and the other High Constable that this was done in destruction of the Estates of the Realm and of the Laws of the Kingdom and therefore adjudged Treason and the Judgment sent down into the King's Bench as appears Easter Term in the 17th year of R. 2. in the King's-Bench Rot. 16th These two Lords had appeared in the 11th of R. 2. in maintainance of the Act of Parliament made in the year before one of them was of the Commissioners appointed by Parliament and one of the Appealors of those who would have overthrown it The Duke of Lancaster likewise was one of the Lords that was to have been Indicted of Treason for endeavouring the maintenance of it and therefore conspiring of their deaths is said to be in destruction of their Laws This there is declared to be Treason that concerned the Person of the King and Common-wealth In that great insurrection of the Villains and meaner People in Richard the II. time they took an Oath Quod Regi Communibus fidelitatem servarent to be true to the King and Commons and that they would take nothing but what they paid for punished all theft with death here 's no Intendment against the Person of the King The intent was to establish the Laws of Villanage and Servitude to burn all the Records to kill the Judges This in the Parliament of the 5th year of R. 2. No 31 32. the First Part is declared to be Treason against the King and against the Law In the 11th year of R. 2. in Parliament the raising of Forces against the Commissioners appointed by Act of Parliament the year before adjudged Treason by the Judges The Statute Jmo Mary Cap. 12. Enacts That if 12 or more shall endeavour by force to alter any of the Laws or Statutes of the Kingdom he shall from such a time there limited be adjudged only as a Felon This Act was to continue but to the next Parliament it is expired it shews by the words only that the offence was higher before the making it My Lords In Queen Elizabeths time Grant and divers Apprentices of London to the number of 200. rose and assembled at Tower-hill carried a Cloak upon a Pole instead of a Banner their intent was to deliver divers Apprentices out of Prison that had been committed upon a Sentence in the Star-Chamber for Riots to kill the Lord Major of London and for setting prizes on Victuals In Trinity Term 37 Eliz. divers of the Judges were consulted withal and resolved That this was a Levying of War against the Queen being intended against the Government and Officers of the Queen and therefore Grant and others were executed as Traytors Afterwards in that Queens time divers of the County of Oxford consulted to go together from House to House in that County and thence to London and other parts to excite them to take up Arms for the throwing in of all inclosures throughout England Nothing was done nor no assembly Yet the Statute of 13 Eliz. Cap. 1. during the Queens Life made it Treason to intend or advise to Levy War against the Queen In Easter Term 39 of Eliz. all the Judges of England met about the Case it was resolved by them that this was a War intended against the Queen they agreed That if it had been of one Township or more upon private interest and claim of right of Common it had not been Treason but this was to throw in all Inclosures through the Kingdom whereunto these parties should pretend no claim That it was against the Law in regard that the Statute of Merton gave power of Inclosures in many Cases upon this resolution Bradsaw and Burton were executed at Aynestowhill in Oxfordshire the place where they intended the first Rendezvous So that my Lords if the end of it be to overthrow any of the Statutes any part of the Law and setled Government or any of the great Officers intrusted with the execution of them This is a War against the King My Lords It will be further considerable what shall be accounted a Levying of War in respect of the Actions and things done there 's a design to alter some part of the Laws and present Government for the effecting thereof People be provided of Arms gathered together into Troops but afterwards march not with Banners displayed nor do Bellum percutere whether the Army themselves and gathering together upon this design be a War or such prosecution of the Design with force as makes it Treason within the Statute First If this be not a War in respect that it necessarily occasions hostile preparations on the other side Secondly From the words of the Statute shall Levy War and be thereof probably Attainted of open Deed by People of their condition although the bare conspiring be not an open Deed yet whether the Arming and drawing of men together be not an open Declaration of War In Sir Thomas Talbot's Case before cited in the Seventeenth year of R. II. the Acts of Force are expressed in the Parliament Roll That he caused divers of the People of the County of Chester to be Armed in a Warlike manner in Assemblies here is no Marching no Banners displayed In the Eighth year of Hen. VIII William Bell and Thomas Lacy in Com. Kanc. conspired with Thomas Cheyney called the Hermet of the Queen of Faries to overthrow the Law and Customs of the Realm and for the effecting of it they with Two hundred more met together and concluded upon a course of raising greater Forces in the County of Kent and the adjacent Shires This adjudged Treason these were open Acts. My Lords For the application of both these to the case in question First In respect of the end of it here was a War against the King it was to subvert the Laws this being the design for the effecting of it he assumed to his own Person an Arbitrary Power over the Lives Liberties and Estates of His Majesties Subjects and determined Causes upon Paper-Petitions at his own Will and Pleasure Obedience must be forced by the Army this is declared by the Warrant My Lords If it be said that the Warrant expresseth not any intent of subverting the Laws It expresseth fully one of the principal means whereby this was to be done that is obedience to his Arbitrary Orders upon Paper-Petitions This was done in reference to the main design In the cases of the Town of Cambridge and Sir William Cogan they have formerly been cited to your Lordships upon other occasions the things in themselves were not Treason they were not a Levying of War In that of Cambridge the Town met together and in a forcible manner broke up the University-Treasury and took of it the Records and Evidences of the Liberties of the University over the Town In the other they of Bridgewater marched to the Hospital and compelled the Master of the Hospital to deliver unto them certain Evidences that concerned the Town and forced him to enter into a Bond of
might be determined according to Law and not by himself at his Will and Pleasure upon Paper-Petitions Thirdly Upon like occasion of Pressing the Laws and Statutes that he would make an Act of Council-Board in that Kingdom as Binding as an Act of Parliament Fourthly He made his Words good by his Actions Assumed and Exercised a Boundless and Lawless Jurisdiction over the Lives Persons and Estates of His Majesties Subjects procured Judgment of Death against a Peer of that Realm Commanded another to be Hanged this was accordingly Executed both in times of High Peace without any Process or Colour of Law Fifthly By Force of a long time he Seized the Yarn and Flax of the Subjects to the Starving and undoing of many thousands besides the Tobacco business and many Monopolies and Unlawful Taxes forced a New Oath not to dispute His Majesties Royal Commands determined Mens Estates at his own Will and Pleasure upon Paper-Petitions to himself forced Obedience to these not only by Fines and Imprisonment but likewise by the Army sessed Soldiers upon the Refusers in an Hostile manner Sixthly Was an Incendiary of the War between the two Kingdoms of England and Scotland My Lords We shall leave it to your Lordships Judgments whether these words Counsels and Actions would not have been a sufficient Evidence to have Proved an Indictment drawn up against him as those before mentioned and many others are That they were spoken and done to the Intent to draw the King's heart from the People and the Affections of the People from the King that they might leave the King and afterwards rise up against him to the destruction of the King if so here is a Compassing of the King's Death within the Words of the Statute of 25th year of Edward the Third and that Warranted by many former Judgments My Lords I have now done with the Three Treasons within the Statute of the Twenty fifth of Edward the 3d. I proceed unto the 4th upon the Statute of the Eighteenth year of Henry the 6th Chapter the third in Ireland and I shall make bold to read the words to your Lordships That no Lord nor any other of what condition soever he be shall bring or lead Hoblers Kernes or Hooded Men nor any other People nor Horses to lye 〈◊〉 Horseback or on Foot upon the King's Subjects without their good wills and consent but upon their own Costs and without hurt doing to the Commons and if any so do he shall be adjudged as a Traytor 1. The Argument that hath been made concerning the Person that it extends not to the King and therefore not to him weighs nothing with your Lordships Rex non habet in Regno parem from the greatness of his Office to argue himself into the same inpossibility with His Sacred Majesty of being incapable of High-Treason it 's an Offence no Treason The words in the Statute No Lord nor any other of what condition soever he be include every Subject In Trinity Term in the Three and thirtieth year of Henry the Eighth in the King's-Bench Leonard Lord Gray having immediately before been Lord-Deputy of Ireland is Attainted of High-Treason and Judgment given against him for letting diverse Rebels out of the Castle of Dublin and discharging Irish Hostages and Pledges that had been given for securing the Peace for not punishing one that said That the King was an Heretick I have read the whole Record there 's not one thing laid to his Charge but was done by him as Lord Lieutenant He had the same Plea with my Lord of Strafford That these things were no adhering to the King's Enemies but were done for Reasons of State that he was not within those words of the Statute of the 25 of Edw. 3. himself being Lord-Lieutenant there Object It hath been said That the Soldiers sessed upon the Subjects by him were not such persons as are intended by that Statute Hoblers Kernes and Hooded Men those Rascally people Answ My Lords they were the names given to the Soldiery of those times Hoblers Horsemen the other the Foot But the words of the Statute go further Nor any other People neither Horse nor Foot His Lordship sessed upon them both Horse and Foot Object The Statute extends only to those that lead or bring Savil led them my Lord only gave the Warrant Answ To this I shall only say thus Plus peccat author quam Actor by the rule of the Law Agentes consentientes pari plectuntur poena if consent much more a Command to do it makes the Commander a Traytor If there be any Treason within this Statute my Lord of Strafford is Guilty It hath been therefore said That this Statute like Goliah's Sword hath been wrapt up in a Cloath and laid behind the door that it hath never been put in Execution My Lords if the Clerk of the Crown in Ireland hath certified your Lordships upon search of the Judgments of Attainders in Ireland he could not find that any man had been attainted upon this Statute your Lordships had had some ground to believe it Yet it 's only my Lord of Strafford's Affirmation besides your Lordships know that an Act of Parliament binds until it be repealed It hath been therefore said That this Statute is repealed by the Statute of the 8 Ed. 4. Cap. 1. and of the 10th of Hen. 7. Cap. 22. because by these two Statutes the English Statutes are brought into Ireland The Argument if I mistook it not stood thus That the Statute of the First of Henry the 4th the 10th Chap. saith That in no time to come Treason shall be adjudged otherwise then it was ordained by the Statute of the 25 E. 3. that the reason mentioned in the Eighteenth year of Henry the Sixth in the Irish Statute is not contained in the 25 Edw. 3. and therefore contrary to the Statute of the 1 Hen. 4. it must needs be void If this were Law then all the Statutes that made any new Treason after the First of Henry the 4th were void in the very Fabrick and at the time when they were made hence likewise it would follow that the Parliament now upon what occasion soever have no Power to make any thing Treason not declared to be so in the Statute 25 Edw. 3. This your Lordships easily see would make much for the Lord of Strafford's advantage but why the Law should be so your Lordships have only as yet heard an Affirmation of it no reason But some touch was given that the Statute of the Tenth year of Henry the Seventh in words makes all the Irish Statutes void which are contrary to the English The Answer to this is a denial that there are any such words in the Statute The Statute declares that the English Statutes shall be effectual and confirmed in Ireland and that all the Statutes made before-time to the contrary shall be revoked This repeals only the Irish Statutes of the Tenth year of Henry the Fourth and the Nine and twentieth
year of Henry the Sixth which say that the English Statutes shall not be in force in Ireland unless particularly received in Parliament it makes all the Irish Statutes void which say that the English Statutes shall not be in force there It is usual when a Statute sayes that such a thing shall be done or not done to add further that all Statutes to the contrary shall be void No likelihood that this Statute intended to take away any Statute of Treason but when in the Chapter next before this Murder there is made Treason as if done upon the Kings person That this Statute of the Eighteenth year of Henry the Sixth remains on foot and not repealed either by the Statute of the Eighth year of Edward the Fourth or this of the Tenth year of Henry the Seventh appears expresly by two several Acts of Parliament made at the same Parliament of the tenth year of Henry the Seventh By an Act of Parliament of Henry the Sixth's time in Ireland it was made Treason for any Man whatsoever to procure a Privy-Seal or any other Command whatsoever for apprehending any Person in Ireland for Treason done without that Kingdom and to put any such Command in Execution divers had been attainted of Treason for executing such Commands There is a Treason so made by Act of Parliament in Henry the Sixth's time In the third Chapter of this Parliament of the tenth of Henry the Seventh an Act is passed for no other end then to repeal this Statute of Henry the Sixth of Treason If this Statute of Henry the Sixth of Treason had been formerly repealed by the Statute of 8 E 4. or then by the two and twentieth Chapter of this Parliament of the 10th of Henry the Seventh by bringing in the English Statutes the Law-makers were much mistaken now to make a particular Act of Parliament to repeal it it being likewise so unreasonable an Act as it was In the Eighth Chapter of this Parliament of the 10th of Henry the Seventh it is Enacted that the Statutes of Kilkenny and all other Statutes made in Ireland two only excepted whereof this of the Eighteenth of Henry the Sixth is none for the Common-Weal shall be enquired of and executed My Lord of Strafford saith that the bringing in of the English Statute hath repealed this Statute the Act of Parliament made the same time saith no it saith that all the Irish Statutes excepting two whereof this is none shall still be in force Object Oh but however it was in the 10 H. 7. yet it appears by Judgment in Parliament afterwards that this Statute of 18 H. 6. is repealed and that is by the Parliament of the 11th year of Queen Elizabeth the 7th Chapter that by this Parliament it is Enacted That if any Man without Licence from the Lord-Deputy lay any Soldiers upon the Kings Subjects if he be a Peer of the Realm he shall forfeit one hundred pounds if under the degree of a Peer One hundred Marks This Statute as is alleadged declares the Penalty of laying Soldiers on the Subjects to be only one hundred pounds and therefore it s not Treason Answ My Lords if the Offence for which this Penalty of one hundred pounds is laid upon the Offenders be for laying Soldiers or leading them to do any Act Offensive or Invasive upon the Kings People the Argument hath some force but that the Offence is not for laying Soldiers upon the true Subjects that this is not the Offence intended in the Statute will appear to your Lordships Ex absurdo from the words of it The Words are That if any Man shall assemble the People of the County together to conclude of Peace or War or shall carry those People to do any Acts Offensive or Invasive then he shall forfeit One hundred pounds If concluding of War and carrying the people to Acts Invasive be against the Kings Subjects this is High-Treason which are the words of the Statute of 25 E. 3. for if any Subject shall assemble the people and conclude a War and accordingly shall lead them to invade the Subject this is a levying of War within the words of the Statute and then the Statutes of the 25 E. 3. 1 H. 4. 1 of Queen Mary which the Earl of Strafford in his Answers desires to be tryed by are as well repealed in this point as the Statute of the 18th of Henry the Sixth he might then without fear of Treason have done what he pleased with the Irish Army for all the Statutes of levying of War by this Statute of 11 Eliz. were taken out of his way In Ireland a Subject gathers Forces concludes a War against the Kings People actually invades them bloodshed burning of houses depredations ensue two of those that is Murder and burning of Houses are Treason and there the other Felony by the construction the punishment of Treason and Felony is turned only into a fine of One hundred pounds from loss of Life Lands and all his Goods only to loss of part of his Goods The Third Absurdity a War is concluded three several Inrodes are made upon the Subjects in the first a hundred pounds damage in the second five thousand pounds damage in the third ten thousand pounds damage is done to the Subjects the penalty for the last inroade is no more then for the first only one hundred pounds This Statute by this Construction tells any man how to get his living without long labour Two parts of the hundred pounds is given to the King a third part unto the Informer Here 's no damage to the Subject that is robbed and destroyed My Lords The Statute will free it self and the makers from those Absurdities The meaning of the Statute is That if any Captain shall of his own head conclude of Peace or War against the Kings Enemies or Rebels or shall upon his own head invade them without Warrant from the King or Lord Deputy of Ireland that then he shall forfeit a Hundred pounds The offence is not for laying of Soldiers upon the Kings people but making War against the Irish Rebells without Warrant the Offence is not in the Matter but in the Manner for doing a thing lawful but without Mission I. This will appear by the general Scope of the Statute all the parts being put together II. By particular Clauses in the Statute III. By the Condition of that Kingdom at the time of the making of that Statute For the First The Preamble recites that in time of Declination of Justice under pretext of defending the Country and themselves diverse great Men arrogated to themselves Regal Authority under the names of Captains that they acquired to themselves that Government which belonged to the Crown for preventing of this It 's Enacted That no man dwelling within the Shire-Grounds shall thenceforth assume or take to himself the Authority or name of a Captain within these Shire-Grounds without Letters-Patents from the Crown nor shall under colour of his
particular Trespasses upon the Law By Impositions and Taxes upon the Merchant in Trade by Burdens and Pressures upon the Gentry in Knighthood before they could Arrive at that Universal destruction of the Kingdom by Ship-mony which promised Reward and Security for all their former Services by doing the work of a Parliament to His Majesty in Supplies and seemed to delude justice in leaving none to judge them by making the whole Kingdom party to their oppression My Lords of this Crime these Three Judges seem to be at least equally guilty for however one of them my Lord Chief Baron is not charged with that Judgment in the Exchequer-Chamber against Mr. Hampden and how he fail'd in making his Conclusion from his own Premisses he only can inform you Your Lordships see how quickly he repented that that mischief was done without him there by his overtaking his Brethren in his Circuit and as he said of the vilest kind of flatterers Crudelissimo servitutis genere quod intra se abominabantur palam laudabant He made all possible haste to redeem himself from that imputation of Justice and declared publickly in the face of the Country that it was adjudged by all the Judges of England that Ship-mony was due to the King though I believe he will be now glad to be thought none of those Judges And what others did he well knew and thereupon Imprisoned a poor man for doing that which if Ship-mony had been due to his Majesty by Magna Charta had been lawful for him to have done Of the resolutions and judgment it self I am not to speak your Lordships have passed your noble judgment My Lords the first Charge in order is that presumptuous Decree against Mr. Rolls and others And in truth whatsoever gloss they put upon it is no other than a plain grant of the Subsidy of Tonnage and Poundage to His Majesty upon all Merchandise after their Goods seised for non-payment of that pretended duty the Proprietors brought Replevins which is the natural and genuine remedy appointed by Law in case of Property and grounded upon Property the Court Awards an Injunction to stay these Replevins the Goods were in the King's possession and no Replevin would lye against the King Truly my Lords the injustice here is not so scandalous as the fraud we all know a Replevin as no other suit lyes against the King if the Goods be in his own hands in his Bed-Chamber But to call a seifure by the Farmers of whose interest this Court will not deny the notice and if his Majesty had any right they well knew he had transferred it to these men or the Ware-houses of the Customers the King's possession to defeat the Subject of his proper remedy was the boldest piece of Sophistry we have met with in a Court of Law Pardon me if I am transported The Civilians say Tutor Domini loco habetur cum rem administrat non cum pupillum spoliat The Office of Judges is to preserve and give remedy for right here they found a right a known and unquestionable right yet instead of assisting took away the remedy to preserve that right What shall we call these Judges My Lords in this Argument I am not willing to say much 't is enough that your Lordships know Tonnage and Poundage is not a duty to the Crown but a Subsidy and so granted in subsidium sometimes pro una vice tantum sometimes for years and then ceased when the time did expire that when it was first granted for Life it was with this Clause Ita quod non trahatur in exemplum futuris Regibus But 't is abundantly enough that his Sacred Majesty cannot be tainted with the advices and judgments of these Men but looks on this duty singly as the meer Affection and Bounty of his Subjects the which no doubt he shall never want My Lords The next Charge is concerning Impositions Mr. Vassal's Goods are seised for not paying Impost which he conceived to be against Law he is Imprisoned and Judgment given against him without suffering him to be heard upon the point of Right because that had been heretofore judged in Bates's Case And yet these very Judges have not thought themselves so bound up by former judgments but that since this time they have argued a Case upon the same point which was adjudged in Hillary Term in the 15 Elizabeth and confirmed after by all the Judges of England in a Writ of Error in the 21 year of that Queen's Reign 't is Walsingham's Case however the same modesty seised them again in the Case of a Noble Lord not now present Whether the King without assent of Parliament may set Impositions upon the Wares and Goods of Merchants is no question it hath been more then once debated in Parliament and indeed whilst it was a question was fittest for a Parliament I will not trouble your Lordships long 't is now resolved and nothing new can be said in this Argument though I may have leave to say if the King can by his Letters Patents create such a right to himself and by a Legal Course recover that right under such a Title such Letters-Patents are in no degree inferiour to an Act of Parliament To reconcile such a power in the Prince and the property of a Subject that the one must not be destructive to the other will require a much greater a subtler understanding then I pretend to But my Lords I do not think the judgment in this point to be so great a Crime in these Judges as that they presumed to judge at all the matter had been long debated in Parliament undetermined and therefore not within the Conusance of an inferiour Court had it not been true that Fortescue says in his 36 Chapter of the Laws of England Neque Rex per se aut Ministros suos tallagia subsidia aut quaevis onera alia imponit c. sine concessione vel assensu totius Regni sui in Parliamento suo expresso c. If the Statute de Tallagio non concedendo If the 30 Chap. of Magna Charta and all the other Statutes to that purpose be not clear in the point they might easily have apprehended so much weight so much difficulty in the question especially since in all our Law-Books not so much as the word Imposition is found untill the Case in my Lord Dyer of 1 Eliz. fol. 163. that they might very well have suspected themselves to be no competent Judges for that determination and I hope by the experience of this Parliament the Judges will recover that Ancient modesty to believe that some Cases may fall out that may not be properly within their Jurisdiction in the Ninth year of Edward the second 't is in the Parliament Rolls It being found by an Office after the death of Gilbert de Clare Earl of Gloucester that his Sisters were his Heirs nisi Comitissa Glocestriae esset pregnans the question was Whether the King might grant
and Commons Is not this an offence punishable out of Parliament Answer We conceive this also to be an Offence punishable out of Parliament Quere VII If Two or Three or more of the Parliament shall Conspire to defame the King's Government and to deter his Subjects from Obeying or Assisting the King Of what nature this Offence is Answer The Nature and Quality of this Offence will be greater or lesser as the Circumstances shall fall out upon the Truth of the Fact Quere VIII Can any Priviledge of the House Warrant a Tumultuous Proceeding Answer We humbly conceive That an earnest though a disorderly and confused proceeding in such a Multitude may be called Tumultuous and yet the Priviledge of the House may Warrant it We in all humbleness are willing to satisfie Your Majesties Command but until the Particulars of the Fact do appear we can give no directer Answers then before And particularly as to the Second Quere about the King's Power of Adjourning as well as Calling and Dissolving of Parliaments these following Parliamentary Precedents were given in Mercur. 4. Aprilis 1. Jac. Sess 1. Mr. Speaker pronounceth His Majesties Pleasure of Adjourning the House till 11th Parliamentary Presidents about Adjournments by the King of April and it was so done Jovis 18. Dec. 1606. The Lords by their Messengers signified the King's Pleasure that the Session should be Adjourned till the 10th of February following Upon this Message Mr. Speaker Adjourned the House according to His Majesties said Pleasure Martis 31. Martii 1607. The Speaker delivered the King's Pleasure that the House should be A journned till Munday 20. April following Mercurii 20. Maii 1607. Mr. Speaker signified the King's Pleasure about Nine a Clock to Adjourn the House till the 27th of the same Month. And 27th of May he being Challenged for Adjourning without the Privity of the House he excuseth it and saith as the House had power to Adjourn themselves so the King had a Superior Power and by His Command he did it Veneris 30 Martii 1610. His Majestie 's Pleasure to Adjourn from Tuesday till Munday Sevenight 11. July The King by Commission Adjourneth the Lords House Messengers sent to the Commons They send by Messengers of their own to the Lords that they use to Adjourn themselves The Commission is sent down Mr. Speaker Adjourneth the House till the first of August 26. Febr. 4. Car. Mr. Speaker signifieth His Majestie 's Pleasure that the House be presently Adjourned till Munday next and in the mean time all Committees and other proceedings to cease And thereupon Mr. Speaker in the Name of the House Adjourned the same accordingly And for a short Account of this Affair take this out of Crook's Reports Cro. 3. Part The King versus Sir John Elliot Denzill Hollis and Benjamin Valentine fol. 181. Hill Term. 5 Car. AN Information was exhibited against Sir John Elliot Sir John Elliot's Case c. about the business 3 Car. out of Crook's Reports Denzil Hollis and Benjamin Valentine by the Attorney General c. To which the Defendants appearing pleaded to the Jurisdiction of the Court That the Court ought not to have Conusance thereof because it is for Offences done in Parliament and ought to be there Examined and Punished and not elsewhere It was thereupon demurred and after Argument adjudged That they ought to Answer for the Charge is for Conspiracy Seditious Acts and Practices to stop the Adjournment of Parliament which may be examined out of Parliament being Seditious and Unlawful Acts and this Court may take Conusance and punish them Afterwards divers Rules being given to Plead and they refusing Judgment was given against them viz. Against Sir John Elliot that he should be committed to the Tower and should pay Two Thousand Pounds Fine and upon his Inlargement should find Sureties for his Good Behavior And against Hollis That he should pay a Thousand Marks and should be Imprisoned and find Sureties c. And against Valentine That he should pay Five Hundred Pound Fine be Imprisoned and find Sureties Note That afterward in the Parliament 17 Car. It was resolved by the House of Commons That they should have Recompence for their Damages Losses Imprisonments and Sufferings sustained for the Services of the Common-Wealth in Parliament of 3 Car. Note In the Session of Parliament Anno 19 20 Car. 2. a Motion was made by a Commoner to have this and some other like Resolutions expunged out of our Law-Books that Students might not be poysoned therewith and a Committee was accordingly appointed to inspect them And accordingly upon Report made by Mr. Vaughan from the Committee about freedom of Speech in Parliament it was Resolved among other Votes That the Judgment given 5 Car. against Sir John Elliot c. in the Kings-Bench is an Illegal Judgment and against the Freedom and Priviledg of Parliament The Concurrence of the Lords was desired and their Lordships Concurred with the Commoners Upon the Petition of Commissary Wilmot and Colonel Ashburnham Commissary Wilmot and Colonel â—shburnham Bailed it was Resolved c. That Commissary Wilmot and Colonel Ashburnham shall be bailed in the same manner that Captain Pollard was Resolved c. That a Warrant shall issue under Mr. Speaker's hand to the Lieutenant of the Tower to deliver them into the Serjeant's hand It was further Ordered That Colonel Goring Commissary Wilmot and Colonel Ashburnham shall not offer any violence one to another Colonel Goring being present in the House promised to observe the Injunction and Commissary Wilmot and Colonel Ashburnham were ordered to give satisfaction to the House under their hands that they will observe this Command of the House Upon his Petition it was likewise Ordered That Mr. Mr. William Davenant Bailed William Davenant should be bailed upon such Security as the House shall allow of Dudley Smith Esq and William Champneys Esq Sewers to the King were also admitted to Bail 2000 l. the Principals and 1000 l. the Sureties William Williams was this day called in to Answer the Breach of Priviledge committed in entring upon the Freehold of the Lord Bishop of Lincoln Breach of Priviledge and disquieting the possession of his Lordships Lands in Carnarvan-shire The said Williams consess'd he had entred upon the Lands of the Lord Bishop of Lincoln at May last was Twelve Months The House thought fit to Release him upon Bail Then Johannes Maynard Mil ' Balniae Single Bail taken in the Lords House Recogn ' se debere Domino Regi ducent ' libras levari ad usum Domini Regis ex Terris Tenementis Catallis The Condition of the abovesaid Recognizance is That if William Williams shall appear before the Lords in Parliament and abide the Order of Parliament then this Recognizance is void or else it is to remain in full Power and Force This day there was a Conference between the Lords and Commons concerning the Case of the Palatinate and the King 's Manifesto
a Conference by the Earl of Bath to the Commons THese are to signifie to this House That whereas He sent an Answer this day to both Houses concerning the Third Head lest there should be any mistake upon the word Slander His Majesty declares he did not mean all of either House of Parliament or any Members thereof Upon the Reading of the Petition of the Arch-Bishop of Canterbury concerning his payment of Poll-mony It was Ordered Order of the Lords about the Arch-Bishops paying Poll-Money To be left to be paid according to the Act of Parliament The House for freer Debate was put into a Committee to consider of the Court of York and to give judgment herein and after much Debate the House was reassumed and it was Resolved upon the Question by the Major Part Resolves of the Lords concerning the Court at York That the Commission and Instructions whereby the President and Council of the North exercise a Jurisdiction is Illegal both in the Creation and Execution Resolved c. That this Commission and Instructions is unprofitable to His Majesty Resolved upon the Question Nemine Contradicente That this Commission and Instructions is inconvenient and grievous to His Majesties Subjects of those Parts Resolved upon the Question Nemine Contradicente That this House doth joyn with the House of Commons in beseeching His Majesty that the Present Commission and Instructions may be revoked and no such granted for the Future MEmorandum A Salvo for the Judges of the Court of York This House doth declare seeing the Commission and Instructions of the Court of York is Illegal in the Creation and Execution that the former Judges in the Court of York who have given Judgement and proceeded as they thought in their Consciences upon True and Legal Grounds shall not be liable to be Questioned but in case of Injustice and that none in that Case shall be barred of their Appeal And if it appear that there is a Necessity for the Ease of that Country to have a Court this House will advise with the House of Commons how one may be Established by Law for the Ease of those Parts And the Earl of Essex Earl of Bristol Viscount Say and Seal Bishop of Lincoln Lord Wharton Lord Kimbolton were appointed to prepare Heads for a Conference with the Commons concerning the aforesaid Particulars that so the Persons that were Judges and the Acts of that Court may have a Saving for them If humane Bodies and Minds are subject to the secret Influences of the Heavenly Bodies certainly England and the rest of the Brittish Dominions were at this time under the Aspects of some Violent and Malignant Configurations and there seemed to be an Universal Inclination in the People every where to Tumults Mutinies Violence and Injustice the Lords House was full of Complaints of the Disorders of this Nature throwing up Inclosures and disturbing the Possessions of others and that not singly but by Multitudes and with such Arms as Rusticks are wont to make Use of upon such Occasions of their Madness And of this the Lords were so sensible that they made this following Order WHereas daily Complaints are made unto this House of violent breaking into Possessions Order of the Lords concerning Violent and Tumultuous breaking into Possessions July 13. 1641. and Inclosures in Riotous and Tumultuous manner in several parts of this Kingdom without any due proceedings by Course of Law to warrant the same which hath been observed to have been more frequently done since this Parliament began then formerly it is thought fit and so Ordered by the Lords in Parliament That no Inclosure or Possession shall be Violently and in a Tumultuous manner disturbed or taken away from any man which was in Possession the first Day of this Parliament or before but by due Course and Form of Law and that such Possessions of all men shall continue and remain unto them as they were on the first Day of this Meeting of Parliament unless it have been or shall be by some Legal way of proceeding in some of His Majesties Courts of Law or Equity or by some Act or Order of the Parliament determined or ordered to the Contrary And in all such Cases where any such unlawful disturbance of the quiet Possession of any man hath happened or shall happen the High Sheriff of the County shall have Power by virtue of this Order together with two of the Justices of the Peace of the said County next or near to the place and such other or others as he or they shall think fit to take with him or them to repair unto the place where such Tumults happen to be and appease and quiet the Possession of the said Lands and Inclosures so disturbed as aforesaid and shall see to and cause that the Possession be continued unto the present Owners as aforesaid until by a Legal Course in some Court of Law or Equity or by order of Parliament it be determined or Ordered to the contrary The Lord Bishop of Lincoln Reported Report about the Officers of the Star-Chamber That the Lords Committees appointed to Consider of the Petition of the Officers of the Star-Chamber have fully heard their Cause and they are of Opinion and do not conceive of any fitter way of Relief for these Poor Officers the King's Servants then to remit them to the King's Mercy that His Majesty would be Graciously pleased to allow a Proportionable Relief for these Poor men out of such Fines as may accrue unto His Majesty in the High Court of Parliament to be apportioned by the Lords of the Committees or otherwise as their Lordships shall be pleased to approve thereof and Order it Upon Report this Day made unto the House by the Right Honourable the Lord Seymour that the difference between the Parishioners of St. Report about the Rioters at St. Thomas the Apostle's in pulling down the Rails Thomas the Apostle complained of to the Lords in Parliament was composed by his Lordship to whom the business was referred It is Ordered by the Lords Spiritual and Temporal in the High Court of Parliament Assembled that the said difference together with the Cause depending before their Lordships shall by virtue of this Order be fully ended and determined and Lastly that John Blackwell shall for himself others Petitioned against forthwith pay unto the Overseers of the Poor of that Parish upon sight hereof to the use of the said Poor the full Summ of ten Pounds of Lawful Money of England and hereof they are not to fail as they will answer to the contrary There being a Report spread abroad that His Majesty intended to send the Lord Digby abroad under some honourable Character Tuesday July 13. and as was said Ambassadour into France his Enemies in the House of Commons being extreamly nettled at it were resolved if possible to set a brand of Infamy upon his Lordship and therefore not content to have disgracefully Expelled him
Majesty's said Letters or the said Act of State and not otherwise The Commons not being satisfied with these Sober and Calm Resolutions of the Judges fell to Voting their own Sense and to make Declarations of the Law upon their former Queries as followeth Questions propounded in Parliament And Declarations of the Law thereupon in Parliament Quest 1. The Declaration of the Commons in Ireland upon the Queries propounded to the Judges WHether the Subjects of this Kingdom be a Free People and to be Governed only by the Common Laws of England and Statutes of Force in this Kingdom Declarat The Subjects of this his Majesties Kingdom of Ireland are a free People and to be Governed only according the Common Law of England and Statutes made and established by Parliament in this Kingdom of Ireland and according to the Lawful Customs used in the same 2. Quest Whether the Judges of this Land do take the Oath of Judges And if so Whether under pretext of any Act of State Proclamation Writ Letter or Direction under the Seal or Privy Seal Signet or Letter or other Commandment from the Lord Lieutenant Lord Deputy Justice Justices or other Chief Governor or Governors of this Kingdom they may hinder stay or delay the Suit of any Subject or his Judgment or Execution thereupon If so in what Cases And whether if they do hinder stay or delay such Suit or Judgment or Execution thereupon what Punishment do they incur for their deviation and transgression therein Declarat That Judges in Ireland ought to take the Oath of the Justices or Judges declared and established in several Parliaments of Force in this Kingdom and the said Judges or any of them by Color or under Pretext of any Act of State or Proclamation or under Color or Protext of any Writ Letter or Direction under the Great Seal Privy Seal or Privy Signet from the King 's Most Excellent Majesty or by Color or Pretext of any Letter or Commandment from the Chief Governor or Governors of this Kingdom ought not to hinder or delay the Suit of any Subject or his Judgment or Execution thereupon and if any Letters Writs or Commands come from his Majesty or from any other or for any other Cause to the Justices or to the other deputed to do the Law and right according to the Usage of the Realm in disturbance of the Law or of the Execution of the same or of Right to the Party the Justices and others aforesaid ought to proceed and hold their Courts and Processes where the Pleas and Matters be depending before them as if no such Letters Writs or Commandments were come to them And in case any Judge or Judges Justice or Justices be found in default therein he or they so found in default ought to incur and undergo due Punishment according to the Law and former Declarations and Provisions in Parliament in that Case made and of Force in this Kingdom or as shall be Ordered Adjudged or Declared in Parliament And the Barons of the Exchequer Justices of the Assize and Goal-delivery if they be found in default as aforesaid It is hereby declared That they ought to undergo the Punishment aforesaid 3. Quest Whether the Kings Majesties Privy Council either with the Chief Governor or Governors of this Kingdom or without him or them be a Place of Judicature by the Commons Laws and wherein Causes between Party and Party for Debts Trespasses Accompts Possessions or Title of Lands or any of them or which of them may be heard and determined and of what Civil Causes they have Jurisdiction and by what Law And of what Force is their Order or Decree in such Cases or any of them Declarat The Council Table of this Realm either with the Chief Governor or Governors or without the Chief Governor or Governors is no Judicatory wherein any Action Real Personal Popular or Mixt or any Suit in the Nature of the said Actions or any of them can or ought to be Commenced Heard or Determined and all Proceedings at the Council Table in any Suit in the nature of any of the said Actions are void especially Causes particularly provided for by express Acts of Parliament of Force in this Kingdom only excepted 4. Quest The Like of the Chief Governor alone Declarat The Proceedings before the Chief Governor or Governors alone in any Action Real Personal Popular or Mixt or in any Suit in the Nature of any of the said Actions are Coram non Judice and void 5. Quest Whether Grants of Monopolies be warranted by the Law and of what and in what Cases and how and where and by whom are the pretended Transgressors against such Grants punishable and whether by Fine Mutilation of Members Imprisonment Loss and Forfeiture of Goods or otherwise and which of them Declarat All Grants of Monopolies are contrary to the Laws of this Realm and therefore void and no Subject of the said Realm ought to be Fined Imprisoned or otherwise Punished for exercising or using the Lawful Liberty of a Subject contrary to such Grants 6. Quest In what Cases the Lord Lieutenant Lord Deputy or other Chief Governor or Governors of this Kingdom and Council may punish by Fine Imprisonment Mutilation of Members Pillory or otherwise And whether they may Sentence any to such the same or the like punishment for infringing the Commands of or concerning any Proclamation of and concerning Monopolies and what punishment do they incur that Vote for the same Declarat The Lord Lieutenant Lord Deputy or other Chief Governor or Governors and Council of this Realm or any of them ought not to imprison any of his Majesties Subjects but only in Cases where the Common Laws or Statutes of the Realm do inable and warrant them so to do and they ought not to Fine or to Consure any Subject in mutilation of Member standing on the Pillory or other shameful Punishment in any Case at the Council Table and no Subject ought to be Imprisoned Fined or otherwise Punished for Infringing any Commands or Proclamation for the support or Countenance of Monopolies and if in any Case any Person or Persons shall be committed by the Command or Warrant of the Chief Governor or Governors and Privy Council of this Realm or any of them That in every such Case every Person or Persons so Committed restrained of his or their Liberty or suffering Imprisonment upon Demand or Motion made by his or their Counsel or other imployed by him or them for that purpose unto the Judges of the Court of Kings-Bench or Common-Pleas in open Court shall without delay upon any Pretence whatsoever for the ordinary Fees usually paid for the same have forthwith granted unto him or them a Writ or Writs of Habeas Corpus to be directed generally unto all and every Sheriff Goaler Minister Officer or other Person in whose Custody the Party or Parties so Committed or Restrained shall be shall at the Return of the said Writ or Writs and
the Leather must needs exceed both and Salt could be no less then that besides the inferior Monopolies which if they could be exactly computed would make up a great Sum. That which is more beneficial then all this is that the root of these evils is taken away which was the Arbitrary Power pretended to be in his Majesty of Taxing the Subject or charging their Estates without consent in Parliament which is now declared to be against Law by the judgment of both Houses and likewise by an Act of Parliament Another step of great advantage is this the living Grievances the evil Counsellors and Actors of these Mischiefs have been so quelled by the Justice done upon the Earl of Strafford the flight of the Lord Finch and Secretary Windibank The Accusation and Imprisonment of the Archbishop of Canterbury of Judge Bartlet and the Impeachment of divers other Bishops and Judges that it is like not only to be an ease to the present times but a preservation to the future The discontinuance of Parliaments is prevented by the Bill for a Triennial Parliament and the abrupt dissolution of this Parliament by another Bill by which it is provided it shall not be dissolved or adjourned without the consent of both Houses Which two Laws well considered may be thought more advantageous then all the former because they secure a full Operation of the present Remedy and afford a perpetual Spring of Remedies for the future The Star-Chamber the High Commission the Courts of the President and Council in the North where so many Forges of misery oppression and violence and are all taken away whereby men are more secured in their Persons Liberties and Estates then they could be by any Law or Example for the regulation of those Courts or terrour of the Judges the immoderate Power of the Council-Table and the excessive abuse of that Power is so ordered and restrained that we may well hope that no such things as were frequently done by them to the prejudice of the publick Liberty will appear in future times but only in stories to give us and our Posterity more occasion to praise God for his Majesties goodness and the faithful endeavours of this Parliament The Canons and the power of Canon making are blasted by the Vote of both Houses The exorbitant power of Bishops and their Courts are much abated by some Provisions in the Bill against the High Commission Court The Authors of the many Innovations in Doctrine and Ceremonies the Ministers that have been scandalous in their lives have been so terrified in just Complaints and Accusations that we may well hope they will be more modest for the time to come either inwardly convicted by the sight of their own folly or outwardly restrained by the fear of punishment The Forrests are by a good Law reduced to their right bounds the encroachments and oppressions of the Stannery Courts the extorsions of the Clerk of the Market and the compulsion of the Subject to receive the Order of Knighthood against his will paying of Fines for not receiving it and the vexatious proceedings thereupon for Levying of those Fines are by other beneficial Laws reformed and prevented Many excellent Laws and Provisions are in preparation for removing the inordinate power vexation and usurpation of Bishops for reforming the Pride and Idleness of many of the Clergy for easing the People of unnecessary Ceremonies in Religion for censuring and removing unworthy and unprofitable Ministers and for maintaining Godly and diligent Preachers through the Kingdom Other things of main importance for the good of this Kingdom are in proposition though little could hitherto be done in regard of the many other more pressing businesses which yet before the end of this Session we hope may receive some progress and perfection The Establishing and ordering the Kings Revenue that so the abuse of Officers and superfluity of expences may be cut off and the necessary disbursments for his Majesties Honour the Defence and Government of the Kingdom may be more certainly provided for The regulating of Courts of Justice and abridging both the delays and charges of Law Suits the setling of some good courses for preventing the exportation of Gold and Silver and the inequality of exchanges betwixt us and other Nations for the advancing of Native Commodities increase of our Manufactures and well ballancing of Trade whereby the Stock of the Kingdom may be increased or at least kept from impairing as through neglect hereof it hath done for many years last past For improving the Herring fishing upon our own Coasts which will be of mighty use in the imployment of the Poor and a plentiful Nursery of Marriners for enabling the Kingdom in any great Action The oppositions obstructions and other Difficulties wherewith we have been encountred and which still lye in our way with some strength and much obstinacy are these the malignant Party whom we have formerly described to be the Actors and Promoters of all our Misery they have taken heart again they have been able to prefer some of their own Factors and Agents to degrees of Honour to places of Trust and Employment even during the Parliament They have endeavoured to work in his Majesty ill Impressions and Opinions of our Proceedings as if we had altogether done our own work and not his and had obtained from him many things very prejudicial to the Crown both in respect of Prerogative and Profit To wipe out this slander we think good only to say thus much That all that we have done is for his Majesty his Greatness Honour and Support when we yielded to give twenty five thousand pounds a Month for the relief of the Northern Countries this was given to the King for he was bound to protect his Subjects they were his Majesties evil Counsellors and their ill instruments that were Actors in those Grievances which brought in the Scots and if his Majesty please to force those who were the Authors of this War to make satisfaction as he might justly and easily do it seems very reasonable that the people might well be excused from taking upon them this burthen being altogether innocent and free from being any causes of it When we undertook the Charge of the Army which cost above 50000 l. a Month was not this given to the King was it not his Majesty's Army were not all the Commanders under Contract with his Majesty at higher rates and greater wages then ordinary and have we not taken upon us to discharge all the Brotherly assistance of three hundred thousand pounds which we gave the Scots was it not toward repair of those damages and losses which they received from the Kings Ships and from his Ministers These three particulars amount to above 1100 thousand pounds besides his Majesty hath received by impositions upon Merchandise at least 400 thousand pounds so that his Majesty hath had out of the Subjects Purse since the Parliament began one Million and an half and yet these Men can be
Whether he doth know or have heard who did Frame Contrive or advise the same or any of them To this he answered That he would deal clearly freely and Ingeniously and that he should say the same which he had before delivered to the Lords and should need no long time to answer this for that he had done none of these three that is neither Framed Advised these Articles or any of them and would be contented to die if he hid Secondly Being demanded whether he knew the truth of these Articles or any of them of his own knowledge or had it by Information To this he Answered He did know nothing of his own knowledge of the truth of these Artitles or any part of them nor hath heard it by Information All that ever he hath heard concerning this was from his Master Thirdly Being asked whether he will make good these Articles when he shall be thereunto called in due course of Law To this he Answered He cannot do it nor will not do it otherwise then as his Master shall Command him and shall Enable him no more then he that never heard of them can do it Fourthly Being asked from whom he received these Articles and by whose direction and advice he did Exhibit them He answered He did Exhibit them by his Masters Command and from his hands he did receive them Fifthly Being asked whether he had any Testimony or Proof of the Articles before the Exhibiting of them He gave this Answer That he received the Command of his Majesty but whether he had any proof then offered or intimation of Testimony to make good those Articles he desired time to consider of it he was pressed again to make answer to this but desired time to consider of it saying there was a secret trust between a Master and Servant much more in this Case The great Design of this Examination was to have got out who were the Witnesses of this Accusation that so they might have fallen upon them and worried them to death and though nothing was more justifiable then this Plea of Secrecy to which Mr. Attorney was obliged by his Oath from which they could have no power to Absolve him Yet it did so Exasperate the Faction that it was Ordered That some way be thought of for Charging Mr. Attorney by this House as Criminous for Exhibiting those Articles in the Lords House against Members of this House without any Information or proof that appears and that this House and the Gentlemen Charged by him may have Reparation from him and that he may put in good Security to stand to the Judgement of Parliament And it was Resolved Votes against the Attorney General c. That this Act of Mr. Attorney 's in this Impeachment against Members of this House is Illegal and a High Crime Resolved c. That the Lords shall be desired That Mr. Attorney may put in good Security to stand to the Judgement of Parliament And Mr. Whitlock Serjeant Wild Mr. Hill Mr. Glyn Mr. Brown Mr. Rigby and Mr. Buller were appointed a Committee they or any three of them to withdraw presently and prepare a Charge against Mr. Attorney upon the Votes of the House And that Posterity may see how Zealous these People after all their pretensions were for the Relief of Ireland Collonel Hill and Lieutenant Bowles Delinquents for raising Volunteers for Ireland It was Resolved c. and Ordered That Collonel Hill and Robert Bowles his Lieutenant shall be forthwith sent for as Delinquents by the Serjeant at Arms attending on this House for beating up Drums and raising of Men contrary to the Ordinance of Parliament And that all Constables and other Officers be assisting to the Serjeant in the Execution of his Warrant And that Mr. Whistler Mr. Pury Mr. Smith and Mr. Hill shall search in such Offices as they shall think fit to see if any Commissions or other Warrants have been granted to any Person or Persons for Levying of Men. A Paper was delivered by Mr. Hambden from the Scotch Commissioners which was read in these words OUr Treaty concerning the Irish Affairs being so oft interrupted by the Emergent Distractions A Paper of the Scotch Commissioners offering their Mediation to the King c. gives us occasion to desire your Lordships and those Noble Gentlemen of the House of Commons for to present to the Honourable Houses of Parliament that we having taken to our Consideration the manifold Obligations of the Kingdom of Scotland to our Native and Gracious Soveraign his Person and Government confirmed and multiplyed by the great and Recent Favours bestowed by his Majesty on that Kingdom at his last being there and settling the troubles thereof and considering the mutual Interest of the Kingdoms in Welfare and Prosperity of others acknowledged and Established in the late Treaty And finding our selves warranted and obliged by all means to labour to keep a right Understanding betwixt the Kings Majesty and his People to confirm that Brotherly affection begun between the two Nations to advance their Unity by all such ways as may tend to the Glory of God and Peace of the Church and State of both Kingdoms to render thanks to the Parliament of England for their assistance given to the Kingdom of Scotland in settling the late Troubles thereof wherein next to the Providence of God and the Kings Majesties Justice and Goodness they do acknowledge themselves most beholding to the Mediation and Brotherly kindness of the Kingdom of England and likewise to proffer our selves for removing all Jealousies and mistakings which may arise betwixt the Kings Majesty and this Kingdom and our best indeavours for the better Establishment of the Affairs and quiet of the same We do therefore in the name of the Parliament and Kingdom of Scotland acknowledge our selves next to the Providence of God and his Majesties Justice and Goodness most beholding to the Mediation and Brotherly kindness of the Kingdom of England in many respects especially in condescending to the Kings Majesties coming to Scotland in the midst of their great Affairs whereof we have tasted the sweet and comfortable Fruits and do heartily wish the like happiness to this Kingdom And as we are heartily sorry to find our Hopes thereof deferred by the present distractions growing daily here to a greater height and out of the sense thereof have taken the Boldness to send our humble and faithful advice to the Kings most Excellent Majesty for remedying of the same to the just satisfaction of his People so out of our duty to his Majesty and to testifie our Brotherly Affection to this Kingdom and acquit our selves of the Trust Imposed upon us We do most Earnestly beseech the most Honourable Houses in the deep of their Wisdoms to think timously upon the Fairest and Fittest Ways of Composing all present differences to the Glory of God the good of the Church and State of both Kingdoms and to his Majesties Honour and Contentment Wherein if our
him and in that which is most Sacred amongst Men the Publick Justice of the Kingdom The King is to be accounted unto for the loss of the meanest Member much more of one so near the Head The Commons are concerned in their Account for what is done your Lordships in that which is to be done The business therefore of the present Conference is to acquaint your Lordships with those things that satisfy'd the Commons in Passing of this Bill such of them as have come within my capacity and that I can remember I am Commanded from the Commons at this time to present unto your Lordships My Lords in Judgment of greatest Moment there are but two wayes for satisfying those that are to give them either the Lex lata the Law already established or else the use of the same Power for making new Laws whereby the old at first received life In the first consideration of the setled Laws in the degrees of Punishment the Positive Law received by General Consent and for the Common Good is sufficient to satisfie the Conscience of the Judge in giving Judgment according to them In several Countries there is not the same measure of Punishment for one and the same Offence Wilful Murder in Ireland it is Treason and so is the wilful Burning of a House or a Stack of Corn In the Isle of Man it is Felony to Steal a Hen but not to Steal a Horse and yet the Judge in Ireland hath as just a Ground to give Judgment of High-Treason in those Cases there as here to give Judgment only of Felony and in the Isle of Man of Felony for the Hen as here for Petty-Larceny My Lords in the other Consideration of using the Supream Power the same Law gives Power to the Parliament to make new Laws that enables the inferiour Court to Judge according to the old The Rules that guides the Conscience of the inferiour Court is from without the Prescripts of the Parliament and of the Common-Law in the other the Rule is from within that Salus Populi be concerned that there be no wilful oppression of any of the Fellow-Members that no more Blood be taken than what is necessary for the Cure the Laws and Customes of the Realm as well enable the Exercise of this as of the Ordinary and Judicial Power My Lords What hath been said is because that this proceeding of the Commons by way of Bill implies the use of the meer Legislative Power in respect new Laws are for the most part past by Bill This My Lords though just and legal and therefore not wholly excluded yet it was not the only ground that put the Commons upon the Bill they did not intend to make a new Treason and to condemn my Lord of Strafford for it they had in it other considerations likewise which were to this effect First The Commons knew that in all former Ages if doubts of Law arose of great and general concernments the Parliament was usually consulted withal for resolution which is the reason that many Acts of Parliament are only Declarative of the Old Law not Introductive of a New as the great Charter of our Liberties The Statute of Five and Twentieth year of Edward the Third of Treasons The Statute of the Prerogative and of late the Petition of Right if the Law were doubtful in this Case they perceived the Parliament where the old way is altered and new Laws made the fittest Judge to clear this Doubt Secondly My Lords they proceeded this way to obviate those Scruples and Delayes which through disuse of proceedings of this nature might have risen in the manner and way of proceedings since the Statute of the First of Hen. 4. Cap. 17. and more fully in the Roll number 144. The proceedings of Parliament have usually been upon an Indictment first found though in Cases of Treason particularly mentioned in the Statute of 25 Edw. 3. which had not been done in this case doubts likewise might rise for Treasons not particularly mentioned in the Statute of 25 Edw. 3. whether the Declaratory Power of Parliament be taken away in what manner they were to be made and by whom they find not any Attainders of Treason in Parliament for near this 200 years but by this way of Bill and again they know that whatsoever could be done any other way it might be done by this Thirdly In respect of the Proofs and Depositions that have been made against him for First although they knew not but that the whole Evidence which hath been given at the Bar in every part of it is sufficiently comprehended within the Charge yet if therein they should be mistaken if it should prove otherwise use may justly be made of such Evidence in this way of Bill wherein so as Evidence be given in it 's no way requisite that there should have been any Articles or Charge at all and so in the case of double Testimony upon the Statute of the 1 Edw. 6. whether one direct Witness with others to circumstances had been single or double Testimony And although single Testimony might be sufficient to satisfie private Consciences yet how far it would have been satisfactory in a judicial way where forms of Law are more to be stood upon was not so clear whereas in their way of Bill private satisfaction to each man's Conscience is sufficient although no Evidence had been given in at all My Lords The proceeding by way of Bill it was not to decline your Lordships Justice in the judicial way in these exigends of the State and Kingdom it was to Husband time by silencing those doubts they conceived it the speediest and surest way My Lords these are in effect the things the Commons took into their Consideration in respect of the manner and way of Proceeding against the Earl In the next place I am to declare unto your Lordships the things they took into their Considerations in respect of the Matter and Merits of the Cause and they are comprehended within these six heads 1. That there is a Treason within the Statute of 25 of Edw. III. by Levying of War upon the Matter of the 15th Article 2. If not by actual levying of War yet by advising and declaring his intention of War and that by Savil's Warrant and advice of bringing over the Irish Army upon the Matter in the 23d Article then intending of a War if not within the clause of levying of a War in the Statute of 25th Edw. 3. yet within the first Treason of compassing the death of the King 3. If either of these two single Acts is within the Statute of 25th Edw. 3. yet upon putting all together which hath been proved against him that there is a Treason within the first Clause of Compassing the death of the King Et si non Prosunt singula juncta juvant 4. That he hath Sessed and laid Soldiers upon the Subjects of Ireland against their Will and at their Charge within the Irish Statute of
Irish Statute or Custom Object But it will be said that Writs of Error are only upon failure of justice in Ireland and that suits cannot originally be commenced here for things done in Ireland because the Kings Writ runs not in Ireland Answ This might be a good Plea in the Kings-Bench and inferior Courts at Westminster-Hall the question is Whether it be so in Parliament The Kings Writ runs not within the County-Palatine of Chester and Durham nor within the Five Ports neither did it in Wales before the Union of Henry the 8th's time after the Laws of England were brought into Wales in King Edw. the 1. time Suits were not originally commenced at Westminster-Hall for things done in them yet this never excluded the Parliament-suits for Life Lands and Goods within these jurisdictions are determinable in Parliament as well as in any other parts of the Realm Ireland as appears by the Statute of the Thirtieth year of Henry 3. before-mentioned is united to the Crown of England By the Statute of the Eight and twentieth year of Hen. 6th in Ireland it is declared in these words That Ireland is the proper Dominion of England and united to the Crown of England which Crown of England is of it self and by it self wholly and intirely endowed with all Power and Authority sufficient to yield to the Subjects of the same full and plenary remedy in all Debates and Suits whatsoever By the Statute of the Three and twentieth year of Henry the 8th the first Chapter when the Kings of England first assumed the Title of King of Ireland it is there Enacted that Ireland still is to be held as a Crown annexed and united to the Crown of England So that by the same reason from this that the Kings Writs run not in Ireland it might as well be held that the Parliament cannot originally hold Plea of things done within the County-Palatine of Chester and Durham nor within the Five Ports and Wales Ireland is a part of the Realm of England as appears by those Statutes as well as any of them This is made good by constant practice in all the Parliament Rolls from the first to the last there are Receivers and Tryers of Petitions appointed for Ireland for the Irish to come so far with their Petitions for Justice and the Parliament not to have cognizance when from time to time they had in the beginning of the Parliament appointed Receivers and Tryers of them is a thing not to be presumed An Appeal in Ireland brought by William Lord Vesey against John Fitz-Thomas for Treasonable words there spoken before any Judgment given in Case there was removed into the Parliament in England and there the Defendant acquitted as appears in the Parliament Pleas of the Two and twentieth year of Edw. 1. The Suits for Lands Offices and Goods originally begun here are many and if question grew upon matter in Fact a Jury usually ordered to try it and the Verdict returned into the Parliament as in the Case of one Ballyben in the Parliament of the Five and thirtieth year of Edw. the 1. If a doubt arose upon a matter tryable by Record a Writ went to the Officers in whose custody the Record remained to certifie the Record as was in the Case of Robert Bagott the same Parliament of the Five and thirtieth year of Edw. the 1. where the Writ went to the Treasurer and Barons of the Exchequer Sometimes they gave Judgment here in Parliament and commanded the Judges there in Ireland to do execution as in the great Case of Partition between the Copartners of the Earl-Marshal in the Parliament of the Three and thirtieth of Edward the 1. Where the Writ was awarded to the Treasurer of Ireland My Lords The Laws of Ireland were introduced by the Parliament of England as appears by Three Acts of the Parliament before cited It is of higher Jurisdiction Dare Leges then to judge by them The Parliaments of England do bind in Ireland if Ireland be particularly mentioned as is resolved in the Book-Case of the First year of Henry the Seventh Cook 's Seventh Report Calvin's Case and by the Judges in Trinity-Term in the Three and thirtieth year of Queen Elizabeth The Statute of the Eighth year of Edward the 4th the first Chapter in Ireland recites That it was doubted amongst the Judges whether all the English Statutes though not naming Ireland were in force there if named no doubt From King Henry the 3d his time downwards to the Eighth year of Queen Elizabeth by which Statute it is made Felony to carry Sheep from Ireland beyond Seas in almost all these Kings Reigns there be Statutes made concerning Ireland The exercising of the Legislative Power there over their Lives and Estates is higher than of the Judicial in question until the 29th year of Edward the 3d erroneous Judgments given in Ireland were determinable no where but in England no not in the Parliament of Ireland as it appears in the close Rolls in the Tower in the 29th year of Edward the 3d. Memb. 12. Power to examine and reverse erroneous Judgments in the Parliaments of Ireland is granted from hence Writs of Error lye in the Parliament here upon erroneous Judgments after that time given in the Parliaments of Ireland as appears in the Parliament Rolls of the Eighth year of Henry the 6th N o 70. in the Case of the Prior of Lenthan It is true the Case is not determined there for it 's the last thing that came into the Parliament and could not be determined for want of time but no exception at all is taken to the Jurisdiction The Acts of Parliament made in Ireland have been confirmed in the Parliaments of England as appears by the close Rolls in the Tower in the Two and fortieth year of Edward the 3d. Memb. 20. Dorso where the Parliament in Ireland for the preservation of the Countrey from Irish who had almost destroyed it made an Act That all the Land-Owners that were English should reside upon their Lands or else they were to be forfeited this was here confirmed In the Parliament of the Fourth year of Henry the 5th Chap. 6. Acts of Parliament in Ireland are confirmed and some priviledges of the Peers in the Parliaments there are regulated Power to repeal Irish Statutes Power to confirm them cannot be by the Parliament here if it hath not cognizance of their Parliaments unless it be said that the Parliament may do it knows not what Garnsey and Jersey are under the Kings subjection but are not parcels of the Crown of England but of the Duchy of Normandy they are not governed by the Laws of England as Ireland is and yet Parliaments in England have usually held Plea of and determined all Causes concerning Lands or Goods In the Parliament in the 33 Edward 1. there be Placita de Insula Jersey And so in the Parliament 14 Edw. 2. and so for Normandy and Gascoigne and always as long as any part of
France was in subjection to the Crown of England there were at the beginning of the Parliaments Receivers and Tryers of Petitions for those parts appointed I believe your Lordships will have no Case shewed of any Plea to the Jurisdiction of the Parliaments of England in any things done in any parts wheresoever in subjection to the Crown of England The last thing I shall offer to your Lordships is the Case of 19 Eliz. in my Lord Dyer 306. and Judge Crompton's Book of the Jurisdiction of Courts fol. 23. The opinion of both these Books is That an Irish Peer is not Tryable here it 's true a Scotch or French Nobleman is Tryable here as a common person the Law takes no notice of their Nobility because those Countreys are not governed by the Laws of England but Ireland being governed by the same Laws the Peers there are Tryable according to the Law of England only per pares By the same reason the Earl of Strafford not being a Peer of Ireland is not tryable by the Peers of Ireland so that if he be not tryable here he is tryable no where My Lords In case there be a Treason and a Traytor within the Statute and that he be not tryable here for it in the ordinary way of Judicature if that jurisdiction fail this by way of Bill doth not Attainders of Treason in Parliament are as legal as usual by Act of Parliament as by Judgment I have now done with the Statutes 25 Edw. 3. and 18 Hen. 6 My Lord of Strafford hath offended against both the Kingdoms and is guilty of High-Treason by the Laws of both My Lords In the fifth place I am come to the Treasons at the Common-Law the endeavouring to subvert the Fundamental Laws and Government of the Kingdom and to introduce an Arbitrary and Tyrannical Government In this I shall not at all labour to prove That the endeavouring by Words Counsels and Actions to subvert the Laws is Treason at the Common-Law if there be any Common-Law Treasons at all left nothing is Treason if this be not to make a Kingdom no Kingdom take the Polity and Government away England is but a piece of Earth wherein so many men have their Commorancy and abode without ranks or distinction of men without property in any thing further than possession no Law to punish the Murthering or robbing one another That of 33 Hen. 8. of introducing the Imperial Law sticks not with your Lordships it was in case of an Appeal to Rome these Appeals in Cases of Marriages and other causes counted Ecclesiastical had been frequent had in most Kings Reigns been tolerated some in times of Popery put a conscience upon them the Statutes had limited the penalty to a Praemunire only neither was that a total subversion only an Appeal from the Ecclesiastical Court here in a single Cause to the Court of Rome and if Treason or not that Case proves not a Treason may be punished as a Felony a Felony as a Trespass if his Majesty so please The greater includes the less in the Case of Praemunire in the Irish Reports that which is there declared to be Treason was proceeded upon only as a Praemunire The things most considerable in this is Whether the Treasons at Common-Law are taken away by the Statute of 25 Edw. 3. which is to speak against both the direct words and scope of that Statute In it there 's this clause That because many other like Cases of Treason might fall out which are not there declared therefore it is enacted That if any such Case come before the Judges they shall not proceed to Judgment till the Case be declared in Parliament whether it ought to be adjudged Treason or not These words and the whole scope of that Statute shews that it was not the meaning to take away any Treasons that were so before but only to regulate the Jurisdiction and manner of Tryal Those that were single and certain Acts as conspiring the Kings Death Levying War Counterfeiting the Money or Great-Seal Killing a Judge these are left to the ordinary Courts of Justice The others not depending upon single Acts but upon constructions and necessary Inferences they thought it not fit to give the inferior Courts so great a latitude here as too dangerous to the Subject those they restrained to the Parliament This Statute was the great security of the Subjects made with such wisdom as all the succeeding Ages have approved it it hath often passed through the Furnace but like Gold hath left little or nothing The Statute of the First H. 4. Cap. 10. is in these words Whereas in the Parliament held the 21 year of Richard the 2. divers pains of Treason were ordained insomuch that no man did know how to behave himself to do say or speak It is accorded that in no time to come any Treason be adjudged otherwise than it was ordained by the Statute of 25th of Edw. 3. It hath been said To what end is this Statute made if it takes not away the Common-Law Treasons remaining after the Statute of the 25th of Edw. 3 There be two main things which this Statute doth First it takes away for the future all the Treasons made by any Statute since 25 Edw. 3. to the 1 H. 4. even to that time for in respect that by another Act in that Parliament the Statute of 21 Rich. 2. was repealed it will not be denyed but that this Statute repeals more Treasons than these of the 21 R. 2. It repeals all Statute-Treasons but those in 25 Edw. 3. Secondly It not only takes away the Statute-Treasons but likewise the declared Treasons in Parliament after the 25th of Edw. 3. as to the future after Declaration in Parliament the inferior Courts might judge these Treasons for the Declaration of a Treason in Parliament after it was made was sent to the inferior Courts that toties quoties the like Case fell out they might proceed therein the Subject for the future was secured against these so that this Statute was of great use But by the very words of it I shall refer all Treasons to the provision of 25 Edw. 3. it leaves that entire and upon the old bottom The Statute of 1 Queen Mary Cap. 1. saith That no offences made Treason by any Act of Parliament shall thenceforth be taken or adjudged to be Treason but only such as be declared and expressed to be Treason by the Statute of 25 Edw. 3. Concerning Treason or Declarat on of Treason and no others And further provides That no pains of Death penalties or forfeiture in any wise shall ensue for Committing any Treason other than such as be in the Statute of 25 Edw. 3. ordained and provided any Act of Parliament or any Declaration or matter to the contrary in any wise notwithstanding By the first of this Statute only offences made Treason by Act of Parliament are taken away the Common-Law-Treasons are no ways touched the words And no others
committit from the Lex talionis he that would not have had others to have a Law Why should he have any himself Why should not that be done to him that himself would have done to others It 's true we give Law to Hares and Deers because they be Beasts of Chase It was never accounted either cruelty or foul play to knock Foxes and Wolves on the head as they can be found because these be Beasts of Prey The Warrener sets Traps for Polcats and other Vermine for preservation of the Warren Further my Lords most dangerous Diseases if not taken in time they kill Errors in great things as War and Marriage they allow no time for repentance it would have been too late to make a Law when there had been no Law My Lords for further Answer to this Objection he hath offended against a Law a Law within the endeavouring to subvert the Laws and Polity of the State wherein he lived which had so long and with such faithfulness protected his Ancestry Himself and his whole Family It was not Malum quia prohibitum it was Malum in se against the Dictates of the dullest Conscience against the Light of Nature they not having a Law were a Law to themselves Besides this he knew a Law without that the Parliament in Cases of this Nature had Potestatem vitae necis Nay he well knew that he offended the Promulged and Ordinary Rules of Law Crimes against Law have been Proved have been Confessed so that the Question is not De culpa sed de poena What degree of Punishment those Faults deserve We must differ from him in Opinion That twenty Felonies cannot make a Treason if it be meant of equality in the use of the Legislative Power for he that deserves death for one of these Felonies alone deserves a Death more painful and more Ignominious for all together Every Felony is punished with loss of Life Lands and Goods a Felony may be aggravated with those Circumstances as that the Parliament with good reason may add to the Circumstances of Punishment as was done in the Case of John Hall in the Parliament of the 1 H. 4. who for a Barbarous Murder committed upon the Duke of Glocester stifling him between two Feather-Beds at Calice was adjudged to be Hanged Drawn and Quartered Batteries by Law are only punishable by Fine and single Damages to the Party Wounded In the Parliament held in 1 H. 4. Cap. 6. one Savage committed a Battery upon one Chedder Servant to Sir John Brooke a Knight of the Parliament for Somersetshire It 's there Enacted that he shall pay double Damages and stand Convicted if he render not himself by such a time The manner of proceedings quickned and the penalty doubled the Circumstances were considered it concerned the Common-Wealth it was a Battery with Breach of Priviledge of Parliament This is made a perpetual Act no warning to the first Offender and in the Kings-Bench as appears by the Book-Case of 9 H. 4. the first leaf Double Damages were recovered My Lords in this of the Bill the Offence is High and General against the King and the Common-wealth against all and the best of all If every Felony be loss of Life Lands and Goods What is Misuser of the Legislative Power by Addition of Ignominy in the Death and Disposal of the Lands to the Crown the Publick Patrimony of the Kingdom But it was hoped that your Lordships had no more skill in the Art of killing Men then your worthy Ancestors My Lords this Appeal from your selves to your Ancestors we do admit of although we do not admit of that from your Lordships to the Peers of Ireland He hath Appealed to them your Lordships will be pleased to hear what Judgment they have already given in the case that is the several Attainders of Treason in Parliament after the Statute of 25 E. 3. for Treasons not mentioned nor within that Statute and those upon the first Offenders without warning given By the Statute of 25 E. 3. it 's Treason to levy War against the King Gomines and Weston afterwards in Parliament in the 1 R. 2. n. 38 39. adjudged Traytors for surrendring two several Castles in France only out of fear without any Compliance with the Enemy this not within the Statute of 25th E. 3. My Lords In the 3d year of Rich. 2d John Imperiall that came into England upon Letters of Safe Conduct as an Agent for the State of Genoa sitting in the evening before his door in Breadstreet as the words of the Records are Paulo ante ignitegium John Kirkby and another Citizen coming that way Casually Kirkby troad upon his Toe it being twilight this grew to a Quarrel and the Ambassador was slain Kirkby was Indicted of High-Treason the Indictment finds all this and that it was only done se defendendo and without malice The Judges it being out of the Statute 25 E. 3. could not proceed the Parliament declared it Treason and Judgment afterwards of High-Treason there 's nothing can bring this within the Statute of 25 E. 3. but it concerns the Honour of the Nation that the publick Faith should be strictly kept It might endanger the Traffique of the Kingdom they made not a Law first they made the first man an Example this is in the Parliament Roll 3 R. 2. Number 18. and Hillary-Term 3 R. 2. Rot. 31. in the Kings-Bench where Judgment is given against him In 11 R. 2. Tresilian and some others attainted of Treason for delivering Opinions in the Subversion of the Law and some others for plotting the like My Lords the Case hath upon another occasion been opened to your Lordships only this is observable that in the Parliament of the first year of Henry the Third where all Treasons are again reduced to the Statute of 25 E. 3. These Attainders were by a particular Act confirmed and made good that the memory thereof might be transmitted to succeeding Ages they stand good unto this day the offences there as here were the endeavouring the Subversion of the Laws My Lords after the 1 H. 4. Sir John Mortimer being committed to the Tower upon suspition of Treason brake Prison and made his escape This is no way within any Statute or any former Judgment at Common-Law for this that is for breaking the Prison only and no other cause in the Parliament held the second year of Henry the Sixth he was attainted of High-Treason by Bill My Lords Poysoning is only Murder yet one Richard Cooke having put Poyson into a Pot of Pottage in the Kitching of the Bishop of Rochester whereof two persons dyed he 's Attainted of Treason and it was Enacted that he should be Boyled to death by the Statute of 22 H. 8. c. 9. By the Statute of the 25. H. 8. Elizabeth Barton the Holy Maid of Kent for pretending Revelations from God That God was highly displeased with the King for being divorced from the Lady Catherine and that in
hear read I shall take leave according to Custome to say something of what I have collected from the Sense of that House concerning the Crimes therein contained Here the Charge was read containing his Extrajudicial Opinions subscribed and Judgment given for Ship-Money and afterward a declaration in his Charge at an Assize That Ship-Money was so inherent a Right in the Crown that it would not be in the Power of a Parliament to take it away MY Lords Not only my Wants but my Affections render me less fit for this Employment for though it has not been my happiness to have the Law a part of my Breeding there is no man Honours that Profession more or has a greater Reverence towards the grave Judges the Oracles thereof Out of Parliament all our Courts of Justice are governed or directed by them and when a Parliament is call'd if your Lordships were not assisted by them and the House of Commons by other Gentlemen of that Robe Experience tells us it might run a hazard of being styled Parliamentum indoctorum But as all Professions are obnoxious to the Malice of the Professours and by them most easily betrayed so my Lords these Articles have told you how these Brothers of the Coyf are become fratres in malo how these Sons of the Law have torn out the Bowels of their Mother But this Judge whose Charge you last heard in one Expression of his excells no less his Fellows then they have done the worst of their Predecessors in this Conspiracy against the Common-wealth Of the Judgment for Ship-Money and those Extrajudicial Opinions preceding the same wherein they are joyntly concerned you have already heard how unjust and pernicious a proceeding that was in so publick a Cause has been sufficiently expressed to your Lordships But this Man adding Despair to our Misery tells us from the Bench That Ship-Money was a Right so inherent in the Crown that it would not be in the power of an Act of Parliament to take it away Herein my Lords he did not only give as deep a Wound to the Common-wealth as any of the rest but dipt his dart in such a poyson that so far as in him lay it might never receive a cure As by those abortive Opinions subscribing to the Subversion of our Propriety before he heard what could be said for it he prevented his own so by this declaration of his he endeavours to prevent the Judgment of your Lordships too and to confine the power of a Parliament the only place where this Mischief might be redrest Sure he is more Wise and Learned than to believe himself in this Opinion or not to know how ridiculous it would appear to a Parliament and how dangerous to himself and therefore no doubt but by saying no Parliament could abolish this Judgment his meaning was That this Judgment had abolish't Parliaments This Imposition of Ship-Money springing from a pretended necessity was it not enough that it was now grown annual but he must intail it upon the State for ever at once making Necessity inherent to the Crown and slavery to the Subject Necessity which dissolving all Law is so much more prejudicial to his Majesty than to any of us by how much the Law has invested his Royal State with a greater power and ampler fortune for so undoubted a truth it has ever been that Kings as well as Subjects are involved in the confusion which necessity produces that the Heathen thought their Gods also obliged by the same Pareamus necessitati quam nec homines nec Dii superant This Judge then having in his Charge at the Assize declared the dissolution of the Law by this supposed Necessity with what Conscience could he at the same Assize proceed to condemn and punish men unless perhaps he meant the Law was still in force for our destruction and not for our preservation that it should have power to kill but none to protect us a thing no less horrid then if the Sun should burn without lighting us or the Earth serve only to bury and not to feed and nourish us But my Lords to demonstrate that this was a suppositious imposed necessity and such as they could remove when they pleased at the last Convention in Parliament a price was set upon it For Twelve Subsidies you shall reverse this Sentence It may be said that so much Money would have removed the present necessity but here was a Rate set upon future necessity For Twelve Subsidies you shall never suffer necessity again you shall for ever abolish that Judgment Here this mystery is revealed this visour of necessity is pulled off and now it appears that this Parliament of Judges had very frankly and bountifully presented his Majesty with Twelve Subsidies to be levyed on your Lordships and the Commons Certainly there is no Priviledg which more properly belongs to a Parliament then to open the Purse of the Subject and yet these Judges who are neither capable of Sitting among us in the House of Commons nor with your Lordships otherwise then as your assistants have not only assumed to themselves this priviledg of Parliament but presumed at once to make a Present to the Crown of all that either your Lordships or the Commons of England do or shall hereafter possess And because this man has had the boldness to put the power of Parliament in ballance with the Opinion of the Judges I shall entreat your Lordships to observe by way of comparison the solemn and safe proceeding of the one with the precipitate dispatch of the other In Parliament as your Lordships know well no new Law can pass or old be abrogated till it has been thrice read with your Lordships thrice in the Commons House and then it receives the Royal Assent so that 't is like Gold seven times purified whereas these Judges by this one Resolution of theirs would perswade his Majesty that by naming Necessity he might at once dissolve at least suspend the Great Charter 32 times confirmed by his Royal Progenitors the Petition of Right and all other Laws provided for the maintenance of the Right and Propriety of the Subject A strange Force my Lords in the sound of this word Necessity that like a Charm it should silence the Laws while we are despoyled of all we have for that but a part of our Goods was taken is owing to the Grace and Goodness of the King for so much as concerns these Judges we have no more left then they perhaps may deserve to have when your Lordships shall have passed Judgment upon them This for the neglect of their Oaths and betraying that Publick Trust which for the Conservation of our Laws was reposed in them Now for the cruelty and unmercifulness of this Judgment You may please to remember that in the Old Law they were forbid to seeth a Kid in his Mother's milk of which the received Interpretation is That we should not use that to the destruction of any Creature which was
intended for its preservation Now my Lords God and Nature have given us the Sea as our best guard against our Enemies and our Ships as our greatest Glory above other Nations and how barbarously would these men have let in the Sea upon us at once to wash away our Liberties and to overwhelm if not our Land all the Propriety we have therein making the supply of our Navy a pretence for the ruine of our Nation For observe I beseech you the fruit and consequence of this Judgment how this mony hath prospered how contrary an effect it hath had to the end for which they pretended to take it On every County a Ship is Annually imposed and who would not expect but our Seas by this time should be covered with the number of our Ships Alas my Lords the daily Complaints of the decay of our Navy tell us how ill Ship-mony hath maintained the Sovereignty of the Sea and by the many Petitions which we receive from the Wives of those miserable Captives at Algier being between Four and Five Thousand of our Countrey-men it does too evidently appear that to make us slaves at home is not the way to keep us from being made slaves abroad so far has this Judgment been from relieving the present or preventing the future necessity that as it changed our real Propriety into the shadow of a Propriety so of a feigned it has made a real necessity A little before the approach of the Gauls to Rome while the Romans had yet no apprehension of that danger there was heard a voice in the Air louder than ordinary The Gauls are come which voice after they had sack't the City and besieged the Capitol was held so ominous that Livie relates it as a Prodigy This Anticipation of necessity seems to have been no less ominous to us These Judges like ill boading Birds have call'd necessity upon the State in a time when I dare say they thought themselves in greatest security but if it seem superstitious to take this as an Omen sure I am we may look on it as a Cause of the unfained necessity we now suffer for what regret and discontent had this Judgment bred among us And as when the Noise and Tumult in a private house grows so loud as to be heard into the Streets it calls in the next Dwellers either kindly to appease or to make their own use of the Domestick strife so in all likelihood our known discontents at home have been a concurrent cause to invite our Neighbours to visit us so much to the expence and trouble of both these Kingdoms And here My Lords I cannot but take notice of the most sad effect of this Oppression the ill influence it has had upon the Ancient Reputation and Valour of the English Nation And no wonder for if it be true Oppression makes a Wise-man Mad it may well suspend the courage of the Valiant The same happened to the Romans when for renown in Arms they most excell'd the rest of the World the Story is but short 'T was in the time of Decemviri and I think the chief troublers of our State may make up that number The Decemviri My Lords had Subverted the Laws Suspended the Courts of Justice and which was the greatest grievance both to the Nobility and People had for some years omitted to Assemble the Senate which was their Parliament This says the Historian did not only deject the Romans and make them despair of their liberty but caused them to be less valued by their Neighbours The Sabines take the advantage and invade them and now the Decemviri are forced to call the long desired Senate whereof the People were so glad that Hostibus belloque gratiam habuerunt This Assembly breaks up in discontent nevertheless the War proceeds Forces are raised led by some of the Decemviri and with the Sabines they meet in the field I know your Lordships expect the Event my Author's words of his Country-men are these Ne quid ductu aut auspicio Decemvirorum prospere gereretur vinci se patiebantur They chose rather to suffer a present Diminution of Honour then by Victory to confirm the Tyranny of their new Masters At their return from this unfortunate Expedition after some Distempers and Expostulations of the People another Senate that is a second Parliament is called and there the Decemviri are questioned deprived of their Authority imprisoned banished and some lose their lives and soon after this Vindication of their Liberties the Romans by their better Success made it appear to the World that Liberty and Courage dwell always in the same Breast and are never to be Divorced No doubt My Lords but your Justice shall have the like effect upon this dispirited people 't is not the Restauration of our Ancient Laws alone but the Restitution of our Ancient Courage which is expected from your Lordships I need not say any thing to move your just indignation that this Man should so cheaply give away that which your Noble Ancestors with so much Courage and Industry had so long maintained You have often been told how careful they were though with the hazzard of their Lives and Fortunes to derive those Rights and Liberties as entire to Posterity as they received them from their Fathers what they did with labour you may do with ease what they did with danger you may do securely the Foundation of our Laws is not shaken with the Engine of War they are only blasted with the breath of these men and by our breath may be restored What Judgments your Predecessors have given and what punishments their Predecessors have suffered for offences of this nature your Lordships have already been so well informed that I shall not trouble you with the repetition of those Precedents Only my Lords something I shall take leave to observe of the person with whose Charge I have presented you that you may the less doubt of the wilfulness of his offence His Education in the Inns of Court his constant practice as a Councellor and his experience as a Judge considered with the mischief he has done makes it appear that this progress of his through the Law hath been like that of a diligent Spie through a Country into which he meant to conduct an Enemy To let you see he did not offend for company there is one Crime so peculiar to himself and of such malignity that it makes him at once uncapable of your Lordships favour and his own subsistence incompatible with the right and propriety of the Subject for if you leave him in a capacity of interpreting the Laws hath he not already declared his opinion That your Votes and Resolutions against Ship-mony are void and that it is not in the power of a Parliament to abolish that Judgment To him My Lords that hath thus plaid with the Power of Parliament we may well apply what was once said to the Goat browsing on the Vine Rode caper vitem tamen hinc
cùm stabis ad aras In tua quod fundi cornua possit erit He hath cropt and infring'd the priviledges of a banish'd Parliament but now it is returned he may find it has power enough to make a sacrifice of him to the better establishment of our Laws And in truth what other satisfaction can he make his injur'd Country then to confirm by his example those Rights and Liberties which he had ruined by his opinion For the proofs My Lords they are so manifest that they will give you little trouble in the disquisition his Crimes are already upon Record the Delinquent and Witness are the same having from several sorts of Judicature proclaimed himself an Enemy to our Laws and Nation Ex ore suo judicabitur To which purpose I am Commanded by the Knights Citizens and Burgesses of the House of Commons to desire your Lordships that as speedy a proceeding may be had against Mr. Justice Crawley as the Course of Parliament will permit The Articles against Mr. Justice Crawley were these Articles of the House of Commons in the Name of themselves and of all the Commons of England against Sir Francis Crawley Knight one of the Justices of His Majesties Court of Common-Pleas impeaching him as followeth 1. The Articles of Impeachment against Judge Crawley THat he about the Month of November Anno 1635. then being one of the Justices of the Court of Common-Pleas and having taken an Oath for the due Administartion of Justice to His Majesties Liege People according to the Laws and Statutes of this Realm subscribed an Opinion in haec verba I am of Opinion That as where the benefit doth more peculiarly redound to the good of the Ports or Maritime Parts as in Case of Piracy or Depredations upon the Seas there the Charge hath been and may be lawfully imposed upon them according to Presidents of former Times so where the good and safety of the Kingdom in general is concerned and the whole Kingdom in danger of which His Majesty is the only Judge there the charge of the Defence ought to be born by all the Realm in general This I hold agreeable both to Law and Reason 2. That he in or about the Month of February Anno 1636. Then being one of the Justices of the said Court of Common-Pleas subscribed an extrajudicial Opinion in answer to Questions in a Letter from His Majesty in haec verba ut supra in the Articles against Judge Berkley 3. That he then being one of the Justices of the said Court of Common-Pleas delivered an Opinion in the Exchequer Chamber against John Hampden Esquire in case of Ship-Money that he the said John Hampden upon the matter and substance of the case was chargable with the Money then in Question a Copy of which Proceedings and Judgment the Commons of this present Parliament have already delivered to your Lordships 4. That he then being one of the Justices of the said Court of Common-Pleas declared and published in the Exchequer Chamber in Westminster and the Circuit where he went Judge That the Kings Right to Ship-Money was so inherent a Right in the Crown as an Act of Parliament could not take it away And with divers malicious Speeches inveighed against threatned and discountenanced such as refused to pay Ship-Money All which Opinions and Judgments contained in the first second and third Articles are destructive to the Fundamental Laws of this Realm the Subjects right of Property and contrary to former Resolutions in Parliament and to the Petition of Right which said Resolutions and Petitions of Right were well known to him And the said Commons by Protestation saving to themselves only the Liberties of exhibiting at any time hereafter any other Accusation or Impeachment against the said Sir Francis Crawley and also of replying to the Answer that he the said Sir Francis Crawley shall make unto the said Articles or any of them or of offering Proof of the Premisses or of any of their Impeachments or Accusations that shall be exhibited by them as the Case shall according to the Course of Parliaments require Do pray that the said Sir Francis Crawley one of the Justices of the said Court of Common-Pleas may be put to answer to all and every the Premisses and that such Proceedings Examinations Tryals and Judgments may be upon every one of them had and used as is agreeable to Law and Justice The Articles of Impeachment against Sir John Bramston Knight Lord Chief Justice of the Court of Kings-Bench were as follow Articles of the House of Commons The Articles of Impeachment against Sir John Brampston Lord Chief Justice of the Kings Bench. in the name of themselves and all the Commons of England against Sir John Brampston Knight Lord Chief Justice of the Court of Kings Bench Impeaching him as followeth 1. THat the said Sir John Brampston then being Lord Chief Justice of the Court of Kings Bench and having taken an Oath for the due Administration of Justice to His Majesties Liege People according to the Laws and Statutes of this Realm did on or about the last of November 1635. Subscribe his Name to an Opinion in haec verba I am of Opinion that as where the benefit doth more peculiarly redound to the good of the Ports or Maritime parts as in case of Pyracy or Depredations upon the Seas there the Charge hath been and may be lawfully Imposed upon them according to Presidents of former times so where the good and safety of the Kingdom in General is coned and the whole Kingdom in danger of which His Majesty is the only Judg there the Charge of the defence ought to be born by all the Realm in General This I hold agreeable both to Law nnd Reason 2. That he the said Sir John Brampston then being Lord Chief Justice of the Court of Kings Bench about the Month of February 1635. did Subscribe an extrajudicial Opinion in answer to questions in a Letter from His Majesty ut supra in the Articles against Sir Robert Berkley Which said Opinions contained in the first and second Articles are destructive to the Fundamental Laws of this Realm the Subjects right of Propriety and contrary to former resolutions in Parliament and to the Petition of Right 3. That he the said Sir John Brampston then Lord Chief Justice of the Court of Kings Bench about Trinity Term 1637. refused to Bail or Discharge Alexander Jenings Prisoner in the Fleet brought by Habeas Corpus to the Barr before him the return of this Commitment being two several Warrants from the Lords of the Council Dated the fifth of November 1635. the first expressing no cause the other for not paying Messengers Fees and until he should bring Certificate that he had paid his Assesment for Ship-money in the County of Bucks And the said Sir John Brampston the first Warrant being only read then said The cause of his Commitment did not appear and that it was not fit for every Goaler to
He brings several undeniable Presidents and Instances In the 21 of R. 2. a Repeal of a former Sentence against the Spencers being Petitioned for in Parliament Rot. 55.56.21 R. 2. these Errors were assigned Because the Prelats Who are Peers of the Realm did not Assent to the Judgment and because it was made only by the Earls and Barons Peers of the Realm c. And because it was made against the Great Charter of England in which it is contained that no man shall be exiled or destroyed but by the Lawful Judgment of his Peers or by the Law of the Land By which it appears that the Judgment of that Parliament was That it was a Breach of the Magna Charta for the Temporal Lords to condemn a Peer without the Assent of the Bishops who are expresly declared to be Peers of the Realm Rot. 55. To be Peers in Parliament Rot. 56. and to be Peers of the Realm in Parliament Rot. 61. And all this too in the Case of Treason which is as a full Declaration of their Peerage as it is possible to make To the Second Position That they have a Right to Sit and Vote in Parliament in all Causes whatsoever even in Causa Sanguinis in Capital Cases which he proves by Reason and Presidents That by the Magna Charta a Law of the Highest value Confirmed by Thirty Acts of Parliament and with the most Solemn and dreadful Imprecations upon whosever of them or their Posterity should go about to violate it in any particular the Bishops have an equal Right with the Temporal Lords That they Sit in Parliament by the virtue of the same Writs of Summons that the other Barons do they are Summoned to Advise and Debate about the great and difficult Affairs of the Kingdom cum Praelatis Magnatibus Proceribus dicti Regni nostri Angliae colloquium habere tractatum Of all things indefinitely that shall be brought before them in that High and Honourable Court the Supream Judicature of the Nation and that there cannot be any Instance produced of a Writ of Summons with a Limitation or Restriction upon the Bishops excluding them from any matter of Debate Consultation Vote or Judicature belonging to the House of Lords The Temporal Barons also are Summoned indefinitely to Debate Handle and Consult with the Prelats in all things there to be done which would be impossible if in some of the most Important matters in point of Judicature the Lords the Bishops must be Totally Excluded That though the Constitution of Clarenden be urged as designed for a Limitation of the Bishops exercising Jurisdiction in the Case of Life or Mutilation of Members yet it is evident both from the Words and the occasion of that Law that they ought to be present for that this Constitution of Clarendon was made perfectly to oblige the Bishops to serve the King in the Capacity of their Temporal Baronies sicut caeteri Barones the Tenure being the same Et sicut Barones caeteri debent interesse Judiciis Curiae Regis cum Baronibus usque perveniatur in Judicio ad diminutionem Membrorum vel ad mortem the plain Sense of which words is that they ought to be present not only till such Causes of Life or Limb came before the rest of the Lords but at all preliminary Debates usque perveniatur not ad Judicium but in Judicio which supposes a Trial preceding till the Sentence came to be pronounced Now the occasion of this was the Papacy was then erecting their fifth Monarchy and indeavouring to set up an Independent Jurisdiction of the Church in all Kingdoms which the Kings very well perceiving were resolved to oppose and therefore to oblige them to this Service by vertue of the Tenures of their Temporal Baronies And this giving them a Concession to withdraw when the Sentence â—â—as pronounced was a particular favour of the King Thomas Becket a great Saint and Martyr in the Roman Calendar stoutly opposed this as an inchroachment upon the Liberties of the Church and indeed the Bishops who had all along the Saxon Government sate in the great Councils by virtue of their Spiritual Capacity there being then no Temporal Baronies they thought the Conquerors imposing this Tenure upon their Estates a very hard Servitude and Badge of Slavery to the Secular Power but that notwithstanding their Reluctancy this Salvo seemed a little to qualify the matter so that they did Vote in such Cases till the Sentence came to be pronounced appears from Petrus Blesensis who taxes them of Collusion for submitting to this Constitution of Clarendon Principes sacerdotum saith he Seniores Populi Pet. Blesen de Inst Epic. p. 454. licet non dictent Judicia Sanguinis eadem tamen tractant disputando disceptando de illis seque ideo imnunes à Culpa reputant quod Mortis aut truncation is membrorum judicium decernentes á pronuntiatione duntaxat Executione Penalis Sententiae se abstinent Although saith he they do not give Judgment in Cases of Blood yet do they handle treat and debate about them and think themselves innocent because in the determinations of Cases of Life and Limb they absent themselves at the pronouncing or execution of the Penal Sentence This Statute of Clarendon was made in February and in the October following the King Summons a Parliament to Northampton Fitz. Steph. vit Tho. Becket de Concil apud Clarendon Mss in Bibliotheca Cottoniana in which Becket in which Becket was for opposing this Constitution wasting the Kings Treasure and other Crimes accused of Treason in the Debate whereof the Bishops Sate with the other Barons and because the matter did not come to a Sentence of Death after great Debate between the other Lords the Bishops about pronouncing the Sentence the Bishop of Winchester did it But Becket making an Appeal to the Pope the Bishops being afraid of him they endeavoured to persuade the King to desist his further prosecution till that matter was determined But the King being resolute pressed them to their Duty notwithstanding Beckets Prohibition to them to the contrary from the obligation of the Statute of Clarendon to which they had Sworn Asserens quod non teneat haec ejus simplex Prohibitio contra hoc quod Clarendoniae factum initum fuerat affirming that this single Prohibition of Beckets could not bind them against what was done and agreed to at Clarendon From all which it is plain that in fact the Bishops did Debate and Vote in a Capital Case and were obliged by this Statute so to do and it was a Favour indulged them to be absent at the giving of the final Judgment or Sentence of Death or loss of Limbs In the 5. H. 4. The Earl of Northumberland was in Parliament Impeached of Treason Rot. Par. n. 17.5 H. 4. and after Examination of the whole matter he clearly acquitted himself of the charge upon which it is said in the Record Et
auxi mesmes les Communes remercierment les seigneurs Espirituelx Temporelx de lour bon droiturell Jugment quils auoint fait come Piers du Parlement That the said Commons returned thanks to the Lords Temporal and Spiritual for the good and upright Judgment which they had made as Peers of Parliament In the 2 of H. 6 John Lord Talbot accused James Boteler Earl of Ormond Rot. Par. n. 9. 2 H. 6. in Parliament of sundry Treasons and the Record saith That De avisamento assensu Dominorum Spiritualium Temporalium ac Communitatis Regni Angliae in eodem Parliamento existent ' facta fuit quaedam Abolitio delationis nunciatonis Detectionis predict ' c. By the advice and consent of the Lords Spiritual and Temporal and the Commons of England there was made a certain abolition of the said Accusation Relation and Discovery From which Presidents it is evident that the Lords the Bishops did Sit and Debate Vote and Determin in Causes Capital as well as the other Temporal Lords The third Position is that they are a third Estate in Parliament Which is proved both by undeniable Reason and undoubted Presidents and Records That there are three Estates in the Parliament of England is a matter on all hands allowed But some Persons who would bring down the Soveraignty to a Coordinacy do affirm that the King is the third Estate the Lords making one and the Commons the other which dangerous Position as it doth submit the Monarchy to great hazzards so it gave occasion and colour to the taking away of the Peerage of the Bishops the third Estate notwithstanding their Exclusion being according to this principle left as Intire in the Lords House as it was upon the Exclusion of the Lord Abbots in the time of King Henry the Eighth Now that the King is not one of the three Estates and consequently that the Lords the Bishops must be so and were ever accounted so evidently appears by the Records of our Parliaments which are cited to this purpose as follows In the Parliament of 1. H. 4. By the Roll it appears that King Richard the Second appointed two Procurators to declare his Resignation of the Crown coram omnibus Statibus Regni before all the States of the Realm and one of the Articles against him was concerning his Impeachment of Thomas Arch-Bishop of Canterbury coram Rege omnibus Statibus Regni before the King and all the Estates of the Realm And who all these Estates of the Realm were it most fully appears in that the Commissioners for the Sentence of this unfortunate Kings deposition are said to be appointed Per Pares Proceres Regni Anglia Spirituales Temporales ejusdem Regni Communitates omnes status ejusdem Regni representantes By the Peers and Nobility of the Kingdom of England Spiritual and Temporal and the Commons of the same representing all the Estates of the said Realm So that First the Bishops are declared Peers of the Realm in Parliament Secondly The Estates of the Parliament are to represent all the Estates of the Kingdom Clergy Nobility and Commons Thirdly The three Estates in Parliament are the Lords Spiritual the Lords Temporal and the Commons of the Realm In the Roll of Parliament Rot. Parl. 1. R. 3. 1. R. 3. it is Recorded That whereas before his Coronation certain Articles were delivered unto him in the name of the three Estates of the Realm that is to say of the Lords Spiritual Lords Temporal and of the Commons by name c. Now forasmuch as neither the said three Estates neither the said Persons which in their name presented and delivered as it is aforesaid the said Roll unto our Soveraign Lord the King were Assembled in Form of Parliament divers doubts have been moved c. Now by the said three Estates Assembled in this present Parliament and by Authority of the same be ratified and Enrolled c. Upon which Record Mr. Prinn himself makes this Marginal Note The three Estates must concur to make a Parliament no one or two of them being a full or Real Parliament but all conjoyned In the 3. H. 6. it is said in the Record Prinn Abridgments of Records p. 710. 714. the three Estates Assembled in this present Parliament In the Explanation of the Duke of Bedford's Power as Protector It is said it was advised and appointed by the Authority of the King Assenting the three Estates of this Realm so that it is plain that the King was not then accounted one of them Rot. Par. 3. H. 6. n. 19. 6. H. 6. n. 24. In the 11. H. 6. The Duke of Bedford appeared in Parliament and declared the Reason of his coming coram Domino Rege tribus Statibus Regni before the King and the three Estates of the Realm 11. Hen. 6. n. 10. and n. 2. n. 2. N. 11. Domino Rege tribus Regni Statibus in presenti Parliamento Existentibus Our Lord the King and the three Estates in Parliament being present where the King is plainly distinct from the three Estates 11. H. 6. N. 2. The Lord Cromwell Lord Treasurer Exhibits a Petition in Parliament wherein he saith that the Estate and necessity of the King and of the Realm have been notified to the three Estates of the Land Assembled in Parliament In the Appendix to the Rolls of Parliament that Year the Duke of Bedford saith in his Petition to the King How that in your last Parliament yit lyked your Hyghness by yaduis of three Estates of yis Land to will me c. 23. H. 6. N. 11. Presente Domino Rege 23. H. 6. n. 11. tribus Statibus in presenti Parliamento Existentibus c. Our Lord the King being present and the three Estates in the present Parliament Assembled 28. H. 6. N. 9. Domino Rege 28. H. 6. n. 9. tribus Regni Statibus in pleno Parliamento comparentibus c. Our Lord the King and the three Estates in full Parliament appearing c. 1. H. 6. 1. H. 6. The Queen Dowager in her Petition mentioning the Ratification made in Parliament 9. H. 5. saith it was not only sworn by the King but by the three Estates of the Kingdom of England Cest assavoir Les Prelatz Nobles Grands per les Comuns de mesm le Royalm Dengleterre That is to say by the Prelats Nobles and Great Men and by the Commons of the said Realm of England And since the Reformation In the 8 of Eliz. 1. 8. Eliz. 1. The Bishops are in Parliament called one of the greatest States of this Realm From all which Instances it plainly appears First That there are three Estates in the Fundamental Constitution of every Parliament Secondly That there are three Estates besides the King and consequently that he cannot be one of the three Thirdly that the Lords Spiritual the Bishops are a Third Estate of the Realm in Parliament
Parliament Assembled not for any Doubt or Ambiguity which may be conceived or thought of for or concerning the Premisses nor of the ensuing Questions But for the manifestation and declaration of the Clear Truth and of the said Laws and Statutes already planted and for many Ages past settled in this Kingdom the said Knights Citizens and Burgesses do therefore pray That the House of the Lords may be pleased to Command the Judges of this Kingdom forthwith to declare in Writing their Resolutions of and unto the ensuing Questions and subscribe to the same Quest 1. WHether the Subjects of this Kingdom be a Free People and to be Governed only by the Common Laws of England and Statutes of Force in this Kingdom 2. Whether the Judges of this Land do take the Oath of Judges And if so Whether under pretext of any Act of State Proclamation Writ Letter or Direction under the Great or Privy Seal or Privy Signet or Letter or other Commandment from the Lord Lieutenant Lord Deputy Justice Justices or other Governor or Governors of this Kingdom they may hinder stay or delay the Suit of any Subject or his Judgment or Execution thereupon If so in what Cases And whether if they do hinder stay or delay such Suit Judgment or Execution thereupon what Punishment did they incur for their deviation or transgression therein 3. Whether the Kings Majesties Privy Council either with the Chief Governor or Governors of this Kingdom or without him or them be a Place of Judicature by the Common Laws and wherein Causes between Party and Party for Debts Trespasses Accompts Possessions or Title of Lands or any of them And which of them may be heard and determined and of what Civil Causes they have Jurisdiction and by what Law And of what Force is their Order or Decree in such Cases or any of them 4. The Like of the Chief Governor alone 5. Whether Grants of Monopolies be warranted by the Law and of what and in what Cases and how and where and by whom are the pretended Transgressors against such Grants punishable and whether by Fine Mutilation of Members Imprisonment Loss and Forfeiture of Goods or otherwise and which of them 6. In what Cases the Lord Lieutenant Lord Deputy or other Chief Governor or Governors of this Kingdom and Council may punish by Fine Imprisonment Mutilation of Members Pillory or otherwise And whether they may Sentence any to such the same or the like punishment for infringing the Commands of or concerning any Proclamation of and concerning Monopolies and what punishment do they incur that Vote for them 7. Of what Force is an Act of State or Proclamation in this Kingdom to bind the Liberties Goods Possessions or Inheritance of the Natives thereof whether or any of them can alter the Common Law or the Infringers of them loose their Goods Chattels or Leases or forfeit the same by Infringing any such Act of State or Proclamation or both And what punishment do the sworn Judges of the Law that are Privy Councellors incur that Vote for such Act and Execution thereof 8. Are the Subjects of this Kingdom subject to the Martial Law And whether any man in time of Peace no Enemy being in the Field with Banners displayed can be Sentenced to death If so by whom and in what Cases If not What Punishments do they incur that in time of Peace execute Martial Law 9. Whether Voluntary Oaths taken freely before Arbitrators for Affirmance or Disaffirmance of any thing or for the true performance of any thing be punishable in the Castle-Chamber or any other Court and why and wherefore 10. Why and by what Law or by what Rule of Policy is it that none is admitted to Reducement of Fines or other Penalties in the Castle-Chamber or Council Table untill he confess the Offence for which he is Censured when as Revera he might be innocent thereof tho suborned Proofs or Circumstances might induce the Censure 11. Whether the Judges of the Kings-Bench or any other Judge of Gaol-Delivery or of any other Court and by what Law do or can deny Copies of Indictment of Felony or Treason to the Parties accused contrary to Law 12. What Power have the Barons of the Court of Exchequer to raise the Respite of Homage arbitrarily to what Rate they please to what Value they may raise it by what Law they may distinguish between the Respit of Homage upon the diversity of the true value of the Fees when as Escuage is the same for great and small Fees and are apportionable by Parliament 13. Whether it be Censurable in the Subjects of this Kingdom to repair into England to appeal to his Majesty for Redress of Injuries or other Lawful Occasions If so why and in what Condition of Persons and by what Law 14. Whether Deans or other Dignitaries of Cathedral Churches be properly and de Mero jure Donative by the King and not Elective or Collative If so Why and by what Law And whether the Confirmation of a Dean de Facto of the Bishops Grant be good or valid in Law or no If not by what Law 15. Whether the issuing of Quo Warranto's out of the Kings-Bench or Exchequer against Boroughs that antiently and recently sent Burgesses to the Parliament to shew Cause why they sent Burgesses to the Parliament be Legal If not what punishment ought to be inflicted upon those that are or have been the Occasioners Procurers and Judges of and in such Quo Warranto's 16. By what Law are Jurors that give Verdict according to their Conscience and are the sole Judges of the Fact Censured in the Castle-Chamber in great Fines and sometime Pillored with loss of Ears and bored through the Tongue and marked sometimes in the Forehead with an Hot Iron and other like Infamous Punishments 17. By what Law are men Censurable in the Castle-Chamber with the Mutilation of Members or any other Brand of Infamy and in what Cases and what punishment in each Case there is due without Respect to the quality of the Person or Persons 18. Whether in the Censure in the Castle-Chamber Regard be to be had to the words of the Great Charter viz. Salvo Contenemento c. 19. Whether if one that steals a Sheep or commits any other Felony and after flyeth the Course of Justice or lyeth in Woods or Mountains upon his keeping be a Traytor If not whether a Proclamation can make him so 20. Whether the Testimony or Evidence of Rebels Traytors Protected Thieves or other infamous Persons be good Evidence in Law to be pressed upon the Tryals of Men for their Lives or whether the Judge or Jurors ought to be Judge of the matter in Fact 21. By what Law are Fairs and Markets to be held in Capite when no other express Tenure is mentioned in his Majesties Letters Patents or Grants of the same Fairs and Markets Altho the Rent or Yearly Sum be reserved thereout 22. Whether it stands with the Integrity of the
Government and Ordering of the Troops as well upon Service as at other times 4. For the better Encouragement of Worthy Men to undertake the Service in hope of Advancement and that at this very Instant Men of Merit that have had better Commands would be unwilling to serve in a more Inferior Condition than they have already 5. Though it be said That in Ireland Regiments will seldom come to fight in a Body yet it may fall out otherwise and then the inconvenience might prove of greater Consequence then the Charge 6. In Holland whilest their Troops were all single yet for the time they were to render Service in the Field they formed Regiments of them which had their Colonels and Majors appointed for that time which though they had no certain Pay by those Places Yet they had other Advantages by Governments Commanderies Companies of Foot Quarters and such like things to better their Condition and at last the Prince of Orange found it more convenient to settle the said Commands to Colonels and Majors although it were to the greater Charge of the State 7. Finally The General Practice of all Nations as the Germans Swedes French c. which have tryed all manner of wayes have for greater conveniency certainly formed their Cavalry into Regiments and most of them also allow a Lieutenant Colonel to every Regiment The Earl of Warwick and the Lord Digby Reported to the House the King's Answer touching the Petition of both Houses for continuing the Guards Viz. I Did Command the Guards to be dismissed The King's Answer concerning the Guards because I knew no Cause the Parliament had of Fears but I perceived the Molestation that the keeping of them would bring upon those Subjects of mine which were to perform that Service besides the General Apprehensions and Jealousies which thereby might disquiet all My People and I do Expect that when the Parliament shall desire of Me any thing like this Extraordinary and that which appears of ill consequence that they will give me such particular Reasons as may satisfie My Judgment if they expect I should grant their Desire Yet I am so tender of the Parliaments Safety to secure them not only from real but even imaginary Dangers That I will Command my Lord of Dorset to appoint some of the Train-Bands only for a few dayes to wait on both Houses in which time if I shall be satisfied that there is Just Reason I will continue them and likewise take such a Curse for the Safety of My Own Person as shall be fit of which I doubt not but that they have as Tender a Care as of their own It was then Ordered That this Answer shall be communicated to the House of Commons at a Conference An Order was this day made to put off all private business till the first day of Hillary Term Private Business set aside by Order of the House of Lords and to be Printed and Published to prevent the Charge and Trouble which otherwise Petitioners who have Causes depending might be put to in attending the House of Lords This day William Shelden Esquire Monday Novemb. 29. The two Sheldens acquitted of Beal's Plot. and Edward Shelden his Brother who had been taken up by virtue of an Order of the 27th of Novemb. upon suspition about Beal's Information of the 108 men who were to Kill the Parliament-Men appearing before the Lords and nothing of Complaint being against them It was thought fit and so Ordered That they should be forthwith discharged of any further attendance and be freed from any further Restraint Then a Letter was read written to the Lord Chamberlain from the Earl of St. Albans dated the 14th of November 1641. from Ireland the Principal Contents whereof were these THat the Town of Gallaway in Ireland is well Fortified Letter from the E. of St. Albans in Ireland and in Command of Mr. Willoughby That the Province wherein his Lordship lives doth utterly mislike the proceedings of the Rebels That the County of Mayo is quiet That 2000 Rebels are out in Levain but 4 Towns stand out That it is a thing of Consequence that Brian O Rourk here in England should be secured as conceiving him to be a dangerous person in this time of Rebellion in Ireland if he should Escape That the whole Province of Munster is yet quiet And lastly his Lordship ended with a Protestation of his Faith and Loyalty to the Crown of England while he lives and will dye in the same and will imploy all his Strength and Endeavours to assist the King for the Suppression of the Rebels Whereupon the Lord Chamberlain was Ordered to return him the Thanks of the House and the Letter to be communicated to the House of Commons The Bill for securing Recusants with amendments as also the Order for securing to the City the two fifty thousand pounds were carried up to the Lords In the House of Commons they were very busie upon a new Bill for Tonnage and Poundage for the Reader is to take notice that the Bills before mentioned were but from two Months to two Months It was also Voted That the Lords should be desired to move the King that the Earl of Salisbury may be Lord Treasurer and the Earl of Pembroke Lord High Steward of His Majesties Houshold The Amendments and Alterations in the Bill concerning the securing of Popish Recusants Tuesday Novemb. 30. were this day read and it was in the Debate taken into consideration whether the first Clause should stand which was That the Persons of Recusants should be restrained as the Lords in Parliament should think fit or whether it should be altered according as the House of Commons desired which was That the Lords should have power to dispose of the Persons of Lords and the Commons of Commoners And in conclusion it was agreed upon That for the alterations of the Names of the Persons in the Bill and the places of Dwellings and the Alterations of time this House agrees and consents to but for the rest the House adheres to the former Clause in the Bill The Bill for Tonnage and Poundage brought up from the Commons by Mr. Solliciter was read three times Successively Bill for Tonnage and Poundage passed the Lords and upon the Question it was Resolved to pass as a Law Nemine Contradicente The Order for securing the Mony borrowed of the City was likewise read and assented to which was as follows THe Lords and Commons in this present Parliament Assembled The Order for securing the Money borrowed of the City for the Northern expedition and Ireland having a due regard to the good Affections of the City of London expressed upon sundry Occasions by the advancing and lending of great Sums of Money for the service of this Common-wealth and particularly the Sum of 50000 l. for supplying the present Affairs in Ireland all which the said Lords and Commons do take in very good part and being resolved to make
not to tender a thing called a Plea and Demurrer As also that the Commons conceive they ought to have been called in this Case for that they have desired it in both their Charges to be present at their Answer and that it was their Right to have been called Further They observe the long delay to the Commons for that they having charged these 13 Bishops long since for meer matter of Fact to be brought so late to Answer may introduce great inconveniencies in this particular and in the Consequences and is not Exampled by former Precedents That therefore upon these Grounds the Commons desire the Lords they may be admitted to make good their proof against these 13 Bishops and that they may be brought to Judgment It was this day Ordered by the Lords Tuesday Decemb. 7. Some Causes in Parliament determinable in no other Court That Forasmuch as the Cause between Smith and Busby in a Writ of Error decidable in no other Court but in Parliament in regard the Suit was Commenced by Original Writ and depending long before the Lords here it having been sundry days attended for Argument with Counsel And being it is a matter in Law the presence of the Judges is thought needful and so cannot be heard in the Term without prejudice to the several Courts of Westminster-Hall It is therefore Ordered by this House That the said Case shall be argued at this Bar on Thursday Sevennight next being the 16th of this Instant December and the Judges are desired to be present at the said Argument And further That the Parties of either side or their Council are to attend and come prepared for arguing and debating the Points in the said Case at their perils The following Commission to give Power to the English Commissioners of both Houses to Treat with the Scots Commissioners touching the Affairs of Ireland was read viz. CHARLES by the Grace of God The King's Commission to several Lords and Commons to treat with the Scots Commissioners concerning assistance for Ireland c. To Our right Trusty and right Well-beloved Cousin William Earl of Bedford and to Our right Trusty and right Well-beloved Cousin and Councellor Robert Earl of Leicester Lieutenant General and Governor General of Our Realm of Ireland as also to Our Trusty and right Well-beloved Edward Lord Howard of Escrick and likewise to Our Trusty and right Well-beloved Nathanael Fines Esq Sir William Armyn Baronet Sir Philip Stapleton Knight John Hampden Esq Greeting Know ye That We reposing assured Trust and Confidence in your approved Wisdoms Fidelities and great Abilities have Nominated Constituted and Appointed you to be our Commissioners and by these presents do give full Power and Authority unto you or any Three or more of you whereof the said Earl of Bedford Earl of Leicester or Lord Howard to be one to Treat and Consult with Our Right Trusty and Right Well beloved Cosins William Earl of Lothian and John Earl of Lindsay Our Commissioners of Our Scottish Nation of and concerning Our Irish Affairs for the quieting and suppressing of all Tumults Insurrections and Rebellions moved and raised in Our Realm of Ireland and settling Peace and Tranquillity therein according to such Instructions and Directions as you shall hereafter from time to time receive from Vs in that behalf Wherefore We Will Require and Command you or any three or more of you whereof the said Earl of Bedford Earl of Leicester and Lord Howard to be one forthwith with all diligence to attend the Execution of this Our Commission accordingly And whatsoever you shall do in this behalf according to the Tenor hereof this Our Commission shall be your sufficient Warrant and Discharge for the same Witness Our Self at Westminster the 7th day of December in the 17th Year of Our Reign c. The late Bishop of Lincoln now Archbishop of York Late Bishop of Lincoln now Archbishop of York Reports the Conference concerning the Bishops Impeached Reported the Conference with the Commons Yesterday concerning the Impeached Bishops which because it differs from the Heads Reported for that purpose by Mr. Glyn in the Commons Journal I thought it not amiss to insert His Grace Reported That Mr. Glyn said That the Knights Citizens and Burgesses of the House of Commons having lately received a Message from their Lordships that their Lordships had appointed this day to hear the Plea and Demurrer of the Bishops and that such of the House of Commons might be there as they thought fitting commanded him to deliver unto their Lordships these Particulars That the Canons and Constitutions in Question were voted by both Houses to contain Matters contrary to the King's Prerogative the Laws of the Land the Right of Parliament the Propriety and Liberty of the Subject and many matters tending to Sedition and of dangerous Consequence That thereupon the House of Commons to the intent to bring this Matter to Judgment brought up their Impeachment of the 13 Bishops 4th Augusti last which was read verbatim This was all that was acted 4o. Augusti But least this Impeachment might prove too general they brought up a second Charge or Impeachment 13 Augusti which was read in haec verba Whereas the Knights Citizens c. which to avoid Tautologies the Reader may see before in the Transactions of the 13 August By the bringing of this second Impeachment the House of Commons conceive they had satisfied two main Objections 1. That the Book of Canons and Constitutions was not particularly instanced upon in the first which now they punctually deliver with the Impeachment 2. That they had not before charged any thing in particular but now they did That all and every the said Canons and Constitutions and Grants of Benevolence c. were and are contrary c. as in the Vote And hereupon they desired the 13 Bishops might be put to their Answers and yet for all this Desire of the Commons 13. Augusti they had several times which spent almost a Quarter of a Year given them to answer in Their last and peremptory day was the 10th of November last and then they put in no Answer at all but a certain Writing which they are pleased to call a Plea and Demurrer Vpon notice hereof the House of Commons returned an Answer That whereas they had impeached 13 Bishops whereof one of them had pleaded Not Guilty and the rest had neither confessed nor denyed the Impeachment they desired a prefixed day to descend to Proofs and make good the Charge Soon after they received a Message from their Lordships That their Lordships had appointed this day to hear the Demurrer argued Hence it appears That notwithstanding divers daies are given to the Bishops to answer nothing is brought in but a Plea and Demurrer which was not to be admitted for two several Reasons 1. No Defence ought to be made to an Impeachment brought in by the Commons but in the presence of the Commons and it ought to be
Compositions he hath paid near 100000 l. into the Exchequer and they had no other Priviledges than what was exercised in the Commission and in former like Commissions and as are in the present Commission to the Lord Treasurer and others To the Nineteenth he saith The last Summer was twelve months when the English and Scotch lay in the Fields near Berwick the Earl and Council of Ireland having a general motion thereof were in fear that the Scots in Vlster being almost 100000 in number might be drawn to side with the Covenanters and advising how to secure that Kingdom the Principal of the Nation of Scotland living in Ireland came to Dublin and Petitioned That he might have an Oath whereby they might give Testimony of future Obedience to His Majesty whereupon an Oath was by the Advice of Council of State framed and chearfully taken by those Scotch Gentlemen and generally by all the Nation in Ireland as the Earl conceives to their advantage and the satisfaction of others he believes that some were Sentenced for refusing it but none were otherwise exiled The Earl in his Vote said That he would endeavour that all of that Nation should take that Oath or leave the Kingdom all which was done by His Majesties Direction and Approbation and it was not contrived to the intents in the Article Charged but to prevent their adhering to the Covenanters then in open Arms and not concerning the Ceremony or Government of the Church To the Twentieth he saith That in the Year 1638. the Earl was in Ireland when Preparations were made for War and Summons sent to the Nobility of this Kingdom In the Year 1639. a General was appointed and an Army drawn to the Field and Encamped near Berwick whereby it appears he was not acquainted that the Article of Pacification had been broken on both Sides and so distempered that it was held fit an Army in England should be raised to suppress the Covenanters if the business could not with Honour and Safety be otherwise composed The said Earl humbly advised His Majesty to call a Parliament and used many Motives thereunto after the Parliament was called and before the Sitting thereof ten of the Lords and other of the Council for Forreign Affairs being assembled His Majesty then present an Honourable Person related the Covenanters Demands it was then Voted by all That they were such as might not in Honour and Safety be condescended unto by His Majesty and if they could not be otherwise reduced His Majesty must be constrained to bring them to it by force the like Resolution was after at the Council-Table by twenty of the Council Whereupon His Majesty appointed a Council of War and it was held necessary to borrow 200000 l. upon good Security till the Supplies by the Parliament might come in He never said the Scotch Nation were Rebels but was ever perswaded that many of them are most Loyal Subjects Those that raised Arms when they were at such distance from His Majesty he might say they were no less than Rebels and Traytors by Warrant from the Lord Admiral he caused divers Ships and Goods to be seized but not with an intent to set on the War but as much as in him lay to bring all to fair Accommodation without expence of blood To the 21th he saith The pacification was broken before he came over as in the Answer to the former Article he moved His Majesty for a Parliament in England but not with such intent as in the Article but out of a desire to have settled a right Understanding between the King and His people It may be he said though he remembreth it not that if the Parliament would not Supply His Majesty he would serve His Majesty in any other lawful way being well assured that His Majesty would not imploy him nor any man else in any other kind To the 22th he saith According to His Majesties Instructions he did set forth to the Parliament of Ireland the State of the Affairs as they then stood and they freely gave four Subsidies as an acknowledgment of His Goodness and happy Government as by the Act and Remonstrance appears in Print He by His Majesties Direction then gave Order for the raising of 8000 Men who still remain in the King's pay and were sent into Vlster to secure those Parts or to land in Scotland to divert the Earl of Argile in case he joyned with the Covenanters Army against the King but it was mentioned in the King's Letter 2 Martii 1639. he had purposely given out That they should join with the King's Army at Berwick to colour other Designs but the true cause of their Levying was made known to be as aforesaid unto the Earl of Ormond Sir John Burlace and the Marquiss of Hamilton and Earl of Northumberland at the time of the writing the Letter and he denies the words charged in the Articles or any other words to such intent and purpose To the 23th he saith The matters of the Parliament were no otherwise referred to him than to the rest of the Council that coming sick from Ireland about ten days after the Parliament were set and after the Treaty with the Earl of Dunfermline Lord Lowdon Scotch Commissioners was broken off and the Army preparing and the Parliament not supplying Monies as His Majesty desired His Majesty advised what might move them to prefer His Supply in debate whereof he humbly advised His Majesty by a Message to the House to lay down Ship-Money and promise never to demand it and give way to reverse the Judgment by a Writ of Error in Parliament and to promise a Redress of Grievances when they should be prepared And secondly That they would presently agree upon such Supply as should maintain His Army for reducing the Scots to their Obedience wherein their Safety and His Honour was concerned His Majesty assented conditionally that he might have 12 Subsidies the Earl besought Him that it might not pass as a Condition but to Relinquish Ship-Money and put himself upon their Affections and drew up the Message in Writing and delivered it to Mr. Secretary Vane to deliver to the House of Commons He desired to know if His Majesty would not take less than 12 His Majesty Answered He feared less would not serve His Occasions The Earl of Strafford besought His Majesty to accept of Eight so His Majesty assented and desired Mr. Secretary to signifie so much as occasion should be offered but whether he did so or not the said Earl knoweth not The House of Commons being in debate two days and not Resolving His Majesty about the 5th of May last called a Council at Seven of the Clock in the Morning the said Earl being sick came late and was told as he remembreth by the Earl of Bark-shire the King had declared His Resolution to Dissolve the Parliament the Earl of Strafford besought His Majesty to hear the Advice of His Council and first of those that were Members of the
proved by the Testimony of many Witnesses upon consideration of the precedent concurrent and subsequent Acts and Intentions of my Lord of Strafford I shall not now run over my Lord Primate's Testimony or my Lord Conwaye's or Master Treasurer's or my Lord of Bristol's but make use of them in their proper places when I shall put all together to shew his design and to prove his speaking of the words Then he comes to the Five and twentieth Article which I shall not insist on though he pretends it not proved I shall refer that to my recollection that I may not answer to his pieces but bring all together and then the horror of his Fact shall more speciously appear Only this under favour I cannot pass over when he comes to justify an Advice and Counsel of the King 's being loose and absolved from all rules of Government and that he might use his Prerogative as he pleases he is pleased to mention the Argument of the Judges in the Ship-Money and what they should deliver he makes the Warrant of his Counsel Now your Lordships may observe he would Justifie his Actions by Law in some cases where it is to his advantage but in other cases he must be ignorant of the Law But my Lords for him to mention any thing in the Argument of the Judges concerning the Ship-money which is now condemned and to make that a ground of his Counsel and advice to the King and not the Judgment in truth but the Argument of the Counsel at Bar that therefore he is loose and absolved from all rule of Government for him to make the Parliaments deferring to give supply to be that necessity which was insisted upon in the Counsels Argument and to be such an unavoidable necessity as to beget an Invasion upon Propriety and Liberty it rests in your Judgments and the Judgments of all that hear me what Argument this is and what he declares his opinion to be this day In the latter part let me close hands and agree with him he sayes Proofs must be taken by themselves they must not be Judged by pieces but together and now in good time I shall joyn with him and shall desire the same Judgment that things may not be taken asunder but Judged together according to his own words For the twentieth Article he is thereby charged with being an Incendiary between both Nations and an occasion of drawing two Armies into this Kingdom and to incense the War My Lords I remember if I did not mis-conceive and my memory mis-prompt me my Lord said He could have no occasion to incense a War being a man of an Estate and should have no benefit by it having sufficient to live without it but in due time I shall make it appear to my apprehension and I believe to your Lordships when you have heard it that the incensing of this War and provoking of it was the principal instrument of bringing to pass his design of subverting the Laws through the whole work of it My Lords in the passage of this he takes occasion to speak of the Testimony of Mr. Secretary Vane who testifies That my Lord was for an Offensive and himself for a Defensive War Whence my Lord argues here is no great difference for both were for a War But my Lord Is there no difference between an offensive and defensive War in case of Subjects that live under one King is there no difference to bring an Army to offend them and for the King to raise a force to defend himself truly I think there is a great difference and a very material one too but your Lordships see he makes no difference between them My Lords In the four and twentieth Article he mentions That he is charged with being an occasion to break the Parliament and lays hold of that as in the other Articles That it was not proved but declined My Lords when he shall hear the repetition of the Evidence though part of the Article was not particularly insisted upon yet I believe it will appear to your Lordships and the world that he was the occasion of breaking the last Parliament and it is expresly proved by Witnesses enough and though he sayes How should any body think him an occasion of it that did so often advise Parliaments yet I shall shew anon that when he did advise them it was to compass his own Design and Plot without which his ends could not be brought to pass He came from the four and twentieth Article to the Seven and twentieth and he answers â—â—â—iâ—st that Article That when Armies are in the Field men cannot walk so peaceably as an Attorney with his Box and Papers in Westminster Hall I know â—ot wâ—at he means but when two Armies are in the Field they may raise War against the King's People as well as the King for his just defence it is the way to make his people terrified with Armies and to avoid them as a Serpent and therefore it is a dangerous aspersion as I conceive With these he concluded except some things that he took by way of artificial insinuation to perswade your Lordships That it was dangerous to raise a Treason that had lain asleep I know not how many hundred years and create a Treason A strange thing indeed it is That a man shall be charged with a Treason for subverting the Law A strange thing that one should be charged with Treason for killing a Justice sitting in the Seat of Justice and yet it should be no Treason to destroy King and Kingdom and People and all all which are destroyed if the Law be subverted And now having touched upon what he hath spoken with your Lordships good favour I shall crave leave to run the course I have propounded with my self and that very briefly that is upon the whole matter to shew how far the Evidence produced on the Commons part doth prove the Charge My Lords That laid to his Charge is a design and purpose to subvert the fundamental Laws of two Kingdoms and to introduce an Arbitrary and Tyrannical Government not that he did effect it but that he did intend it for if he had done it it had been too late to question it he had left no rule whereby to call him to Tryal but his intention and his endeavour are his Charge My Lords How far this is proved if your Lordships be pleased to call to mind the Articles and the Evidences produced on the Commons part your Lordships will find I believe that his Words his Counsels and his Actions do sufficiently prove his endeavouring to destroy In the first Article where my Lord of Strafford hath the first opportunity offered him to put this endeavour in execution that is the first place of eminency amongst his other Places and Commands which I take it was his being made President of the North he is no sooner there but there be instructions procured to enable him to proceed in that Court almost in all
the Evidence with me concerning the Army of Ireland nor yet that all the rest of the Junto upon their Oaths remember nothing of it But this Sir which I shall tell you is that which works with me under favour to an utter overthrow of his Evidence as unto that of the Army of Ireland before whilst I was a Prosecutor and under tye of Secrecy I might not discover any weakness of the Cause which now as a Judge I must Mr. Secretary was examined thrice upon Oath at the preparatory Committee The first time he was questioned to all the Iterrogatories and to that part of the Seventh which concerns the Army of Ireland He said positively in these words I cannot Charge him with that But for the rest he desires time to recollect himself which was granted him Some days after he was Examined a second time and then deposes these words concerning the King's being Absolved from Rules of Government and so forth very clearly But being prest to that part concerning the Irish Army He said again I can say nothing to that Here we thought we had done with him till divers weeks after my Lord of Northumberland and all others of the Junto denying to have heard any thing concerning those words Of reducing England by the Irish Army It was thought fit to Examine the Secretary once more and then he deposes these words to have been said by the Earl of Strafford to His Majesty You have an Army in Ireland which you may employ here to reduce or some word to that sence this Kingdom Mr. Speaker these are the Circumstances which I confess with my Conscience thrust quite out of doors that Grand Article of our Charge concerning his desperate Advice to the King of employing the Irish Army here Let not this I beseech you be driven to an Aspersion upon Mr. Secretary as if he should have Sworn otherwise than he knew or believed he is too worthy to do that only let thus much be inferred from it that he who twice upon Oath with time of Recollection could not remember any thing of such a business might well a third time mis-remember somewhat in this business the difference of one Letter here fer there or that for this quite alters the Case the latter also being more probable since it is confest of all hands that the Debate then was concerning a War with Scotland and you may remember that at the Bar he once said To employ there And thus Mr. Speaker I have faithfully given you an account what it is that hath blunted the edge of the Hatchet or Bill with me towards my Lord of Strafford This was that whereupon I Accused him with a free heart Prosecuted him with earnestness and had it to my understanding been proved should have condemned him with Innocence Whereas now I cannot satisfie my Conscience to do it I profess I can have no notion of any bodies intent to subvert the Laws Treasonably or by force and this design of Force not appearing all his other wicked practises cannot amount so high with me I can find a more easie and more natural Spring from whence to derive all his other Crimes than from an intent to bring in Tyranny and to make his own Posterity as well as Vs Slaves as from Revenge from Pride from Avarice from Passion and Insolence of Nature But had this of the Irish Army been proved it would have diffused a Complexion of Treason over all it would have been a Withe indeed to bind all those other scattered and lesser branches as it were into a Faggot of Treason I do not say but the rest may represent him a man as worthy to dye but perhaps worthier than many a Traytor I do not say but they may justly direct Vs to Enact That they shall be Treason for the future But God keep me from giving Judgment of Death on any man and of Ruine to his innocent Posterity upon a Law made a Posteriori Let the Mark be set on the door where the Plague is and then let him that wilenter dye I know Mr. Speaker there is in Parliament a double Power of Life and Death by Bill a Judicial Power and a Legislative the measure of the one is what 's legally just of the other what is Prudentially and Politickly fit for the good and preservation of the whole But these two under favour are not to be confounded in Judgment We must not piece up want of legality with matter of convenience not the defailance of prudential fitness with a pretence of legal Justice To Condemn my Lord of Strafford Judicially as for Treason my Conscience is not assured that the matter will bear it And I do it by the Legislative Power my reason consultively cannot agree to that since I am perswaded neither the Lords nor the King will pass the Bill and consequently that Our passing it will be a Cause of great divisions and Combustions in the State And therefore my humble advice is That laying aside this Bill of Attainder We may think of another saving only Life such as may secure the State from my Lord of Strafford without endangering it as much by Division concerning his Punishment as he hath endangered it by his practices If this may not be hearkened unto Let me conclude in saying that unto you all which I have throughly inculcated to mine own Conscience upon this occasion Let every man lay his hand upon his Heart and sadly consider what We are going to do with a Breath either Justice or Murther Justice on the one side or Murther heightned and aggravated to its supreamest extent For as the Casuists say That he who lies with his Sister commits Incest but he that marries his Sister sins higher by applying God's Ordinance to his Crime So doubtless he that commits Murther with the Sword of Justice heightens that Crime to the utmost The danger being so great and the Case so doubtful that I see the best Lawyers in diametral opposition concerning it Let every man wipe his Heart as he does his Eyes when he would Judge of a nice and subtile Object The Eye if it be pretincted with any colour is vitiated in its discerning Let us take heed of a blood-shotten Eye in Judgment Let every man purge his Heart clear of all passions I know this great and wise Body-politick can have none but I speak to individuals from the weakness which I find in my self away with personal Animosiites away with all flatteries to the people in being the sharper against him because he is odious to them away with all fears lest by the sparing his blood they may be incens'd away with all such Considerations as that it is not fit for a Parliament that one Accused by it of Treason should escape with Life Let not former Vehemence of any against him nor fear from thence that he cannot be safe while that man lives be an ingredient in the Sentence of any one of Vs Of all these
Protestation I hope Gentlemen you do think that neither the fear of Loss nor love of Reputation will suffer me to belye God and mine own Conscience at this time I am now in the very door going out and my next step must be from time to Eternity either of Peace or Pain To clear my self before you all I do here solemnly call God to witness I am not Guilty so far as I can understand of the great Crime laid to my Charge nor have ever had the least inclination or Intention to damnifie or prejudice the King the State the Laws or the Religion of this Kingdom but with my best endeavours to serve all and to support all So may God be merciful to my Soul Then rising up he said He desired to speak something to the People but was affraid he should be heard by few in regard of the Noise but having first fitted himself to the Block and rising again he thus addressed himself to the Spectators MY Lord Primate of Ireland and my Lords The Earl of Strafford's Speech upon the Scaffold May 12. and the rest of these Noble Gentlemen It is a great Comfort to me to have your Lordships by me this day because I have been known to you a long time and I now desire to be heard a few words I come here my Lords to pay my last Debt to Sin which is Death And through the Mercies of God to rise again to Eternal Glory My Lords If I may use a few words I shall take it as a great Courtesie from you I come here to submit to the Judgment that is passed against me I do it with a very quiet and contented Mind I do freely forgive all the World a forgiveness not from the Teeth outward as they say but from my heart I speak in the presence of Almighty God before whom I stand that there is not a displeasing thought that ariseth in me against any Man I thank God I say truly my Conscience bears me Witness that in all the Honour I had to serve His Majesty I had not any Intention in my heart but what did aim at the Joynt and Individual prosperity of the King and His People although it be my ill hap to be misconstrued I am not the first Man that hath suffered in this kind It is a Common Portion that befals men in this Life Righteous Judgment shall be hereafter here we are subject to Error and Misjudging one another One thing I desire to be heard in and do hope that for Christian Charities sake I shall be believed I was so far from being against Parliaments that I did always think Parliaments in England to be the happy Constitution of the Kingdom and Nation and the best means under God to make the King and his People happy As for my death I do here acquit all the World and beseech God to forgive them In particular I am very glad His Majesty conceives me not meriting so severe and heavy a punishment as the utmost Execution of this Sentence I do infinitely rejoyce in it and in that Mercy of His and do beseech God to Return Him the same that he may find Mercy when he hath most need of it I wish this Kingdom all prosperity and happiness in the World I did it Living and now Dying it is my Wish I profess heartily my apprehension and do humbly recommend it to you and wish that every Man would lay his hand on his heart and consider seriously Whether the beginning of the Peoples happiness should be written in Letters of Blood I fear they are in a Wrong Way I desire Almighty God that no one drop of my Blood rise up in Judgment against them I have but one word more and that is for my Religion My Lord of Armagh I do profess my self seriously faithfully and truly to be an obedient Son of the Church of England In that Church I was born and bred in that Religion I have lived and now in that I dye Prosperity and Happiness be ever to it It hath been said I was inclined to Popery if it be an Objection worth the answering let me say truly from my heart That since I was Twenty one years of age unto this day going on 49 years I never had thought or doubt of the truth of this Religion nor had ever any the boldness to suggest to me the contrary to my best remembrance And so being reconciled to the Mercies of Jesus Christ my Saviour into whose bosom I hope shortly to be gathered to enjoy Eternal Happiness which shall never have an end I desire heartily to be forgiven of every Man if any rash or unadvised Words or Deeds have passed from me and desire all your Prayers and so my Lord Farewel and farewel all things in this World The Lord strengthen my Faith and give me Confidence and Assurance in the Merits of Christ Jesus I trust in God we shall all meet to live Eternally in Heaven and receive the accomplishment of all Happiness where every Tear shall be wiped from our Eyes and sad thoughts from our Hearts and so God bless this Kingdom and Jesus have Mercy on my Soul Then turning himself about he saluted all the Noblemen and took a solemn leave of all considerable persons on the Scaffold giving them his Hand And after that he said Gentlemen I would say my Prayers and I intreat you all to pray with me and for me Then his Chaplain laid the Book of Common-Prayer upon the Chair before him as he kneeled down on which he prayed almost a quarter of an hour then he prayed as long or longer without a Book and ended with the Lords Prayer then standing up he spyed his Brother Sir George Wentworth and call'd him to him and said Brother We must part remember me to my Sister and to my Wife and carry my Blessing to my Eldest Son and charge him from me That he fear God and continue an Obedient Son of the Church of England and that he approve himself a Faithful Subject to the King and tell him That he should not have any private Grudge or Revenge towards any concerning Me and bid him beware to meddle not with Church Livings for that will prove a Moth and Canker to him in his Estate and wish him to content himself to be a Servant to his Countrey as a Justice of Peace in his County not aiming at higher Preferments Carry my Blessing also to my Daughter Ann and Arrabella charge them to fear and serve God and he will bless them not forgetting my little Infant that knows neither good nor evil and cannot speak for it self God speak for it and bless it Then said he I have nigh done One stroke will make my Wife Husbandless my dear Children Fatherless and my poor Servants Masterless and seperate me from my dear Brother and all my Friends but let God be to you and them all in all After that going to take off his Doublet and to make
Lordships Yesterday morning finding a Multitude in the Palace-Yard did make an Order and declared it to Ten of the principal Persons of them in the open House of Parliament That the House of Commons being the Representative Body of the Commons of this Kingdom who had brought in the Bill against the Earl of Strafford their Lordships thought fit to let them know that their Lordships are going on to the final Conclusion of the great business concerning the Earl but are so compassed with Multitudes that their Lordships may be conceived not to be free unless these Companies of People be sent home whose flocking hither doth only hinder their Lordships from going on to conclude that great business And therefore their Lordships desire them to consider with their Lordships how this business of such Importance may be first expedited and not interrupted by the concourse of such numbers of People the business having no other hindrance but their Concourse about both Houses in this manner But the Commons had occasion for the Tumults and they were not to be discouraged and therefore instead of an Answer they at another Conference present them with the Protestation of which before Tuesday May the 4th Amidst all these concerns of greater Moment the Faction was still at leizure not only to affright their Enemies but to encourage their Friends For on the one side on Tuesday the 4th of May these Votes Passed in favour of John Lilburn the great and avowed Enemy of Episcopacy for which he had been Sentenced in the Star-Chamber and upon Mr. Rouse's reporting of his Case to the House Resolved c. Votes in favour of John Lilburn That the Sentence in the Star-Chamber given against John Lilburn is illegal and against the Liberty of the Subject and also bloody wicked cruel barbarous and tyrannical Resolved c. That Reparation ought to be given to Mr. John Lilburn for his Imprisonment suffering and loss susteined by that illegal Sentence And on the other side that they might bring the Bishops under the Popular Odium Mr. William Thomas in a long and studied Speech which was afterwards Printed and Published endeavoured to blacken the whole Order to that Degree that they might not appear fit to continue Members of Parliament or indeed fit to live for having got a tast of the Blood of Strafford they were now meditating how to make the Ax tast of the Blood of the Archbishop of Canterbury whom the Presbyterians and other Sectaries esteemed one of their greatest Enemies The Speech as I find it Printed is as follows I Have formerly spoken of the present Church Government Mr. William Thomas his Speech against Bishops May the 4th 1641. by Archbishops Bishops c. Declaring the corruption and unsoundness thereof and how far degenerate if not contrary to the pure Primitive Apostolical Institution also I have touched a little of the other parts as how unlawful it was for them to intermeddle in Temporal Affairs to use Civil Power or to Sit as Judges in any Court much less in the Court of Parliament where they pass Censure and Judgment not only of our Lives and Liberties but on the Estates and Inheritance and Blood as of us so of our posterity And as this is unlawful by the Divine Law so by the Canons of the Church yea of this Church and Acts of Parliament of this Realm whereof I shall further enlarge my self in my ensuing discourse so hath their Sitting there been prejudicial and obnoxious to Kings and Subjects Now I desire briefly to declare when and how the Bishops came to be Members in the Parliaments in the House of the Lords and by what means they continued their Sitting there because prescription is much insisted upon Although long usage as King James truly delivereth confirmeth no Right if unlawful originally or at convenient times interrupted And whereas it hath been demanded why the first of our Reasons viz. That it hindereth Ecclesiastical Vocation was not urged 600 years ago I answer there was then no cause for the first beginning of Parliaments was not 74 years after But if this had been delivered of the lawfulness and conveniency of their intermedling in Temporal Affairs I should have replyed that it hath been declared not only 600 but 1600 years ago and in each Century since But supposing and granting that it was meant of such Parliaments as were before the Conquest you shall find that above Six Hundred years ago the Prelates are charged by their intermedling in secular Affairs to neglect the Office of Episcopal Function For this we read Hollingshead the Clergy were altogether unlearned wanton and vitious for the Prelates altogether neglected the Office of Episcopal Function which was to tender the Affairs of the Church and to feed the Flock of Christ lived themselves Idle and Covetous addicted wholly to the Pomp of the World and voluptuous Life little caring for the Churches and Souls committed to their charge And if any saith Higden told them that their lives ought to be holy Rand. Higden Policron lib. 6. cap. 74. and their conversation without covetousness according to the sacred Prescript and virtuous example of their Elders they would scoffingly put them off with a Nunc aliud tempus alii pro tempore mores Thus saith he they plained the roughness of their doings with the smoothness of their Answers Briefly they were so loose and riotous saith Gervasius of Canterbury they fell so fast to commit wickedness Gervasius Dorobernensis as to be ignorant of sinful Crimes was then held to be a great Crime it self And the Clergy saith Malmesbury contenting themselves with trivial Literature William Malmsbury could scarcely hack and hew out the words of the Sacrament Robert was then Archbishop of Canterbury who instigated King Edward the Confessor against his Mother Queen Emma charging her with incontinency with Alwyn Bishop of Winchester observe how one Locust stings another William Malmsbury which she washt away and cleared her self of by a sharp Tryal of Fire Candentis Ferri being put according to the Law Ordalium to clear her self by passing Nine Plough-shares glowing red hot bare-footed and blind-folded which she did without hurt And as this Bishop had charged the Queen his Mother with incontinence so did he likewise the Queen his Wife Edith or Egith with Adultery but no less untruly and unjustly then malitiously and enviously as saith Malmesbury she being a Lady incomparable as for Beauty so for Virtue in whose Breast there was a School of all Liberal Sciences And the like testifies Ingulphus that had often Conference with her that as she was Beautiful and excellent well Learned so in her demeanor and whole course of Life a Virgin most Chast humble and unfeignedly holy mild modest faithful and innocent not ever hurtful to any And do we not read that about the Year 1040 that Bishop Alfred had his Hand deep in the Murder of Prince Alfred who having his Eyes
forbear doing to be Great to be Rich had he Children or Kindred or had none This highly unjust Judge by continuing sins maintained his Actions to preserve himself he knows to be found guilty in one of his offences the penalty of the Law for it therefore covers the offences committed with inventing and acting other For a Judge to be Unjust more hurts the Publique than any other he is not suspected What a Judge doth is looked on as a thing that ought to be done The most pernicious Great Man that by cunning hath got to himself the Heart and Tongue of his Prince his ill acts have dyed with him if not taken up by others and then they walk in darkness No man will justifie what he doth by saying Such a Favorite did it but the Unjust Judgments of this Judge were given in the Noon-day were done in the face of the whole Kingdom in the hearing of such as might carry the News to all Parts of the Realm and was therefore done His Unjust Judgments were our Records We have seen Wicked Great Men most Craftily Politique they hated our Laws yet not meeting with Active Judges moulded to their purposes they and their acts have dyed the Realm flourished but of late others less Politick meeting with most Unjust Judges every way as ill as they could wish them to be then did the Kingdom faint under the Load of its Misery did long struggle now it 's rising I assure my self your Lordships will assist to take off the Burden If the Designs of some would not have such a man to be at liberty a Warrant from some Lords of the Council would soon have laid him in Prison and given no cause had he moved this Judge to be Discharged or Bailed he could have obtained neither if their wayes would not have endured that man to live a Judge reviling the Prisoner and his Councel that moved for his Discharge or Bail joyned with the hate of some Great Man might soon have moved a Gaoler for unwholsome Rooms and Lodging and ill Dyet for his Prisoner and they may soon take Life away month July 1641. Offenders in Prisons are looked after to be safe only such are brought in by Power against Law are abused Had a great Man desired the Estates of others the breach of a Proclamation might readily have been charged against them in the Star-Chamber but they it may be could have answered and cleared themselves and proved their Answers by Testimonies had they been referred to this Judge he would have expunged the one suppressed the other Then followed Fines to the value of their Estates or more then Imprisonments of course till they paid such Fines your Lordships have heard what this Judge did to the Sope-boylers The Country-man followed the Plough and his thinking he was assured of his Right of Property and Liberty gave him ability to do it He believed his Neighbour his Landlord his King could not take his Goods from him without his consent He knew the usual payments by Law and in Extraordinary Causes thought to have that Care to choose such for his Knights of his Shire or for his Burgesses as might be mindful of the cause of payment and of his Estate This man hath heard the Opinions and Judgment of this Judge hath seen his Goods taken from him without his or his Knights of the Shire or Burgesses consent or advise These have made him his Wife and Children to joyn in tears to wish they had never been born they have made them think on many wayes to keep safe that Estate which was yet left them have made them desire to sell all their Goods and hide the Money but then he remembers this Judge how that he shall be carried to Prison and remain there if he pay not what please others to assess him Then they think idle persons the drones and moths of the Common-wealth to be a wise people who to be unworthy to live they formerly conceited They expect and can think of nothing but to be Beggars Where publick and enormous Offences have been committed eminent and notorious punishments must be such will make your Lordships Proceedings highly esteemed else there will be so many offenders as none without danger can be punished This Judge Subverting our Laws took away the Hearts of many he subscribed for the Kings Power but so as he put him on taking his Subjects Goods and of all other such ways be most dangerous For we know his Majesty is not the last that suffers and is not the King worth many Thousands The place of this Judge was to have given and preserved to the King the Hearts of his Subjects the due execution of the Laws had done this and when such notice is taken of a Prince none will conspire against him who cannot fain to themselves Safety before or after any fact committed Forraign Enemies will not Invade his Kingdoms Thus hath his Majesty now got our Hearts and will for ever have them This Judge is to answer for what his Majesty and for what we have suffered I am Commanded by the House of Commons to desire of your Lordships That the Proceedings against Sir Robert Berkley Knight one of the Justices of his Majesties Court of Kings-Bench may be in as speedy a way of Trial as the Course of Parliament will allow The Articles were as follow The Atticles of Impeachment of Sir Robert Berkley Knight one of the Justices of the Court of the Kings-Bench by the Commons in this present Parliament Assembled in their Own Name and in the Name of all the Commons of England in Maintenance of their Accusation whereby he standeth Charged with High Treason and other great Misdemeanors INprimis That the said Sir Robert Berkley Articles of Impeachment against Sir Robert Berkley c. July 6. 1641. then being One of the Justices of the said Court of Kings-Bench hath Trayterously and Wickedly endeavoured to Subvert the Fundamental Laws and Established Government of the Realm of England and instead thereof to introduce an Arbitrary and Tyrannical Government against Law which he hath declared by Trayterous and Wicked Words Opinions Judgments Practices and Actions appearing in the several Articles Ensuing 2. Whereas by the Statute made in the 25th Year of the Reign of King Henry the 8th Prices of Victuals are appointed to be rated in such manner as in the said Statute is declared But it is manifest by the said Statute Corn is none of the Victuals thereby intended Nevertheless some ill-affected persons endeavouring to bring a Charge upon the Subjects contrary to Law did surmise that the Prices of Corn might be rated and set according to the Direction of that Statute and thereupon great Gain might be raised to his Majesty by Licences and Dispensations for selling Corn at other Prices And a Command from his Majesty being procured to the Judges and sent to them by William Noy Esquire his Majesties then Attorney-General to deliver their Opinions touching
aforesaid did on the deliver his Opinion in the Exchequer Chamber against John Hampden Esquire in the Case of Ship-Money that he the said John Hampden upon the matter and substance of the Case was chargeable with the Money then in Question A Copy of which proceeding and judgment the Commons of this present Parliament have delivered to your Lordships 7. That he the said Sir Robert Berkley then being one of the Justices of the Court of Kings-Bench and one of the Justices of Assize for the County of York did at the Assizes held at York in Lent 1636. deliver his charge to the Grand-Jury that it was a lawful and inseparable Flower of the Crown for the King to command not only the Maritime Counties but also those that were In-land to find Ships for the defence of the Kingdom And then likewise falsely and maliciously affirmed that it was not his single judgment but the judgment of all his Brethren witnessed by their subscriptions And then also said that there was a rumour that some of his Brethren that had subscribed were of a contrary Judgment but it was a base and unworthy thing for any to give his Hand contrary to his Heart and then wished for his own part that his Hand might rot from his Arm that was guilty of any such Crime when as he knew that Master Justice Hutton and Master Justice Crook who had subscribed were of a contrary Opinion and was present when they were perswaded to subscribe and did subscribe for Conformity only because the major Number of the Judges had subscribed And he the said Sir Robert Berkley then also said that in some Cases the Judges were above an Act of Parliament which said false malicious Words were uttered as aforesaid with intent and purpose to countenance and maintain the said unjust Opinions and to terrifie His Majesties Subjects that should refuse to pay Ship-Money or seek any remedy by Law against the said unjust and illegal Taxation 8. That whereas Richard Chambers Merchant having commenced a Suite for Trespass and false imprisonment against Sir Edward Bromfield Knight for imprisoning him the said Chambers for refusing to pay Ship-Money in the time that the said Sir Edward Bromfield was Lord Mayor of the City of London in which Suite the said Sir Edward Bromfield did make a special Justification The said Sir Robert Berkley then being one of the Justices of the Court of Kings-Bench in Trinity Term last then sitting on the Bench in the said Court upon debate of the said Case between the said Chambers and Sir Edward Bromfield said openly in the Court that there was a Rule of Law and a Rule of Government And that many things which might not be done by the Rule of Law might be done by the Rule of Government And would not suffer the Point of Legality of Ship-Money to be argued by Chambers his Councel all which Opinions Declarations Words and Speeches contained in the Third Fourth Fifth Sixth Seventh and Eighth Articles are destructive to the Fundamental Laws of this Realm the Subjects right of Property and contrary to former Resolutions in Parliament and to the Petition of Right which Resolution in Parliament and Petition of Right were well known to him and Resolved and Enacted when he was the King's Serjeant at law and attendant in the Lords House of Parliament 9. That he the said Sir Robert Berkley then being one of the Judges of the Court of King's-Bench and being in Commission of the Peace and duly sworn to execute the Office of a Justice of Peace in the County of Hertford on or about the seventh of January 1638. at which time the General Sessions of the Peace for the said County were there holden The said Sir Robert Berkley then and there sitting on the Bench did revile and threaten the Grand-Jury returned to serve at the said Sessions for presenting the removal of the Communion Table in All-Saints Church in Hertford aforesaid out of the Place where it anciently and usually stood and setting it Alter-ways against the Laws of this Realm in that Case made and provided as an Innovation in Matters concerning the Church the said Grand-Jury having delivered to them in Charge at the said Sessions by Master Serjeant Atkins a Justice of the Peace of the said County of Hertford that by the Oath they had taken they were bound to present all Innovations concerning Church Matters And he the said Sir Robert Berkley compelled the Fore-Man of the Jury to tell him who gave him any such Information and thereby knowing it to be one Henry Brown one of the said Grand-Jury he asked the said Brown how he durst meddle with Church Matters who affirming that in the said Charge from Master Serjeant Atkins the said Jury was charged to do he the said Sir Robert Berkley told the said Brown he should therefore find Sureties for his good Behaviour and that he the said Sir Robert Berkley would set a great Fine on his Head to make him an Example to others and thereupon the said Brown offered sufficient Bail but he the said Sir Robert Berkley being incensed against him refused the said Bail and committed the said Brown to Prison where he lay in Irons till the next Morning and used to the said Brown and the rest of the Jurors many other reviling and terrifying Speeches And said he knew no Law for the said Presentment and told the said Brown that he had sinned in the said Presentment And he compelled the said Grand-Jurors to say they were sorry for that they had done in that Presentment and did bid them to trample the said Presentment under their Feet and caused Brown to tear the said Presentment in his sight And he the said Sir Robert Berkley when as John Houland and Ralph Pemberton late Mayor of Saint Albons came to desire his Opinion on several Indictments against John Brown Parson of Saint Albons and Anthony Smith Vicar of Saint Peters in Saint Albons at the Quarter Sessions held at the said Town of Saint Albons on the four and twentieth of June 1639. for the removal of the Communion Table out of the usual Place and not Administring the Sacrament according to Law in that Case provided He the said Sir Robert Berkley then told them that such an Indictment was before him at Hertford and that he quashed the same and imprisoned the Promoters by which threatning and reviling Speeches unjust Actions and Declarations he so terrified the Jurors in those Parts that they durst not present any Innovations in the Church Matters to their great Grief and Trouble of their Consciences And whereas several Indictments were preferred against Matthew Brook Parson of Yarmouth by John Ingram and John Carter for refusing several times to Administer the Sacrament of the Lords-Supper to them without any lawful Cause at the Assizes held at Norwich in 1633. He the said Sir Robert Berkley then being one of the Judges of the Assize proceeded then to the Tryal on the said
his Opinion and Judgment upon the said Information for the King and against the said Samuel Vassall and by several Orders for that purpose did continue the possession of the said Goods in the King and the said Samuel Vassall could never obtain any restitution at all of the said Currants 4. Whereas it was commanded to the Sheriff of the County of York by Writ under the Seal of His Majesties Court of Exchequer Dated the sixteenth Day of May in the seventh year of His Majesties Reign that now is That he should distrain James Maleverer Esquire to appear before the Barons of His Majesties said Court of Exchequer in the Octaves of the Holy Trinity then next following to make fine to the King for his Trespass and Contempt in not coming to the presence of the King before the 31. Day of January in the first year of His said Majesties Reign to take upon him the Order of Knighthood according to the Form of a Proclamation in that behalf formerly made at which day of the said Octaves of the Holy Trinity the said James Maleverer did appear and Pleaded to the said Writ that although His said Majesty the said 31. Day of January and for three days next before the said 31. Day of January was resident and remaining at His Palace at White-Hall in the County of Middlesex and that the said James Maleverer the said 31. Day of January and three days next before the said one and thirtieth Day of January was resident and remaining at Ancliffe in the said County of York which is distant from the said Palace of White-Hall the space of one hundred and four-score Miles and that the said James Maleverer the said one and thirtieth Day of January aforesaid or at any time before had no Lands or Rents in his own hands or in the hands of Feoffees to his uses out of the said County of York and that that part of the said County of York which is nearest to the said Palace of White-Hall the space of one hundred and thirty Miles and that no Proclamation by vertue of any Writ or Proclamation for the appearance of any Persons whatsoever to take the said Order of Knighthood was made in any part of the said County of York before the thirtieth Day of January in the said first year of His Majesties Reign by reason whereof the said James Maleverer could not personally come to the presence of His said Majesty to take the said Order of Knighthood before the said one and thirtieth Day of January in the said first year of His said Majesties Reign yet the said James Maleverer for his Fine in the Premisses did humbly submit himself to the said Court and demanded to be discharged of the said Issues returned and imposed upon him by reason of the Premisses yet notwithstanding the said Plea and Submission of the said James Maleverer and after the same was made as aforesaid and entred upon Record in His Majesties said Court of Exchequer and the said Court moved for stay of the Process and discharge of the Issues the said Sir Thomas Trevor being then one of the Barons of the said Court of Exchequer contrary to his Oath and contrary to the Laws of this Realm and to the great Impoverishing the of said James Maleverer did together with the rest of the then Barons of the said Court refuse to Impose any Fine whatsoever upon the said James Malverer and told him that the said Court had no Power to Fine him and that the must Compound with certain Commissioners for that purpose appointed And did farther order and direct several other Writs of Distringas to Issue forth of His Majestie 's said Court of Exchequer under the Seal of the said Court directed to the several High Sheriffs of the said County of York whereby the said Sheriffs were commanded further to distrain the said James Maleverer to appear as aforesaid upon which said Writs of Distringas several great and excessive Issues were returned upon the Lands of the said James Maleverer amounting to the Summ of two thousand Pounds or thereabouts a great part whereof the said James Maleverer was enforced to pay and in like manner the said Sir Thomas Trevor together with the rest of the then Barons of the said Court of Exchequer did order and direct such and the like unjust and undue proceedings and the said proceedings were had and made accordingly against Thomas Moyser Esquire and against several other Persons His Majesties Subjects in several parts of this Realm to the utter undoing of many of them 5. That he the said Sir Thomas Trevor about the Month of November Anno Domini 1635. then being one of the Barons of His Majesties Court of Exchequer and having taken an Oath for the due Administration of Justice to His Majesties Liege People according to the Laws and Statutes of this Realm subscribed his Name to an Opinion in haec verba I am of Opinion c. ut suprà in Baron Davenport's Charge 6. That in or about the Month of February Anno Dom. 1636. the said Sir Thomas Trevor being then one of the Barons of the said Court of Exchequer subscribed an Extrajudicial Opinion in answer to Questions in a Letter from his Majesty in haec verba Charles R. When the Good and Safety of the Kingdom in general is Concerned c. ut suprà Subscribed ut priùs 7. That the said Sir Thomas Trevor being then one of the Barons of his Majesties Court of Exchequer did deliver his Opinion and Judgment in the Exchequer-Chamber against John Hampden Esq in the Case of Ship-Money That he the said John Hampden upon the matter and substance of the Case was chargeable with the Money then in question a Copy of which Proceedings and Judgment the Commons in this present Parliament have already delivered to your Lordships 8. That whereas in the Month of April 16 Caroli the Officers of the Custome-House having seised a Ship of one Samuel Warners laden with Tobacco being the Goods of the said Warner the Bulk of the said Ship not being broken and no Information exhibited for the King according to the course of the Exchequer for any Duty the Barons were moved that the said Ship might be restored to the Proprietor giving Security to pay such Duties as did belong to the King But upon the Allegation of the King's Attorney that there needed no Information because there was no Penalty the said Sir Thomas Trevor being then one of the Barons of His Majesties Court of Exchequer together with the rest of the then Barons of the said Court did contrary to his Oath and contrary to the Laws of this Realm deny the restitution of the said Ship unless all the Duties demanded by the Farmers of the Custom-House were first paid Hereupon the said Warner brought an Action of Trover upon the Case in the Office of Pleas in the Exchequer against the said Officers that seized his Ship and Goods whereupon the King's Attorney
Conference about it The House of Lords was turned into a Committee to debate the 4th Head brought from the House of Commons concerning the Queens Majesty and the first Branch was agreed to The further Debate of the 10 Propositions by the Lords To the Second Article It was agreed to Joyn with the House of Commons to move the King That he will be pleased not to give his Consent to the same hereafter it being against the Laws of this Kingdome To the Third concerning the Colledg of Capuchins at Denmark-House agreed The 4th not now Resolved There was a Debate in the Commons House Thursday July 8. concerning the Forreign Ambassadors entertaining and sheltering Romish Priests and Jesuits Natives of his Majesties Dominions upon which it came to this Vote Resolved c. That this House doth declare That no Forreign Ambassador whatsoever ought to shelter or harbour any Popish Priest or Jesuit Vote against Forreign Ambassadors Entertaining Romish Priests Natives of the Kings Dominions that are Natives of the Kings Dominions under pretence of being their Servants or otherwise And the Committee for the 10 Propositions to his Majesty about his Journey are to present this Declaration to the Lords Committee appointed to meet them and to desire their Lordships to Joyn with this House to Petition his Majesty that this may accordingly be observed The Cessation was Voted to continue 14 dayes longer from Munday next Cessation prolonged The House then reassumed the Debate about Mr. Hollis and others Imprisoned and Fined 3 Car. and came to these Votes Further Votes about Mr. Hollis c. 3 Car. Resolved c. That Sir George Crook one of the Justices of the Kings Bench is not Guilty of the delay in granting the Habeas Corpus to Mr. Hollis c. Resolved c. That the continuance of Mr. Hollis c. 3 Car. in Prison by the then Judges of the Kings Bench for not putting in Sureties for the Good Behaviour was without Just or Legal Cause Resolved c. That the Exhibiting the Information against Mr Hollis Sir John Eliot and Mr. Valentine in the Kings Bench being Members of Parliament and for matters done in Parliament was a breach of Priviledge of Parliament Resolved c. That the Judgment given upon Nihil dicit against Mr. Hollis Sir John Eliot and Mr. Valentine and the Fines thereupon Imposed and their several Imprisonments thereupon was against the Law and the Priviledg of Parliament Resolved c. That the several proceedings against Mr. Hollis Sir John Eliot and Mr. Valentine by committing them and Prosecuting them in the Star-Chamber and the Kings Bench is a Grievance Resolved c. That Mr. Hollis Mr. Strode Mr. Valentine Mr. Long and the Heirs and Executors of Sir John Eliot Sir Miles Hobart and Mr. Peter Heyman respectively ought to have reparation for their respective Damages and Sufferings against the Lords and others of the Council by whose means they were apprehended and committed against the Council that put their Hands to the Information in the Star-Chamber and the Judges of the Kings Bench. Resolved c. That Mr. Laurence Whittacre being a Member of the Parliament 3 Car. and entring into the Chamber of Sir John Eliot being likewise a Member of that Parliament searching of his Trunk and Papers and Sealing of them is Guilty of the Breach of Priviledg of Parliament this being done before the dissolution of the Parliament Resolved c. That Mr. Laurence Whittacre being guilty of the Breach of the Priviledg of Parliament as aforesaid shall be sent forthwith to the Tower there to remain a Prisoner during the Pleasure of the House Whereupon Mr. Whittacre being called down Mr. Lau. Whittacre sent to the Tower for Breach of Privilege 3 Car. and kneeling at the Bar Mr. Speaker pronounced this Sentence against him Mr. Whittacre then desired permission of the House to speak for himself which being granted he said That he did freely confess the matter of Fact and that he should not endeavour to extenuate it by the Confusion of the times but that he had only this to plead in mitigation of the Sentence that it was an Error committed so long ago being now 13 years since and that he was commanded to do what he did by Warrant from the King himself and three and Twenty Privy Councellors But all this availed him nothing for he was immediately sent to the Tower Now for the Readers satisfaction and that he may have a clear understanding of this affair it will I think not be unacceptable to present him with these following Papers relating to this affair There were several Questions proposed to the three Chief Judges to which they gave these Answers Quere I. There solutions of the Three Chief Judges about matters in the Parliament 3 Car. WHether a Parliament Man offending the King Criminally or Contemptuously in the Parliament House and not then punished may not be punished out of Parliament Answer We conceive That if a Parliament Man exceeding the Priviledge of Parliament do Criminally or Contemptuously offend the King in the Parliament House and not there punished may be punished out of Parliament Quere II. Whether the King as he hath the power of Calling and Dissolving a Parliament have not also an absolute power to cause it to be Adjourned at his pleasure Answer We conceive That the King hath the Power of Commanding of Adjournments of Parliaments as well as of Calling Prorogueing and Dissolving of Parliaments But for the manner thereof or the more particular Answer to this and the next subsequent Question we refer our selves to the Precedents of both Houses Quere III. Whether if the King do Command an Adjournment to be made he hath not also power to Command all further proceedings in Parliament to cease at that time Quere IV. Whether it be not a high Contempt in a Member of the House contrary to the King 's express Commandment Contemptuously to oppose the Adjournment Answer The King 's express Commandment being signified for an Adjournment if any after that shall Tumultuously oppose it further or otherwise then the Priviledge of the House will Warrant This we conceive to be a great Contempt Quere V. Whether if a few Parliament-Men do Conspire together to stir up ill Affections in the People against the King and the Government and to leave the Parliament with such a loose and by words or writings put it in Execution and this not punished in Parliament it be an offence punishable out of Parliament Answer We conceive this Offence to be punishable out of Parliament Quere VI. Whether if some Parliament-Men shall Conspire together to publish Papers containing false and scandalous Rumors against the Lords of the Privy Council or any one or more of them not to the end to Question them in a Legal or Parliamentary way but to bring them into Hatred of the People and the Government into Contempt and to make Discord between the Lords
Garrisons there and that a convenient Number of Men shall be sent from the North Parts of England for the better Guard and Defence of those Forts and Countries adjoyning and that a large proportion of Arms and other Munition shall be speedily conveyed out of his Majesties Stores to West-Chester to be disposed of according to the Direction of the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland for arming the Men to be sent from England and such other of his Majesties Loyal Subjects as may be raised in Ireland 5. And because we understand That the Rebels are like with great strength to attempt the ruin and destruction of the Brittish Plantation in Ulster we humbly Advise his Majesty by the Council and Authority of his Parliament in Scotland to provide that one Regiment consisting if 1000 men furnish't and accomplish't with all necessary Arms and Munition as shall seem best to their Great Wisdoms and Experience may with all possible speed be Transported into Ireland under the Command of some Worthy Person well affected to the Reformed Religion and the Peace of both Kingdoms and well Enabled with Skill Judgment and Reputation for such an Employment which Forces we desire may be Quartered in those Northern Parts for the Opposing the Rebels and Comfort and Assistance of his Majesties good Subjects there with Instructions from his Majesty and the Parliament of Scotland that they shall upon all Occasions pursue and observe the Directions of the Lord Lieutenant his Lieutenant General or the Governor of Ireland according to their Authority derived from his Majesty and the Crown of England 6. And as touching the Wages and other Charges needful which this Assistance will require We would have You in our Name to beseech His Majesty to commend it to our Brethren the Estates of the Parliament of Scotland to take it into their Care on the behalf of His Majesty and this Kingdom to make such agreements with all the Commanders and Soldiers to be imployed as they would do in the like Case for themselves and to let them know For Our parts We do wholly rely upon their Honorable and Friendly dealing with us and will take Care that Satisfaction be made accordingly 7. You shall represent to his most Excellent Majesty this our Humble and Faithful Declaration that we cannot without much grief remember the great Miseries Burthens and Distempers which have for divers Years afflicted all his Kingdoms and Dominions and brought them to the last point of Ruine and Destruction all which have issued from the Cunning False and Malicious Practices of some of those who have been admitted into very near Places of Council and Authority about him who have been Favourers of Popery Superstition and Innovation Subverters of Religion Honor and Justice Factors for promoting the Designs of Forreign Princes and States to the great and apparent danger of His Royal Person Crown and Dignity and of all his People Authors of False Scandals and Jealousies betwixt his Majesty and his Loyal Subjects Enemies to the Peace Vnion and Confidence betwixt Him and his Parliament which is the surest Foundation of Prosperity and Greatness to his Majesty and of Comfort and Hope to them That by their Councils and Endeavours those great Sums which have been lately drawn from the People have been either consumed unprofitably or in the maintenance of such Designs as have been Mischievous and Destructive to the State and whilest we have been labouring to Support his Majesty to purge out the Corruptions and restore the Decayes both of Church and State others of their Faction and Party have been contriving by Violence and Force to suppress the Liberty of Parliament and indanger the Safety of those who have opposed such wicked and pernicious Courses 8. That we have just Cause to believe That those Conspiracies and Commotions in Ireland are but the Effects of the same Councils and if persons of such Aims and Conditions shall still continue in Credit Authority and Imployment the great Aids which we shall be inforced to draw from his People for subduing the Rebellion in Ireland will be applied to the Fomenting and Cherishing of it there and Encouraging some such like attempt by the Papists and ill-affected Subjects in England and in the End to the Subversion of Religion and destruction of his Loyal Subjects in both Kingdoms And do therefore most humbly beseech his Majesty to change those Councils from which such ill Courses have proceeded and which have Caused so many Miseries and Dangers to himself and all his Dominions and that he will be graciously pleased to imploy such Councils and Ministers as shall be approved of by his Parliament who are his greatest and most Faithful Council that so his People may with Courage and Confidence undergo the Charge and Hazard of this War and by their Bounty and Faithful Endeavours with Gods Blessing restore to his Majesty and this Kingdom that Honor Peace Safety and Prosperity which they have Enjoyed in former times And if herein his Majesty shall not vouchsafe to condescend to our humble Supplication although we shall always continue with Reverence and Faithfulness to his Person and to his Crown to perform those Duties of Service and Obedience to which by the Laws of God and this Kingdom we are Obliged Yet we shall be forced in discharge of the Trust which we ow to the State and to those whom we represent to Resolve upon some such way of defending Ireland from the Rebels as may concur to the Securing our selves from such Mischievous Councils and Designs as have lately been and still are in practice and agitation against us as we have just cause to believe and to commend those Aids and Contributions which this great Necessity shall require to the Custody and Disposing of such Persons of Honor and Fidelity as we have Cause to confide in The Faction as the Reader may before have observed had upon all Occasions indeavoured to lay hold upon the Soveraign Power of the Sword and indeed nothing less could Protect them from their own Fears of a future Reckoning which they were affraid they must make if ever the King's Affairs came into a prosperous Condition and setled Posture But certainly next to the Execrable Rebellion in Ireland it was one of the most barbarous Outrages to a most Excellent Prince whose Indulgence was his greatest Crime not only to charge him with the Fomenting and in a manner Contriving this most wicked Rebellion as is evident by these Venemous Reflections they intended to do but to take this advantage of the Misfortune of his Affairs to wrest from him that little remainder of Power and Regal Authority which he had not hitherto divested himself of But this was the Resolution of these Ingrateful and Ungenerous Subjects whose unbounded Ambition all the Streams of Royal Bounty were not able to satisfie so long as the King was the Fountain of them and they were determined to make use of his Majesties extreme Necessity as they had
so impudent as to tell his Majesty that we have done nothing for him As to the Second Branch of this slander we acknowledge with much thankfulness that his Majesty hath passed more good Bills to the advantage of the Subjects then have been in many ages but withal we cannot forget that these venemous Councils did manifest themselves in some endeavours to hinder these good Acts and for both Houses of Parliament we may with truth and modesty say thus much That we have ever been careful not to desire any thing that should weaken the Crown either in just profit or useful power The Triennial Parliament for the matter of it doth not extend to so much as by Law we ought to have required there being two Statutes still in force for a Parliament to be once a year and for the manner of it it is in the Kings Power that it shall never take effect if he by a timely Summons shall prevent any other way of assembling In the Bill for continuance of this present Parliament there seems to be some restraint of the Royal Power in dissolving of Parliaments not to take it out of the Crown but to suspend the execution of it for this time and occasion only which was so necessary for the Kings own security and the publick Peace that without it we could not have undertaken any of these great charges but must have left both the Armies to disorder and confusion and the whole Kingdom to Blood and Rapine The Star-Chamber was much more fruitful in Oppression then in profit the great Fines being for the most part given away and the rest stalled at long times The Fines of the High Commission were in themselves unjust and seldome or never came into the Kings Purse These four Bills are particularly and more specially instanced in the rest there will not be found so much as a shadow of prejudice to the Crown They have sought to diminish our reputation with the people and to bring them out of love with Parliaments the aspersions which they have attempted this way have been such as these that we have spent much time and done little especially in those Grievances which concern Religion That the Parliament is a burthen to the Kingdom by the abundance of Protections which hinder Justice and Trade and by many Subsidies granted much more heavy then any they formerly endured to which there is a ready Answer if the time spent in this Parliament be considered in relation backward to the long growth and deep root of those Grievances which we have removed to the powerful supports of those Delinquents which we have persued to the great necessities and other charges of the Commonwealth for which we have provided or if it be considered in relation forward to many advantages which not only the present but future Ages are like to reap by the good Laws and other Proceedings in this Parliament we doubt not but it will be thought by all indifferent judgments that our time hath been much better imployed then in a far greater proportion of time in many former Parliaments put together and the charges which have been laid upon the Subject and the other inconveniencies which they have born will seem very light in respect of the benefit they have had and may receive And for the matter of Protections the Parliament is so sensible of it that therein they intend to give them whatsoever ease may stand with Honour and Justice and are in a way of passing a Bill to give them satisfaction They have sought by many subtile practices to cause Jealousies and divisions betwixt us and our Brethren of Scotland by slandering their proceedings and intentions towards us and by secret endeavours to instigate and incense them and us one against another They have had such a Party of Bishops and Popish Lords in the House of Peers as hath caused much opposition and delay in the Prosecution of Delinquents and hindred the Proceedings of divers good Bills passed in the Commons House concerning the reformation of sundry great abuses and corruptions both in Church and State They have laboured to seduce and corrupt some of the Commons House to draw them into Conspiracies and Combinations against the Liberty of the Parliament And by their instruments and Agents they have attempted to disaffect and discontent his Majesties Army and to engage it for the maintenance of their wicked and Traiterous Designs the keeping up of Bishops in Votes and Functions and by force to compel the Parliament to order limit and dispose their proceedings in such manner as might best concur with the intentions of this dangerous and potent Faction And when one mischievous Design and Attempt of theirs to bring on the Army against the Parliament and the City of London had been discovered and prevented they presently undertook another of the same damnable Nature with this Addition to it to endeavour to make the Scottish Army neutral whil'st the English Army which they had laboured to corrupt and invenome against us by their false and slanderous suggestions should execute their Malice to the subversion of our Religion and the dissolution of our Government Thus they have been continually practising to disturb the Peace and Plotting the Destruction even of all the Kings Dominions and have employed their Emissaries and Agents in them all for the promoting of their Devilish Designs which the vigilancy of those who were well affected hath still discovered and defeated before they were ripe for Execution in England and Scotland only in Ireland which was farther off they have had time and opportunity to mould and prepare their work and had brought it to that perfection that they had possessed themselves of that whole Kingdom totally subverted the Government of it rooted out Religion and destroyed all the Protestants whom the conscience of their duty to God their King and Country would not have permitted to joyn with them if by Gods wonderful providence their main enterprize upon the City and Castle of Dublin had not been detected and prevented upon the very Eve before it should have been executed Notwithstanding they have in other parts of that Kingdom broken out into open Rebellion surprized Towns and Castles Committed Murders Rapes and other Villanies and shaken off all bonds of obedience to his Majesty and the Laws of the Realm and in general have kindled such a fire as nothing but God's Infinite Blessing upon the wisdom and endeavours of this State will be able to quench it and certainly had not God in his great Mercy unto this Land discovered and confounded their former Designs we had been the Prologue to this Tragedy in Ireland and had by this time been made the lamentable spectacle of Misery and Confusion And now what hope have we but in God when as the only means of our subsistence and Power of Reformation is under him in the Parliament but what can we the Commons without the conjunction of the House of Lords and what
Henry Vane Senior Knight Mr. Hollis Mr. Brown and Mr. Pym to draw up the same accordingly This Report being made and taken into Consideration the three Particulars concerning Privilege were Voted and it was 1 Resolved upon the Question Nemine contradicente Votes of the Lords and Commons concerning breach of Privilege by the King That the Privileges of Parliament were broken by his Majesties taking Notice of the Bill for suppressing of Soldiers being in Agitation in both Houses and not agreed on 2 Resolved upon the Question Nemine Contradicente That his Majesty in propounding a Limitation and Provisional Clause to be added to the Bill before it was presented unto him by the Consent of both Houses was a Breach of the Privilege of Parliament 3 Resolved upon the Question Nemine Contradicente That his Majesty expressing his Displeasure against some Persons for Matters moved in the Parliament during the Debate and preparation of that Bill was a Breach of the Privilege of Parliament The same Votes were also passed in the Commons House Then the Petition of the Lord Peirpoint was read as follows To the Most Honorable the Lords of the High Court of Parliament The Humble Petition of Henry Lord Pierpoint Humbly Sheweth THat whereas your Petitioner in heat of Debate L. Pierpoint's Petition let fall some unfitting Words which offended this Honorable House and drew upon him this Imprisonment Your Petitioner humbly confessing the Justice of his Restraint beseecheth your Lordships Pardon and pass over this his Offence and he shall ever acknowledge your Lordships favor herein H. Pierpoint Hereupon it was resolved upon the Question That the Lord Pierpoint shall be delivered out of his restraint this Night In the House of Commons besides the Debate concerning the Matter of Privilege of which before in the Conferences and Votes of the Lords House several Propositions from the Scottish Commissioners were read and upon the Question assented unto They were presented by Sir Philip Stapleton in five Papers in haec verba 1 As in our first Proposition Propositions from the Scots Commissioners for 10000 Men for Ireland we made offer of 10000 Men in the Name of the Kingdom of Scotland for a further Testimony of Our Zeal to his Majesties Service and Respect and Brotherly Affection to the Kingdom of England We declare That we will upon the Charges of the Kingdom of Scotland Levy and Transport those Men and not stand with our Brethren upon Conditions of Levy and Transport Mony which we very well know is usual in such Occasions and could not in reason have been denyed us and which will amount to a very considerable summ of Money 2 We desire that there may be 30000 l advanced to us of the Brotherly Assistance because there are great Arrears due to our Soldiers who will not willingly enter into a new Imployment unless they be satisfied with what is resting 3 We desire because we cannot unfurnish the Kingdom of Scotland of Arms Canon and Ammunition That what Proportion of any of these we send with our Army That so many and such a Proportion of each kind may be presently sent into Scotland to remain there till the return of what we take into Ireland which we shall give Assurance shall be restored we retaining so much of that which shall be sent into Scotland as shall be lost or spent of ours in the Service of Ireland 3 We desire That with all Expedition some Ships of War may be appointed to go to Lothyan Port Patrick or Ayr to Guard and Waft over our Soldiers whom we intend for Expedition to Transport in small Vessels and that these Ships shall attend at the Ports in Ireland where we land that they may be sent over again into Scotland to bring over to us any necessaries left behind and to go to and again betwixt those Coasts to keep the Passage free for Going and Returning 5 We desire That for every 1000 Foot we send into Ireland a 100 Horse be in readiness to joyn with them and that these be ordered to receive Instructions and Orders and in every thing to obey the Injunctions of our Commanders This Proposition was not fully Assented to but referred back to the Commissioners for the propounding a less proportion of Horse 6 By the Instructions sent by both Houses of your Parliament to your Commissioners in Scotland and which was sent by his Majesty from Berwick to the Council there they did beseech his Majesty to recommend to the Parliament of Scotland that they would take into Consideration the Matter of Wages and other Charges as they would have done for themselves We in this think we could not make particular Agreement with our Troops but desire you would let us know what entertainment you give to your own Commanders and Soldiers wherewith we shall be satisfied and acquiesce to any Order you shall take with them being willing to serve the Crown of England with the same Affection and upon the same Terms as if we were English Men born Sic Subscribitur A. Fullerton This Evening the House sate late and Candles were voted in House divided about Printing the Remonstrance and a very great Debate there was concerning the Remonstrance of the State of the Kingdom which was presented to his Majesty at Hampton-Court whether it should be Printed or not the House was at the last divided upon it with the Yeas were 135. with the No 83. Whereupon it was Ordered That the Remonstrance shall be forthwith Printed and Published Thus did these Men treat this excellent Prince with repeated Acts of Ingratitude for his transcendent Acts of Grace and were so far from being satisfied or contented that the King had given them so much that they advanced in Confidence to demand all And indeed were as the sequel will make it plainly appear resolved to demand still till the King must be necessitated either to deny then or divest himself of every thing but the shaddow of Imperial Majesty and Power that so they might have an Occasion to break with him and indeavour to wrest the Residue of Sovereignty which he had not parted with by plain force out of his Hands His Majesty now began to feel the effects of that unparalell'd Act 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 cap. 5. for perpetuating this Parliaments sitting during their own Pleasure and found in reality that by this Act of the highest Confidence by which he hoped as he saith in his excellent Book for ever to shut out and lock the Door upon all present Jealousies and future Mistakes some Men intended to shut him out of Doors himself and that the permitting them to go up to the Pinacles of the Temple of Prerogative gave them an irresistible Temptation to throw down his Majesty and the Monarchy from thence which fatal Act though in his own Words it was no Sin of his Will yet was an Error of too charitable a Judgment By the Printing and Publishing of this Remonstrance
by the King with the whole consent of his Parliament And in this I observe a twofold Subjection in the particular Members thereof dissenting from the General Votes of the whole Parliament And 2ly the whole state of the Kingdom to a full Parliament First I confess If any particular Member of a Parliament although his Judgment and Vote be contrary do not willingly submit to the rest he is an ill Subject to the King and Country Secondly To resist the Ordinance of the whole State of the Kingdom either by stirring up a dislike in the Hearts of his Majesties Subjects of the Proceedings of the Parliament to endeavour by levying of Arms to compel the King and Parliament to make such Laws as seem best to them to deny the Power Authority and Priviledges of Parliament to cast Aspersions upon the same and Proceedings thereby inducing the King to think ill of the same and to be incensed against the same to procure the untimely Dissolution and Breaking off of the Parliament before all things be settled by the same for the Safety and Tranquillity both of King and State is an apparent sign of a Trayterous and Disloyal Subject against his King and Country And thus having troubled your Patience in shewing the difference between true Protestants and false Loyal Subjects and Traytors in a State or Kingdom and the means how to discern them I humbly desire my Actions may be compared with either both as I am a Subject Protestant and Native in this Country and as I am a Member of this present and happy Parliament and as I shall be found guilty upon these Articles Exhibited against my self and the other Gentlemen either a bad or a good Subject to my Gracious Soveraign and Native Country to receive such Sentence upon the same as by this Honourable House shall be conceived to agree with Law and Justice It is prodigious to see with what Confidence some Persons durst appeal to God and Man and certainly ex ore tuo may most truly be applied to this unhappy Gentleman who by his future Actions upon his own declared Principles proved himself to be that ill and disloyal Subject whom he doth here take such Pains to delineate nor is it less remarkable that as he was one of the first who was in Actual Hostility against the King so contrary to his own avowed Declaration here so was he one of the first who fell in that unnatural Rebellion receiving his mortal Wound in a Skirmish near Chinner in Bucks upon the same Turf where he had assembled the County to frame those Petitions which first led the Nation into Sedition and afterwards into down right Rebellion from whence Posterity may learn what little Credit is to be given to the deepest Protestations of Loyalty and Asseverations of Innocence of such Persons whose Guilt has driven to dispair of any other Security from the Punishment of their ill Actions but what is to be hoped from doing Worse and that the Professions of Loyalty in such Cases are but purely to palliate and hide their Guilt from the view of the World and to avoid the horrid Imputation of Treason a Crime which because it is naturally destructive of humane Society is universally the hatred of Mankind Mr. Brown who was one of those sent to the Gentlemen of the Inns of Court Reports from the Gentlemen of Lincolns-Inn That they went to the Court first upon a general Report that his Majesties Person was in danger This Afternoon his Majesty came in Person to the House of Commons and having Seated himself in the Speaker's Chair he spake as followeth Gentlemen I Am sorry for this occasion of coming unto you The King's Speech in the House of Commons concerning the five Members Jan. 4 1641. Yesterday I sent a Serjeant at Arms upon a very important occasion to apprehend some that by My Command were Accused of High Treason whereunto I did expect Obedience and not a Message And I must declare unto you here That albeit no King that ever was in England shall be more careful of your Priviledges to maintain them to the utmost of His Power then I shall be yet you must know that in Cases of Treason no Person hath a Priviledge And therefore I am come to know if any of those Persons that were Accused are here For I must tell you Gentlemen That so long as those Persons that I have Accused for no slight Crime but for Treason are here I cannot expect that this House can be in the right way that I do heartily wish it Therefore I am come to tell you that I must have them wheresoever I find them Well since I see all the Birds are flown I do expect from you that you shall send them unto Me as soon as they return hither But I assure you in the Word of a King I never did intend any force but shall proceed against them in a Legal and fair way for I never meant any other And now since I see I cannot do what I came for I think this no unfit occasion to repeat what I have said formerly That whatsoever I have done in favour and to the good of My Subjects I do mean to maintain it I will trouble you no more but tell you I do expect as soon as they do come to the House you will send them to Me otherwise I must take My Own course to find them So soon as his Majesty was gone the Faction in the House was all in a flame and after the heats were a little over it was Resolved upon the Question That this House shall Adjourn it self till to morrow at One of the Clock There was not any one Action of which the Faction made greater advantage then this of his Majesties coming to the House in Person to demand the five Members the Faction blew the whole Nation into a blaze with their Out-cries upon it and it did not escape odd Interpretations even from those who professed themselves his Friends It is but just therefore that we should hear his Justification which I cannot give the Reader better then from his own Incomparable Pen. Which therefore take as follows MY going to the House of Commons to demand Justice upon the five Members 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 upon his Majesties going to the H. of Commons to demand the five Members was an Act which my Enemies loaded with all the Obloquies and Exasperations they could it filled indifferent Men with Jealousies and Fears yea and many of my Friends resented it as a Motion rising rather from Passion then Reason and not guided with such discretion as the touchiness of those times required But these Men knew not the just Motives and pregnant Grounds with which I thought my self so furnished that there needed nothing to such Evidence as I could have produced against those I charged save only a free and Legal Tryal which was all I desired Nor had I any Temptation of displeasure or revenge
Yea 170. Mr. Arthur Goodwinn Tellers for the Yea 170. Whereupon It was Resolved c. That a Committee shall be named by this House to fit at Guild-Hall and all that shall come to have Voices at this Committee That this Committee shall have Power to direct and appoint such Monies to be paid as shall be necessary for the Troops at Chester That the Committee for Munster shall have power to sit when they will and to put in Execution all such Propositions as are already agreed upon by both Houses of Parliament Then this following Paper drawn by the forementioned Committee was read and afterwards Voted A Paper concerning his Majesties coming to the House of Commons in vindication of Privileges their adjournment to Guill-Hall London Whereas his Majesty in his Royal Person Yesterday being the 4th of Jan. 1641. did come to the House of Commons with a great multitude of Men Armed in a War-like Manner with Halberds Swords and Pistols who came up to the very Door of this House and placed themselves there and in other Places and Passages near to the House to the great Terror and Disturbance of the Members then thereof sitting and according to their Duty in a peaceable and orderly Manner treating of the great Affairs of both Kingdoms of England and Ireland and his Majesty having placed himself in the Speaker's Chair did demand the Persons of divers Members of that House to be delivered unto him It is this Day declared by the House of Commons That the same is a high Breach of the Rights and Priviledges of Parliament and inconsistent with the Liberty and Freedom thereof And therefore the House doth conceive they cannot with Safety of their own Persons or the Indemnities of the Rights and Priviledges of Parliament sit here any longer without a full Vindication of so high a Breach of Priviledge and a sufficient Guard wherein they may confide for which both Houses joyntly and this House by it self have been humble Suitors to his Majesty and cannot as yet obtain Notwithstanding which this House being very sensible of the great Trust reposed in them Especially at this time of the manifold * Which they had occasioned Distractions of this Kingdom and the lamentable and distressed Condition of the Kingdom of Ireland doth Order That the House shall be adjourned until Tuesday next at One of the Clock in the Afternoon and that a Committee to be named by this House and all that will come to have Voices shall sit at Guild-Hall in the City of London to morrow Morning at 9 of the Clock and shall have Power to consider and resolve of all things that may concern the Good and Safety of the City and Kingdom and particularly how our Priviledges may be vindicated and our Persons secured and to consider of the Affairs and Relief of Ireland and shall have Power to advise and consult with any Person or Persons touching the Premisses and shall have Power to send for Parties Papers and Records And it is further Ordered That the Committee for Irish Affairs shall meet at the Guild-Hall aforesaid at what time they shall think fit and consult and do touching the Affairs of Ireland according to the Power formerly given them by this House And that both of the said Committees shall report the Results of their Considerations and Resolutions to the House Then it was resolved upon the Question That it shall be thus Ordered The Committee appointed to sit at Guild-Hall Mr. Chancellor of the Exchequer Mr. Glyn Mr. Whitlock L. Falkland Sir Philip Stapleton Mr. Fiennes Sir Ralph Hopton Sir John Hotham Sir Walter Earl Sir Robert Cooke Sir Thomas Waslingham Sir Samuel Rolls Mr. Pierrpoint Mr. Walther Long Sir Richard Cave Sir Edward Hungerford Mr. Grimston Sir Christopher Wray Sir Benjamin Rudiard Sir John Hippesley Mr. Herbert Price Sir John Wray Sir Thomas Barrington Mr. Wheeler Sir William Litton And this Committee are appointed by the former Order and are to pursue the Directions of the former Order and all that will come are to have Voices at this Committee These Resolutions following Orders concerning Ireland to exhaust the King's Stores being the Sum of what was agreed upon by the Committee of both Houses for Irish Affairs were this Day presented to the House and read and by Vote upon the Question ordered accordingly That the Arms and Ammunition of all Sorts with the Ordnance at Carlisle be sent into Ireland to Carrickfergus for Supply of those Parts of the North of Ireland and the Arms to be Ordered as my Lord Lieutenant shall direct That for a further Supply of those Parts and for the Arming of those two Regiments under the Lord Conway and Sir John Clotworthy that there be sent from the Tower 1000 Muskets with Bullet and Match proportionable 1500 Swords 10 Last of Powder these Arms and Ammunition to be sent thither and ordered and disposed of as the Lord Lieutenant thinks fit That 10 Last of Powder with Bullets and Match proportionable be sent from the Tower to Munster to be delivered to the Lord President of Munster or whom the Lord Lieutenant thinks fit That 2000 l. be Ordered to be delivered to Sir William Brereton upon Account for Payment of the 300 Horse now at Chester and for their transportation out of the Subsidies or Poll-Money That 3000 l. be assigned to be received in Cheshire or Wales out of the Subsidy or Poll-Money by the Victualler for the present Relief of Dublin and Drogheda That 2000 l. be delivered to the Victualler of Carrickfergus who is ready to set on the Work here having a Ship at his Charges in the River The Commons had as a Committee sate at Guild-Hall in the Morning where it seems there were great Debates concerning the Breach of Priviledges upon which Subject I find in the Prints of those times some Speeches enumerating some of the Priviledges of Parliament at least then reputed so which whether they remain so still I leave to the decision of those who are concerned The Speeches were as follows Mr. Speaker THere are no Courts of Judicature in this Kingdom of England Mr. Grimston's Speech at the Committee sitting at Guild-Hall Jan. 5. concerning Breach of Priviledges c. but they have several Rights and Priviledges appertaining and belonging unto them and have such Power and Authority in the several Jurisdictions of the same Offices that they may call to an account prosecute and bring to Judgment the Infringers and Breakers of the same Of all these Courts there is none yea put them all together they are not of such Power and Jurisdiction but inferior and subject to the Ordinances and Statutes of the High Court of Parliament Mr. Speaker of such awful predominancy is the very Name of a Parliament to this Nation that it strikes with Terror and Despair all such Evil Doers as are Male-factors in the State On the contrary side it cherishes and comforts the drooping spirits of men
groaning under the Burden of Tyrannical Oppression inflicted on them unjustly and maliciously by Unmerciful and Wicked Men that have Usurped unto themselves Places and Offices of Power and Authority both in Church and State Mr. Speaker This Great and high court is not only the Powerfullest of all other Courts whatsoever but the Prudentest and Wisest made and compacted not only of Men sound in Religion well Learned but Ripe in their Judgments contracted from all Parts of this Kingdom Elected Chosen with the free consent of the whole body Politique of the Kingdom this great and high Council is not only of such Power and Wisdom but indued and attended with the most and greatest Priviledges thereof that not only the meanest of his Majesties Subjects but the greatest Personages of the Kingdom are in danger if infringers of the same to be called in Question and by them punished therefore give me leave Mr. Speaker to speak somewhat of the Priviledges in this particular incident and appertaining to this Wise Senate and in speaking thereof I shall observe these three particulars 1. The Rights and Priviledges belonging to the same in the free Votes and Judicature thereof 2. The Rights and Priviledges belonging to the Power and Jurisdiction thereof 3. The Rights and Priviledges in the Continuances thereof being freely called and assembled by his Majesties Authority not to be dissolved or broken off till all things agitated therein for the good both of Church and Common-Wealth be fully concluded and determined First Mr. Speaker concerning the Priviledges of a Parliament belonging to the free Votes and Judicature thereof I shall observe these three particulars First To speak freely without Interruption or Contradiction in any Debate Dispute or Argument upon any business agitated in the same being a Member thereof I conceive to be one Priviledge of a Parliament Secondly Not to be questioned or any such free Dispute Argument or Debate to be taxed or accused for the same either during the free sitting thereof or after is another Priviledge of Parliament Thirdly Freely to give Vote Judgment or Sentence upon the Reading of any Bill to be made a Law or any Bill either of attainder or other Charge against Delinquents and Criminous Persons against the State at their Tryal upon the same is a third Priviledge of Parliament Fourthly To defend and Maintain the Free Vote Judgments and Sentences of the whole House by Protestation Remonstrance or other Declaration if not consented unto or opposed by the House of Lords is a Fourth Priviledge Fifthly For any Member of the House not to be accused of any Crime or Impeached for Treason by any Person whatsoever during the continuance of the Parliament for things done in the same without Legal Accusation and Prosecution of any such Member by the whole House is another Priviledge of Parliament Sixthly Not to be apprehended upon such Impeachment or arrested by any Officer or to have studies broken open their Books and Writings seized upon without consent or Warrant of the whole Parliament is another Priviledge of the same and thus much Mr. Speaker shall suffice to be spoken concerning the Priviledges and Rights of Parliament pertinent to the Subjects of which I am to speak I come now to the Second thing I proposed to your Audience which was the Rights and Priviledges belonging to the Power and Jurisdiction of the Parliament in which I shall observe these particulars First to consult and consider of what Laws are fit to be made and Enacted in this Kingdom for the good Government thereof is one Priviledge belonging to the Power and Jurisdiction of this High Court. Secondly to Justifie or abrogate repeal make Void to ratifie and Confirm Establish and Maintain Laws Statutes and Ordinances made and Enacted by precedent Parliaments by Councils of State or other Courts of Judicature is a second Priviledge pertaining to the Power and Jurisdiction of the Parliament Thirdly To give Subsidies to raise Taxes to impose Loans and other charges upon the Subject is another Priviledge belonging to the Power Jurisdiction of the Parliament Fourthly to Accuse or Impeach any Incendiaries or Delinquents in this Kingdom of any Crime notorious tending to the prejudice of his Majestie or any of his Loyal Subjects whether it be for Treason or other wayes be they Members of the Parliament or no is another Priviledge belonging to the Power and Jurisdiction of the Parliament Fifthly and lastly To prosecute and bring to Judgment such Persons so Accused or Impeached for any Crime whatsoever is another Priviledge belonging to the Power and Jurisdiction of this Court. And thus much of the Rights and Priviledges belonging to the Power and Jurisdiction of a Parliament And now Mr. Speaker I come to the last thing I Mentioned to you concerning the Priviledges belonging to the Continuance and Free sitting till all things be concluded of for the Good Government of Church and State in which I shall also observe these particulars First that for a Parliament when Freely called and Assembled by Royal Authority not to be to debate or argue any one particular business appointed by any person whatsoever is one Priviledge belonging to the Continuance of a Parliament Secondly Not to break off or dissolve a free Parliament until all the Grievances and oppression of all his Majesties Loyal Subjects be fully redressed and Remedied is a Second Priviledge belonging to the continuance of Parliament Thirdly Not to break off or dissolve a Parliament till all Incendiaries and Delinquents in the State be brought to condigne punishment for their Crimes Fourthly and lastly To Accuse or Impeach any Member of the Parliament thereby to hinder and interrupt the Legal Proceedings thereof in the Weighty Affairs of the Common-Wealth is another Priviledge belonging to the Continuance of a Parliament And thus having briefly declared to you the Power and Jurisdiction of a Parliament above all other Courts of Judicature in this Land the Wisdom and Policy of a Parliament above all other Councils the Rights and Priviledges of a Parliament in respect of the free Votes and Judicature thereof the Power and Jurisdiction thereof and the free continuance thereof I humbly leave to the Consideration of this House whether the accusation of these Gentlemen accused by his Majesty and the illegall breaking open upon this their Accusation of thir Chambers Truncks and studies be not a breach of some of the Priviledges of Parliament which I have Mentioned unto you I have nothing to say against the Real Priviledges of the High Court of Parliament but certainly that of a Parliaments sitting till all pretended Grievances are Redressed which is tantamount to sitting perpetually since there will be alwayes such Pretences is so far from being a Real Privilege of Parliament that among all the Rolls and Records of our Parliaments there cannot be found one single Instance of any Parliament that pretended or laid Claim to such a Privilege And there cannot be a more demonstrative Agreement against this
then the very Act which this Parliament obtained from the King that they should not be dissolved or prorogued by the King without their own Consent which was a plain Confession that till his Majesty had in this Particular by giving the Royal Assent to that fatal Bill limited the undoubted Power of his Prerogative it was an inherent Right annexed to the Imperial Crown of this Realm that the King was the sole Judg of the Calling Continuance and Dissolution of Parliaments And though some Seditious Pens and particularly the Apostate Author of the Life of Julian the Apostate have taken great Pains to revive and furbish up this Opinion and to reflect upon his present Majesty as the Rebels of this Parliament did upon his Royal Father for breaking up of some Mutinous and Troublesome Parliaments in the beginning of his Reign which plainly shews them to be of the Temper of the ill Men of those ill times yet I think they ought to stay before they Preach this Doctrine to the People for a true Privilege of Parliament till they have got such another Act of Perpetuation in one Hand and a Sword to maintain it in the other which is the only Argument that at long run such Seditious People must have Recourse to and I hope it may be some time before such another Act will be obtained and longer before they can get the Power of the Sword to maintain it And certainly were there no other Inconveniences yet the dismal Effects which the continuance of this Parliament brought upon the King and Kingdom to the intire Ruin of the Government Laws Liberty and Property of the English Nation are sufficient to give all Loyal and Honest Subjects very terrible Apprehensions not only of the thing it self but that the Persons who revive and propagate such Opinions must have Designs to compass and effect the same Mischiefs over again which like an Inundation drowned the Kingdom in Blood by the Breach of this Bank of Royal Prerogative of the Kings being the sole Judg of the continuance and dissolving of Parliaments Mr. Glyn's Speech upon this Subject was as followeth Mr. Speaker WE sit now upon that grand business of the Breaches of the Rights and Priviledges of Parliaments which are so many and great Mr. Glyn's Speech about Breach of Priviledges Jan. 5. 1641. so carefully preserved and defended and having in former times severely punished the infringers thereof that I had thought and conceived that no Subject of what degree or dignity soever would either in their own persons or by misinforming his Majesty concerning the same would have presumed to have intrenched in the least measure upon the free Liberty Rights and very Beings of Parliaments or tending to the Breach thereof But Mr. Speaker I perceive the perverseness of divers persons in places of Authority that they dare not only presume to provoke his Majesty by their politick mis-informations but dare attempt of themselves to resist the lawful power both of the King and his high Court of Parliament Mr. Speaker These Men notwithstanding they apparently perceive that their wicked practices and malicious designs cannot take effect according to their expectation but are rejected and detected as well by his Sacred Majesty as his Lords and his whole Council dare venture to endeavour by casting aspersions and spreading abroad evil reports not only of the Members but of the Proceedings of the House of Commons against them and others of their Adherents and Favourits in their wicked and desperate Actions and Designs against their lawful Soveraign and his Liege People I conceive Mr. Speaker did these persons but remember the many Presidents yet extant of the just and deserved punishments inflicted by former Parliaments upon such Miscreants as witness the Arch-Bishop of York the Duke of Suffolk Chief Justice Belknap and the rest of that Conspiracy in the Reign of King Edward the Second they would have prejudged to themselves the like danger would follow upon them for their evil Actions Nay Mr. Speaker did these men but consider with themselves the just judgments of God that have immediately lighted upon the necks of such as have been the troublers of Kingdoms and Common-wealth whereof they have been Members as well recorded in Sacred Writ as of late times in this Kingdom yet still in fresh Memory they would have laid their hands upon their Mouths and hearts when they went about to speak or do any thing tending to the dishonour of Almighty God in innovating of his true Religion corrupting the sincere Doctrine and discipline of Christ and his Apostles as also any thing tending to the dishonour and perpetual destruction of his Royal Majesty however otherwise they may pretend the Fundamental Laws and Liberties of this Kingdom the Rights and Priviledges of Parliaments and the very being thereof but surely Mr. Speaker they are altogether benummed and stupified their Consciences dead and seared their Lives and Conversations altogether devoted to the works of darkness and impurity their desires altogether sensual carnal and devilish forgetting God kicking and spurring with maliciousness against all Piety and Godliness or else they would never have adventured to practice such things as it is too too manifest they have done Mr. Speaker I intend to be brief in that which I am to speak concerning the Breaches of the Priviledges of Parliament First To inform his Majesty of any Proceedings in the House of Commons upon any businesses whatsoever before they have concluded finished and made ready the same to present to his Majesty for his Royal Assent thereunto is a Breach of the Priviledges of Parliament Secondly To mis-inform his Majesty contrary to the Proceedings in Parliament thereby to incense and provoke him against the same is a Breach of Priviledge of Parliament Thirdly To cause or procure any Information or Accusation to be brought or preferred without the knowledge or consent of the Parliament into the House against any of the Members thereof is a Breach of Priviledge of Parliament Fourthly To apprehend any such Accused to imprison their persons to seize upon their Goods or Estates to prosecute and proceed against them to their Tryal and Judgment to Condemn or Execute them upon such Accusation without the consent or advice of the Parliament is a Breach of the Priviledges thereof Fifthly To endeavour to cast an evil opinion of such Members Accused into the hearts of his Majesties Loyal Subjects whereby they disaffecting them may be ready and willing to put in execution any Command or Warrant for their apprehension and imprisonment is a Breach of the Priviledges of Parliament Sixthly To come in open Parliament for any Officer or Serjeant to demand and arrest any such Member accused be it of high Treason or any other Crime whatsoever without the knowledge of the whole House is a Breach of the Priviledges of Parliament Seventhly to come to a Parliament sitting in free consultation assisted and guarded with Armed Men and with them be sitting the
rid three Stages more as before is mentioned in order to the Royal Assent The Petition of the Inhabitants of Bucks which was delivered to his Majesty at Windsor was in these Words To the Kings most Excellent Majesty The humble Petition of the Inhabitants of the County of Buckinghamshire Sheweth THat your Petitioners having by vertue of your Highness Writ chosen John Hampden Knight for our Shire Bucks Petition to the King concerning Hampden in whose Loyalty we his Countrymen and Neighbours have ever had good cause to confide However of late to our no less amazement then grief we find him with other Members of Parliament accused of Treason And having taken to our serious consideration the manner of their Impeachment we cannot but under your Majesties favour conceive that it doth so oppugne the Rights of Parliament to the maintenance whereof our Protestation binds us that we believe it is the malice which their zeal to your Majesties Service and the State hath contracted in the enemies to your Majesty the Church and Common-wealth hath occasioned this foul Accusation rather then any deserts of theirs who do likewise through their sides wound the Judgment and Care of us your Petitioners and others by whose choice they were presented to the House Your Petitioners therefore most humbly pray that Master Hampden and the rest that lye under the burden of that Accusation may enjoy the just Priviledges of Parliament And your Petitioners shall ever pray c. To which his Majesty returned this Answer Windsor 13 Jan. 1641. HIs Majesty being graciously pleased to let his Subjects understand his care not knowingly to violate in the least degree any of the Priviledges of Parliament hath therefore lately by a Message sent by the Lord Keeper signified That he is pleased because of the doubt that hath been raised of the manner to Wave his former proceedings against Master Hampden and the rest mentioned in this Petition concerning whom his Majesty intends to proceed in an unquestionable way And then his Majesty saith It will appear that he had so sufficient Grounds to question them as he might not in Justice to the Kingdom and honour to himself have forborn and yet his Majesty had much rather that the said Persons should prove Innocent then be found guilty However he cannot conceive that their Crimes can in any sort reflect upon those his good Subjects who elected them to serve in Parliament It is Incredible what Advantages the Faction made of this Action of his Majesties in going to the Commons House in Person it shocked even many of his best Friends to that degree that they knew not what Construction to make of it insomuch that the Lord Mayor Aldermen and Common-Council Men Many of which were Loyal Men yet in this Epidemical Petitioning time they were also seized with the Petitioning Disease for however warrantable modest Petitioning may be yet this sort of it was really the Effect of a distempered and crazy State and did extremely promote all the insuing Mischiefs and that State Calenture for which England was forced to bleed so severely The Petition together with his Majesties most excellent Answer were as follows To the Kings most Excellent Majesty The humble Petition of the Mayor Aldermen and Common Councel of the City of London MAy it please your most excellent Majesty The Petition of the Lord Mayor c. of the City of London concerning the Kings going to the House of Commons the often expressions of your most gracious acceptance of the manifestation of the Petitioners duty and loyalty and the frequent Declarations of your Majesties great care of the good and welfare of this City and of the true Protestant Religion and of protecting and preserving the Persons and Priviledges of your great Councel assembled in the high Court of Parliament Each encouraged the Petitioners to represent the great Dangers Fears and Distractions wherein the City now is by reason of the prevailing progress of the bloudy Rebels in Ireland fomented and acted by the Papists and their Adherents and want of Aid to suppress them and the several intimations they have had both Forreign and at Home of the driving on of their Designs tending to the utter ruin of the Protestant Religion and of the Lives and Liberties of your Majesties loyal Subjects the Putting out of Persons of Honour and Trust from being Constable and Lieutenant of the Tower especially in these times and the Preparations there lately made the fortifying of Whitehall with men and Munition in an unusual manner Some of which men with provoking language and violence abused divers Citizens Passing by and the drawing divers swords and therewith wounding sundry other Citizens in Westminster-hall that were unarmed the late endeavours used to the Inns of Court the calling in divers Canonneers and other assistance into the Tower the late Discovery of divers Fire-works in the hands of a Papist and the mis-understanding betwixt your Majesty and Parliament by reason of misinformation as they humbly conceive Besides all which the Petitioners fears are exceedingly encreased by your Majesties late going into the House of Commons attended with a great multitude of armed men besides your ordinary Guard for the apprehending of divers Members of that House to the endangering of your Sacred person and of the persons and Priviledges of that Honourable Assembly The effects of all which Fears do tend not only to the overthrow of the whole Trade of this City and Kingdom which the Petitioners already feel in a deep measure but also threatens the utter ruine of the Protestant Religion and the Lives and Liberties of all your loyal Subjects The Petitioners therefore most humbly pray your Sacred Majesty That by the advice of your great Councel in Parliament the Protestants in Ireland may be speedily relieved The Tower put into the hands of persons of trust That by removal of doubtful and unknown persons from about White-hall and Westminster a known and approved Guard may be appointed for the safety of your Majesty and Parliament and that the Lord Mandevill and the five Members of the House of Commons lately accused may not be restrained of Liberty or proceeded against otherwise then according to the priviledges of Parliament And the Petitioners as in all duty bound shall pray for Your Majesties most long and happy Reign c. His Majesties Answer to the Petition of the Mayor Aldermen and Common-Councel of the City of London His Majesty having fully considered the matter of this Petition is graciously pleased to declare that being unalterably resolved to make good all his Expressions and Declarations of his care of this City Of the true Protestant Religion and of the privileges of Parliament His Majesty takes in good part the intimation given by the Petitioners of the fears and distractions wherein the City now seems to be And though He conceives He did on Wednesday at the Guild-hall satisfie most of those particulars is pleased to add this further Answer
power The Earl of Strafford had the first rise of his Greatness from this and in his Apology and Defence as your Lordships have heard this hath had a main part The Royal Power and Majesty of Kings is most Glorious in the Prosperity and happiness of the People the perfection of all things consists in the end for which they were ordained God only in his own end all other things have a further end beyond themselves in attaining whereof their own happiness consists if the means and the end be set in opposition to one another it must needs cause an impotency and defect of both The Eighth Consideration is the vanity and absurdity of those excuses and justifications which he made for himself whereof divers particulars have been mentioned in the course of this Defence 1. That he is a Counsellor and might not be questioned for any thing which he advised according to his Conscience The ground is true there is a liberty belongs to Counsellors and nothing corrupts Counsels more than Fear He that will have the priviledg of a Counsellor must keep within the just bounds of a Counsellor those matters are the proper Subjects of Counsel which in their times and occasions may be good or beneficial to the King or Common-wealth But such Treasons as these the subversion of the Laws violation of Liberties they can never be good or justifiable by any circumstance or occasion and therefore his being a Counsellor makes his fault much more hainous as being committed against a greater Trust and in a way of much mischief and danger lest His Majesties Conscience and Judgment upon which the whole course and frame of His Government do much depend should be poysoned and infected with such wicked Principles and Designs and this he hath endeavoured to do which by all Laws and in all Times hath in this Kingdom been reckoned a crime of an high Nature 2. He labours to interest your Lordships in his Cause by alleadging it may be dangerous to your selves and your posterity who by your Birth are fittest to be near His Majesty in places of Trust and Authority if you should be subject to be questioned for matters delivered in Council To this was answered That it was hoped their Lordships would rather labour to secure themselves and their posterity in the exercise of their Virtues than of their Vices that so they might together with their own Honor and Greatness preserve the Honor and Greatness both of the King and Kingdom 3. Another excuse was this That whatsoever he hath spoken was out of good intention Sometimes good and evil truth and falshood lye so near together that they are hardly to be distinguished Matters hurtful and dangerous may be accompanied with such circumstances as may make it appear useful and convenient and in all such cases good intention will justifie evil Counsel But where the matters propounded are evil in their own nature such as the matters are wherewith the Earl of Strafford is charged to break a publique Faith to subvert Laws and Government they can never be justified by any intentions how good soever they be pretended 4. He alleadgeth it was a time of great necessity and danger when such Counsels were necessary for preservation of the State Necessity hath been spoken of before as it relates to the Cause now it is considered as it relates to the Person if there were any necessity it was of his own making he by his evil Counsel had brought the King into a necessity and by no rules of Justice can be allowed to gain this advantage by his own fault as to make that a ground of his justification which is a great part of his offence 5. He hath often insinuated this That it was for His Majesties service in maintainance of that Soveraign Power with which he is intrusted by God for the good of his People The Answer is this No doubt but that Soveraign Power wherewith his Majesty is intrusted for the publique good hath many glorious effects the better to enable him thereunto But without doubt this is none of them That by his own Will he may lay any Tax or imposition upon His people without their consent in Parliament This hath now been five times adjudged by both Houses in the case of the Loans in condemning Commissions of Excise in the resolution upon the saving offered to be saved to the Petition of Right in the sentence against Manwaring and now Lutell in condemning the Shipmoney And if the Soveraign Power of the King can produce no such effect as this the Allegation of it is an aggravation and no diminution of his offence because thereby he doth labour to interest the King against the just grievance and complaint of the People 6. This Counsel was propounded with diverse Limitations and Provisions for securing and repairing the Liberty of the People This implies a contradiction to maintain an Arbitrary and Absolute Power and yet to restrain it with Limitations and Provisions for even those limitations and provisions will be subject to the same absolute power and to be dispensed in such manner and at such time as it self shall determine let the Grievances and Oppressions be never so heavy the Subject is left without all remedy but at His Majesties own pleasure 7. He alleadgeth They were but Words and no effect followed this needs no Answer but that the Miserable Distempers into which he hath brought all the three Kingdoms will be Evidence sufficient that his Wicked Counsels have had such Mischievous Effects within these two or three last years that many years peace will hardly repair those losses and other great Mischiefs which the Common-Wealth hath sustained 8. These Excuses have been collected out of the several Parts of his defence perchance some others are omitted which I doubt not have been Answered by some of my Collegues and are of no Importance either to perplex or to hinder your Lordships Judgment touching the hainousness of this Crime The 9th consideration is this That if this be Treason in the Nature of it it doth exceed all other Treasons in this That in the Design and Endeavour of the Author it was to be a constant and permanent Treason other Treasons are Transient as being confined within those particular Actions and Proportions wherein they did consist and those being past the Treason ceaseth The Powder Treason was full of horror and malignity yet it is past many years since The Murder of that Magnanimous and Glorious King Henry the Fourth of France was a great and horrid Treason and so were those manifold Attempts against Queen Elizabeth of blessed Memory but they are long since past the Detestation of them only remains in Histories and in the minds of men and will ever remain But this Treason if it had taken effect was to be a standing perpetual Treason which would have been in continual Act not determined within one time or Age but transmitted to Posterity even from one generation to
another The 10th Consideration is this That as it is a Crime odious in the Nature of it so it is odious in the Judgment and Estimation of the Law To alter the setled Frame and Constitution of Government is Treason in any state The Laws whereby all other parts of a Kingdom are preserved should be very vain and defective if they had not a power to secure and preserve themselves The Forfeitures inflicted for Treason by our Law are of Life Honor and Estate even all that can be forfeited and this Prisoner having committed so many Treasons although he would pay all these Forfeitures will be still a Debtor to the Common-wealth nothing can be more equal then that he should perish by the Justice of that Law which he would have Subverted neither will this be a new way of Blood There are Marks enough to trace this Law to the very Original of this Kingdom and if it hath not been put in Execution as he alleadgeth this 240 years it was not for want of Law but that all that time hath not bred a man bold enough to commit such Crimes as these which is a circumstance much aggravating his Offence and making him no whit less liable to punishment because he is the only Man that in so long a time hath ventured upon such a Treason as this It belongs to the Charge of another to make it appear to your Lordships that the Crimes and Offences proved against the Earl of Strafford are High-Treason by the Laws and Statutes of this Realm whose Learning and other Abilities are much better for that Service But for the time and manner of performing this we are to resort to the Direction of the House of Commons having in this which is already done dispatched all those Instructions which we have received and concerning further Proceedings for clearing all Questions and Objections in Law your Lordships will hear from the House of Commons in Convenient time For this and his Speech at the beginning of the Tryal Mr. Pym had the particular Thanks of the House of Commons and was Ordered to Print and Publish them Thus was the process closed as to matter of Fact that which was now remaining was matter of Law which the Lords had condescended that the Earl's Council should have liberty to speak to and accordingly a Message was sent from the Lords by Judge Reeves and Serjeant Glanvile upon Wednesday Wednesday April 14. 14th of April to let them know That their Lordships had appointed to hear the Earl of Strafford 's Council to morrow at 8 of the Clock concerning the matter of Law The Bill of Attainder was read again this day and the House was resolved into a Grand Committee of the whole House Mr. Peard having the Chair where it was warmly debated Mr. Selden Mr. Holborn Thursday April 15. Mr. Bridgman and several others opposing it The Commons sent to desire a Conference with the Lords about hearing the Earl's Council the Heads whereof were to represent to their Lordships 1. That it was 5 of the Clock before this intimation of their Lordships to hear the Earl of Strafford 's Council came to their House 2. Vpon former Conferences heretofore had with their Lordships a Saving was made by the House of Commons in that point whether Council should be heard or not and 't is not now time to consider whether they should depart from that Saving 3. Great difficulties to know to what purpose the Council shall be heard the Case not stated agreed on or made then to propound the danger and inconvenience is his Council make a Case and ravel into all the Evidence in such an Auditory and whether to dispute the Case as 't is alleadged in the Articles That the Evidence of the Fact being given it was in proposition from the beginning to go by way of Bill and that a Bill is exhibited here for his Attainder that the proceedings by way of Bill stands in no way of Opposition to these proceedings that have already been in this business that these several Considerations make more difficulty in this House then to come to a sudden and present Resolution And a Conference being had Mr. Whitlock reports it to the Commons That the Lord Say told them That they had taken into consideration this great business and were not absolutely resolved how to proceed but that the Earl of Strafford 's Council should have notice to attend here to morrow and should not speak to any matter of Fact but of Law only Upon Friday April 16th Friday April 16. the Commons fell upon the Debate about the last Conference and concerning the Earl of Strafford and came to this Vote Resolved upon the Question That the endeavour of Thomas Earl of Strafford to Subvert the ancient and Fundamental Laws of the Realms of England and Ireland and to introduce an Arbitrary and Tyrannical Government against Law in both these Realms is sufficiently proved Upon the Conference the Lords appointing Saturday Ten of the Clock for hearing the Earl of Strafford's Councel it was Ordered That a Committee of the whole House should be present at Westminster-Hall to hear the same And accordingly upon Saturday the 17th of April Saturday April 17. the Court being sate my Lord Steward acquainted the Earl of Strafford That the Lords had resolved to give him a fair hearing in the matter of Law and desired that his Councel might keep that Distance Moderation and Respect which was due to the Judicature and not at all meddle with matter of Fact The Earl replied That he did in all humility acknowledg the Favour and Justice done him by the Lords and that he never Expected other from such Just and Honourable Persons as their Lordships in whose Integrity and Goodness next under that which he had placed above he reposed his chiefest Confidence and hopes of the Vindication of his Innocence and for his Councel they knew much better than himself what concerned the point of Discretion and Respect due to that Illustrious Assembly and that he doubted not but they would give all Satisfaction and Obedience that was desired Then his Councel was called to the Bar and having permission given them Mr. Lane the Princes Attorney spoke as followeth My Lords THere is a Heavy Charge lyeth upon me and my Fellows Mr. Lane's Argument at Law in behalf of the Earl of Strafford Nothing less then to defend the Life the Estate the Reputation and the Posterity of this Honourable Person at the Bar and if therein we shall be the more pressing we hope your Lordships will interpret this our forwardness to be for Honesty and Conscience sake in a matter that nearly concerneth both But it shall be our endeavour to carry our selves with our best Respects to your Lrodships and with all Content and Satisfaction that may be to the House of Commons And because your Lordships mentioned the matter of Fact one thing I dare be bold to say That all the