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A66855 A declaration to the Baptists concerning the name of the Lord, and what it is to be baptized thereinto, and the nature of the Lord, and what it is to be made partaker thereof : and sheweth that none can be saved, but such as are baptized into the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, into which name and nature, the apostles were sent to baptize, and not into water : shewing also, that the apostles were made the administrators of the Spirits baptism ... : also a discovery of the Baptists foundation ... / written by one who was sometimes one with them in the shadows ... but have now found the day wherein the shadows flee away, and hath received another name besides Humphry Wollrich. Wollrich, Humphry, 1633?-1707. 1659 (1659) Wing W3290; ESTC R39137 27,678 39

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and the three last verses and Jesus came and spake unto them saying All power is given unto me in Heaven and Earth Go ye therefore and teach all Nations baptising them in the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost teaching them to observe and to do all things whatsoever I command you and Lo I am with you alwayes unto the end of the Word where there need not that any man teach them and this you are crying up to be water who have lost the Name and power of the Lord which should lead you and guide you into the Scriptures of Truth and instead of this name which is but one and this body which is but one into which bodie the Saints was Baptised into the body by one spirit Ephe. 4.5 whether they were Jewes or Greek bound or free and was made to drink into one spirit and in stead of this name ye have got the beasts names and the beasts doctrines which are Doctrines of Devils and names of blasphemy and this in particular I charge upon ye all in presence of the Lord and by the power of the Lord God Rev. 17.3 who are crying up water and preaching up water in stead of the Name of the Lord God to be a Doctrine of Devils for Christ sent not his Disciples to baptize with water but to preach and to baptize in the Name which Name of the Lord consists not in words and sillables 1 Cor. 17.1 but in purity Righteousnesse and holinesse and is the Divine nature and the Name of the Lord as you may read Exod. 34.5 And the Lord descended in the cloud and stood with him there and proclaimed the Name of the Lord and the Nature of the Lord and the Lord passed by him and proclaimed the Lord the Lord God merciful and gracions long suffering and abundant in goodness and truth keeping mercy for thousands forgiving iniquity transgression and sin and this is the Name of the Lord and the Nature of the Lord and besides this there is not another name whereby man can be saved but the Name of Jesus Acts 4.11 But alas alas how doth this stagger ye and how are you in your inventions seeking to find it out in your own wisdom are Judging and Condemning them as that Generation did in all Ages Condemning the Children of the Lord who had made the Name of the Lord their Tower and were led by the Spirit of the Lord as Deceivers Blasphemers and Seducers and so he who is the Lord our Righteousness and the Foundation of many Generations both he his Name which ye are gone from is become the stone of stumbling and the Rock of offence and set at naught by you builders of Babylon and so all in the fear of the Lord God who are crying up water and setting upwater in stead of the Name of the Lord God honestly sink down to the light of Christ who is the true light and lighteth every man that comes into the world and ye shall see ye have not as yet so much as known the Name of the Lord nor heard thereof but by the hearing with the carnal ear as they who were Baptized with water had not so much as heard whether there were a Holy Ghost as ye may read Acts 19.2 to the 7. verse When they heard this they were Baptized in the Name of the Lord Jesus but how should it be otherwise with you who are yet in the worlds fashions customs and who is so blind as he that is perfect in ye in whom the god of this world hath blinded the eye which should be your leader teacher and instructor and leadeth in the way of Righteousness and causeth all that follow him to inherit substance he it is who is the Light of the world and is not of the world but leadeth all that follow him out of the world its friendships fashions and customs which ye are in and yet say you are separated from them and say you are Jewes and are not but are of the synagogue of Sathan and are found Blasphemers therein and thus ye have set up the Idol in your hearts and put the stumbling block of Iniquity before my face saith the Lord God and turned away the face of mine Annointed and have cast the Law of the Lord behinde your backs and have rejected the Light of the Lord in you which is the Word of the Lord and know not God Christ nor his Spirit but in your thoughts where God is not to be found and therein have ye imagined a God above the Clouds and afar off but know not the Christ who is the express Image of the Fathers person to reveal the Father in you even he who is born of the Spirit and is Spirit and the onely begotten of the Spirit the Glory of him I say you are changeing in your vain Imaginations into the glory of a corruptible man Rom. 1.21 to the end read your state there And you are speaking of a Christ some of you of five foot long and asking how he can dwell in a man calling it blasphemy to say that Christ which suffered at Jerusalem of five foot long can be in a man thus you are in your imaginations and therein have set up a carnal Christ in your carnal minds but to this day are altogether ignorant as Philip was John 3.8 Read and understand John 14.8 if you have an ear to hear what the Spirit saith and see how you are gazing and are at a loss as the men of Galilee were while the vail is over your hearts and the Cloud hath taken him out of your sight and the are you scattered upon all the dark mountains of Israel and have wandred from the Lord the living Fountain and are like Noahs Dove tossed upon the waters and knowes not a resting place for the sole of your foot Therefore all Return Return to the light of the Lord in your Consciences that you may feel a Rock to stay and lean upon and he is not far from any of you there is none of you need to say who shall descend or ascend to fetch him up from beneath or bring him down from above but what saith it the word is nigh thee in thy heart that thou mayest obey it and do it and this is your fallen estate saith the Lord God which know not Christ in you the hope of glory Even the same that was before the world was one with the Father and filleth Heaven earth and was never seen with any carnal eye nor his voice heard by any carnal ear but in the pure eternal unchangeable light is he revealed and seen more and more as it is written Psal 36.9 For with thee is the Fountain of life in thy light shall we see light and so the way of the Just and the seed of the Just which is as a grain of Mustard seed is as a shining light that shineth more and more
the Name of the Father Son and of the Holy Ghost teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you and lo I am with you alwayes even unto the end of the World Fifthly You say the commission must needs be water and not the Spirit because it was onely the work of Christ and not the Apostles work to administer the Holy Ghost and Iohn Gosnel in the second page of his book doth conclude that the Baptisme here instituted is with water for the Baptisme of the spirit saith he was never administred by man but Christ was the Minister of it himself Ans To which I say read the words of the commission again and there you shall find that Christ doth commission them to Baptize in the Name of the Father Son and Holy Ghost and not into the water 6. And yet so blind are ye as to say this was not the Apostles work neither was it in mans power say you to administer the Holy Ghost Ans To which I say Christ did nothing of himself and all power which he had was of the Father and removed from the Father vers the 18th And greater works then these shall ye do because I go to my Father saith Christ and read Acts. 8. and there you shall find that the Apostles vers 17 18. were the onely administrators of the Holy Ghost not by any power of their own but by the power which Christ received of his Father and gave unto them Then laid they their hands on them and they received the Holy Ghost read Acts. 19.6 when Paul had laid his hands upon them the Holy Ghost came upon them And you do not read in all the Scriptures that Christ did thus act But he made his Apostles the administrators thereof and Iohn Gosnel in his 41 page saith thus That the Baptism of the spirit is expressed by the pouring forth of the spirit both in the Old and New Testament and that he confesseth is upon all his sons and daughters and upon all flesh and he proves this Ioel. 2.28 29. And yet before in his Book saith the Baptism of the Spirit fell onely on some few at the first but Paul saith that both Jew and Greek Bond and Free were all Baptized by one Spirit into one Body and were all made to drink into one Spirit and thus it fals upon thee that which thou art charging upon some others Esa 24. They have transgressed the Law and changed the Ordinance which I say is Everlasting and a storng Tower to his people and the Saviour and Tried-stone to all that trust in him and in stead thereof ye have set up that unstable water and a carnal Ordinance of your own invention and divers washings which all must perish in the using after the commandments and doctrines of men Col. 2. Seventhly You say that the Bible on the Letter is the Judge of the Spirits Answ To which I say you who have lost the Spirit of the Lord and know not Christ to whom all Judgment is committed must needs erre in Judgement and stumble in vision and put light for darkness and darkness for light and set up a carnal thing in stead of the invisible and unchangeable God and so by the Spirit of the Lord God you who are for Judgement are Judged and by that which you say is your Rule and Judge are Condemned 1 Cor. 2.15 1 John 4.1 4. and John 5.22 Eighthly You say that the Letter is the Sword of the Spirit Answ You who have lost the Word of the Lord and the Light of the Lord which is the Armour of God know not the Sword of Spirit which is the Word of God which is quick and powerful and sharper then any two edged sword and preceedeth out of the mouth of the Lamb Kev 19.15 Ephes 6.17 Ninthly You say that the Letter was the onely weapon wherewith Christ fought and overcame the Devil Answ You who have lost the Spirit of the Lord know no other but a carnal weapon to fight with but the Saints who are guided by the Spirit of the Lord said that theirs were not carnal but Spiritual and mighty through the power of God to the pulling down of every high thought 2 Cor. 10.4 5. And they said they were not Ministers of the Letter but of the Spirit and that is the Reason of all your haling and pulling of all your lies and slanders which ye are forced to use to defend your form but know not the Armour of God nor the sword of the Spirit which is the Word of God to defend you and overcome withal Epes 6.11 14. 2 Cor. 3.6 Tenthly You say the Letter is the Law the Testimony and the Light Answ All this is contrary to the Scriptures which you say is your guide for they say Christ is the true Light that lighteth every man that cometh into the World John 1.9 John 8.12 And thy Law is Light sayes Solomon Prov. 6.23 And the Testimony of Jesus is the Spirit of Prophecy Rev. 19.10 Eleventhly You say it was not the work of Christ or his Apostles to turn any to the Light within Answ Read the Scripture which ye so condemn us for denying and ye may see that ye are they which deny them and not we Acts 26.18 2 Cor. 4.4 6. where you may read that Paul said I was sent to turn them from the darkness to light from the power of Satan unto God and told them that the light which did shine in their hearts must give them the knowledge of God in the face of Jesus Christ 2 Cor. 4.6 Twelfthly That the Bible is the Living Word of God and able to make a man Wise unto Salvation Answ To which I say All that are in their sins as ye are know not Christ the living Word and to me it is not a wonder to hear you call that living which is dead and cannot give life nor power over sin but the Scripture doth affirm that Christ is the Word and that it is he that ever liveth and is made a high Priest by the power of a life that hath no end and this is he that liveth and abideth for ever read Iohn 1. ● 3. Heb. 7.9 16. 1 Iohn 5.22 Thirteenthly You say that it is false doctrine to say that he that is born of God sinneth not Answ To you which know not the living and immortal Word it is and alwayes was by such and to such as you are who are Reprobates concerning the Faith which should purifie you but to the Children of the Lord this was never false doctrine for they said he that was born of God sinneth not 1 Iohn 3.6 10. Fourteenthly Yon say that the Bible is the Gospel and the power of God Answ To this I say Christ was the power of God and Wisdom of God and the Rock of all his people in all ages and the Foundation of the Prophets and Apostles and to us he is the same as he was to them in all ages even the power of God to Salvation Rom. 1.16 And so all that are honest hearted among you when you have read the Teachers Principles may see I have not wronged you in saying ye have set up shadowes above the substance and the Letter above Christ that gives Life From him who is in scorn called a Quaker H. W. THE END Page 7. line 1. for them read you p. 13. l 36. for love r. low
MARGERET BEEBY THOMAS HARVEY ISABEL HACKER ANd because you may not say that I wrong you in saying that you have set up Shadows Types and Figures above the Life and Substance which is Christ and visible carnal perishing things above the Invisible unchangeable Word of the Lord which endures for ever I shall here set down a few of your principal Doctrines by which ye Judge the principals of Christ and they that are found therein to be Apostates and deceivers which I shall here mention and answer something thereunto and so leave it to Gods witness in ye all to Judge whether you are deceivers and Apostates or we And I am troubled for you all my heart is broken for you all who are hardning your selves against the Lord and like the Jewes have painted your selves as the Jewes did who were the greatest enemies of the Lord when he came and I am pained at my very heart for you all and my life bears the Iniquitie of many and I am pressed as a Cart is pressed that is full of sheaves for your mountain is exalted above the Lord and great is the oppression of the Holy seed read and understand Isa 53.5 4. Psal 11.4 The sorrows of death compass me the floods of ungodly men made me afraid the sorrows of Hell compass me about the snares of death prevented me verse 11. He made thick darkness his secret place and his pavillion round about were dark waters and thick clouds of the skies the Lord also thundreth in the Heavens and the Highest gave his voice hail-stones and coals of fire ye he sent out his Arrows and scattered them then the Channels of water were seen and the foundations of the World were discovered read Iames 3.6 If you have an ear to hear what the Spirit saith at the rebuke of the Lord at the blast of the breath of his nostrils he sent from above and took me he drew me out of many waters he delivered me from my strong enemy and from them which hated me for they were too strong for me he brought me forth also into a large place he delivered me because he dilighted in me verse the 18. and 19. Your first principle is this held forth at that dispute 1. That faith is an act of the creatures and not Gods gift But because I have spoken something to this already I shall add these Scriptures for the Reader and leave it Ephisians 2 8 and 1 Cor. 12.9 And all our righteousnesses is as filthy rages but the Lord worketh all our works in us and for us and what is not of faith is sin 2. That a wicked man whilest a wicked m●n is justified by Christ and hath accesse unto and may freely lay hold upon all the merits of Christ Ans To which I say you are they which justifie your selves being wicked and out of the faith which should purifie your hearts and seek to be justified by Christ while your selves are found sinners and so would make Christ as you are Ministers of sin Galathians 2.17 But he that justifieth the wicked and he that condemneth the righteous as ye do even they are both an abominateon to the Lord Prov 17.15 3. That the Bible was the life of their souls and comfort of their souls Ans To this I say miserable are you and miserable are all your comforters who have set up another comforter then the consolation of Israel and the comforts of God and the consolations of God are small in you read John 14 16 17. And saith Christ I will pray the Father and he shall give you another Comforter that he may abide with you for ever even the spirit of truth whom the World cannot receive because it seeth him not neither knoweth him but you know him for he dwelleth with you and shall be in you I will not leave you comfortlesse I will come unto you William Ainsworth did affirm and John Brown likewise at his fathers house that Paul in baptising with water and not by commission was wicked and acted wickedly therein Ans First I shall prove what I there then did affirm That Paul was not sent to Baptize neither was his commission to Baptize with water but into the Name of the Father Son and Holy Ghost as you may read Mat. 28. Though Iohn Gosnel be so blind who is one of your chief Teachers in the first page of his book saith it is with water and saith it is not the Baptisme of the spirit but if you will believe John Gosnel rather then the Scriptures which you say is your rule Let it be upon your own heads for ever Secondly I shall prove they did Baptize with Water by permission and not by commission if you can either believe Paul or the Scriptures 1 Cor. 1.14 I thank God I baptized none of you but Crispus and Gaius and I Baptized also the house of Stephanus and I know not whether I baptized any other and this he saith is the reason and ground vers 17. for Christ sent me not to Baptize but to preach the Gospel and I say he did this and many other things by permission as you may read Acts 16.3 where he circumcised Timothy that he might gain and bring some to the true circumcision and one Baptisme Acts 21.24 Where Paul shaved his head and all this was by permission and not by command And I leave it upon you to prove that he acted wickedly therein and so you may see that those things which you are making your foundation and setting up above the Name of the Lord could be done or left undone by them who were guided by the spirit of the Lord and all was to gain some unto the Lord and bring them into the one Baptism which is by one spirit into the Name of the Lord 1 Cor. 12 yet I do not deny water Baptism nor John who had a commission to Baptize with water in their time and in their place for I do believe and know it was a ●ommand of God and they that rejected it rejected the counsel of God in not being baptized with water of John But John saith of himself I indeed Baptize you with water unto repentance I must decrease and he must encrease who baptizeth with the Holy Ghost and fire and you do not read in all the Scriptures that John was sent into all nations but he came preaching the doctrine of Baptisme and repentance in the Wildernesse of Iudea and to the people of Israel but he who was to encrease was found by Iohns Disciples then they left John and followed Jesus and said they had found him whom Moses and the Prophets wrote of Jesus of Nazereth the Son of Ioseph Iohn 1.37.41.45 And herein did the friend of the Bride-groom rejoyce even when he heard of the encrease of the Bridegroom But Christ Mat. 28.18 came and spake unto his Disciples saying all power is given unto me in Heaven and in earth Go ye therefore and teach all Nations Baptising them in