A TESTIMONY For the MAN Christ Jesus REPELLING The POYSON FALLACY of William Haworth's pretended Antidote against the Quakers From the People of QUAKERS at HERTFORD Jer. 23. 32. And they cause my People to Err by their Lyes and by their Lightness Printed in the Year 1676. A TESTIMONY For the Man Christ Jesus c. UPon perusal of William Haworth's late Pamphlet we find that it consists chiefly of Matter of Charge aggravated by reviling and of Answers to some Objections of his own framing to render the Quakers infamous and odious In both which we shall very briefly and perspicuously manifest his gross Abuse and Fallacy His Title is An Antidote against that Poysonous and Fundamental Error of the Quakers This makes a huge Bluster but what 's that Poysonous and fundamental Error he charges the Quakers with It is no less then Denying the same Numerical True Real Manhood of Jesus Christ in Heaven a place remote from the earth A sad Charge that makes an hideous Out-cry But the Quakers utterly deny the Matter charged not doubting but their Credit will go as far at least as Will Haworth's and farther then his Reviling to Aggravate in these words viz. That we should live to see the Day wherein so many Thousands pretending Christianity in this Nation should be so brazen-foreheaded as to disown Jesus of Nazareth to be the Messiah yet so it is O Tempora O Mores and farther adds These Damnable Delusions The man Christ is struck at by ungodly Seducers c. Epistle That the Quakers may not deceive you by their Juggles p. 3. Jesuitical Insinuations p. 20. How can the Quakers be Christians p. 15. Had Will. Haworth seriously considered that no Revilers shall inherit the Kingdom of God I Cor. 6. 10. and that all Lyars must have their Portion in the Lake he would have forborn this kind of treating us Here is a two fold Charge first denying the same true and real Manhood of Jesus Christ in Heaven c. 2dly Disowning Jesus of Nazareth to be the Messiah with his aggravating Exclamations against the Quakers both which are not only utterly denyed by the Quakers but also the said W. Haworth therein testified against as a disingenuous Person not so much as citing the Quakers words at the Dispute he mentions but from his own prejudiced Conceptions writes against us that wherein he is a manifest Slanderer and Forger and so led by a Lying Spirit For what 's his Proof or Quotation for such his Charge of denying the real Manhood of Jesus Christ or him to be the Messiah To make out this he tells his Much Honoured Friend Sr. John Hartop in these plain words viz. Sr. That which gave the Occasion of my Thoughts pitching upon this subject matter viz. Christ's Manhood in Heaven was that Dispute between Mr. Hicks and Mr. Penn at London concerning the same I being there present am satisfied by the Quakers fallacious Mannagement of that Discourse that they Deny the same Numerical True and Real Manhood of Christ in Heaven c. See now his pretended Proof of his great Charge is his own meer Opinion from that Dispute but whether herein he has not apparently acted the part of a Forger let all that impartially read the Account ‖ Which was published by Will. Mead Io. Osgood will Shewen Ed. Man Sa. Newton Ja. Claypool Will Welch who with many hundreds more can testifie to the Truth thereof and against Will Haworth's gross Abuse and Fallacy of that said Dispute between the Quakers and Baptists at Barbican judge See p. 26 of the Account where W. Penn speaks in the Name or Person of the Quakers thus viz. We do believe the Man Christ Jesus to be glorified in Heaven We do believe that holy Manhood to be in Heavenly Glory c. See now how far the Quakers are from denying the true real Manhood of Christ in Heaven or disowning Jesus of Nazareth to be the Messiah And therefore how guilty this Priest is of Forgery and manifest Slander herein The matter which he saith we deny being so openly by us confest at the same Dispute aforesaid only his artificial Term Numerical and his Addition of A PLACE REMOTE FROM THE EARTH were not the Terms of the Question at that Dispute he hath framed these since neither can we yet understand what Weight or Plainness his Logical Term Numerical addeth to the same True and real Manhood of Christ which we so plainly confessing We do believe the Man Christ Iesus to be glorified in Heaven was by judicious Hearers judged a sufficient Answer to the Question as then stated And as to his Addition of Place remote from the Earth we further add and confess that the same MAN Christ Jesus that suffered and was put to Death in the Flesh and raised from the Dead by the mighty Power of God ascended into Heaven God's Dwelling place ascended both as to a Change of Place State of Glory he is highly exalted in Power and Authority Angels Authorities and Powers being made subject unto him 1 et 3. 22. Being the Head of his Body the Church the Beginning the first born from the dead that in all things he might have the Preeminence Col. 1. 17. The God of our Father raised up Jesus whom ye slew and hanged on a Tree him hath God exalted with his right Hand to be a Prince and a S. A. VIOUR to give Repentance to Israel and Forgiveness of Sins Acts 5 30 31. So that the Power and Authority wherein he is exalted is both to be a Prince and a Saviour and to give Gifts and to be Head of his Body the Church in all Things to have the Preeminence and therefore this Exaltation and Power was not that he might remain in a Place remote and separate from his Body the Church which he is the Head of for that were to keep the Body and Head assunder so far remote from each other and then how should it be a Living Body or united to him page 10. whereas the Son of God had Power not only to ascend far above all Heavens but also to descend at his Pleasure to come again as he promised to be with his Disciples alway to the End having all Power in Heaven and in Earth given to him Mat. 28. John 14. Yet that Jesus Christ is now a true real Man in the Heavens is not deayed by the Quakers as this Opposer most falsly accuseth them page 2 but his Conclusion that therefore Jesus Christ is not here on Earth as he is Man but as to his Manhood only in Heaven a Place remote from us page 2 3. whilest he thus defines his Manhood viz. a Consisting of Soul and Body and that this Soul is in Heaven which he confesseth to be his Spirit from Luke 23. 46. By this Man's Limitation Jesus Christ not only as to his bodily Presence but also as to his Spiritual is not here on Earth in his Church And
14. 2 3. the same Man Christ that said I go to prepare a Place for you said also If I go and prepare a Place for you I will come again and receive you unto my self that where I am there ye may be also verse 18. I will not leave you comfortless I will come to you and ver 19. Yet a little while and the World seeth me no more but ye see me because I live ye shall live also And verâ—e 20. At that Day ye shall know that I am in my Father and ye in me I in you And was not this the Man Christ Jesus that spake these things who also said No Man hath ascended up to Heaven but he which came down from Heaven even the Son of Man which is in Heaven John 3. 13. Now if it be said that the Son of man was spiritually in Heaven when on Earth then may it not as well be said that the Son of man is spiritually on Earth in his Saints when in Heaven seeing all Power in Heaven and in Earth is given to the Son And the Father hath given him Power over all Flesh that he should give Eternal Life to as many as the Father hath given him John 17. 2. He is ascended far above all Heavens that he might fill all things Ephes 4. 10. And what Place went he to prepare for his but such a Place in and with himself as that where he is there they might be also John 14. 3. where the Saints were made to sit together in the Heavenly Places in Christ Jesus And our Conversation is in Heaven from whence also we look for a Saviour the Lord Jesus Christ Phil. 3. 20. And of his coming again the Apostles had signal Evidences who BY HIM wrought Miracles even by HIM whom the Men of Israel delivered up and denyed in the Presence of Pilate By this HOLY ONE this Prince of Life whom God raised from the dead were the Lame healed Acts 3. 11 16. chap. 4 10 By the Name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth whom ye crucified whom God raised from the dead even by HIM doth this man stand before you whole And ver 30. That Signs and Wonders may be done by the Name of thy holy Child Jesus whom thou hast anointed Ver 17. This Iesus hath God raised up whereof we are all Witnesses Acts 2. 32. Therefore being by the Right Hand of God exalted and having received of the Father the Promise of the holy Ghost he hath shed forth this which ye now see and hear ver 33. And Acts 5. 32. Him hath God exalted with his Right Hand to be a Prince and a Saviour for to give Repentance to Israel and Forgiveness of Sins God having raised up his Son Jesus SENT HIM to bless you in turning away every one of you from his Iniquities Acts 3. 26. Now having thus plainly confessed to the Resurrection Exaltation Work of the same Iesus of Nazareth that was crucified let us briefly take Notice of what W. H. saith about Stephen and Paul's seeing of Jesus Christ and of the Properties of his Manhood After he hath told us they saw him with their CARNAL EYES when he was taken up into Heaven on Acts 1. 11. he cites Acts 7. 56. Behold I see the Heavens opened and saith Stephen's fight was strengthned after a wonderful miraculous Way so that he pierced to the very Heavenly Glory with his Eye this is more then what was Natural no Doubt for the other that stood by saw nothing but he saw as much of the Heavenly Glory as he could bear page 4. and in page 6. concerning the Glorious Body of Christ he saith It is NOW since the Ascension the Object of Sense it hath been seen with the Bodily Eye and may be seen Stephen its Evident saw the Body of Christ and Paal saw him with his BODILY EYE * Doth the Scripture say so for that cited doth not 1 Cor. 15. 8. last of all I saw him That Stephen saw the Heavens opened and Jesus standing at the right hand of God is true but that he saw him then with his carnal or bodily Eyes when this was more then what was Natural doth not appear to be sound or congruous Doctrine especially since W. H. confesseth on Ephes 4. 10. That therefore Christ as to his Manhood is not in any of these visible Heavens for he passed through these and went into that INVISIBLE most supream Heaven the Heaven of Heavens far above the other Heavens Psal 68. He ascended on high far above all Heavens that is all heavenly Powers of Angelical Nature and Perfection he is above them pag. 8. Whereas the Ground of Stephen's seeing the Heavens opened and Jesus on the right hand of God was on his being full of the holy Ghost and not on his Carnal or Bodily Eyes he being FULL OF THE HOLY GHOST looked up stedfastly into heaven and saw the GLORY OF GOD and Jesus standing on the Right Hand of God and said Behold I see the Heavens opened and the Son of Man standing on the right hand of God Acts 7. 55 56. And likewise when John was in the Spirit on the Lord's Day he saw the seven Golden Candlesticks and in the midst thereof One like unto the Son of man c. Rev. 1. 12 13. which seven Candlesticks were the seven Churches of Asia that he wrote unto which surely were then upon Earth But to Place all this sight upon carnal and bodily Eyes is all one as if he should tell us that Stephen with his carnal and bodily Eyes saw the invisible and supream Heaven opened yea and that with the same carnal or bodily Eyes he saw the GLORY of God also for it s said he saw the Glory of God and Jesus standing on the right hand of God and this renders both the Glory of God and his right hand also obvious and visible to the carnal Eyes you may see what mean and carnal Thoughts this man hath of God and Christ the Glory of God Whereas in page 6. William Haworth saith concerning the Manhood or Body of Christ It hath the same Form and Figure that it had when here upon Earth else how could the Disciples know him after the Resurrection and yet in the same page saith It is a very GLORIOUS Body PHIl 3. Like unto his glorious Body How gloriously it is represented and painted out to us by Daniel and John in the Revelations more Bright then a Thousand Suns Answ Is it so How then hath it the same Form and Figure it had when here upon Earth Or how is it seen with carnal Eyes if so glorious and in the invisible and most suppeam Heaven And was it thus bright and glorious more then a Thousand Suns when here upon Earth subject to Suffering surely this man intrudes into that which he hath not seen Was the Body of Christ while upon Earth in that State so glorious as now That is more bright then a Thousand Suns
when he was apprehended crowned with Thorns and condemned to dy upon the Cross If so whâ—re it 's said in that Place cited Phil. 3. 21. Who shall change our vâ—le Body that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious Body this is only to be understood that our Body shall be fashioned like to the Body of Christ when upon Earth wherein he was made like to his Brethren and that is as good Sense as to say we shall be fashioned like unto what we are Where then is the Change But if we shall be changed as to our low Body and be fashioned into a glorious and spiritual State then is Christ as to his Body changed or translated into a far more glorious State then what it had upon Earth But this man's concluding That the Disciples knew him after his Resurrection because his Manhood had the same Form and Figure that it had before In this he talks like one ignorant of the Scriptures for after his Resurrection he appeared in divers Forms as After that he appeared unto two of them in another Form Mark 16. 12. Mary Magdalen supposed him to have been the Gardiner John 20. 14 15. And sometimes he was unknown and doubted of by his Disciples Luke 24. 16. ver 37. 41. and twice he appeared in the midst of them the Doors being shut John 20. 19 26. was there no Change then as to his Body from what it was before put to death before which time he was also transfigured in the Mount Mat. 17. 2. Thus the mighty Power of God appeared in his Change after diverse and wonderful manners beyond the Reach of humane Capacity to comprehend therefore to confine him now to the same Form and Figure is W. H. his Conceit and Imâ—gination wherein he intrudes into things he never saw And as for his uncouth and unscriptural Talk that the Saints ought to worship the Humane Nature of Christ and that this humane Nature as such as giveth Life unto our souls p. 67. We need take little notice of such Language Did not Christ say I am the Living Bread which came down from Heaven if any man ate of this Bread he shall live forever and the Bread which I will give is my Flesh which I will give for the Life of the World John 6. 51. for that his Flesh that gives Life is himself As for those Objections against the Man Christ his being in Heaven in p. 8 9. They are of W. Haworth's own framing and not the Quakers however he would place them upon us where in he hath dealt very disingenuously and dishonestly and as a meer Forger For where did the Quakers ever thus argue viz. Object The Apostle saith Ephes 4. 10. That he ascended far above all Heavens therefore Christ is not in Heaven in his MANHOOD Let him shew us that Book and Page of ours or Dispute wherein we have this Argument or Objection if he can Again When and where did ever the Quakers thus argue viz. Christ said to his Disciples I am with you alway even to the End of the World Mat. 28. 20 HOW THEN CAN HE BE IN HEAVEN Let W. H. produce us that Book and Page of ours that hath this Inference in it if he can or else be ashamed with such Forgery to bespatter us Again it s said 1 Cor. 15. Flesh and Blood cannot enter unto the Kingdom of Heaven where do the Quakers argue from hence that therefore Christ is not there as to his Manhood Let him produce Book and Page for this or forever be ashamed His Reasons to prove Christ now a Man in heaven do not reach us nor touch us the thing not being denyed but really believed and confessed unto by us in the True Spiritual and Scripture Sense thereof so that we have no need of his weak and confused Reasons to convince us And now farther to manifest how like a Confused and Distempered or Crazed Man W. H. writes take a short View of some of his Inconsistencies in â—is Postscript against Chr. Taylor C. T. having pleaded the Innocencv of Infants in the Womb as not condemnable for the Sin of the first Parents c. W. H. in his pursuing his Charge against all Infants as having the Original Sin of the first Adam upon them that had not actually sinned or transgressed p. 17. wherein having shewed a great deal of Ignorance and Hardness not worth our Labour to ansswer he citeth Ephes 2. 3. And were by Nature Children of Wrath i. e. saith he by Birth Parent Original c. C. T. saying They condemn the Innocent that is upon their Predestinarian Principle To this W. H. reflects thus viz. Let the Reader judge if in this he writes not too much like an Innocent but this is the Fruit of following the Light Within and for saking the Scriptures Nature will never discover its own Guilt and Desilement and the Light Within that every man hath is no more then Nature pag. 17. See here how he makes no better account of the Light in man then of Corrupt Sinful Nature making them both one so putting no Difference between the Precious and the Vile But in plain Contradiction to this he confesseth That the Scripture saith this Light within every man is nothing but the Law of Moses written in the Heart of Man Rom. 2. 15. which shews the Work of the Law written in their Hearts pag. 18. Do but see now how like a Mad Man he has written one while to account the Light in man no more then Nature which is sinful and by which men are Children of Wrath and that the following thereof makes a man write like an Innocent that is an Idiot or Fool when presently after he is made to confess That this Light in man is the Law of Moses written in the Heart of Man Again As he has manifested his Madness against the Light within so he hath against the Works done by the Spirit of God after he â—ath falsly accused the Quakers of going about of set up their own Righteousness he proceeds thus viz. on Rom. 4. 6. even as David also describeth the Blessedness of the man unto whom God imputeth Righteousness without Works What Works done by the Spirit surely saith he for such were David's Works And further proceeds Did not Isaiah observe Moses's Law in the Spirit and yet in that place of Isaiah 64. 3. calls it filthy Raggs as to Iustification And did not Paul observe Moses's Law in the Letter and Spirit when a Christian And he counted all things Loss for the Excellency of the Knowledge of Iesus and then surely his Observance of the Law of Moses in the spirit in point of Iustification this but his own Righteousnesss pag. 18. But pray read Paul's own words Phil. 3. 7 8 9. Is it good Doctrine to say That Paul when Christian counted his spiritual Obedience to the Law of God in spirit Loss and Dung for Christ and that as a Christian he must suffer the