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delivered to the Churches was writ also in his Epistles 2 Th ss 2. 15. 3 6. John 14 25. 16.13 And in all Ages those ●hom God raised up extraordinarily in every dispensation left in writing their Doctrine and Discipline Which W. R. it seems disowns And therefore the Scriptures containing generals and so left for our learning times and other circumstances distinguished And so contradicts his Associate F. B. who would make himself the head of their Society in propounding a cessation for he makes the Scriptures the rule exactly even to circumstances challenging G. F. in them But that he has called me for a Witness to he thinks belike his Master piece worth twice Printing what pity his Memory equalling his reading and skill in Translating should no sooner hit the Mark to make us in Union or Disunion with the Papists And so it might have been thrice Printed and I the third time call'd to witness it what he says he read in Polario Indeed I remember'd I had read such a thing there before I read it in his and the scope namely state matters to be in the case and Policy to please their Prince that those Politicians acted from not Conscience in Religion nor necessity and use but privare interest A Difference depending and a War impending between the Pope and French King as the pages adjoyning shew and it seems to be his scope to conceal this scope that he cited not the page 320. read it p. ●●● and 321. Put the Testimonys of the Fathers Hilarius Theodoret c. cited by them we do own for exceptions in Rules or Canons upon the grounds of Necessicy or Vse which those Papists neither shewed on their supposition then nor can these Men sufficiently shew on theirs now And I can sufficiently prove that we are so far from going beyond the Papists that we come short of the Protestants accounted the best reformed in this matter of exercising Church power about Rules Orders c. And thereto I have made choice of an Epitome of the Doctrine of Calvin Beza Zanchy Hemingius Aretius Z●gedinus Sadeel Grynaeiui Danaeus Whittak●r and other the famousest Men of the Protestant Churches in Germany Helvetia Danemark Hungaria France England c. Bucan loc co see his preface Which I may well oppose to his assertion of all Resormed Protestants naming none not one proof or instance for all his pretended reading as if he knew them all and all they said Take all aforesaid epitomized in Bucan having gathered from them as followeth Loc. 43. Of the Power of the Church and Discipline The power of the Church in delivering or making Laws is constitutive so far as that Pastors and Governours of the Church may establish and abrogate certain Canons Rules and Laws in outward and indifferent things to appoint Polity Order Decency and certain rites for Honesty or good report and to cherish a consent of all the outward Members of the Church in outward Worship as the necessity or use usefulness of the Church seems to require For such Canons are not universal in a great part nor perpetual Example First Meeting at Jerusalem and Paul The same by Word and Epistle taught by the Holy Ghost Examples of such Canons are To Pray bare-headed Decency to be kept in burying the Dead Solemnizing Marriages Certain days hours and places Order in Prayers and Preachings and many other such like things Col. 2.5 1 Cor. 14.40 1 Tim. 3.15 Act. 15.29 Thus fur there wherein we come a large step short of those Protestants in imposing much less beyond the Papists as he charges us Again they say These Laws are established or abrogated in particular Churches by Pastors and Elders the whole Flock knowing and approving Not rashly to be receeded from being confirmed by the Judgment of the Pastors and Elders and Gods word and agreeing and just reasons Act. 15.2.22 2● 25. General Meetings of the whole Church represented by Delegates or chosen Men excelling in gifts of the Holy Ghost As then so now Christ ought to be present and President in the Counsel of Doctors or Teachers to drive away Wolves and determine Controversies raised in the Church and to constitute outward good order such as is expedient for the whole Church Mat. 18.20 Act. 15.28 1 Cor. 5.4 And it is the duty of Pastors to foresee or provide that no hurt befal the Church but to stir up one another to meet in the Name of the whole Church in common Counsel the Laies or Common People not being excluded And the Judgment of Meetings in the midist whereof Christ is who are gathered in his Name is not to be despised And such Constitutions or Canons none can wittingly violate or contemn with a clear Conscience both in respect of Offence and contumacy 1 Cor. 12.28.29 But without offence of weak Brethren and being hindered by just causes it is lawful sometimes to omit things with a clear Conscience 1 Cor. 14.40 The effect and use hereof is Order whereby Peace and Concord is kept in the well composed state of the Church and Decency for Piety Modesty and Gravity If one offend another admontion is to be used according to Christs rule Mat. 18.15 16. And they that profess themselves Members of the Church are to be called to this Judgment 1 Cor. 5.11 c. This Judgment of the Church hath been from the Beginning of the World and Christ continued it Gen. 4.26 6.4 26.4 Lev. 5.1 13.2 40. 14.2 Numb 5.2 6. 19 1. c. Mat. 18.18 1 Cor. 5.1 2 3. c. 1 Tim. 1.20 And Paul c. Much more there appertaining to this Question which I have set down in as much brevity as the matter will allow And but for that I could add to confirm this the particular Judgments of Vrsin Zanchy Keckerman Pareus Junius and several others in their systems and Works See Hookers Church Government and other writers on that Subject of our own Country the Harmony of Confessions of Protestant Churches And then judge whether we go beyond the Papists or Protestants either in this matter of imposing of Discipline and Church Government Which if W. R. and his party reject in general seeming to own none p. 1. then he may take for his Authors Coppin Quatin Claudin Poquius Bertrand c. and those runners out among the ranting Libertines Antimonians Anabaptists c. of those times whom Calvin Luther Melancton Brentius and others write of Beyond whom he takes a large step his own phrase like those whom Paul writes of Heb. 10.25 whose manner was to forsake assembling themselves together And Platonicks who thought the Church to be at all times altogether invisible Id. ibid. Ioc. 41. So he goes a large step going beyond all outward Society and Government and is far short of having in double honour the Elders that rule well c. 1 Tim. 5.17 As for that wherein he charges us for going a large step beyond the Papists They have been answered that we disown it deny it and have disproved it again and again and shewed that they of Barbadoes themselves have disown●d it And also G. F G. W. and A. P. in their Letter to them which I have formerly illustrated by t●elve Reasons whereof Scandal is one which T. C. pertinaciously and W R yet here will have the only reason And their manner is taking no notice of the answer to affirm and reprint the same Charge over and over after the manner of T. Hicks and other our Adversaries very unfairly to deceive the Reader and abuse both him and us And they might with more colour of reason charge the Apostle Peter Exhorting to well doing and good Conversation that he did it only to avoid Scandal stop the Mouth put to shame and silence foollish Accusers because in that place that one motive is only mentioned by him 1 Pet. 2. 15 3.16 Whereas in the said Letter to Barbados it is a twelveth motive there being eleven other weighty ones yet all those will not silence the Ignorance and Malice of W. R. T. C. F. B. c. so profound they are and inveterate But without mentioning them they repeat and reprint Retorting and perverting not only the thing disown'd but the very letter disowning it because therein Scandal is alledged as a motive or reason amongst eleven other reasons why we disown it Richard Richardson THE END ANSWERS Printed and Sold by John Bringhurst at the Sign of the Book and Three Black-Birds in Leaden-Hall Mutton-Market 1. AN Epistle of Cantion to Friends to have a care of that Treacherous Spirit that is entered into W. Rogers and his Abettors c. 2. The Accuser of our Brethren cast down in Righteous Judgment c. in Answer to W. R. 3. R. R's Ingredients against W. Rogers 4. An Exalted Diotrephes Reprehended c. in Answer to W. R. 5. Truth and Innocency triumphing over Falshood and Envy c. in Answer to W. R. 6. Something in answer to W. R's Sixth and Eighth part of his Christian Quaker c. 7. Righteous Judgments placed upon the Head of Malicious Opposers c. 8. The Liberty of an Apostate Conscience discovered c. Both in Answer to F. B. 9. William Rogers's Scourge of Tow fired c. 10. The Line of Truth and true Judgment c.