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A54177	The new witnesses proved old hereticks, or, Information to the ignorant in which the doctrines of John Reeve and Lodowick Muggleton, which they stile, mysteries never before known, revealed, or heard of from the foundation of the world, are proved to be mostly ancient whimsies, blasphemies and heresies, from the evidence of Scripture, reason and several historians : also an account of some discoourse betwixt L.M. and my self, by which his blasphemous, ignorant and unsavory spirit is clearly and truly manifested, in love to the immortal souls of those few, who are concern'd in the belief of his impostures / by a living true witness to that one eternal way of God, revealed in the light of righteousness W.P.	Penn, William, 1644-1718.	1672 (1672)	Wing P1326; ESTC R15258	38,470	64

There is nothing Mortal that is not Elementary or composed of visible Matter or Substance but the Body is that only part of Man which is so composed And consequently the Body is the onely Mortal Part of Man Secondly That only can be subject to visible and material Generations Agitations Motions Privations Diminutions Increases Alterations Operations and Corruptions which is of a Visible Elementary and Corporal Substance for an Invisible none ever saw subject to any one of them but of such is the Body and not the Soul by Reeve and Muggleton their own assertion of Man's Nature to be of the Faith which is God's Nature Therefore the Body is subject onely to Generation and Corruption and not the Soul That the Soul is not of the same Nature of the Body I thus prove Thirdly That which is intellectual which in its pure Nature knows comprehends governs and orders all visible elementary and corporical Beeings and yet is Invisible Spiritual Rational and Internal as is manifest from its Heavenly Meditations its secret Thoughts its serious Reflects acute Memory and profound Reasonings about the Causes and Effects of all things cannot but be of a Nature more refined exellent and noble then to fall under the same Generations Revolutions and Corruptions those inferior visible Beeings are subject to But such is the Nature of Man's Soul as daily experience manifests to all that will not wilfully Blind their Eyes therefore though Man's Body be Mortal as being of that grosser Substance and elementary Nature yet his Soul is of an immortal Nature and can receive no Alteration of Being by any that may or can happen to the Body which is but a Well Organz'd and disposed Instrument for the Soul to exert or put forth it self by according to the good Pleasure of God and that creaturely Prudence necessary to be eyed in and about all Worldly Concernments Thus much and enough to this Point That this is as Gray-headed as Atheism we may suppose and that it is not only their only Revelation I prove John the 22th Bishop of Rome and some in the Countries of Arabia held this very Doctrine affirming That Souls and Bodies dyed and rose together of which read Origen and Eusebius Pamphilus lib. 6. chap. 36. nor can any be ignorant that converse with Story that long before since and at this day where Reeve and Muggleton were never thought on this wretched Opinion is but too rise Anno 249. 1423. years since Fifthly BUt their most admirable Secret of all is That God descended with his Body in the shape of a Man and dissolved himself into the Virgin 's Womb and so brought forth himself a Man who after he had lived to such an Age was Crucified and really dyed or ceased to be either God or Man for Three Dayes and Nights That this is in three Paticulars highly inconsistent with Scripture I prove First God did not so transmute his divine Nature into Fleshly Mortal Nature 1. Your Father Abraham rejoyced to see my day Then said the Jews unto him Thou art not yet Fifty Years old and hast thou seen Abraham Jesus said unto thems Verily verily I say unto you Before Abraham was I am John 8.56 57 58. If that which was before Abraham and yet then in beeing the same was God as none that own the Scriptures do deny then because that outward visible Body was not before Abraham that was not God The first all grant the second none reasonably doubt for Christ was crucified about the Three and Thirtieth year of his Life And then I hope none will believe the Eternal Deity was Transmuted or Transubstantiated into that Visible Body for so Christ's Answer would not have been true for that Mortal Body which say Reeve and Muggleton was the Eternal God had a Beginning and was not of that Age the Jews said it to be 2. Whose are the Fathers and of whom as concerning the Flesh Christ came who is over all God blessed forever Rom. 9. 5. If Christ as concerning the Flesh was not God as the Text manifestly implieth by a Distinction betwixt his Appearance in that Body of Flesh and his Divine Essence or Beeing with their Originals then that fleshly Body was not God or the Eternal God was not Substantially Transmuted into that Fleshly Body Secondly Neither could Elias be God's Deputy to transact in his stead the Affairs of Heaven during that Journey which these Impostors affirm God to have taken from any Scripture Evidence 1. For my Father is greater then I John 14.28 And he kneeled down and prayed Father if thou be willing remove this Cup from Me nevertheless not my Will but thine be done Luke 22.41 42. If Elias was that Father which Christ spake of and prayed and cryed to as Reeve and Muggleton assert then either he that cryed to him was not God but Elias really God and so they both contradict their own Doctrine who tell us That he that was born of the Virgin and dyed on the Cross was the Everlasting Father or else that which needeth and cryeth for help of another was greater then that which was able to succour and deliver it which how absurd it is let all sober men judge therefore he to whom he cry'd and pray'd in all Streights and whom he had affirmed to have received all his Doctrine and Commission from and who was greater then all was the only true God and not any glorified Creature For God could not leave Elias his Deputy and not leave him his Power which if he did be left Himself since without his Almighty Power he were not God Secondly I thank thee O Father Lord of Heaven and Earth because thou hast hid these things from the Wise and Prudent and revealed them unto Babes The Hour is come glorifie thy Son that thy Son also may glorifie thee And this is Life Eternal to know thee the only true God and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent And now Father glorifie thou me with the Glory which I had with thee before the World began John 17.1 3 5. On this place I raise these three brief Arguments 1. If Elias was not the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ nor Lord of Heaven and Earth but a created Being as all confess then it was not unto Elias that Jesus returned that Heavenly Thanksgiving but to his own Father greater then all who is Lord of Heaven and Earth 2. If he to whom he prayed be that only true God and that to know him and Christ Jesus whom he hath sent be Life Eternal then was it not Elias to whom he prayed because all grant that he is not the only true God nor did he so love the World as to send his only begotten into the World that through believing in him it might obtain Eternal Life This most plainly knocks down all Conceits of a Deputed God that Christ should pray unto because supposing that such a thing could be yet he could not be that only true

same Glorious Nature both in Spirit and Bodie as God is T.S.T. p. 46. Therefore the most Wise and Holy Creator created the Bodies of Angels Spiritual and their Natures Rational and he made the Body of the Man Adam Natural and his Soul Spiritual For if their Spirits and Bodies had been both of the Divine Nature then it would have been impossible for them to have been capable of any Sin or Evil no more then the Creator Himself for what would have been formed but Creators only instead of Creatures D.L.G. pag. 9 10. Animadversion II. If to be in Body and Spirit Spiritual be to be Creators then Gods and if the Saints are to be of the same Body and Spirit then they are to be Creators and consequently Gods which is absurd For if the Reason why Man was not at first made all Spiritual but the Soul Spiritual and the Body Natural was because he had been a Creator as they say which was impossible then if Man is to be of the same Body and Spirit that God is as they affirm Man is to be a Creator in the next World Monstrum Horrendum Contradiction III If the very God-head had not dyed that is If the very Soul of Christ which the Eternal Father had not dyed in the Body or with the Body to quiet or satisfie the Cry of the Guilt of Sin in Men's Spirits all men would have perished to Eternity Thus the Father and the Son was but one unseparable Person in Immortal Glory from all Eternity and became in time one unseparable Person in Mortality T.S.T. p. 25 26. If Angels and Men had been both of God's Divine Nature in their Creation then instead of their being capable to be changed into a higher or lower Condition at the Divine Pleasure of the Creator would they not rather have been Unchangeable Creators then Changeable Creatures D.L.G. p. 9. Animadversion III. If the Reason why Men and Angels are not of the Divine Nature be That they are subject to Change and that if they had been made of it they would not have been capable of Mutation into lower or higher Degrees at Divine Pleasure then because God is of that Divine Nature it is inconsistant with his Nature to Change or be Transmuted as they often speak from an higher State to a lower and so their whole conceit of the Deity 's Mortality is vain and by themselves Contradicted Contradiction IV. Again Many seeming wise men do imagine the Lord to be a vast Spirit D.L.G. p. 16. Others blasphemously say that the spirit of Man is God and that the Body only dyes These say also God is an Infinite Spirit T.S.T. p. 44. Is not that Infinite Spirit and its Glorious Properties but only one Essence or God-head Substance D.L.G. p. 106. You may know that all things are possible and very easie for an Infinite Spirit to bring to pass D.L.G. p. 114. Animadversion IV. It can be no Crime for any to believe God to be an Infinite or Vast Spirit as one while they would have it whilst presently they call the God-head Substance an Infinite Spirit and confess all things to be possible unto an Infinite Spirit O Gross Contradiction Contradiction V. I say In the Great and Notable Day of the Lord by his Decree they shall every one of them rise out of the Dust together not with the same Bodies that dyed because there was somewhat of God in those Bodies T.S.T. p. II. So likewise that Infinite Spirit abiding within the glorious Body of Christ is so unspeakably fiery Glorious that no Created Spirit of Man nor Angel is able to bear the In-dwelling Essence of it D.L.G. p. 69. Animadversion V. If something of God dwells in this Life in the Souls and Bodies of Men then it is not so fiery Glorious but it may abide in them and they not be consumed For God's Nature or Essence is irreconcileable to nothing but Sin the Righteous shall behold him Face to Face So that one while God dwells in Men another while if it should be so Man would be Consumed Behold the Self-Opposition of these Miserable Witnesses Contradiction VI. How can any Rational Wise Man possibly think that Man or any other Living Forms should ever be without a Glorious Creator to give them their Beeings at first D.L.G. p. 16. This was the Creator's very case in the matter of Creation and who dares speak against it no Spiritual Wise Man I am sure only some Lustful Persons may dispute against it though it be contrary to their own Reason when it is sober D.L.G. p. 12. I confess it is not only contrary to Reason but far above all Reasons Reach truly to understand the Mysteries of the Creation D.L.G. p. 114. Animadversion VI. If an Appeal be made to rational Men concerning the Creation by a God and if it be contrary to sober Reason not to believe so then it is not far above nor contrary to all Reason to understand the Creation for else why is it render'd by them so agreeable to Reason and an Appeal made unto Rational Men concerning it Contradiction VII Again For your Information in whose Persons the Lord by his Holy Spirit Delights to dwell T.S.T. p. 22. Whoever thou art that boastest of a God and a Christ and his Ordinances and of a Glory to come without thee in the highest Heavens if thou shouldst be left to the Pride and Envy of thy Formal spirit to condemn the Invisible Teachings of the Lord Jesus Christ in his Innocent People because they are contrary to thy Opinion I say from the Everlasting Emanuel That thou art also but a Reprobate D.L.G. p. 68 69. For in him dwelleth all the Fulness of the Godhead bodily and from his Fulness we all receive and Grace for Grace If Christ or his Spirit were within men when they uttered those words all Faith or Hope in reference to Eternal Glory was vain D.L.G. p. 67 68. Animadversion VII If Christ delighteth to dwell in the Persons of his People by his Eternal Spirit and that he thereby teacheth their Souls what he requires from them as say they then it is not in vain to believe or hope though Christ or his Spirit were within as they also say nay they affirm That the Souls of the Redeemed is the Throne of God on which he now sits D.L.G. p. 46. And therefore though Christ or his Spirit were in Believers yet that would not make their Faith and Hope void Why Because they stand therein Contradiction VIII Is that Eternal Spirit in its Heavenly Vertues any thing else but Immortal Crowns of bright Burning Glories Though the Eternal Spirit be that Invisible God that by the Power of his Almighty Word hath created all things and though all Power Wisdom and Glory proceeds only from an Invisible Eternal Spirit D.L.G. p. 106. Can this Infinite Spiritual Glory be sensible of its Divine Excellency or be a perfect Blessedness except he hath a distinct Body suitable to

his Eternal Spirit yet without a Body Face or Tongue or a Majestical Person like unto Earthly Monarchs he could not possibly have spoken distinct words nor his Glory have been perfect D.L.G. p. 106. Animadversion VIII If that which is requisit to define or render God truly such be singly attributed to the eternal Spirit without the mention of a Body then is the Eternal Spirit the Invisible God as they themselves prove If the Eternal Spirit be nothing else then Crowns of Immortal Glory and that it is the Invisible God whose Power created all things and if all Wisdom Glory and Power proceed ONLY from this Invisible Eternal Spirit as they say then not unto a Body but unto that who ALONE has all Power Wisdom and Glory is the Godhead to be ascribed but that is unto the Invisible Spirit And if the Eternal Spirit be thus qualified how possibly can its Glory be ecclipst for want of a Body Face or Tongue Is the Eternal Spirit Crowns of Immortal Imperfect Glory And how can all Glory alone be given unto the Spirit whose Glory is imperfect without a Body He should have said From the Spirit and Body Alone proceedeth all Glory c. But this Confusion is like the rest Contradiction IX Moreover You may know That those Men called Independents Anabaptists Presbyterians are the Literal Apostolical Jews D.L.G. p. 191. Furthermore Those Anabaptist Independent Presbyterian Men which hold it Lawful to Persecute Men in their Persons and Estates upon a Spiritual account I say from the Eternal Spirit That they are for the most part the Off-spring of those Bloody-minded Jews that Crucified the Lord of Glory upon the account of Blasphemy D.L.G. p. 192. Animadversion IX That Exception should have been made before for if those that are called Independants Presbyterians and Anabaptists are Apostolical Jews and yet such as are for Persecution for Conscience are of their Race that put Christ to Death then they are not of the Apostolical but Mosaical Jews But how can they make that hold together The Apostolical Jew is one not outward in the Letter but in the Heart and in the Spirit if so either they are Independents Presbyterians or Anabaptists or else those three Opinions are come to be of theirs since at the Distance they stand they cannot be under the same Covenant and Circumcision But to be short By their declaring them whilst not their Followers Apostolical Jews we may conclude That Reeve and Muggleton count themselves none of them but Men of another Dispensation and therefore not of the Circumcision in Heart which is not according to the Letter but the Spirit beyond which Dispensation all other Pretensions are Imaginations and vain Exaltations Contradiction X. It is not thy Natural or Allegorical Whimsies that can blind the Elect nor pacifie the Judge of Life and Death within thee D.L.G. p. 168. And now I desire no other Witness to bear Record in the Consciences of Men to this Epistle whether it be Truth or no but the Everlasting Jehovah or Eternal Spiritual Jesus himself D.L.G. p. 208. Again If every man have the Spirit of Christ living in his Conscience as many men vainly imagine What then is become of the Spiritual Body of that Jesus that ascended into the Throne of his Glory in the visible sight of Men and Angels D. L.G p. 68. Animadversion X. If the Judge of Life and Death be in man then Christ unto whom all Judgment is committed is in man to justifie or condemn him therefore Christ or his Spirit or both are in man and consequently it is no Impediment to nor Denial of Christ's Ascension with a Glorified Body Neither is it vain to believe that the Spirit of Christ lives in the Consciences of Men. Observe their Folly The Judge of Life and Death is within thee again It is vain to Imagine that the Spirit of Christ lives in mens Consciences Thus they say and unsay almost in a Breath But above all That the Everlasting Jehovah and Eternal Spiritual Jesus should be in mens Consciences the true Witness and yet not be in Men Who can understand this strange Riddle Contradiction XI But you may say Did God the third day arise from the Dead by his own Power or by the Power of his Deputy Elias To which I answer He by his own Decree and Spiritual Compact with Elias and by that Spirit of Faith in his Innocent Body the which Faith dyed in his pure Body and quickened immediately and brought forth that Natural Innocent Body out of the Grave a pure Spiritual Body T.S.T. p. 32 33. Therefore whosoever saith that any other Body ascended into Glory but that very same Body of Flesh and Bones that suffered Death upon the Cross he is an Antichrist and in utter Spiritual Darkness D.L.G. p. 15. Animadversion XI If the Body dyed a Natural Body and was brought forth a Spiritual Body then unless that Spiritual Body lay'd down it self and resum'd its Natural Body as at the first it could not be the very same Body of Flesh Blood and Bone that Dyed which Ascended but it must have been a Spiritual Body In short If Natural and Spiritual be not all one as say they else-where in these Contradictions then was it no more the same Body then Natural is Spiritual and Mortal Immortal upon their own Principles and consequently Reeve and Muggleton are the Antichrists and in utter Darkness As for the three-fold Answer he gives to the Objection it is wretchedly Blaphemous 1. God's Decree 2. His Compact with Elias 3. His own Spirit of Faith To the first I reply What did the Decree avail when the Power was in another and when he that made it was dead To the second I return That God's rising lay on the side of Elias's Honesty in performing Obligation keeping Covenant and not in any other thing 3. As to that Spirit of Faith they confess it dy'd if so how did the Faith raise him Besides In whom should God have Faith in Himself He was dead In Elias He could not exercise it when in the Grave Again He that believes injoyes not fully and has Confidence in one Greater then Himself but God wants nothing and can have no Object for Faith and therefore no Faith O the Unparalell'd Sottish ●olly and Raveing Conceits of these men Contradiction XII So likewise I positively affirm against all Gainsayers under Heaven That I John Reeve am the Last Commissionated Prophet that ever shall declare Divine Secrets according to the Foundation of Truth until the Lord Jesus Christ appear on his Throne of Glory D.L.G. p. 119. A True Interpretation of all the chief Texts and Mysterious Sayings and Visions opened of the whole Book of the Revelation of St. John wherein is unfolded and plainly declared those Wonderful Deep Mysteries and Visions interpreted concerning the True God the Alpha and Omega with variety of other Heavenly Secrets which hath never been opened nor revealed to any man since the