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A65699 A discourse concerning the idolatry of the Church of Rome wherein that charge is justified, and the pretended refutation of Dr. Stillingfleet's discourse is answered / by Daniel Whitby ... Whitby, Daniel, 1638-1726.; Stillingfleet, Edward, 1635-1699. 1674 (1674) Wing W1722; ESTC R34745 260,055 369

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converse_v with_o god_n 318._o god_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d bosil_n tom._n 1._o orat._n in_o jusiti_n martyr_n p._n 318._o prayer_n be_v a_o request_n of_o some_o good_a thing_n which_o be_v make_v by_o pious_a man_n to_o god_n say_v basil_n whence_o elsewhere_o he_o assert_n that_o prayer_n be_v not_o direct_v unto_o man_n but_o god_n 30._o god_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d greg._n nyss_n de_fw-fr orat._n dom._n or_o 2._o p._n 724._o d._n chrysost_o in_o gen._n hom._n 30._o prayer_n be_v a_o conference_n with_o god_n say_v nyssen_n and_o a_o request_n of_o good_a thing_n which_o be_v offer_v with_o supplication_n unto_o god_n prayer_n be_v a_o colloquy_n with_o god_n and_o every_o one_o that_o pray_v discourse_v with_o god_n so_o st._n 139._o st._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d chrysost_n tom._n 4._o p._n 139._o chrysostome_n hence_o on_o that_o expression_n of_o st._n paul_n with_o all_o that_o call_v upon_o the_o name_n of_o the_o lord_n he_o note_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o st._n paul_n do_v not_o say_v that_o call_v on_o this_o or_o that_o i.e._n of_o any_o thing_n but_o christ_n and_o on_o these_o word_n do_v all_o in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o lord_n jesus_n he_o comment_v thus_o i.e._n do_v all_o thing_n pray_v unto_o he_o for_o help_v and_o before_o all_o thy_o business_n make_v thy_o supplication_n to_o he_o or_o he_o say_v thus_o say_v and_o do_v all_o thing_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o or_o according_a to_o god_n and_o introduce_v not_o angel_n but_o t._n g._n have_v some_o argument_n to_o prove_v that_o saint_n and_o angel_n have_v the_o knowledge_n of_o our_o heart_n and_o action_n viz._n it_o be_v say_v luke_n 15.7_o 419._o object_n t._n g._n p._n 419._o there_o shall_v be_v joy_n in_o heaven_n and_o v._o 10._o there_o shall_v be_v joy_n before_o the_o angel_n of_o god_n upon_o one_o sinner_n that_o do_v penance_n and_o the_o saint_n in_o heaven_n no_o doubt_n rejoice_v as_o much_o at_o the_o conversion_n of_o a_o sinner_n as_o the_o angel_n do_v not_o only_o the_o angel_n of_o god_n 315._o answ_n white_a against_o fisher_n p._n 315._o but_o holy_a man_n on_o earth_n rejoice_v at_o the_o conversion_n of_o a_o sinner_n luke_n 15.24_o 2_o cor._n 7.9_o likewise_o parent_n minister_n and_o friend_n rejoice_v etc._n etc._n and_o yet_o it_o follow_v not_o from_o hence_o that_o holy_a man_n on_o earth_n which_o rejoice_v at_o the_o conversion_n of_o a_o sinner_n see_v the_o secret_n of_o the_o heart_n 1_o cor._n 2.11_o so_o likewise_o angel_n which_o be_v minister_a spirit_n hebr._n 1_o 14._o may_v understand_v by_o the_o sign_n and_o fruit_n of_o true_a repentance_n the_o conversion_n of_o divers_a sinner_n and_o consequent_o they_o may_v rejoice_v without_o intuitive_a knowledge_n of_o the_o heart_n 2._o our_o saviour_n word_n luke_n 15.10_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o conclusion_n of_o a_o parable_n which_o must_v not_o be_v strain_v beyond_o the_o true_a scope_n but_o according_a to_o the_o exposition_n of_o sundry_a 168._o sundry_a anbr●s_n l._n 7._o in_o lucam_n hilar_n in_o matth._n 18_o isid●r_n lib._n alleg._n chrysol_n serm._n 168._o father_n and_o some_o learned_a locum_fw-la learned_a cojet_fw-fr &_o titus_n bostrensis_n in_o locum_fw-la papist_n the_o hundred_o sheep_n v._o 4._o represent_v the_o whole_a body_n of_o the_o elect_n consist_v of_o man_n and_o angel_n the_o ninety_o and_o nine_o sheep_n not_o lose_v be_v the_o angel_n persist_v in_o their_o prime_a integrity_n the_o stray_n sheep_n all_o mankind_n sin_v in_o adam_n to_o recover_v this_o lose_a sheep_n the_o son_n of_o god_n that_o good_a shepherd_n jo._n 10.11_o be_v incarnate_a and_o by_o the_o gracious_a work_n of_o redemption_n he_o lay_v the_o same_o on_o his_o shoulder_n now_o there_o be_v great_a joy_n in_o heaven_n before_o the_o celestial_a angel_n for_o this_o recovery_n and_o salvation_n of_o mankind_n so_o that_o no_o more_o can_v be_v infer_v from_o this_o parable_n but_o that_o the_o court_n of_o heaven_n and_o in_o the_o same_o the_o holy_a angel_n rejoice_v because_o of_o man_n redemption_n 3._o when_o it_o be_v say_v that_o there_o be_v joy_n in_o heaven_n we_o may_v expound_v it_o as_o dr._n hammond_n do_v not_o of_o the_o joy_n of_o angel_n but_o of_o god_n and_o have_v we_o no_o reason_n to_o confirm_v this_o sense_n it_o be_v sufficient_a to_o destroy_v the_o force_n of_o what_o t._n g._n do_v hence_o conclude_v from_o this_o citation_n that_o it_o may_v fair_o be_v expound_v in_o that_o sense_n which_o render_v it_o impertinent_a to_o his_o design_n but_o since_o it_o be_v not_o say_v to_o be_v the_o joy_n of_o angel_n but_o that_o joy_n which_o be_v express_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i.e._n before_o the_o holy_a angel_n this_o do_v sufficient_o demonstrate_v that_o it_o be_v the_o joy_n of_o he_o before_o who_o face_n they_o stand_v continual_o moreover_o it_o be_v confess_o god_fw-we who_o be_v compare_v to_o the_o shepherd_n and_o to_o the_o woman_n seek_v the_o lose_a groat_n and_o therefore_o the_o similitude_n require_v that_o the_o joy_n conceive_v when_o the_o lose_a sheep_n and_o groat_n be_v find_v shall_v be_v ascribe_v to_o he_o whereas_o our_o savour_n himself_o say_v ib._n object_n t._n g._n ib._n that_o the_o just_a in_o the_o resurrection_n shall_v be_v as_o the_o angel_n in_o heaven_n matth._n 22.30_o the_o equality_n as_o to_o knowledge_n not_o depend_v upon_o the_o body_n it_o follow_v by_o the_o analogy_n of_o faith_n that_o our_o prayer_n and_o concern_v be_v know_v also_o to_o the_o saint_n now_o enjoy_v the_o same_o blissful_a vision_n with_o the_o angel_n christ_n do_v not_o only_o say_v answ_n answ_n that_o the_o spirit_n of_o just_a person_n shall_v be_v like_o the_o angel_n but_o he_o express_v wherein_o they_o shall_v be_v so_o to_o wit_n 1._o in_o freedom_n from_o secular_a action_n and_o passion_n 2._o inglorious_a adoption_n or_o real_a possession_n of_o all_o the_o privilege_n of_o the_o son_n of_o god_n we_o can_v therefore_o hence_o infer_v a_o parity_n of_o quality_n and_o operation_n betwixt_o the_o angel_n and_o the_o spirit_n of_o just_a man_n but_o only_o a_o similitude_n of_o state_n and_o privilege_n as_o 117._o as_o verum_fw-la haec_fw-la authoritas_fw-la ut_fw-la ingemiè_fw-la fatear_fw-la solum_fw-la aequat_fw-la homines_fw-la angelis_n in_fw-la hoc_fw-la quod_fw-la nullum_fw-la mutrimonti_fw-la usum_fw-la ha●ebunt_fw-la si●●t_fw-la nec_fw-la angeli_fw-la non_fw-la tamen_fw-la ibidem_fw-la facit_fw-la pare●_n quantum_fw-la ad_fw-la facialem_fw-la visionem_fw-la det._n alph._n the_o castr_n l._n 3._o c._n haer._n v._n beat._n v._o jansen_n harm_n evang._n c._n 117._o papist_n do_v themselves_o confess_v 2._o christ_n do_v not_o 61._o not_o in_o illa_fw-la requie_n positus_fw-la ceitè_fw-fr securus_fw-la expectas_fw-la judicii_fw-la diem_fw-la quando_fw-la reeipias_fw-la &_o co_fw-la ●us_o quande_fw-la immuteris_fw-la ut_fw-la angelo_fw-la aequaeris_fw-la aust_n in_o ps_n 36._o f_o 61._o say_v the_o spirit_n of_o just_a man_n be_v as_o the_o angel_n now_o but_o that_o at_o the_o resurrection_n they_o shall_v be_v so_o 380._o white_a p._n 380._o now_o i_o admire_v what_o papist_n can_v extort_v from_o hence_o for_o invocation_n of_o saint_n for_o there_o be_v no_o connexion_n between_o this_o antecedent_n and_o consequent_a to_o wit_n just_a man_n at_o the_o resurrection_n shall_v live_v as_o angel_n remote_a from_o all_o the_o necessity_n of_o a_o worldly_a life_n and_o they_o shall_v be_v as_o the_o angel_n of_o god_n free_a from_o material_a and_o corporeal_a passion_n and_o equal_a to_o the_o angel_n in_o fruition_n of_o blessedness_n ergo_fw-la the_o knowledge_n of_o our_o prayer_n which_o we_o make_v in_o this_o life_n be_v not_o to_o be_v deny_v unto_o glorious_a saint_n the_o fellow_n of_o angel_n the_o smoke_n of_o the_o incense_v of_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o saint_n ascend_v from_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o angel_n before_o god_n apoc_n 8.4_o ergo_fw-la ibid._n object_n ibid._n our_o prayer_n and_o action_n be_v not_o unknown_a to_o the_o angel_n 1._o this_o place_n of_o st._n john_n prove_v not_o 314._o answ_n white_a p._n 314._o either_o clear_o or_o obscure_o that_o holy_a angel_n hear_v the_o prayer_n or_o see_v the_o action_n and_o affection_n of_o man_n for_o the_o angel_n mention_v be_v expound_v by_o the_o ancient_a expositor_n and_o by_o the_o romanist_n themselves_o not_o of_o a_o angel_n by_o nature_n but_o of_o a_o angel_n by_o office_n and_o by_o some_o of_o they_o of_o a_o angel_n by_o type_n locum_fw-la type_n in_o locum_fw-la albertus_n in_o his_o commentary_n st._n john_n say_v another_o angel_n that_o be_v christ_n who_o be_v the_o angel_n of_o the_o covenant_n esay_n 9_o dionysius_n carthusianus_n 8._o carthusianus_n doctores_fw-la cae●belici_fw-la per_fw-la angelum_fw-la isium_n intelligunt_fw-la christum_fw-la qui_fw-la magni_fw-la
betwixt_o the_o practice_n that_o in_o these_o time_n begin_v to_o be_v approve_v by_o some_o man_n and_o what_o be_v now_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n for_o 1._o that_o which_o we_o chief_o do_v object_n against_o that_o church_n be_v that_o she_o do_v enjoin_v we_o to_o believe_v that_o even_o mental_a prayer_n be_v well_o address_v to_o they_o and_o consequent_o that_o they_o have_v the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o conception_n of_o the_o heart_n and_o the_o sincerity_n of_o its_o intention_n whereas_o the_o father_n of_o that_o age_n without_o distinction_n or_o exception_n hold_v that_o it_o be_v proper_a to_o god_n to_o perceive_v the_o secret_n of_o the_o heart_n this_o by_o the_o concurrent_a judgement_n of_o the_o father_n be_v no_o more_o communicate_v to_o the_o creature_n than_o be_v the_o knowledge_n of_o what_o be_v future_a and_o contingent_a as_o i_o have_v prove_v already_o chap_n 6._o prop._n 2.4_o 2._o whereas_o the_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n do_v make_v it_o good_a and_o profitable_a for_o all_o people_n to_o call_v upon_o they_o in_o all_o place_n though_o as_o far_o distant_a from_o they_o as_o be_v earth_n from_o heaven_n or_o as_o one_o corner_n of_o the_o earth_n be_v from_o the_o other_o some_o of_o these_o father_n do_v conceive_v the_o saint_n be_v present_a at_o their_o tomb_n and_o shrine_n and_o be_v so_o they_o may_v attend_v unto_o the_o prayer_n of_o they_o that_o do_v resort_v unto_o they_o thus_o when_o it_o be_v object_v by_o vigilantius_n to_o st._n jerom_n if_o it_o be_v so_o than_o the_o soul_n of_o martyr_n love_v their_o ash_n and_o hover_v still_o about_o they_o and_o be_v always_o there_o lest_o if_o any_o petitioner_n shall_v come_v they_o be_v absent_a shall_v not_o hear_v he_o i_o say_v when_o this_o be_v urge_v by_o vigilantius_n agreeable_o to_o that_o opinion_n which_o then_o begin_v to_o gather_v strength_n and_o to_o be_v own_v in_o the_o christian_a church_n st._n jerom_n do_v not_o as_o t._n g._n deny_v the_o sequel_n but_o lay_v down_o this_o absurd_a and_o monstrous_a tenet_n to_o defend_v it_o that_o sunt_fw-la that_o si_fw-mi agnus_fw-la ubique_fw-la ergo_fw-la &_o high_a qui_fw-la cum_fw-la agno_fw-la sunc_fw-la ubique_fw-la esse_fw-la credend●_fw-la sunt_fw-la if_o the_o lamb_n be_v every_o where_o they_o also_o that_o be_v with_o the_o lamb_n must_v be_v believe_v to_o be_v every_o where_n moreover_o he_o represent_v it_o as_o a_o wicked_a speech_n of_o vigilantius_n vigilant_a vigilantius_n ais_fw-mi enim_fw-la vel_fw-la in_o sinu_fw-la abrahae_fw-la vel_fw-la in_o loco_fw-la refrigerii_fw-la vel_fw-la subter_fw-la aram_fw-la dei_fw-la animas_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la &_o martyrum_fw-la consedisse_fw-la nec_fw-la posse_fw-la de_fw-la suis_fw-la tumulis_fw-la &_o ubi_fw-la vol●erunt_fw-la adesse_fw-la praesentes_fw-la hier._n adversus_fw-la vigilant_a that_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o martyr_n can_v not_o be_v present_a at_o their_o tomb_n never_o suggest_v in_o the_o least_o that_o such_o a_o presence_n be_v needless_a to_o this_o end_n 16._o end_n de_fw-fr cura_fw-la pro_fw-la mortuis_fw-la c._n 16._o st._n austin_n do_v affirm_v that_o either_o the_o martyr_n themselves_o must_v be_v at_o one_o time_n in_o such_o divers_a place_n so_o far_o distant_a from_o one_o another_o viz._n as_o they_o be_v distant_a with_o who_o they_o be_v conceive_v to_o pray_v at_o their_o memorial_n or_o if_o they_o be_v not_o present_a they_o must_v be_v remove_v from_o all_o commerce_n with_o the_o affair_n of_o man_n here_o and_o only_o pray_v in_o general_a for_o the_o necessity_n of_o supplicant_n sulpitius_n upon_o the_o death_n of_o st._n martin_n comfort_v himself_o with_o this_o consideration_n batav_n consideration_n non_fw-la deerit_fw-la nobis_fw-la ille_fw-la mibi_fw-la crede_fw-la non_fw-la deerit_fw-la intererit_fw-la de_fw-la se_fw-la sermocinantibus_fw-la adsiabit_fw-la orantibus_fw-la epist_n 2._o de_fw-la obitu_fw-la &_o appar_fw-la s._n martini_n p._n 533_o ed._n lugd._n batav_n that_o he_o will_v not_o be_v want_v to_o they_o and_o of_o this_o assertion_n he_o immediate_o subjoin_v this_o reason_n viz_o he_o will_v be_v present_a with_o we_o speak_v of_o he_o and_o will_v stand_v by_o we_o when_o we_o pray_v upon_o which_o passage_n the_o scholiast_n observe_v that_o it_o be_v vulgar_o believe_v that_o holy_a martyr_n be_v present_a at_o their_o sepulcher_n that_o this_o be_v also_o the_o opinion_n of_o nazianzen_n basil_n and_o all_o the_o father_n cite_v by_o t.g._n be_v large_o prove_v by_o †_o bochartus_fw-la if_o then_o these_o father_n do_v in_o this_o particular_a maintain_v what_o be_v confess_o erroneous_a why_o may_v they_o not_o be_v subject_a to_o the_o same_o mistake_n touch_v the_o doctrine_n of_o invocation_n of_o the_o saint_n depart_v and_o then_o that_o error_n in_o their_o judgement_n must_v necessary_o give_v rise_v to_o that_o unwarrantable_a practice_n which_o in_o those_o time_n begin_v to_o be_v approve_v have_v in_o general_a lay_v down_o these_o proposition_n 4._o traiteé_v second_o de●l'invoc_n des_fw-fr saint_n c._n 4._o i_o may_v decline_v all_o far_a answer_n to_o what_o t.g._n produce_v from_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o fore_n mention_v father_n in_o favour_n of_o that_o practice_n we_o dispute_v against_o but_o that_o he_o may_v not_o think_v we_o study_v to_o decline_v what_o he_o have_v offer_v we_o proceed_v to_o a_o particular_a reflection_n on_o they_o and_o shall_v endeavour_v to_o demonstrate_v that_o they_o be_v either_o cite_v out_o of_o spurious_a and_o doubtful_a book_n or_o be_v impertinent_o allege_v and_o cor._n sect._n 7._o hom._n 26._o in_o 2_o cor._n 1._o among_o the_o spurious_a or_o doubtful_a author_n we_o reckon_v that_o passage_n cite_v from_o st._n chrysostom_n this_o be_v the_o judgement_n of_o erasmus_n who_o in_o his_o preface_n before_o his_o latin_a translation_n of_o basil_n de_fw-fr spiritu_fw-la 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and_o therefore_o to_o ascribe_v this_o knowledge_n to_o they_o be_v to_o ascribe_v unto_o they_o what_o be_v god_n propriety_n and_o consequent_o to_o be_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n by_o prop._n 1._o and_o as_o a_o far_a evidence_n that_o no_o such_o knowledge_n be_v communicate_v to_o the_o bless_a angel_n either_o by_o revelation_n or_o by_o the_o beatific_a vision_n consider_v that_o from_o this_o suppose_a communication_n it_o will_v follow_v as_o it_o be_v well_o suggest_v by_o the_o learned_a 80_o learned_a addamus_fw-la angelos_n ne_fw-la quidem_fw-la supernaturaliter_fw-la de_fw-la facto_fw-la cognoscere_fw-la quaslibet_fw-la cordium_fw-la cogitationes_fw-la quasi_fw-la hoc_fw-la eye_n competat_fw-la communi_fw-la lege_fw-la beatudinis_fw-la nam_fw-la si_fw-la ita_fw-la esset_fw-la nondum_fw-la absolutam_fw-la haberent_fw-la veritatem_fw-la generales_fw-la sententiae_fw-la soli_fw-la deo_fw-la tribuentes_fw-la notitiam_fw-la occultarum_fw-la cogitationum_fw-la quandoquidem_fw-la beneficio_fw-la beatudinis_fw-la id_fw-la esset_fw-la multis_fw-la communicatum_fw-la sed_fw-la intelligendae_fw-la essent_fw-la cum_fw-la limitatione_n hac_fw-la aut_fw-la simili_fw-la solus_fw-la deus_fw-la naturaliter_fw-la novit_fw-la etc._n etc._n quam_fw-la utique_fw-la limitationem_fw-la nusquam_fw-la insiavant_fw-la addendam_fw-la esset_fw-la ut_fw-la sicut_fw-la absolute_a verum_fw-la maneat_fw-la solum_fw-la deum_fw-la de_fw-la facto_fw-la nosse_fw-la quaelibet_fw-la futura_fw-la contingentia_fw-la non_fw-la obstante_fw-la eo_fw-la quod_fw-la quaedam_fw-la seis_fw-mi amiciss_fw-la revela_fw-la ita_fw-la etiam_fw-la absolute_a verum_fw-la maneat_fw-la solum_fw-la de_fw-la facto_fw-la nosse_fw-la passim_fw-la quaelibet_fw-la occulta_fw-la cordium_fw-la quoniam_fw-la ut_fw-la dictum_fw-la est_fw-la authoritates_fw-la de_fw-fr ●troque_fw-la loquuntur_fw-la eodem_fw-la modo_fw-la in_o senten_a l._n 2._o distinc_fw-la 7._o §_o 12._o p._n 80_o esthius_n that_o 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heart_n nor_o have_v we_o any_o reason_n to_o conceive_v that_o such_o a_o knowledge_n ordinary_o belong_v to_o saint_n and_o angel_n 4._o §_o 4._o 2._o to_o worship_v any_o creature_n with_o the_o mind_n be_v to_o be_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n this_o be_v the_o ancient_a and_o undoubted_a doctrine_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o christ_n for_o this_o st._n austin_n witness_v that_o 34._o that_o divinè_n &_o singulariter_fw-la in_o ecclesla_n catholica_fw-la
a_o little_a after_o that_o to_o they_o it_o be_v give_v to_o preside_v over_o the_o earth_n or_o to_o be_v patron_n or_o inspector_n of_o such_o a_o city_n or_o of_o such_o a_o country_n and_o upon_o that_o account_n infer_v we_o must_v both_o pray_v and_o offer_v our_o thandsgiving_n and_o first_o fruit_n unto_o they_o to_o all_o this_o origen_n reply_n that_o we_o must_v offer_v up_o our_o prayer_n to_o god_n alone_o and_o we_o must_v pray_v to_o he_o alone_o to_o who_o we_o offer_v our_o first_o fruit_n in_o both_o which_o place_n if_o origen_n intend_v only_o to_o affirm_v that_o prayer_n be_v due_a to_o god_n which_o imply_v the_o object_n of_o our_o supplication_n to_o be_v the_o high_a god_n and_o the_o chief_a author_n of_o all_o good_a it_o be_v apparent_a he_o do_v not_o in_o the_o least_o deny_v what_o celsus_n plead_v for_o viz._n such_o supplication_n as_o he_o conceive_v due_a to_o such_o daemon_n as_o be_v commissionated_a from_o god_n and_o belong_v to_o he_o 5._o 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lib._n 8._o p._n 417._o and_o do_v imagine_v that_o to_o worship_n god_n alone_o and_o honour_v he_o be_v not_o sufficient_a to_o preserve_v those_o that_o do_v so_o from_o disease_n and_o the_o insidiation_n of_o evil_a spirit_n which_o be_v a_o evident_a conviction_n that_o he_o do_v not_o think_v the_o invocation_n of_o the_o archangel_n gabriel_n michael_n raphael_n or_o of_o sebastian_n valentinus_n or_o any_o other_o roman_a saint_n which_o they_o of_o rome_n do_v daily_o invocate_v for_o their_o protection_n from_o these_o evil_a spirit_n and_o the_o disease_n which_o they_o be_v subject_a to_o be_v needful_a for_o that_o end_n or_o that_o it_o can_v be_v practise_v without_o distrust_v of_o the_o all-sufficient_a god_n 2._o he_o add_v it_o be_v much_o better_a to_o commit_v ourselves_o to_o god_n the_o lord_n of_o all_o thing_n by_o jesus_n christ_n and_o ask_v of_o he_o all_o help_n 418._o lib._n 8._o p._n 418._o and_o in_o particular_a the_o custody_n of_o the_o holy_a 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c._n 12._o run_v through_o all_o the_o word_n of_o holy_a prayer_n and_o you_o will_v be_v able_a to_o find_v nothing_o which_o be_v not_o include_v in_o the_o lord_n prayer_n in_o this_o both_o protestant_n and_o roman_a catholic_n agree_v hence_o therefore_o i_o assume_v if_o when_o we_o pray_v for_o any_o thing_n contain_v in_o this_o prayer_n we_o be_v enjoin_v to_o pray_v to_o god_n than_o all_o our_o acceptable_a prayer_n must_v be_v direct_v to_o he_o and_o whensoever_o we_o do_v pray_v for_o any_o blessing_n we_o must_v call_v upon_o he_o beside_o our_o father_n do_v belong_v to_o every_o petition_n no_o other_o person_n be_v mention_v in_o this_o prayer_n so_o that_o the_o sense_n run_v thus_o our_o father_n etc._n etc._n let_v thy_o kingdom_n come_v our_o father_n let_v thy_o will_v be_v do_v etc._n etc._n and_o then_o the_o import_n of_o this_o injunction_n will_v be_v this_o when_o you_o pray_v for_o the_o advancement_n of_o god_n glory_n or_o the_o promotion_n of_o his_o kingdom_n or_o the_o performance_n of_o his_o will_n when_o you_o solicit_v for_o any_o temporal_a blessing_n or_o for_o the_o pardon_n of_o your_o sin_n or_o last_o for_o the_o prevention_n of_o any_o evil_n or_o temptation_n of_o what_o kind_n soever_o when_o you_o desire_v any_o of_o these_o mercy_n for_o yourselves_o or_o other_o pray_v to_o your_o heavenly_a father_n for_o they_o 3._o none_o of_o these_o blessing_n must_v be_v ask_v of_o he_o to_o who_o the_o kingdom_n power_n and_o glory_n do_v not_o of_o right_a belong_v for_o this_o be_v add_v as_o the_o cause_n or_o motive_n of_o make_v these_o address_n to_o god_n and_o where_o the_o motive_n or_o cause_n be_v want_v the_o effect_n must_v cease_v now_o to_o god_n only_o the_o kingdom_n power_n and_o glory_n do_v agree_v judas_n 25._o we_o therefore_o must_v address_v our_o prayer_n to_o he_o only_o for_o the_o obtain_n of_o these_o blessing_n and_o lest_o you_o shall_v object_v that_o this_o argument_n exclude_v the_o three_o and_o second_o person_n of_o the_o sacred_a trinity_n let_v it_o be_v note_v that_o all_o the_o schoolman_n do_v affirm_v that_o the_o word_n father_n in_o this_o prayer_n must_v not_o be_v take_v personal_o but_o essential_o and_o so_o exclude_v not_o the_o other_o person_n of_o the_o trinity_n but_o those_o thing_n only_o which_o have_v not_o the_o same_o nature_n with_o they_o 2._o prayer_n offer_v up_o in_o any_o time_n or_o place_n to_o a_o invisible_a and_o for_o any_o thing_n we_o know_v a_o be_v absent_a from_o we_o as_o far_o as_o earth_n from_o heaven_n do_v ascribe_v unto_o that_o be_v the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o secret_n of_o the_o heart_n now_o to_o worship_v any_o be_v whether_o saint_n or_o angel_n with_o such_o a_o kind_n of_o worship_n which_o do_v ascribe_v unto_o it_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o desire_n and_o secret_n of_o the_o heart_n both_o where_o and_o whensoever_o they_o be_v conceive_v or_o utter_v be_v to_o ascribe_v unto_o they_o by_o way_n of_o worship_n what_o be_v not_o due_a to_o saint_n or_o angel_n but_o alone_o to_o god_n as_o have_v be_v prove_v already_o and_o may_v be_v further_o thus_o confirm_v 1._o if_o saint_n depart_v be_v acquaint_v with_o the_o desire_n of_o our_o heart_n why_o do_v elijah_n speak_v unto_o elisha_n thus_o 2.9_o 2_o king_n 2.9_o ask_v what_o thou_o will_v before_o i_o be_o take_v from_o thou_o the_o scripture_n do_v affirm_v that_o he_o be_v take_v up_o into_o the_o heaven_n and_o therefore_o do_v behold_v the_o face_n of_o god_n and_o roman_a catholic_n themselves_o deny_v that_o he_o be_v hold_v in_o limbo_n as_o they_o imagine_v other_o prophet_n be_v be_v in_o heaven_n his_o love_n unto_o elisha_n and_o the_o church_n of_o god_n be_v not_o diminish_v but_o enlarge_v and_o therefore_o upon_o that_o account_n he_o have_v a_o strong_a reason_n to_o ask_v what_o he_o desire_v then_o before_o beside_o the_o prophet_n be_v now_o with_o god_n in_o heaven_n his_o prayer_n will_v more_o effectual_o prevail_v for_o any_o blessing_n for_o his_o friend_n and_o therefore_o he_o have_v great_a reason_n to_o have_v say_v have_v he_o believe_v this_o doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n ask_v what_o thou_o will_v when_v i_o be_o take_v from_o thou_o and_o therefore_o we_o have_v reason_n to_o presume_v that_o he_o do_v not_o believe_v this_o doctrine_n but_o rather_o think_v that_o his_o departure_n will_v render_v all_o elijah_n future_a wish_n and_o add_v ress_n to_o he_o vain_a and_o ineffectual_a 2._o from_o that_o know_a passage_n of_o isaiah_n abraham_n nescivit_fw-la nos_fw-la &_o israel_n ignoravit_fw-la nos_fw-la st._n augustine_n thus_o conclude_v 13._o conclude_v si_fw-mi tanti_fw-la patriarchae_fw-la quid_fw-la erga_fw-la populum_fw-la ex_fw-la his_fw-la procreatum_fw-la ageretur_fw-la ignoraverunt_fw-la quibus_fw-la deo_fw-la credentibus_fw-la populus_fw-la ipse_fw-la ex_fw-la corum_fw-la stirpe_fw-la promissus_fw-la est_fw-la quomodo_fw-la mortui_fw-la suorum_fw-la rebus_fw-la atque_fw-la actubus_fw-la cognoscendis_fw-la adjuvandisque_fw-la miscentur_fw-la ibi_fw-la ergo_fw-la sunt_fw-la spiritus_fw-la defunctorum_fw-la ubi_fw-la non_fw-la vident_fw-la quaecunque_fw-la aguntur_fw-la aut_fw-la eveniunt_fw-la in_o ista_fw-la vita_fw-la hominibus_fw-la de_fw-fr curâ_fw-la pro_fw-la mortuis_fw-la c._n 13._o if_o such_o great_a patriarch_n be_v ignorant_a of_o what_o be_v do_v towards_o the_o people_n that_o proceed_v from_o their_o loin_n how_o shall_v the_o dead_a be_v conversant_a in_o know_v or_o help_v of_o their_o friend_n in_o what_o they_o do_v there_o therefore_o be_v the_o spirit_n of_o dead_a person_n where_o they_o do_v not_o see_v what_o thing_n be_v do_v or_o happen_v to_o man_n in_o this_o life_n 2._o i_o reason_v thus_o this_o practice_n do_v ascribe_v unto_o the_o object_n of_o our_o prayer_n such_o knowledge_n of_o the_o heart_n and_o such_o a_o cognisance_n of_o all_o petition_n present_v to_o they_o at_o all_o time_n and_o in_o all_o place_n of_o the_o world_n which_o we_o have_v prove_v to_o agree_v to_o god_n alone_o or_o such_o a_o presence_n in_o all_o place_n which_o be_v proper_a to_o he_o and_o therefore_o it_o ascribe_v to_o they_o the_o honour_n due_a to_o god_n alone_o 2._o if_o saint_n depart_v do_v know_v the_o mind_n and_o inward_a thought_n of_o those_o who_o put_v up_o their_o petition_n to_o they_o they_o have_v this_o knowledge_n either_o from_o revelation_n or_o from_o the_o beatific_a vision_n but_o they_o have_v no_o such_o knowledge_n either_o from_o revelation_n or_o from_o the_o beatific_a vision_n ergo._n and_o 1._o god_n do_v not_o ordinary_o reveal_v unto_o they_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o heart_n of_o their_o petitioner_n for_o if_o they_o do_v not_o want_v this_o revelation_n god_n who_o do_v nothing_o vain_o must_v not_o be_v suppose_v to_o impart_v it_o but_o these_o bless_a spirit_n do_v not_o want_v it_o for_o do_v they_o need_v this_o revelation_n to_o perceive_v our_o mind_n say_v bellarmine_n the_o church_n will_v not_o so_o confident_o say_v to_o all_o the_o saint_n 2._o votis_n precamur_fw-la cordium_fw-la audite_fw-la preces_fw-la supplicum_fw-la brev._n in_o com._n apost_n p._n 2._o pray_v for_o i_o much_o less_o we_o offer_v to_o you_o the_o desire_n of_o our_o heart_n but_o sometime_o will_v desire_v god_n thus_o to_o reveal_v our_o prayer_n and_o to_o acquaint_v they_o with_o the_o desire_n of_o our_o heart_n 2._o if_o god_n thus_o reveal_v the_o prayer_n of_o the_o petitioner_n to_o the_o decease_a saint_n what_o reason_n can_v be_v give_v say_v the_o forementioned_a author_n why_o all_o the_o holy_a patriarch_n and_o prophet_n be_v not_o invoke_v by_o the_o church_n of_o israel_n before_o our_o saviour_n advent_n and_o he_o have_v reason_n to_o make_v this_o enquiry_n for_o 1._o it_o be_v as_o easy_a to_o almighty_a god_n to_o make_v this_o revelation_n to_o the_o soul_n in_o limbo_n that_o papal_a prison_n of_o the_o ancient_a patriarch_n and_o holy_a prophet_n as_o to_o the_o soul_n in_o heaven_n nor_o have_v we_o one_o example_n or_o declaration_n that_o what_o god_n be_v suppose_v now_o to_o do_v he_o be_v not_o willing_a to_o do_v then_o 2._o certain_a it_o be_v the_o charity_n of_o those_o depart_a patriarch_n and_o prophet_n towards_o their_o relative_n and_o friend_n and_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o god_n must_v be_v exceed_o advance_v by_o their_o change_n they_o must_v be_v more_o the_o friend_n of_o god_n and_o their_o petition_n must_v be_v more_o prevail_a then_o whilst_o they_o do_v continue_v in_o the_o flesh_n wherefore_o the_o jew_n have_v as_o good_a reason_n to_o invoke_v these_o patriarch_n and_o prophet_n as_o have_v the_o romanist_n to_o call_v upon_o the_o christian_a martyr_n and_o god_n have_v equal_a reason_n to_o declare_v this_o be_v the_o duty_n of_o the_o jew_n and_o to_o reveal_v their_o supplication_n to_o the_o patriarch_n as_o to_o
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illa_fw-la de_fw-la cypriani_fw-la macicâ_fw-la arte_fw-la barony_n a.d._n 250._o sect._n 5._o baronius_n himself_o confess_v this_o story_n of_o the_o magic_n of_o st._n cyprian_a to_o be_v explodendam_fw-la fabulam_fw-la now_o hence_o it_o follow_v that_o this_o oration_n be_v not_o the_o genuine_a work_n of_o nazianzen_n or_o else_o that_o nazianzen_n be_v a_o man_n of_o very_o easy_a faith_n one_o prone_a to_o tell_v the_o most_o absurd_a and_o foolish_a sable_n for_o truth_n and_o therefore_o one_o who_o can_v deserve_v no_o credit_n in_o this_o relation_n of_o justina_n prayer_n unto_o the_o bless_a virgin_n such_o three_o be_v the_o passage_n cite_v from_o theodoret_n for_o as_o 198._o as_o disp_n hist_o de_fw-fr invoc_n sanct._n th._n 8._o p._n 198._o vossius_fw-la well_o argue_v have_v that_o book_n be_v he_o nicephorus_n who_o give_v we_o the_o catalogue_n of_o his_o book_n will_v have_v make_v mention_n of_o it_o and_o photius_n when_o he_o make_v mention_n of_o the_o 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nor_o do_v it_o recall_v they_o to_o good_a angel_n but_o to_o jesus_n christ_n 3._o the_o person_n reprehend_v be_v say_v to_o have_v take_v up_o this_o custom_n of_o go_v thus_o to_o good_a daemon_n from_o a_o pretence_n of_o their_o unworthiness_n to_o go_v to_o god_n or_o christ_n immediate_o and_o from_o a_o appearance_n of_o humility_n so_o chrysostome_n theodoret_n and_o other_o but_o to_o expect_v the_o help_n of_o devil_n to_o introduce_v they_o to_o god_n and_o to_o pretend_v humility_n in_o do_v such_o a_o horrid_a act_n be_v to_o be_v guilty_a of_o the_o high_a madness_n 4._o theodoret_n and_o photius_n inform_v we_o that_o they_o who_o bring_v up_o that_o forbid_a practice_n be_v zealous_a for_o the_o law_n now_o that_o most_o strict_o do_v forbid_v the_o worship_n of_o all_o evil_a spirit_n it_o be_v deliver_v not_o by_o they_o but_o by_o the_o bless_a angel_n 4._o that_o which_o be_v here_o forbid_a 4._o §_o 4._o be_v what_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n do_v daily_a practice_n for_o they_o do_v worship_n angel_n say_v the_o roman_a catechism_n 434._o part_n 3._o p._n 434._o this_o be_v and_o have_v be_v their_o perpetual_a custom_n to_o call_v upon_o they_o and_o to_o expect_v their_o help_n and_o patronage_n by_o virtue_n of_o those_o supplication_n hence_o that_o expression_n of_o the_o roman_a missal_n b._n missal_n hos_fw-la fidenter_fw-la deprecemur_fw-la ut_fw-la ab_fw-la ipsis_fw-la adjuvemur_fw-la apud_fw-la deum_fw-la jugiter_fw-la prosa_fw-la ad_fw-la s._n angelos_n f._n 32._o b._n to_o they_o with_o confidence_n let_v we_o pray_v for_o god_n assistance_n every_o day_n they_o do_v expect_v salvation_n from_o their_o intercession_n in_o that_o very_a sense_n in_o which_o theophylact_v assert_n the_o heretic_n expect_v to_o be_v save_v by_o angel_n viz_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o person_n minister_a unto_o our_o introduction_n to_o god_n and_o christ_n hence_o their_o petition_n that_o b._n that_o hostias_fw-la tibi_fw-la domine_fw-la laudis_fw-la offerimus_fw-la suppliciter_fw-la deprecantes_fw-la ut_fw-la easdem_fw-la angelico_n interveniente_fw-la suffragio_fw-la &_o placatus_fw-la accipta_fw-la &_o ad_fw-la salutem_fw-la nostram_fw-la provenire_fw-la concedas_fw-la missa_fw-la votiva_fw-la de_fw-la angelis_n p._n 5.36_o ed._n aut._n fol._n gaudium_fw-la erit_fw-la tibi_fw-la angelo_n dei_fw-la super_fw-la i_o peccatore_fw-la tuis_fw-la intercessionibus_fw-la deum_fw-la obtinente_fw-la missa_fw-la in_o honorem_fw-la proprii_fw-la angelif_n 16._o b._n ed._n antuerp_n so._n 1577._o angelorum_fw-la concio_fw-la sacra_fw-la &_o archangelorum_fw-la turma_fw-la inclyta_fw-la nostra_fw-la diluant_fw-la jam_fw-la peccata_fw-la praestando_fw-la superacaeli_fw-la gaudia_fw-la prosa_fw-la de_fw-la omnibus_fw-la sanctis_fw-la ibid._n f._n 33._o b._n by_o the_o intercession_n of_o the_o bless_a angel_n they_o may_v obtain_v god_n favour_n and_o may_v be_v bring_v to_o life_n eternal_a if_o then_o that_o invocation_n which_o be_v here_o forbid_a be_v idolatry_n the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n must_v be_v so_o too_o 5._o this_o invocation_n of_o the_o bless_a angel_n 6._o §._o 6._o be_v express_o say_v to_o be_v idolatry_n and_o therefore_o if_o it_o be_v not_o true_o so_o this_o synod_n and_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n must_v be_v pronounce_v false_a accuser_n now_o of_o this_o enormity_n they_o can_v not_o just_o be_v accuse_v for_o desert_v christ_n for_o notwithstanding_o this_o they_o do_v not_o look_v upon_o those_o angel_n they_o invoke_v as_o god_n but_o as_o inferior_a creature_n and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o preson_n instrumental_a and_o subservient_fw-fr unto_o our_o introduction_n to_o god_n and_o therefore_o think_v we_o shall_v procure_v god_n favour_n by_o the_o mean_n of_o angel_n because_o that_o god_n himself_o be_v not_o to_o be_v approach_v or_o apprehend_v and_o because_o christ_n be_v so_o exalt_v that_o they_o dare_v not_o make_v their_o immediate_a address_n to_o he_o now_o to_o think_v christ_n great_a than_o that_o we_o sinful_a creature_n shall_v make_v address_n to_o he_o make_v some_o show_n of_o our_o humility_n but_o can_v possible_o be_v charge_v with_o idolatry_n for_o shall_v any_o man_n conceive_v himself_o unworthy_a to_o appear_v before_o god_n or_o look_v upon_o he_o as_o unaccessable_a by_o one_o of_o so_o defile_v a_o spirit_n and_o therefore_o shall_v entreat_v the_o prayer_n of_o his_o pious_a neighbour_n we_o may_v conclude_v that_o he_o be_v very_o ignorant_a and_o vain_a in_o his_o imagination_n but_o can_v not_o thence_o conclude_v that_o he_o be_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n and_o so_o the_o reader_n see_v that_o notwithstanding_o these_o mistake_n of_o the_o angelick_n the_o church_n of_o rome_n have_v no_o wrong_n do_v they_o when_o we_o charge_v their_o invocation_n of_o the_o bless_a angel_n with_o idolatry_n for_o if_o the_o invocation_n of_o they_o when_o absent_a be_v not_o guilty_a of_o this_o crime_n these_o by-mistakes_a can_v never_o make_v it_o guilty_a of_o that_o imputation_n beside_o the_o synod_n and_o theodoret_n do_v put_v a_o clear_a distinction_n betwixt_o these_o two_o particular_n which_o by_o the_o exposition_n of_o the_o roman_a doctor_n be_v confound_v and_o make_v to_o signify_v the_o same_o viz._n desertion_n of_o christ_n and_o be_v guilty_a of_o idolatry_n by_o pray_v to_o the_o bless_a angel_n as_o be_v apparent_a from_o this_o expression_n of_o theodoret_n the_o synod_n of_o laodicea_n make_v a_o law_n that_o christian_n shall_v not_o pray_v to_o angel_n nor_o forsake_v the_o lord_n christ_n whosoever_o do_v such_o thing_n say_v they_o accurse_a let_v he_o be_v because_o he_o have_v desert_v christ_n and_o give_v up_o himself_o unto_o idolatry_n last_o we_o do_v not_o find_v that_o they_o do_v so_o reject_v or_o desert_n christ_n as_o to_o deny_v his_o intercession_n in_o the_o heaven_n but_o only_o upon_o this_o account_n because_o they_o do_v not_o make_v immediate_a address_n to_o he_o for_o as_o st._n paul_n assert_n