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A44504 Truth's triumph over deceit, or, A further demonstration that the people called Quakers be deceivers, and such as people ought to accompt accursed in their doctrines and principles in vindication of a former proof of that charge, made good against them, from the sorry shifts and evasions from it, and cavils of George Whitehead against it, in a pamphlet of his, called The Quakers no deceivers / written by John Horne ... as a further preservation of people from following any of their pernitious principles ... Horn, John, 1614-1676. 1660 (1660) Wing H2810; ESTC R41721 58,074 54

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Pharisees rejected the counsel of God and were not baptized of him Mat. 3.5 6. with Luke 7.30 I distinguished the people both from his friends and our selves but are his friends no sober minded men that they are distinguished from them I speak of the generality of the people if there were one or two did otherwise it 's more then I observed To that of 1 John 5.1 Whosoever believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God he cavils that I did it without understanding and without distinction whereas it was his part being the answer to have distinguished if he understood any ground for it and not mine who was opponent but something he will say though to no purpose how much more truly might I have said what he charges me with of the generality of his own quotations in his answer as that in 2 Sam. 22. 1 Joh. 3.9 and 1 John 4.17 and yet when in my postscript I distinguished of that in 1 John 3.9 He snatches at the first part of my distinction viz. that whosoever is perfectly born of God as the spirits of just men made perfect and the men themselves in the Resurrection cannot sin at all but none so perfectly born of God here taking no notice of the other propositions that speak of men as here born of God and then cries out Oh what pittiful stuffe is here to imagine men are not perfectly born of God so as not to sin till deceased this would make the worke of God imperfect here when all his works are perfeci then taxes me as if I had said that those that were born of God in the Apostles daies were some that were deceased and risen again Whereas I in the other part of the distinction shewed how those that are born of God while here may be said not to sin and that they cannot sin but why is it such pittifull stuffe to say that the spirits of just men deceased the men themselves when raised are or shall be more perfectly born of God the while here living do they gain no degree of perfection by death where then is the advantage they have by it Nor shall they gain none in the resurrection neither when seeing him as he is they shall be like him 1 John 3.2 or have the present propositions of truth all their fulfilling at the present He that hath the Son hath life 1 John 5.12 Have they not so that are deceased in him and shall they not have him and life more fully in the resurrection if G. believe it And why must the work of God be imperfect if men be not perfectly born of God here was the work of God all whose works are perfect imperfect when Paul said not that I am already perfect or have already attained Philip. 3.12 or because the Fathers dyed in the faith not having received the promises God having provided some better thing for us that they without us should not be made perfect Heb. 11.39 Were the works of God therefore imperfect till these last ages If so then why not so too till the resurrection If they were perfect alwaies and in all generations then mens not being perfectly born of God while here hinders not their perfection no more then Pauls or the Fathers being not perfect did Surely G. W. is very silly if he think as he writ here and a very deceiver if he thought otherwise and they be simple that are catcht with such chaff or worthy to be blind still that will not see it but let us see what distinction he hath devised upon 1 John 5.1 to save his credit He saies It 's true according to Johns testimony of a true believer who by faith hath victory over the world and so being born of God is not under the bondage of corruption c. But such he saies I. H. doth not own while men are here Folly and falsehood folly for he implies that Johns saying is not true without distinction and yet John said it without distinction for he said not whosoever so or so believeth that Jesus is the Christ but in general expressions whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God True it is that he saies ver 4. whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world and this is the victory that overcometh the world even our faith but then in ver 5. he explicates what their faith was answerable to ver 1. saying who is he that overcometh the world but he that believes that Jesus is the Son of God which is all one with whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ clearly fignifying that he that believeth that is born of God and so overcometh the world even the spirit rudiments and pollutions of the world so as none else and that they who believe not that is with their heart believe not that Jesus even that Jesus of Nazareth whom the Jews crucified bodily and God raised from the dead for hesides him the Apostles did preach no other Jesus name or thing within men or without men to be the Saviour or salvation of God to be believed on Acts 4.10 11 12. is the Christ the Son of God the Saviour of the world the annointed one to bring us back to God the propitiation for our sins the righteousnesse and life given us of God I say he implies that they who believe not him to be the Christ or annointed Saviour in and through what he hath done and suffered for us in the body of his flesh and is become for us therethrough and is doing for us in heaven on Gods right hand as the great Mediator and high Priest for us and from heaven to and in us as the great Apostle and Prophet of our profession and Lord of all and in what he is appointed to do and will do at his glorious descent from heaven and appearing and kingdome then to be revealed in glory they have not nor do overcome the world But whatever be their pretences and appearances to men of being out of and above the world they are overcome of the world and are in the worlds state being led of and by the god of the world and rudiments of it which lead men that seek after righteousness and hope toward God to seek it in themselves and their doings mortifications and frames but not to go out of themselves into Christ and his name to accept of him even that Jesus of Nazareth as made sin for them and raised again for their justification and glorified at Gods right hand for their wisdome righteousnesse holynesse and redemption and so to have their rejoycing in him and expectation from him and of him at his appearing they who have so received him and abide in him are indeed born of God and have overcome the world But they that do not so receive him are in and of the world who neglecting him and counting faith in him foolishnesse live and rejoice in their own good meanings honesty zeal blamelesnesse mortifications