Guide it must be first subordinate to Revelation which is the prescribed Rule and from which it ought not to recede no more than a Judge from the Law as Paul told Ananias or else he is in danger of falling into Precipices that 's the Light it must follow and as the Soul is guided by Reason so must Reason be by Revelation neither can Reason and outward Revelation do the Work without inward Revelation whereby Reason is supernaturally endowed and this is Faith a Gift of God this is the ground of our Blessed Saviour's giving his Father thanks for revealing the Mysteries of Faith and Salvation unto Babes that is those who as yet in his Sense were not capable of Reason and plainly tells Peter that if he knew and confessed him to be the Son of the living God Flesh and Blood or his natural Reason had not revealed it unto him but his Father which is in Heaven When the Lord Jesus was upon leaving this World he promised his Disciples a Guide what their own Reason no such thing but the Holy Ghost the Spirit of Truth who should teach them all things and bring to remembrance whatsoever he had said unto them and he was to abide with them for ever this Spirit of God is the right Guide whom true Protestants own to lead and guide us in the way of Salvation and this he doth not according to human Fancies or private Inspirations but according to the Rule of the Word for saith our Saviour he shall receive of mine that is my Word and shall shew it unto you for he shall not speak of himself he teaches and applies the Word and his working is by the Apostle called the Spirit of a sound Mind which God hath given us so that a sound Mind an Orthodoxy in the Faith is an Effect of God's Gift not of our Reason or of any thing else in us wherefore David saith give me Vnderstanding according to thy Word But these things Socinians have been told over and over and in the Preface and latter end of my Book I think I said enough to satisfie unbyassed Persons so have others too this is the sure and infallible Guide which God hath given us and not any human Authority different from or contrary to it the Pope we cannot own for he is a Party and sets up for himself nor the antient Writers if they deviate from the Rule but 't is a good Argument for the things wherein they follow it Men must not be so selfish and wilful as to despise others who may have the Spirit of God as well as themselves and being Witnesses of those Times are able to inform us how things stood in their time and cannot be partial for this wherein we live The Author of the first Letter hath a touch upon the matter and that 's all 't is about the interpretation of what S. John saith the Word was made Flesh I confess there is a great difference in the interpretation we say according to the natural Signification the Word or Son of God took upon him our human Nature they say 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which we translate the Word signifies Reason rather than Word and they infer that the Reason or Wisdom of God was communicated unto Jesus Christ this is a very much forced Interpretation and fetch'd afar off for all along the Word is spoken of as a Subject and they would make a shift to turn it into the Predicate Now what shall we do of these two Opinions to find out the true one for if every Person or Party be allowed such a Latitude as to interpret things after their own Fancy there will be no end of false Glosses and wrong Interpretations how doth the Goldsmith do to know true Gold or Silver from that which is false he brings it to the Touch-stone so must we in this case between them and us is a Difference the Party must not be the Judge 't is not just they should be Judges in their own cause nor we in ours then we must agree about a Judge such as is impartial and infallible and none but God is such now God doth not immediatly speak from Heaven for he doth it in his Word that is his Will and ought to be our Law and Rule in matters of Faith I will believe no Man's Assertion except out of Scripture he proves it to me the like he may justly expect from me but in case of that Text of Scripture he and I give different Interpretations what 's to be done we ought still to keep in the same Court and wait for a Decision from the same Judge then I must prove my Interpretation by some other place of Scripture or else he must not believe me nor I him except he doth the like and if Men will but lay aside Prejudices and be acted by a real and sincere desire to find out the Truth God will not leave them but therein afford such Helps as shall answer their Good for all Scripture is given by Inspiration of God and is profitable for Doctrine for Reproof for Correction for Instruction in Righteousness that the Man of God may be perfect Now let us come to our Point and reduce the Rule to a Practice the Question is Whether by the Word is meant a Person as we say or a Quality as they would have it there is a great Difference between Persons and Things now to find out the Truth this Text must be compared with others we need not to go far for in the first Verse of the Chapter we read thrice the same Name in the beginning was the Word was signifieth existed had a Being which relateth to a Person and not to a Thing the same Word was with God and was God what a Quality with God and a Thing God doth the Evangelist begin his Gospel in so high a strain only to tell us how Reason was in the beginning how Reason was with God and Reason was God or in plain Words that God was Reasonable which is a Truth known to every one so no need to tell it but he would acquaint the Readers with things before unknown to them besides doth this hold any proportion with the Nature and Excellency of the Gospel and great Tidings of Salvation this indeed is to exalt Reason and because they make a God of their Reason therefore for Name 's sake Reason must be deified then according to their Principle this Reason must be an efficient Cause of all for all things were made by him and without him was not any thing made that was made to create and make things is the Property and Act of a Person and not of a Thing in him as in a Person and not as in a Thing was Life and the same Apostle calls him the Word of Life that Life which was manifested and that Eternal Life which was with the Father first and then was manifested unto us as if
contrary to their Subscriptions are departed from the Doctrine I call it the true about Predestination to fall into Arminianism so they may embrace Socinianism as you say the majority now doth and so successively and by degrees pass into any other Heresie for which you give this reason Men cannot help the altering of their Minds This truly and properly is the Religion of Libertinism and Atheism is the next step So Men may plainly see what a kind of Religion you are striving for and would bring us into To what hath been said about Convocations this I shall add that though ye seem to slight a Convocation yet let me tell you either in Quality or Number 't is no despicable Body it being the Representative of a considerable part of the Nation and 't is hoped from the Piety and Wisdom of the Parliament that in Matters of Religion upon occasion they will not despise their Advice and Address In the Disputes about Socinians and us we are agreed to be judged by the Word of God yet they dislike our making use of it against them too much as they think but this Gentleman who in the beginning of his Letter complains of my numerous Quotations of Scripture Phrases as he calls it hath taken effectual care to avoid giving me cause to complain of the like against him for in the whole Letter there is but one Quotation just at the latter end of it and 't is usher'd in with this Christian Preamble ' The ill-natur'd turn of your Title-Page and the malicious and persecuting design of your Preface convinced me that if we may believe our Saviour Christ you know neither the Father nor the Son this is what we call To beat a Man with his own Weapons his own he hitherto used to little purpose at last he resolv'd to try whether the same I made use of against him would do his Work but he is so unskilful in handling of it that 't will not serve his end but is against rather than for him He saith to me If we may believe our Saviour Christ the if may well be turned against you out of another Mans Pen it were not questionable as 't is out of yours I wish you would believe him as we do when he absolutely and without any limitation doth call himself the Son of God as some times they wrest his Words so here they would make him say that I know neither the Father nor his Son whereupon he quoteth this Text They shall put you out of the Synagogues yea the time cometh that whosoever killeth you shall think that he doth God service and these things will they do unto you because they have not known the father nor me But how well applyed let us see not at all to his purpose for there the Lord Jesus foretold his Disciples that for his sake and upon his account Persecutions should befall them I ask whether in earnest he looks upon himself and other Socinians to be Disciples of Christ May be such as Judas was who betrayed his Person as they do his Truth but true Disciples that cannot be for suppose that Sect were brought under the Rod it would not be for his Cause His Apostles as we read in several places of the Book of the Acts suffered Persecution for owning Christ to be the true Son of God the holy one the Prince of Life and not for affirming him to be a meer Man who had no Being before he was born of the Virgin Mary and denying him to be true Eternal God of the same Nature with the Father certainly if God should bring you to Punishment ye could not have the face to say it is for the same Cause as his Disciples suffered they suffered for giving him his due and ye for robbing him of it Therefore to retort your own Argument upon you I say ye know neither the Father nor the Son for the Father ye cannot know but in and by the Son The Son ye do not know for ye will not own him to be what he is namely true eternal God blessed for ever thus out of our Saviour's own Words I conclude against you as in this same Cause and upon the same account he did against the Jews who looked on him as a meer Man and would by no means own him truly to be God Son of God Ye neither know me nor my Father if ye had known me ye should have known my Father also Wherefore since ye know me not ye know not my Father neither This weight I farther lay upon you how as ye know not so ye have not the Father for ye deny the Son to be what he is indeed of the same Nature with the Father and the Apostle saith Whosoever denyeth the Son the same hath not the Father to deny the Son is not only to deny him to be but also to deny him to be what he is And now since I am upon this your Words If we may believe our Saviour Christ are a Motive for me to go on and to call things by their Name to say ye are a sort of Infidels for ye will not believe God tho' he speaks from Heaven not only once but twice and thrice in our Lord's Baptism in his Transfiguration and at another time when the Voice came from Heaven God the Father from Heaven proclaimed him to be his beloved Son in whom he is well pleased with a Command to hear him Hear ye him yet ye will not believe the Father nor hear the Son who appeals to that Testimony of the Father nor when he calls himself God's Son onely begotten who is One with the Father in Power equal with him For what things soever the Father doth these also doth the Son likewise that the Father sent him out of his Bosom that he came down from Heaven he proceeded and came down from God and so many more things to that purpose But now he speaks to you as once he did to the Jews Why do ye not understand my speech even because ye cannot hear my word yet him ye will not hear but mark what will become of it And it shall come to pass that every soul which will not hear that Prophet in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you shall be destroyed among the People Ye would rob him of that Glory and Honour which he received from God the Father which not only is recorded by the Evangelist but confirmed by an Apostle with all the necessary Circumstances what where and when We were eye-witnesses of his majesty for he received from God the Father honour and glory when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory This is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased which he affirms not by hear-say but as ear-witness for he addeth And this voice which came from heaven we heard when we were with him in the holy mount But ye will hear neither Christ nor his
and said what might be expected from a Member my work being to Vindicate the Honour and Right of my most blessed Lord and Saviour as far as he will be pleased to enable me and to pull off the Vizard from these falsly pretended Members of the Church In the Pamphlet are several Trifles under the Head how wide Socinianism is spread which yet in my way I shall take a short notice of not minding what he saith of my ill-natur'd and malicious Paper for by this time he hath pretty well used me to ill Language as to an idle foolish talking and which is the worst ridiculing and profaning Holy things In several Parts of Europe where I happened to meet with the dispersed Jews I sometimes took an occasion to discourse with some of them about our blessed Saviour but in them all from the highest to the lowest I found a gall and prejudice against him and have cause to think those whom we have here in England to be acted by the same Spirit and by some words heard to drop out of Manasseh Ben Israel's Mouth when in Cromwel's time he came over I perceived that if ever they were suffered to stay here they in Matters of Religion would be as ready to do us harm as themselves good in another way and I thought that I being about naming the Enemies of Christ the Jews we have here might not be omitted and I am of opinion that in case among them there be any Man of Parts Socinians would not be backward to gather out of them what Arguments they could against the Person of our blessed Lord no not from Mahometans if any were near and able to afford them and this I said in relation to Servetus one of their Ringleaders who in his Youth being in Africa among Jews and Mahometans suck'd their Blasphemies and brought them into Europe and to shew how in relation to the Principles of Religion about our Saviour's Person 't is possible for a Socinian to become a Turk I prove it by the Example of Alciati one of their Gang and Socinus's Companion who out of Poland fled into Turkey and became Mahometan Do not think I do you any wrong when speaking of Socinianism I mention Mahometanism for tho' as well as you they deny our blessed Saviour to be God yet they own him to be a great Prophet sent by God 'T is observable how Mahomet himself in that part of his Alcoran wherein he relates that notorious Imposture of his having been carry'd up into the highest Heaven there to see great and strange Mysteries whence may be you borrowed your Dream of an imaginary Ascension of our Lord and Saviour after his Baptism before he began to Teach when at his coming to the first Heaven he met with Adam in the second Noah Abraham in the third c. he saith they all one after another commended themselves to his Prayers but when he came into the seventh where he met Jesus himself he commended to Jesus's Prayers And if ye will know how in many things about the Trinity and Christ's Divinity Socinians agree with Mahometans I refer you to Hottingerus in his Histor Orient l. 2. c. 3. Yet tho' what I speak upon the Matter be words of Truth and Soberness he has as good as call'd me Mad and fell into such a long raving Fig as I think it would require a strong dose of Hellebore to purge away the Matter which caused it and that makes him so often talk of Fire and Faggot and such other things as he brings in over head and shoulders and so looks upon me as one who would see all Socinians put to death Socinianism indeed I would gladly see rooted out but to have Men put to death is neither my inclination nor my work yet as there is a Sin of concealing what one hath seen or known so I cannot but take notice of that as in the case of a false Swearer God said thine Eye shall not pity so the Blasphemer was by his immediate command put to death He would take advantage of something I said about Arminians and upon that occasion would act the States-man's part and shew I have taken wrong measures to gain my Point and so would ironically give Counsel By what they say in several places I see they are free enough to Advise tho' undesired and unfit but they should know we are not used to take the Counsel of our Enemies Men who stand for the Truth are not byassed by Worldy Considerations and Designs tho' never so plausible and specious I thank God in Matters of Religion I have no squint Eye I am neither ashamed nor afraid openly to own a Truth if I was not satisfied it is so I would not own it but it being I will do 't by the grace of God as long as I live till I see cause to the contrary Therefore 't is but time and labour lost for such Advisers their wise Counsels let them keep for themselves for some things which they call Sense and Reason others upon better grounds call Sensual Reason And here Sirs I must tell you how you talk so much of want of Learning in others as if ye were the only great Doctors of the World if as ye say I am a Mystery to you so is your Learning a Mystery to me by your Letters I cannot find where it lies nor no Man else I think But to speak confidently to lodge all Brains in the World within your own Skull to outface Men to wrest and misrepresent what others say and to set up for Judges of all good Sense Wit and Learning that indeed ye sufficiently learned and every one may well be satisfied how great proficients ye are in that kind of Learning But to take my turn to Advise you do not always trust your own Looking-glass for it doth but flatter you and represents not after Nature ye would appear unto the World as if all Wit Parts and Learning were monopolised to your selves and all besides you lying in Blindness and Ignorance That Original Sin derived from and inherent in Socinus's Family that old Leaven in you ought to be purg'd but God knows when it will be if at all for ye look very big upon all others like the proud Pharisees This people who not knoweth the Law are Cursed but we sit in Moses his Seat Matters of Grace and Providence I believe to be of the highest Importance and such as our Salvation depends upon and in my judgment I am fully satisfied Arminians to be much in the wrong but however if a Comparison be made between the Socinian and Arminian Principles no Man that is acquainted with both can but make a difference for tho' in many things they agree yet in others of the most Essential as about the Trinity and the Person of our blessed Saviour they differ from them and therein join with us against that common Enemy Socinians lay under open Blasphemy and condemned Heresie by
Mr. Toland and his Book him he calls the Learned and Ingenious Author and of the Book he saith I do not perceive to speak truly but that Book still stands in its full strength and not only so but if we believe him it hath also acquired a farther reputation by what hath been written against it which that great Master of Learning doth despisingly call an unsuccessful nibling at it But this kind of comparison between two so highly different Persons is odious for it carries along with it a great disparagement to one of them against whom is given the preference and is an invincible proof of want of judgment in such Men as pretend to make it but the commendation or discommendation of that sort of People being so misapply'd are insignificant and it would be no Credit rather the contrary for an Orthodox Person to be commended by them But to carry on their Confidence to the utmost they challenge the Lord Bishop to answer the Reasons in their own Books against the Trinity Yet for all this and after their great Commendation of Mr. T 's Book those wise and cautious Men being afraid of any thing that smells of the Fire as that Book doth they declare about it in which and for which we are not in the least concern'd But I think they were for one which somewhile ago was burnt whilst many more of theirs which now are abroad deserve the same Fate But as we must not expect they will follow the Example of those who brought in their Books among which we may well think were no worse than some of the Socinians are and burnt them which these will not themselves do of theirs for indeed 't is the proper work of the common Executioner far from it they set them out and commend as much as they can nay they are so bold as to let the World know there were such Books of theirs abroad and we find it many times witness Mr. T 's Apology among the Advertisements in the Post-Boy and such printed Papers and this in defiance of Laws and Parliaments whose Authority in Matters of Religion as observed before they deny So that it were but fit that on this occasion that Illustrious Body would be pleased to assert and vindicate their Right For that sort of Men if they had Power would in the denial of this Authority soon pass from Religious to Civil Matters wherefore 't is the Interest of Church and State to support one another for they are like the Twain Children born and bred together between which was such a sympathy that when one was Well Sick or Strong the other was so too and as they were born so they died together He who but a little before said that the Socinians will agree to the disputed Article if they may explain it meant after their own way is such a stranger to Scripture that if it be not the Printer's fault I am apt to believe because in the Margin I quoted not the place he knew not whom I meant when to Socinians I apply'd the Character which Scripture gives of Ishmael whose hand was against every man and every man's hand against him for instead of Ishmaels the word Infidels is in Tho' I do not mind the nauseous stuff wherewith he hath fill'd up the rest of that Page and the following yet I well know and take notice how he is not satisfied to misrepresent me to the Lords Bishops but most maliciously would traduce me as one who makes impudent Reflections on the King and Parliament thereby to make me obnoxious To be Impudent were an invasion upon his Property which I never was nor shall be guilty of Here I might claim the Law of Retaliation he cannot defend his Cause therefore he would throw his Venom upon me Si non marte tamen arte Now this Calumny of his he doth ground upon these words of mine That to the Toleration of those two transcendent Wickednesses Blasphemy and Idolatry we may chiefly attribute the cause of the Chastisements which make the Nation uneasie I hope none will deny that Sins bring God's Judgements upon Nations and when we feel them 't is our duty to speak the Truth our Sins are the cause of this Afflictions do not arise out of the Dust but if we must believe Scripture Chastisements or Punishments of Nations Families and Persons come from the hand of God for as he is most Just so leaves nothing unrewarded if in the World there was any Person free from Sin that very same should also be free from all manner of Pains but Punishment is tyed to the tail of Sin and when we feel God's Chastisements and we know they are inflicted for Sin then the most notorious the greatest and most frequent Sins are obvious to our Eyes as the two in question must needs be and thereupon we should say Lord we have sinned against Heaven and against thee About this Point I shall out of Scripture bring a Precedent of what must be done in such Cases The Israelites are smitten at Ai whereupon Joshua rent his Cloths and fell upon his Face and God said unto him Israel hath sinned I will be no more with you except ye destroy the accursed from among you the Accursed both Person and Thing at that time were destroyed and now if not the Persons at least the Thing should be if we will have God among us and what things in the World more accursed than Blasphemy and Idolatry wherefore I then did and now do conclude that all Christian and prudent care ought to be used to remove Blasphemy and Idolatry out of the Kingdom but how to effect it 't is to be left to those whom it belongs to but still the thing ought to be done Now I ask Is this to make an impudent Reflection against King and Parliament But they make a real one for under the notion that he is no Persecutor they would proclaim his Majesty and the Parliament to favour and protect Blasphemy and Heresie that is Socinianism But this Gentleman according to the Spirit which they all are originally acted by would profanely ridicule the dispensations of God's special Providence and divest that infinite Majesty of his being the just Judge of the World who doth execute Justice and Judgment After this rate the Old World was Drowned by Chance tho' the Flood had been foretold 120 Years before Thus Sodom and Gomorrah were consumed by Accident and without God's special Appointment tho' he out of Heaven rained Fire and Brimstone So by Hazard Nadah and Abihu were consumed tho' Scripture saith There went out Fire from the Lord and devoured them Likewise without a special Providence the Earth opened her mouth and swallowed up Korah Dathan and Abiram tho' it was a special Judgment of God as was that of the 14700 Men who for their murmuring against Moses and Aaron as we read in the same Chapter died of the Plague In the like manner after their