so_o reverentlie_o he_o speak_v a_o long_a time_n after_o all_o man_n be_v judge_n the_o antiquity_n of_o these_o canon_n i_o have_v touch_v before_o show_v that_o within_o little_o more_o than_o two_o hundred_o year_n after_o the_o apostle_n time_n they_o be_v then_o account_v ancient_a canon_n but_o to_o the_o point_n if_o he_o speak_v of_o the_o name_n archbishop_n it_o be_v not_o mention_v in_o the_o canon_n call_v the_o apostle_n if_o of_o the_o office_n of_o a_o metropolitan_a which_o be_v mean_v in_o the_o aforesaid_a canon_n i_o have_v prove_v before_o that_o it_o have_v be_v ever_o since_o the_o apostle_n time_n those_o learned_a man_n which_o hold_v archbishop_n to_o be_v of_o a_o latter_a edition_n by_o that_o name_n understand_v patriarch_n and_o those_o of_o 2._o sort_n be_v either_o so_o call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o the_o patriarch_n of_o rome_n constantinople_n alexandria_n antioch_n and_o jerusalem_n or_o such_o as_o be_v more_o usual_o call_v archbishop_n or_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d governor_n of_o large_a province_n be_v in_o a_o degree_n between_o metropolitan_n and_o patriarch_n which_o seem_v to_o have_v be_v ordain_v in_o the_o first_o council_n of_o constantinople_n as_o socrates_n 8._o witness_v hence_o it_o be_v that_o isidor_n clericis_fw-la say_v ordo_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la quadripartitus_fw-la est_fw-la i._o in_o patriarchis_fw-la archiepiscopis_fw-la metropolitis_fw-la atque_fw-la episcopis_fw-la and_o the_o same_o distinction_n be_v note_v in_o the_o council_n of_o 17._o chalcedon_n and_o in_o the_o audientia_fw-la code_n 22._o and_o constitution_n of_o justinian_n and_o in_o the_o 88_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d make_v by_o leo_n the_o emperor_n etc._n etc._n to_o the_o same_o purpose_n i_o allege_v the_o ancient_a council_n of_o arles_n 19_o that_o presbyter_n may_v do_v nothing_o without_o the_o knowledge_n and_o consent_n of_o their_o bb._n and_o of_o ancyra_n the_o most_o ancient_a approve_a council_n that_o be_v extant_a defective_a non_fw-la licere_fw-la presbyteris_fw-la civitatis_fw-la sine_fw-la episcopi_fw-la praecepto_fw-la amplius_fw-la aliquid_fw-la imperare_fw-la nec_fw-la sine_fw-la authoritate_fw-la literarum_fw-la eius_fw-la in_o unaquaque_fw-la parochia_fw-la aliquid_fw-la agere_fw-la that_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a for_o the_o presbyter_n of_o the_o city_n to_o do_v any_o thing_n of_o importance_n without_o the_o bishop_n appointment_n noâ—_n to_o do_v any_o thing_n in_o any_o parish_n without_o the_o authority_n of_o his_o letter_n to_o these_o i_o add_v the_o first_o council_n of_o toledo_n 20._o sine_fw-la conscientia_fw-la episcopi_fw-la nihil_fw-la pâ—nitâ—â—_n presbyteri_fw-la agere_fw-la praesummunt_fw-la let_v the_o presbyter_n presume_v to_o do_v nothing_o at_o all_o without_o the_o knowledge_n and_o consent_n of_o the_o bishop_n and_o forasmuch_o as_o for_o a_o poor_a evasion_n he_o allege_v that_o these_o council_n by_o i_o cite_v though_o the_o ancient_a that_o be_v extant_a be_v under_o age_n which_o ill_o become_v he_o to_o object_n who_o have_v no_o witness_n to_o the_o contrary_a before_o this_o present_a age_n i_o will_v therefore_o produce_v one_o or_o two_o more_o who_o live_v in_o the_o apostle_n time_n and_o converse_v with_o they_o ignatius_n therefore_o in_o a_o epistle_n which_o the_o refuter_fw-la have_v before_o cite_v say_v magnes_fw-la that_o neither_o presbyter_n nor_o deacon_n ought_v to_o do_v any_o thing_n without_o the_o b._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d neither_o let_v any_o thing_n seem_v reasonable_a unto_o you_o which_o be_v do_v without_o his_o warrant_n to_o he_o i_o will_v adjoine_v a_o testimony_n of_o clement_n wish_v the_o reader_n to_o credit_v it_o
no_o further_o than_o he_o see_v cause_n he_o jacob_n therefore_o report_v it_o as_o a_o doctrine_n of_o peter_n that_o no_o presbyter_n ought_v to_o do_v any_o thing_n in_o any_o bishop_n parish_n or_o diocese_n without_o his_o permission_n and_o that_o all_o presbyter_n ought_v without_o delay_n to_o be_v obedient_a to_o their_o bb._n in_o all_o thing_n §_o 14._o but_o as_o i_o prove_v that_o presbyter_n may_v do_v nothing_o without_o the_o bishop_n appointment_n or_o consent_n baptize_v so_o i_o note_v especial_o those_o thing_n which_o belong_v to_o their_o power_n of_o order_n as_o the_o action_n of_o their_o ministry_n to_o baptize_v to_o celebrate_v the_o communion_n to_o preach_v to_o say_v the_o public_a liturgy_n or_o divine_a service_n as_o touch_v baptism_n i_o allege_v tertullian_n baptism_n testify_v that_o the_o bishop_n have_v the_o right_a to_o give_v baptism_n then_o the_o presbyter_n and_o the_o deacon_n but_o yet_o not_o without_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o bishop_n for_o the_o honour_n of_o the_o church_n that_o be_v the_o honour_n due_a unto_o he_o in_o the_o church_n which_o be_v safe_a peace_n be_v safe_a where_o note_n in_o tertullia_n time_n within_o the_o first_o two_o hundred_o year_n the_o bishop_n be_v so_o great_o honour_v that_o the_o peace_n of_o the_o church_n be_v suppose_v to_o depend_v on_o the_o honour_n of_o the_o bishop_n as_o jerome_n also_o speak_v &_o that_o the_o ordinary_a right_n of_o baptise_v be_v primary_o in_o the_o bishop_n secondary_o in_o the_o presbyter_n &_o deacon_n but_o not_o to_o be_v exercise_v by_o they_o without_o his_o authority_n whereas_o extraordinary_o and_o in_o case_n of_o necessity_n lay_v man_n in_o his_o judgement_n may_v baptize_v to_o this_o the_o refuter_fw-la give_v five_a answer_n but_o never_o a_o good_a one_o as_o first_o that_o tertullian_n speak_v not_o of_o their_o iuresdiction_n in_o the_o apostle_n time_n or_o afâ—er_n by_o authority_n from_o they_o he_o speak_v nor_o de_fw-fr facto_fw-la but_o de_fw-la jure_fw-la nothing_o what_o right_a bishop_n have_v and_o he_o show_v the_o ordinary_a right_n of_o baptise_v which_o the_o presbyter_n have_v be_v not_o without_o the_o bishop_n authority_n 2._o that_o the_o preeminence_n he_o give_v they_o be_v for_o the_o honour_n of_o the_o church_n and_o preservation_n of_o peace_n what_o then_o be_v this_o peculiar_a to_o his_o time_n be_v they_o not_o as_o careful_a of_o the_o honour_n of_o the_o church_n and_o preservation_n of_o peace_n in_o the_o apostle_n time_n as_o after_o 3._o neither_o do_v he_o speak_v of_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o bishop_n in_o general_a but_o of_o a_o honour_n give_v he_o in_o one_o particular_a and_o for_o one_o particular_a belong_v to_o the_o power_n of_o order_n do_v i_o allege_v it_o that_o have_v prove_v this_o point_n in_o general_a i_o may_v also_o show_v it_o in_o the_o particular_n which_o can_v otherwise_o be_v do_v but_o sigillation_n one_o by_o one_o yea_o but_o this_o honour_n no_o one_o particular_a may_v well_o be_v in_o a_o titular_a bishop_n that_o have_v no_o such_o jurisdiction_n titular_a bishop_n in_o the_o primitue_a church_n be_v such_o as_o have_v the_o name_n and_o title_n but_o not_o the_o authority_n of_o a_o bishop_n grant_v to_o they_o such_o a_o one_o be_v meletius_n who_o by_o the_o censure_n of_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a 6._o be_v not_o to_o have_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o authority_n but_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o bar_n name_n of_o a_o bishop_n and_o such_o be_v 8._o novatian_a bishop_n return_v to_o the_o church_n permit_v to_o be_v if_o the_o catholic_a bishop_n will_v gratify_v they_o with_o the_o name_n and_o title_n of_o a_o bishop_n i_o read_v of_o eustathius_n pamphyl_n the_o metropolitan_a b._n of_o pamphylia_n who_o be_v desirous_a to_o lead_v a_o more_o quiet_a and_o solitary_a life_n give_v up_o his_o bishopric_n whereupon_o theodorus_n be_v choose_v in_o his_o room_n for_o it_o be_v not_o meet_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o the_o church_n shall_v continue_v a_o widow_n and_o that_o the_o flock_n â—f_v our_o saviour_n shall_v remain_v without_o a_o governor_n but_o he_o afterward_o repent_v he_o of_o the_o abdication_n of_o his_o bishopric_n put_v up_o a_o petition_n to_o the_o council_n of_o ephesus_n that_o he_o may_v at_o the_o least_o retain_v the_o name_n and_o honour_n of_o a_o bishop_n at_o his_o request_n the_o council_n write_v to_o the_o synod_n of_o pamphylia_n that_o he_o may_v have_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o name_n the_o honour_n and_o communion_n of_o a_o bishop_n but_o yet_o so_o as_o that_o neither_o he_o do_v ordain_v nor_o take_v upon_o he_o the_o charge_n of_o the_o church_n shall_v perform_v sacred_a action_n by_o his_o own_o authority_n thus_o we_o see_v who_o be_v titular_a bishop_n in_o the_o primitive_a church_n such_o as_o be_v gratify_v with_o the_o name_n but_o want_v the_o office_n and_o authority_n of_o a_o bishop_n as_o for_o those_o who_o have_v the_o office_n of_o a_o bishop_n of_o who_o tertullian_n speak_v they_o have_v also_o vigorem_fw-la episcopatus_fw-la the_o vigour_n of_o the_o episcopal_a office_n whereof_o cyprian_a so_o oft_o speak_v and_o the_o sway_n of_o authority_n ecclesiastical_a be_v in_o their_o hand_n insomuch_o that_o presbyter_n and_o deacon_n who_o by_o the_o power_n of_o their_o order_n have_v right_a to_o baptitize_v may_v not_o even_o in_o tertullia_n time_n exercise_v that_o power_n but_o by_o authority_n from_o the_o bishop_n in_o the_o four_o place_n the_o refuter_fw-la object_v that_o these_o presbyter_n be_v not_o ordinary_a minister_n of_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n 101._o but_o such_o as_o he_o and_o his_o fellow_n dream_v of_o because_o tertullian_n in_o the_o very_a next_o word_n affirm_v alioquin_fw-la etiamlaicis_fw-la iut_a est_fw-la otherwise_o lay_v man_n also_o may_v baptize_v that_o the_o presbyter_n be_v minister_n i_o have_v manifest_o prove_v before_o and_o i_o have_v note_v already_o that_o tertullian_n signify_v the_o ordinary_a right_n of_o baptise_v to_o be_v in_o the_o bishop_n presbyter_n &_o deacon_n that_o yet_o extraordinary_o and_o in_o the_o case_n of_o necessity_n lay_v man_n may_v baptize_v and_o so_o jerome_n lucifer_n seem_v to_o exhound_n tertullia_n meaning_n hence_o it_o be_v that_o without_o chrism_n which_o 36._o the_o presbyter_n of_o the_o several_a parish_n be_v to_o fetch_v from_o their_o b._n and_o without_o the_o commandment_n of_o the_o bishop_n neither_o presbyter_n nor_o deacon_n have_v right_a to_o baptize_v which_o notwithstanding_o we_o know_v to_o be_v oft_o time_n lawful_a for_o lay_v man_n to_o do_v si_fw-la tamen_fw-la necessitas_fw-la cogit_fw-la but_o yet_o so_o if_o necessity_n do_v compel_v but_o nothing_o be_v more_o evident_a than_o that_o the_o presbyter_n be_v minister_n by_o that_o which_o have_v heretofore_o be_v deliver_v whereunto_o this_o help_v somewhat_o that_o tertullian_n oppose_v presbyter_n and_o deacon_n to_o layman_n this_o objection_n the_o refuter_fw-la thought_n to_o prevent_v by_o say_v that_o the_o govern_v elder_n and_o deacon_n be_v account_v among_o the_o clergy_n which_o also_o be_v a_o unlearned_a assertion_n for_o to_o omit_v the_o argument_n which_o before_o be_v bring_v to_o prove_v that_o the_o presbyter_n and_o deacon_n be_v degree_n of_o the_o sacred_a ministry_n it_o be_v plain_a that_o the_o clergy_n of_o each_o diocese_n be_v a_o company_n of_o such_o as_o be_v train_v up_o in_o learning_n it_o be_v the_o seminary_n of_o the_o whole_a diocese_n and_o as_o they_o profit_v in_o year_n learning_n and_o piety_n so_o they_o be_v prefer_v to_o be_v reader_n than_o exorcist_n then_o acolythi_o then_o subdeacons_a after_o that_o deacon_n than_o presbyter_n out_o of_o who_o ordinary_o be_v choose_v the_o bishop_n and_o moreover_o the_o presbyter_n and_o deacon_n with_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o clergy_n have_v all_o their_o maintenance_n according_a to_o their_o place_n and_o degree_n in_o the_o church_n and_o therefore_o our_o disciplinarian_o if_o they_o will_v have_v such_o presbyter_n and_o deacon_n as_o be_v in_o the_o primitive_a church_n they_o must_v fetch_v they_o from_o the_o university_n and_o school_n of_o learning_n as_o we_o do_v and_o maintain_v they_o by_o the_o charge_n of_o the_o church_n as_o well_o though_o not_o with_o so_o large_a allowance_n as_o the_o bishop_n his_o last_o evasion_n for_o none_o of_o his_o answer_n be_v better_o be_v that_o the_o low_a tertullian_n speak_v of_o may_v well_o be_v and_o be_v on_o a_o parish_n bishop_n the_o presbyter_n be_v subject_a to_o he_o as_o his_o assistant_n for_o that_o one_o church_n but_o parish_n bishop_n such_o as_o they_o speak_v of_o and_o lay_v elder_n be_v of_o one_o edition_n never_o hear_v of_o before_o our_o age_n for_o the_o more_o manifest_a proof_n whereof_o i_o refer_v
authority_n over_o they_o or_o reprove_v for_o suffer_v they_o and_o if_o they_o be_v not_o presbyter_n because_o they_o call_v themselves_o apostles_n be_v like_a they_o be_v better_a man_n be_v it_o not_o then_o against_o sense_n to_o deny_v that_o presbyter_n be_v subject_a to_o the_o censure_n of_o the_o bishop_n because_o he_o imagine_v these_o who_o be_v subject_a to_o their_o censure_n be_v better_a man_n whatsoever_o they_o be_v whether_o presbyter_n or_o in_o a_o high_a degree_n whether_o of_o the_o bishop_n presbytery_n or_o not_o whether_o of_o his_o diocese_n original_o or_o come_v from_o other_o place_n it_o be_v plain_a that_o they_o be_v teacher_n and_o that_o be_v in_o their_o diocese_n the_o bishop_n have_v authority_n either_o to_o suffer_v they_o to_o preach_v or_o to_o inhibit_v they_o to_o retain_v they_o in_o the_o communion_n of_o their_o church_n or_o to_o expel_v they_o my_o other_o reason_n that_o bb._n have_v corrective_a power_n over_o the_o presbyter_n be_v because_o timothe_n and_o titus_n have_v such_o power_n over_o the_o presbyter_n of_o ephesus_n and_o crect_n as_o i_o prove_v by_o most_o evident_a testimony_n out_o of_o paul_n epistle_n 1.5_o write_v to_o they_o 1.3.5.19.20.21.22.6.14_o and_o epiphanius_n 75._o his_o inference_n on_o these_o word_n to_o timothe_n against_o a_o presbyter_n receive_v not_o thou_o a_o accusation_n but_o under_o two_o or_o three_o witness_n etc._n etc._n therefore_o say_v he_o presbyter_n be_v imperium_fw-la subject_a to_o the_o b._n as_o to_o their_o judge_n to_o my_o inference_n out_o of_o s._n paul_n he_o answer_v that_o timothe_n and_o titus_n be_v not_o bb._n and_o that_o i_o shall_v never_o prove_v they_o be_v i_o desire_v therefore_o the_o reader_n to_o suspend_v his_o judgement_n until_o he_o come_v to_o the_o proof_n on_o both_o side_n and_o if_o he_o shall_v not_o find_v my_o proof_n for_o their_o be_v bb._n to_o be_v better_a than_o he_o to_o the_o contrary_a let_v he_o believe_v i_o in_o nothing_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n let_v he_o know_v that_o if_o the_o general_a consent_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n deserve_v any_o credit_n for_o a_o matter_n of_o fact_n then_o must_v it_o be_v grant_v that_o timothe_n and_o titus_n be_v bishop_n against_o epiphanius_n he_o object_v that_o he_o take_v for_o grant_v that_o which_o aerius_n constant_o deny_v but_o this_o be_v one_o of_o his_o presumptuous_a and_o malapeit_a conceit_n for_o when_o epiphanius_n prove_v against_o aerius_n that_o bishop_n be_v superior_a to_o other_o presbyter_n because_o timothe_n be_v take_v it_o for_o grant_v that_o timothe_n be_v a_o bishop_n what_o moderate_a or_o reasonable_a man_n will_v think_v otherwise_o but_o that_o this_o assertion_n that_o timothe_n be_v a_o bishop_n be_v such_o a_o receive_a truth_n as_o he_o know_v aërius_n himself_o will_v not_o deny_v it_o serm._n sect_n 12._o pag._n 50._o but_o consider_v also_o the_o presbyter_n as_o sever_v in_o place_n from_o the_o bishop_n cure_n and_o affix_v to_o their_o several_a cure_n etc._n etc._n to_o offender_n pag._n 52._o my_o first_o argument_n to_o prove_v the_o jurisdiction_n of_o bishop_n over_o presbyter_n assign_v to_o their_o several_a cure_n be_v that_o when_o any_o place_n in_o the_o country_n be_v void_a the_o bishop_n assign_v a_o presbyter_n to_o they_o out_o of_o his_o presbytery_n which_o as_o have_v be_v say_v before_o calvin_n confess_v and_o be_v a_o evident_a argument_n as_o to_o prove_v the_o jurisdiction_n of_o the_o bishop_n over_o the_o country_n parish_n and_o presbyter_n thereof_o so_o to_o demonstrate_v that_o the_o bishop_n be_v diocesan_n this_o reason_n because_o he_o can_v not_o answer_v he_o will_v as_o his_o manner_n be_v persuade_v the_o reader_n that_o it_o be_v needless_a second_o i_o allege_v that_o these_o presbyter_n may_v do_v nothing_o but_o by_o authority_n from_o the_o bishop_n from_o who_o they_o have_v their_o jurisdiction_n and_o therefore_o be_v subject_a to_o he_o as_o their_o ruler_n three_o 103._o that_o they_o be_v subject_a to_o his_o judgement_n and_o censure_n these_o two_o point_n with_o their_o proof_n he_o pass_v over_o as_o if_o he_o make_v haste_n to_o the_o reason_n follow_v which_o he_o suppose_v to_o be_v the_o weak_a for_o this_o be_v his_o manner_n to_o pass_v by_o in_o brevity_n or_o in_o silence_n the_o best_a proof_n and_o if_o he_o meet_v with_o any_o thing_n which_o seem_v to_o he_o weak_a than_o the_o rest_n there_o he_o rest_v like_o aâ—lie_n in_o a_o raw_a place_n but_o by_o his_o leave_n i_o will_v insist_v a_o little_a on_o these_o two_o point_n and_o first_o for_o the_o former_a point_n in_o general_a the_o ancient_a council_n of_o laodicea_n have_v ordain_v that_o country_n bishop_n may_v do_v nothing_o without_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o b._n in_o the_o city_n in_o like_a manner_n command_v the_o presbyter_n 57_o to_o do_v nothing_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d without_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o b._n the_o same_o have_v damasus_n chorepiscopis_fw-la who_o have_v speak_v of_o country_n bishop_n in_o like_a manner_n say_v this_o must_v be_v hold_v concern_v presbyter_n ut_fw-la sine_fw-la iussu_fw-la proprij_fw-la episcopi_fw-la nihilagant_a that_o they_o do_v nothing_o without_o the_o commandment_n of_o their_o own_o b._n to_o omit_v those_o action_n that_o belong_v to_o the_o power_n of_o order_n which_o i_o have_v already_o prove_v they_o can_v not_o perform_v without_o licence_n and_o authority_n from_o the_o bishop_n consider_v how_o in_o respect_n of_o their_o person_n those_o of_o the_o clergy_n be_v subject_a to_o the_o bishop_n to_o be_v dispose_v by_o he_o first_o he_o have_v authority_n to_o promote_v they_o from_o one_o degree_n to_o another_o as_o he_o see_v cause_n insomuch_o 56._o that_o if_o they_o refuse_v to_o be_v promote_v by_o he_o they_o be_v to_o loose_v that_o degree_n from_o which_o they_o will_v not_o be_v remove_v second_o they_o may_v not_o remove_v 27._o from_o one_o diocese_n to_o another_o without_o his_o consent_n if_o they_o do_v he_o have_v authority_n to_o call_v they_o back_o or_o if_o any_o other_o bishop_n shall_v ordain_v any_o of_o his_o clerk_n without_o his_o consent_n or_o letter_n dimissory_a 〈◊〉_d and_o in_o that_o church_n prefer_v he_o to_o a_o high_a degree_n his_o own_o b._n may_v reverse_v that_o ordination_n &_o bring_v he_o again_o to_o his_o own_o church_n con._n nic._n c._n 16._o arel_n 2._o c._n 13._o sard._n c_o 15._o constant._n in_o trullo_n c._n 17._o venet._n c._n 10_o epaun._n c._n 5._o three_o they_o may_v not_o so_o much_o as_o travel_v from_o one_o city_n to_o another_o without_o the_o b._n licence_n &_o his_o commendatory_a 〈◊〉_d letter_n this_o be_v decree_v by_o the_o council_n of_o laodicea_n 41._o and_o diverse_a other_o as_o con._n agath_fw-mi c._n 38._o epaunens_n c._n 6._o aurelian_a 3._o c._n 15._o venet._n c._n 5._o turon_n c._n 11.12_o hereby_o the_o reader_n will_v easy_o discern_v that_o the_o whole_a clergy_n of_o every_o diocese_n be_v subject_a to_o the_o b._n as_o to_o their_o ruler_n presbyter_n and_o that_o he_o be_v their_o judge_n it_o be_v evident_a cyprian_n controversy_n testify_v that_o heresy_n and_o schism_n arise_v hence_o that_o the_o bishop_n be_v not_o obey_v nec_fw-la uâ—us_fw-fr in_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la ad_fw-la tempus_fw-la sacerdos_fw-la &_o ad_fw-la tempus_fw-la index_n vice_fw-la christi_fw-la cogitatur_fw-la neither_o be_v one_o b._n in_o the_o church_n and_o one_o judge_v for_o the_o time_n in_o the_o stead_n of_o christ_n acknowledge_v first_o in_o their_o controversy_n for_o when_o clerk_n 5â—_n be_v at_o variance_n the_o b_o shall_v bring_v they_o to_o concord_n either_o by_o reason_n or_o by_o his_o power_n if_o there_o be_v a_o controversy_n between_o clerk_n say_v the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n 9_o they_o shall_v not_o forsake_v their_o own_o b._n but_o first_o their_o cause_n shall_v be_v try_v before_o he_o and_o if_o in_o their_o suit_n they_o think_v themselves_o 126._o wrong_v in_o their_o bishop_n court_n than_o be_v they_o either_o to_o seâ—ke_v to_o the_o next_o bb_n 9_o if_o the_o matter_n can_v not_o be_v differ_v to_o the_o next_o synod_n or_o else_o they_o may_v appeal_v sancimus_fw-la to_o the_o metropolitan_a or_o provincial_a synod_n but_o that_o the_o b._n shall_v be_v overrule_v control_v or_o censure_v by_o his_o own_o presbytery_n it_o be_v never_o hear_v of_o unless_o it_o be_v by_o way_n of_o insurrection_n or_o rebellion_n second_o in_o cause_n criminal_a criminal_a that_o the_o presbyter_n and_o other_o of_o the_o clergy_n be_v subject_a to_o the_o bb._n censure_n it_o be_v every_o where_o almost_o in_o the_o ancient_a canon_n and_o counsel_n either_o express_v or_o presuppose_v if_o any_o presbyter_n or_o deacon_n say_v the_o ancient_a canon_n 32._o be_v excommunicate_v by_o the_o b._n he_o may_v not_o be_v receive_v by_o another_o
answer_n for_o it_o appear_v that_o neither_o the_o apostle_n or_o apostolical_a man_n be_v bishop_n be_v simple_o bind_v to_o use_v the_o council_n of_o the_o presbyter_n but_o that_o the_o use_n of_o they_o be_v voluntary_a after_o the_o example_n of_o moses_n as_o jerome_n say_v and_o the_o ancient_a bishop_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n who_o be_v of_o the_o best_a disposition_n as_o cyprian_n by_o name_n do_v follow_v their_o example_n resolve_v to_o do_v nothing_o of_o moment_n without_o their_o counsel_n and_o advise_v seek_v therein_o the_o good_a and_o peace_n of_o the_o church_n and_o this_o custom_n be_v use_v by_o all_o godly_a bishop_n until_o as_o i_o say_v the_o presbyter_n advise_v and_o assistance_n to_o themselves_o seem_v troublesome_a and_o to_o the_o b._n by_o reason_n of_o the_o frequent_a synod_n and_o synodall_n constitution_n needless_a grow_v out_o of_o use_n whereupon_o canon_n be_v make_v that_o their_o counsel_n and_o assistance_n shall_v be_v require_v a_o have_v in_o great_a matter_n which_o be_v not_o mislike_v but_o wish_v to_o be_v more_o use_v and_o so_o much_o may_v suffice_v to_o have_v answer_v a_o objection_n which_o the_o refuter_fw-la do_v not_o acknowledge_v i_o proceed_v therefore_o to_o the_o three_o ordinance_n which_o be_v as_o it_o be_v the_o shoote-anchor_n of_o the_o disciplinarian_o which_o fail_v their_o discipline_n will_v suffer_v shipwreck_n presbyter_n and_o bishop_n be_v all_o one_o therefore_o bishop_n be_v to_o know_v that_o they_o be_v great_a than_o the_o presbyter_n rather_o by_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n then_o by_o the_o truth_n of_o divine_a disposition_n to_o this_o objection_n i_o return_v two_o answer_n the_o first_o that_o where_o jerome_n say_v episcopus_fw-la and_o presbyter_n be_v all_o one_o it_o may_v be_v undertake_v of_o the_o name_n which_o he_o prove_v by_o many_o 5._o testimony_n to_o be_v confound_v in_o the_o write_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o in_o this_o sense_n it_o be_v true_a that_o whereas_o now_o episcopus_fw-la be_v more_o than_o presbyter_n it_o be_v to_o be_v ascribe_v to_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n as_o before_o i_o have_v note_v out_o of_o theodoret_n and_o in_o the_o same_o sense_n augustine_n hier._n be_v to_o be_v understand_v when_o he_o say_v according_a to_o the_o name_n of_o honour_n in_o which_o the_o use_n of_o the_o church_n have_v prevail_v episcopatus_fw-la bishopship_n be_v a_o name_n of_o great_a honour_n than_o presbyterium_fw-la the_o refuter_fw-la come_v to_o examine_v this_o answer_n say_v i_o deny_v the_o antecedent_n when_o as_o indeed_o i_o grant_v the_o antecedent_n in_o that_o sense_n which_o i_o give_v in_o the_o answer_n deny_v the_o consequence_n that_o although_o the_o distinction_n of_o the_o name_n be_v not_o by_o divine_a disposition_n but_o by_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n yet_o that_o hinder_v not_o but_o the_o function_n may_v be_v of_o apostolical_a institution_n see_v they_o which_o at_o the_o 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