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A14347 A discourse or traictise of Petur Martyr Vermilla Flore[n]tine, the publyque reader of diuinitee in the Vniuersitee of Oxford wherein he openly declared his whole and determinate iudgemente concernynge the sacrament of the Lordes supper in the sayde Vniuersitee.; Tractatio de sacramento eucharistiae. English Vermigli, Pietro Martire, 1499-1562.; Udall, Nicholas, 1505-1556. 1550 (1550) STC 24665; ESTC S119144 134,300 226

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