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A49426 Part of Lucian made English from the originall, in the yeare 1638 by Jasper Mayne ..., to which are adjoyned those other dialogues of Lucian as they were formerly translated by Mr. Francis Hicks. Lucian, of Samosata.; Mayne, Jasper, 1604-1672.; Hickes, Francis, 1566-1631. 1663 (1663) Wing L3434; ESTC R32905 264,332 418

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Mercury Stand forth in the midst O yes I sell a most rare pair of mortals and cry a couple of the wisest of all Philosophers Merchant O Iupiter how unlike they are One alwaies laughs the other seems to lament some body and incessantly weeps Why do you laugh so my Friend Democritus Because all your businesse and selves seem to me things to be laught at Merchant How do you laugh at us and flight our affaires as things of nought Democritus Even so They have nothing considerable in them but all things are vanity an endlesse heap of Atomes Merchant 'T is not so you are rather a vain man and unexperienced O Contumely wilt thou not cease to fleer And why weep you good Friend For I hold it much better to talk with you Heraclitus I stranger hold all humane affaires wretched and deplorable wholly lyable to Fate which makes mee thus pitty and bewayle them The things present do not much touch mee but the calamities which are to happen hereafter I mean the conflagration and ruine of the universe are things I thus lament As also to consider that nothing is certaine or fixt but all things are wrapt up in a confusion the same thing pleaseth and offends knowledge and ignorance great and small high and low wheele in a circle and shift order in the May-games of time Merch. What is time Heracl A Boy playing at dice throwing severall chances Merch. What are Men Heracl Mortall Gods Merch. What are Gods Heracl Immortall men Merchant You speake riddles my friend and build Labyrinths and like Apollo speake nothing clearly Heracl I am not to humour you Merchant Nor will any man in his wits buy such a fellow Heracl My custome is to bid all men from their infancie to weep as well those that buy mee as those that buy me not Merchant This is an humour next to madnesse I le buy neither of these Mercury These will lye upon our hands too Iupiter Crye another then Mercury The smooth tongu'd Athenian yonder Iupiter Yes Mercury Come hither you I crye a vertuous and discreet Mortall A most sacred Philosopher who buyes him Merchant Say where most lies your Learning Friend Socrates I teach young Boyes and am a Philosopher of Love Merchant What shall I give for thee for I want a Schoolmaster to a handsome Son I have Socrates Who is fitter then I to converse with a fair Boy who am not a lover of their bodies but hold their souls only beautifull And though they lye with me under the same Rugge yet you shall not hear them complain of my misusage Merchant 'T is incredible being a Buggerer as you are you should only affect their soul especially having them in your power under the same Coverlet Socrates I swear by a Dog and Plane-tree 't is so as I tell you Merchant O Hercules what a disparagement is this to the Gods Socrates Why is not a Dog think you a God what think you of Anubis in Aegypt and of the Dog-star in Heaven and Cerberus in Hell Merchant You say true I mistook indeed Pray what is your profession Socrates I build to my selfe a City observe a strange Policy and prescribe my own Laws Merchant I would fain hear one of your Institutions Socrates Hear then one of the greatest concerning Wedlock I would have no man have his Wife to himself but in common with any that should desire her Merchant Would you have the Lawes concerning Adultery repealed then Socrates Yes and all such petty Statutes Merchant How would you dispose of amiable boyes Socrates They should be for rewards to the vertuous who had atchieved any famous and youthfull Exploit Merchant How bountifull you are And pray what is the summe of your wisdome Socrates Idea's and patterns of things For of all these things which you see as the Earth things in the Earth heaven and Sea there are certain invisible Images and idea's out of the world Merchant Where do they reside Socrates No where For if they were any where they were not Merchant I see no such Idea's as you speak of Socrates No marvell the eye of your mind is blind I plainly see the Images of all things you unappearing my self elsewhere and in a word all things double Merchant Well Sir since you are so wise and quick-sighted I 'le buy you What will you take for him Cryer Mercury Two Talents Merchant I 'le give what ere you ask To morrow the money shall be paid in Mercury What may I call your name Merchant Dion of Syracuse Mercury Send you a good penny-worth Epicurus I call you next Who will buy this Philosopher He was Schollar to that Laugher and Drunkard whom I cryed before only he excells them in one thing that is he is much more an Atheist In all things else he is a pleasant Joviall companion Merchant What 's his price Mercury Two Drachmes Merchant There they are but pray tell me first what Diet he is of Mercury He loves Sweet-meats and Preserves especially dried Figs. Merchant These are of easy provision I will buy him Figs by the Freyle Iupiter Call forth another that rough skinn'd sowr lookt Stoick Mercury You say well The whole multitude expect him O yes I sell Vertue it selfe a most accomplisht mortall Who desires to know all things alone Merchant How say you Mercury Marry that this Philosopher is only wise only beautifull only just valiant a King Rhetorician rich a Law-giver and all things alse Merchant Pray Sir is he a Cook too Mercury And a Tanner and Mason and what you will Merchant 'T is very likely Come hither friend and tell me your Buyer who you are But first whither it grieve you not to be sold and made a servant Chrysippus Not at all for these are things not in our power And whatsoever is not in our power is to be held indifferent Merchant I understand you not Chrysippus How Do you not understand that some of these things are proegmenicall others not proegmenicall Merchant Nor yet do I conceive you Chrysippus No marvell you are not accustomed to our Termes Nor have you a capable fancy But a student who hath learned the Theory of Logick knowes not only such words but what accidents are and praeter accidents and how they differ Merchant For Philosophy sake without envy tell me what is accident and praeter-accident For I am confounded with your quaint Termes Chrysippus Without reservation then if one be lame and through lamenesse stumble against a stone and unexpectedly receive a hurt his lamenesse was accidentall to him his hurt praeter-accidentall Merchant Miraculously acute What else do you chiefly professe to know Chrysippus Nets of speech by which I entangle and ensnare those I talke with make them hold their peace by putting a bridle to their mouth The name of the power by which I do this is celebrated Syllogisme Merchant By Hercules It must be of a strong and resistlesse vertue Chrysippus Pray marke Have you a good childe
Greeke Iupiter Nor have I languages enough to speake to Scythians Persians Thracians and Gawles I thinke it best therefore to enjoyne them silence by beckening with my hand Iupiter Doe soe Mercury Harke they are all as mute as Pythagoreans Begin your speech All their eyes are fixt upon you expecting what you will say Iupiter I will not conceale my distemper from thee Mercury being my sonne Thou knowest what a confident and sterne voyced speaker I am Mercury I do and have trembled at your speeches especially when you threatned to draw up from the deep the earth sea Gods and all by letting downe your golden chaine Iupiter Yet partly with the Apprehension of the instant dangers partly with the greatnesse of the Assembly which Thou seest is numerous and solemne I am confounded and dasht and my tongue is fetter'd and tyed Besides what is yet worse I have forgot the preface which I made to my speech that I might gaine the more favourable entrance into their Attentions Mercury You marre all Iupiter They will presently suspect your silence and expect to heare some great mischiefe from your delay Iupiter Shall I then speake Homers prooem to them Mercury What is 't Iupiter Listen to mee yee Gods and Goddesses Mercury Fye you have cloyd us with such prefaces already If you will take my counsell perplex not your selfe with verse but take one of Demosthenes Orations against Philip and alter it to your purpose 't is the practice of many moderne Orators Iupiter Thou sayest well 'T is a Compendious way of Rhetoricke and lyes open and prepared for those who are unprovided Thus then I begin I suppose O yee men and Gods it will bee in stead of great fortunes to you to heare me declare the Cause why I have call'd you together 'T will therefore become you to lend mee cheerfull attention The present occasion doth almost vocally instruct us to make prevention of our present dangers with which wee all seeme too coldly affected I will therefore borrowing no longer preface from Demosthenes clearly open to you the reasons why in great perplexitie I have summond this Parliament Yesterday you know Mnesitheus the Pilot offer'd a Sacrifice for the preservation of his ship almost wrackt neere the Promontory of Caphareus And feasted as many of us in the Piraeum as he call'd to the Sacrifice After the oblation you all departed severall wayes as your businesse led you Onely I towards evening return'd to the Citty to walke in the Keramick considering with my selfe Mnesitheus thrift who entertain'd sixteen Gods with the sacrifice of one ancient decayd rheumatick Cock and foure graines of musty wither'd incense which vanisht in the kindling and sent not up smoake enough to touch the tip of our noses though he vowed whole Hecatombes when his ship was ready to dash upon the rocks and sinke With these contemplations I was carried on to the painted gallery where I saw a vast crowde of people some standing within the Schoole others without others very earnest and loud sitting upon benches I guessing them as indeed they were to be wrangling Philosophers drew neere to heare what they said And wrapping my selfe in a thick cloud presently transformd my self into one of them and stroaking my long beard perfectly resembled a Philosopher Having made my passage with my elbow I enter'd unknowne who I was where I found that Atheist Damis the Epicurean and the best of men Timocles the Stoick hotly disputing Timocles had quite lost his voyce with sweating and clamour Damis profusely laughing ceast not to provoke him Their vvhole disputation vvas concerning us vvhom the wicked Damis affirmed to be void of providence and not to reguard the affaires of men vvhich is to maintaine us not to be at all And this he proved vvith great strength of Argument and the applause of many On the contrary Timocles vvell studied in our cause encounter'd abhoried and repelled his proofes Much extolling our providence and shovving how wee rule dispose and give order to all thinges in the world Nor did hee want some who praysed him Onely hee was tired and spoke feebly which turn'd all the eyes of the multitude upon Damis But I apprehending our danger caused night to close upon them and dissolve the meeting whereupon they divided upon agreement the next day to give an issue to the disquisition At their departure I mingled my selfe vvith the presse and heard them magnifie Damis's Arguments and extoll them above measure Some also there were vvho vvould not prejudge the opposite side but kept themselves in suspense what Timocles would urge the next morning These are the motives for which I call'd you together which are not slight O yee Gods if you consider that all our honour glory and reverence proceed from men If they then be once perswaded either that there are no Gods or if there be that they fall not under our providence we shall no longer receive Sacrifices gifts or honour from the earth But shall here sit neglected in heaven famisht and deprived of our Feasts Holydaies Games Oblations and night Solemnities I hold it therefore fit that wee unanimously advise upon some remedy against those dangers And how Timocles may prevaile and appeare to be in the truth and Damis may be exposed to the laughter of the Auditors I am not confident that Timocles of himselfe can conquer unlesse we lend him our assistance Make legall proclamations therefore Mercury that vvhosoever will may stand up and speake Mercury Hearken All with silence If any of the perfect Gods have ought to say hee is permitted to speake How 's this Not one stand up Or are you struck dumb with the feare of what you have heard Momus Bee all as speechlesse as the earth and sea If you will give mee liberty of utterance Iupiter I have many things to say Iupiter Speake boldly Momus thy freedome doth promise good counsell Momus Afford mee your Attentions then All yee Gods I have long expected that our affaires should be driven to those straights and that many such Sophisters should spring up who take the cause of their boldnesse from us Nor ought wee in equity to be displeased with Epicurus or his followers and successors in that Sect for their opinions of us For what apprehension of us can they have who see such a tumult and disorder in things good men despised and afflicted with poverty sicknesse and thraldome corrupt and wicked men held in veneration overflowing with wealth and bearing rule over the Vertuous Some to scape punishment with sacriledge others to bee crucifyed and rackt for innocence when they see such an unequall disposition of thinges they may dispute whether there bee such thinges as Gods Especially when they heare such ambiguous oracles as these Halys past Thou an empire shalt dissolve Not explayning whither his owne Empire or the enemies Againe Thou Salamis shalt womens sonnes destroy Which held both for Persians and Greekes who I beleeve were womens sonnes Againe when