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A86663 The cause of stumbling removed from all that will receive the truth; and from before the eyes of the wise men of London: in a treatise shewing the difference between the spirit of a man which is the candle of the Lord, and the light which hath enlightned every man that cometh into the world. Also shewing ... there is not diversity of lights and spirits, by which they are ministred ... Herein also is a false hosanna, and a false testimony reproved ... the name of him which hath so long travell'd to bring forth wind and confusion, is one known in the city of London by the name of Iohn Iackson ... that so ... understanding and knowledge of the truth may be increased, in those that follow on to know the Lord. Given forth from the Lords servant, Richard Hubberthorne. Hubberthorn, Richard, 1628-1662.; Burrough, Edward, 1634-1662. 1657 (1657) Wing H3222; Thomason E929_5; ESTC R202544 39,439 35

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come by Hearing and Hearing by the Word of God then how is it that he is not the word of Faith being that word by which Faith comes when it is heard and he being the Author of it May he not then as well be called the Word of it as the Author of it seeing he is the Word by which it comes but that all may understand what this word of faith was which the Apostle preached This was Christ Rom. 10. and they preached no other Word to be the Word of faith but Christ That whosoever believed on him should not be ashamed So that if the ignorance of Christ and of the Apostles words were blotted out of the hearts of our Accusers they would be silent and the daylie reproach would cease And whereas it is affirmed by us That the Light or a measure of Christ within is a sure Word of Prophesie or a more sure Word of Prophesie as Peter saith 2 Pe●. 1. 19. And whereas many are offended at this and labours to make people believe that this is the Writings of the Prophets which is the more sure Word of Prophesie the Apostle speaks of because he saith Knowing this first that no Prophesie of the Scriptures is of any private interpretation for the Prophesie came not in old time by the will of man but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by she Holy Ghost c. Ans. Now I shall make it appear that it was not the Writings of the Prophets which was that more sure Word as first concerning that here is one thing held out to be a sure Word and another thing held out to be more sure as unto those to whom it was spoken And as concerning the first That which is held out to be a sure Word is that which ●ame from the Father the voice which cam● from the excellent Glory saying This is my beloved Son in whom I am w●ll pleased and this voice which came from Heaven the Disciples heard when they were with him in the holy Mount This was a sure Word when it was spoken and when it was written it was a sure Testimony as sure as any of the Prophets Writings for the Prophets did see that he was to come and that he that was to come was the well-b●loved Son of the Father and they wrote this down and it was a sure testimony of Christ and Peter and the rest saw that he was come and did hear the voice from the excellent Glory proclaiming him to be the Son of God and when they had seen it they wrote it down and this was as sure a testimony yea a surer then the Prophets and that which the Apostles were eye-witnesses of and did write down for truth was as much ●● be taken heed unto as that which the Prophets declared and this will all men of understanding judge that the Apostle Peter did not direct the people to the Prophets words to take heed to them because they were more sure th●n his own and more to be believed But although the Apostles words and writings was confirmed with more power and witnesse of the Spirit then the Prophets and both true yet the Apostles Ministry unto those which did not see those things which the Prophets saw muchlesse those things the Apostles saw no not so far as the dawning of the day nor to the day-star risen in their hearts therefore Peter dividing the word of God aright saith unto them We have a more sure Word of Prophesie whereunto ye do well that ye take heed as unto a light that shineth in a dark place until the day dawn and the day-star aris● in your hearts 2 Pet. 1. 19. It was more sure for them to ●ake heed unto that which was as a light shining in a dark place till the day-star did arise and the day dawn in their hearts then the declarations from others without them decla●rd in words writings as thus for example by experience to such I shall direct my speech who canno● witnesse the day dawned nor the day-star risen in their hearts nor hath heard the voice from the excellent Glory to such I say That which I have seen and heard the visions power and glory wherein I am an eye witnesse of his glory and of his appearance this I may declare and write unto you and you may believe it But to such I say It is more sure for them to take heed to the light that shines in the dark place till they come to witnesse in ●hemselves the day dawned and day-star risen and the Son of God made manifest in them then to take heed to the words which I have declared though it be a true testimony for the Apostle did not write to himself nor say that it was more sure unto him bu● unto them unto whom he wrote his Epistle for unto him no Word of Prophesie was more sure then that which he had seen and heard when he was with Christ in the holy Mount So this may inform your understandings who have more desir● to know the truth then to oppose it and may put to silence the vain disputings by men of corrupt minds who are destitute of the truth alwayes corrupting the words of truth to oppose the life of it as many such there are in these dayes which the Lord hath and will rebuke sharply that they may be asham●d but all who are led and guided by the light of Christ shall know the annointing in them and the word of faith yea the Son of God He that can receive it without offenc● let him 5. Obj. But he that hath opposed us saith in pag. 25. of his Book in the second part That the dawning of the day is rather an evening then a morning Ans. Now let all which have but known a day and a night in the Creation judge whether the evening or the morning be the dawnings of the day or whether the day-star be a fore-runner of the day or of the night then it will not be incredible which I have said before that he calls darknesse light and light darknesse but in such things our opposers will not receive a good report from those which can give true judgement and to such it is left to judge of those things Obj. Again he saith in pag. 35. That the spirit of truth was not a Comforter to the Apostles nor a reprover to the world before Christ was ascended and yet himself to contradict himself saith that he was in them before and dwelt in them the same spirit but not the same measure Ans. Here is Babylon at the height fit to be pul'd down but needs little answering seeing that i● answereth it self and for such reasons as these he might well conceal his name And if he could have put this off by hiding his Name for an Hosanna to the Son of David or A Testimony to the Lords Christ then he might well have boasted and have gloryed in his shame as if there had been
practice shall stand for a witnesse and for a condemnation against all the accusers and now seeing that their occasion is taken away their accusations may cease and if such Prophe●s be deceived then let them consider who hath deceived them I the Lord hath deceived that Prophet Therefore what would such a Prophet think of the Apostles words when he saith There must come a falling away first that the man of sin may be revealed Would he or could he judge this a ●haracter that the day of of Christ were at hand or that through such things the power of it should be made more manifest or that those among whom these things were wrought should be thereby the more united To believe this will bring men even to their wi●s end it being so contrary to their thoughts and conceivings and this may w●ll con●ound their wisdome and turn them backward and bring them to question the truth of all that which ever they have written spoken o● acted against th●se whom the Lord hath manifested his power and work among contrary to their judgement and discerning for the wayes and workings of the Lord is deep and his secrets are with those that fear him and not with those that despise his appearance and speak evil of that they know not and the Lord will yet work greater things in the earth that such may be confounded And what wil such say if the words of Daniel the Prophet be fulfilled in these dayes saying And some of them of understanding shall fall to try them and to purge and to make them white ●ven to the time of the ●nd c. Dan. 11. ●5 Doth not God he●eby try men and try their spirits and try their discernings should any in such cases judge before the time the Lord make it manifest for this cause will God bring such into judgement Therefore I say unto you that your strength is to sit still and let the Lord alone and let his people alone and let him work his own work in his own way and presume not to be his counseller for who have known the mind of the Lord let such as have dwell in it and preserve knowledge so shall they alwayes abide in strength and power and Union with the Lord and one with another and men shall yet know for all that hath been that we are his Disciples because we love one another and none shall make our glorying and rejoycing in the unity of the spirit and in the love of God void but it shall abound more and more to torment the spirit of enmity which would break it or accuse us for professing of it but over that spirit we are in the Lord But what if some should rise up even from among our selves speaking perverse things and draw Disciples after them and go out from us as they did from among the Apostles that it might be made manifest that they were not all of us Ought this to be laid to our charge Or ought the way of God to be accused because of such things to be Heresie or Schisme If this seem to you an evident token of perdition and of error yet to us of Salvation and that of God And we are assured that we are of God having the witness in our selves yet not bearing witness of our selves for there is one that beareth witness of us even the Father which is in Heaven and his witness is true being unto us a seal of assurance Therefore from henceforth this is a Warning to small and great that they no further proceed in that which is both unnecessary and unseasonable For this I say unto all such that it is unnecessary and unseasonable to seek to perswade us that the truth is error or that the light which every man is enlightned withal is the spirit of every man for that is not according to the record which God hath given of his son nor which the son hath given of the light but blessed be that day and blessed for ever be that power in which a seed is brought forth unto which the Father ha●● given ●●●u● testimony in which they shall never be confounded which abide faithful for great is the mystery of godliness God manifest in the flesh and against this manifestation is the power of darkness risen up and all the messengers and ministers of Satan under all Forms and professions hath joyned themselves together to make their arm strong against the Son of righteousness his righteous life and righteous wayes which now he is bringing forth among his children but out of the mouth of Babes hath God ordained strength against which all the powers of darkness cannot prevail and unto which strength all our enemies must bend and bow and come for salvation For that which now the leaders of the people have set themselves against when they have finished their course and the anguish comes over their souls then will they confess That it had been well if they had loved the light and walked in it which they have so long hated and dispised with those that walk in it and all those which have exercised their strength to shut others out of the kingdom of God by their Preaching Printing and false Accusations they shall know that while they serve sin they are free from righteousness and do keep others from it But the time is coming that their mouths must be stopped and the Lord w●ll cause his everlasting righteousness to spread abroad as broad Rivers and streams unquenchable and nothing shall hinder it and this is the day in which the Lord will try those that dwell upon the earth as he hath tryed many and measured them by a true Line and hath found them deceitful although they have made profession of his name and of his words for a cloak for their iniquity But now the light is come into the world and there remain● no more cloak for their sins nor hiding place for their iniquitie The End