power_n give_v he_o by_o the_o key_n and_o by_o his_o pastoral_n commission_n which_o do_v import_v authority_n power_n jurisdiction_n and_o government_n 20._o therefore_o m._n andrews_n deny_v s._n peter_n preeminence_n in_o authority_n and_o government_n deny_v the_o primacy_n that_o the_o father_n teach_v and_o reduce_v it_o only_o to_o a_o bare_a name_n without_o effect_n and_o so_o do_v nothing_o else_o indeed_o but_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d yea_o and_o if_o we_o well_o consider_v what_o he_o say_v we_o shall_v find_v that_o he_o grant_v not_o so_o much_o as_o the_o very_a word_n or_o name_n of_o primacy_n or_o at_o least_o if_o he_o do_v he_o contradict_v himself_o for_o what_o be_v trow_v you_o those_o voculae_fw-la which_o he_o except_v from_o his_o grant_n when_o he_o say_v that_o there_o be_v nothing_o in_o these_o place_n of_o the_o father_n which_o may_v not_o present_o be_v grant_v nisi_fw-la voculam_fw-la fortè_fw-la habent_fw-la etc._n etc._n except_o some_o little_a word_n perhaps_o word_n what_o little_a word_n i_o say_v be_v that_o which_o can_v be_v grant_v be_v it_o not_o primatus_fw-la caput_fw-la and_o some_o such_o other_o word_n as_o signify_v primacy_n yes_o true_o for_o no_o other_o voculae_fw-la or_o voces_fw-la in_o those_o place_n of_o the_o father_n do_v so_o much_o molest_v he_o nevertheless_o he_o have_v no_o soon_o except_v they_o from_o his_o grant_n but_o he_o grant_v they_o present_o say_v non_fw-la negamus_fw-la primatum_fw-la petri_n etc._n etc._n we_o do_v not_o deny_v the_o primacy_n of_o peter_n nor_o those_o name_n which_o signify_v primacy_n which_o be_v a_o strange_a kind_n of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o he_o wrangle_v with_o himself_o contradict_v himself_o notable_o within_o the_o space_n of_o two_o line_n first_o signify_v that_o those_o word_n and_o name_n be_v not_o to_o be_v grant_v and_o present_o after_o grant_v they_o as_o no_o way_n prejudicial_a to_o his_o doctrine_n 21._o and_o to_o the_o end_n we_o may_v understand_v that_o he_o grant_v we_o nothing_o but_o word_n and_o name_n he_o distinguish_v the_o same_o from_o the_o thing_n itself_o which_o he_o mean_v to_o deny_v and_o yet_o so_o handle_v the_o matter_n that_o he_o do_v still_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d reduce_v also_o his_o denial_n to_o a_o mere_a quarrel_n of_o word_n devise_v by_o himself_o and_o neither_o use_v nor_o mean_v by_o we_o either_o in_o word_n or_o sense_n for_o he_o call_v rem_fw-la ipsam_fw-la question_n the_o thing_n itself_o which_o be_v signify_v by_o our_o primacy_n terrestrem_fw-la monarchiam_fw-la a_o earthly_a monarchy_n and_o in_o another_o place_n he_o also_o term_v it_o 20._o temporalem_fw-la primatum_fw-la a_o temporal_a primacy_n and_o this_o forsooth_o be_v that_o which_o he_o deny_v here_o and_o so_o deny_v no_o part_n of_o our_o doctrine_n but_o a_o foolish_a conceit_n of_o his_o own_o for_o although_o we_o hold_v and_o teach_v that_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n be_v a_o monarchy_n and_o that_o the_o power_n thereof_o do_v extend_v itself_o to_o temporal_a thing_n in_o such_o sort_n and_o for_o such_o reason_n as_o i_o have_v touch_v in_o the_o first_o 21._o chapter_n of_o this_o adjoinder_n and_o handle_v at_o large_a in_o my_o 69._o supplement_n yet_o it_o neither_o be_v nor_o can_v be_v call_v temporal_a or_o earthly_a otherwise_o then_o as_o s._n hilary_n call_v s._n peter_n judicial_a sentence_n terrena_fw-la iudicia_fw-la when_o he_o say_v terrena_fw-la eius_fw-la iudicia_fw-la sunt_fw-la caelestia_fw-la his_o earthly_a judgement_n that_o be_v to_o say_v trinit_fw-la his_o sentence_n give_v on_o earth_n be_v heavenly_a 22._o and_o so_o i_o say_v that_o albeit_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n may_v in_o this_o sense_n be_v call_v earthly_a to_o wit_n because_o it_o be_v exercise_v upon_o earth_n yet_o it_o be_v not_o earthly_a or_o temporal_a but_o spiritual_a and_o heavenly_a both_o because_o it_o be_v a_o spiritual_a and_o heavenly_a power_n and_o also_o because_o it_o be_v guide_v and_o direct_v from_o heaven_n by_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n and_o therefore_o whereas_o m._n andrews_n do_v call_v or_o rather_o nickname_v the_o pope_n supremacy_n a_o temporal_a primacy_n and_o his_o monarchy_n a_o earthly_a monarchy_n because_o he_o punish_v his_o spiritual_a subject_n in_o their_o temporal_a good_n or_o state_n he_o may_v by_o the_o same_o reason_n say_v that_o s._n peter_n and_o s._n paul_n power_n be_v not_o spiritual_a but_o corporal_a and_o temporal_a because_o the_o one_o of_o they_o punish_v ananias_n &_o sapphira_n with_o corporal_a death_n and_o the_o other_o strike_v elimas_n the_o magician_n blind_a 13._o deliver_v the_o incestuous_a corinthian_a to_o satan_n in_o interitum_fw-la carnis_fw-la 5._o to_o the_o destruction_n of_o the_o flesh_n and_o final_o extend_v his_o power_n to_o secular_a and_o political_a matter_n command_v 6._o the_o corinthian_n to_o appoint_v temporal_a judge_n among_o themselves_o rather_o than_o to_o have_v recourse_n to_o the_o tribunal_n and_o judgement_n of_o infidel_n degree_n yea_o m._n andrew_n must_v acknowledge_v himself_o to_o be_v but_o a_o mere_a temporal_a yea_o a_o pecuniary_a pastor_n because_o in_o his_o spiritual_a court_n he_o use_v pecuniary_a mulct_n and_o other_o temporal_a punishment_n as_o i_o have_v show_v before_o in_o the_o first_o 21._o chapter_n by_o all_o this_o it_o appear_v that_o m._n andrews_n deny_v not_o the_o spiritual_a but_o as_o he_o term_v it_o the_o earthly_a monarchy_n and_o temporal_a primacy_n of_o peter_n deny_v nothing_o else_o but_o his_o own_o vain_a and_o idle_a manner_n of_o speech_n express_v only_o a_o foolish_a fancy_n of_o he_o and_o a_o very_a chimaera_n that_o have_v no_o be_v in_o rerum_fw-la natura_fw-la and_o so_o he_o do_v still_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o be_v therefore_o true_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v to_o say_v a_o wrangler_n in_o the_o high_a degree_n 23._o and_o to_o the_o end_n this_o may_v yet_o appear_v more_o manifest_o i_o will_v examine_v his_o answer_n &_o objection_n touch_v another_o point_n in_o controversy_n betwixt_o he_o and_o we_o whereby_o we_o shall_v also_o see_v how_o notable_o he_o wrangle_v cavil_v iuggle_v and_o tryfle_v and_o because_o the_o matter_n and_o his_o manner_n of_o answer_v will_v require_v some_o long_a discourse_n i_o will_v make_v it_o the_o subject_n of_o the_o three_o next_o chapter_n a_o further_a manifestation_n of_o master_n andrews_n his_o trifle_a wrangle_a and_o fraudulent_a humour_n by_o his_o answer_n to_o other_o place_n of_o the_o father_n concern_v prayer_n to_o saint_n which_o he_o devyde_v into_o three_o rank_n whereof_o the_o two_o first_o be_v examine_v in_o this_o chapter_n chap._n vi_o whereas_o the_o cardinal_n undertake_v in_o his_o apology_n 12._o to_o treat_v of_o prayer_n to_o saint_n because_o the_o apology_n for_o the_o oath_n condemn_v the_o use_n cavil_n and_o practice_v of_o it_o in_o the_o catholic_a church_n m._n andrew_n take_v exception_n to_o the_o cardinal_n for_o change_v the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n porrò_fw-la and_o say_v that_o he_o fight_v with_o his_o own_o shadow_n because_o he_o promise_v to_o treat_v the_o intercessione_n sanctorum_fw-la of_o the_o intercession_n of_o saint_n whereas_o that_o which_o the_o king_n condemn_v say_v m._n andrew_n be_v the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n wherein_o he_o also_o note_v this_o difference_n that_o the_o intercession_n of_o saint_n be_v their_o work_n and_o the_o invocation_n of_o they_o be_v we_o and_o that_o the_o king_n deny_v not_o that_o which_o the_o cardinal_n prove_v to_o wit_n that_o the_o saint_n do_v pray_v for_o we_o but_o that_o they_o be_v to_o be_v invocate_v or_o pray_v unto_o which_o say_v m._n andrews_n the_o cardinal_n prove_v not_o 2._o and_o he_o please_v himself_o so_o much_o with_o this_o devise_n that_o he_o do_v often_o inculcate_v the_o same_o urge_v the_o cardinal_n to_o prove_v that_o saint_n may_v be_v invocate_v yea_o produce_v a_o text_n of_o scripture_n to_o prove_v that_o none_o can_v be_v invocate_v but_o god_n verun_v for_o terret_fw-la nos_fw-la apostolus_fw-la say_v he_o utcumque_fw-la vos_fw-la hominem_fw-la habetis_fw-la pro_fw-la levi_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o apostle_n do_v terrify_v we_o how_o light_n soever_o you_o make_v of_o the_o man_n when_o he_o ask_v this_o question_n 10._o quomodo_fw-la invocabunt_fw-la eum_fw-la in_fw-la quem_fw-la non_fw-la crediderunt_fw-la how_o shall_v they_o invocate_v he_o in_o who_o they_o believe_v not_o collection_n for_o you_o perhaps_o have_v find_v a_o way_n how_o a_o man_n may_v invocate_v those_o in_o who_o you_o yourselves_o say_v you_o do_v not_o believe_v whereas_o he_o to_o wit_n the_o apostle_n seem_v then_o to_o have_v find_v no_o way_n thus_o say_v m._n andrews_n wherein_o it_o be_v to_o be_v note_v that_o one_o special_a reason_n why_o he_o reject_v our_o
the_o verity_n of_o the_o christian_a faith_n say_v siâ—e_fw-la deus_fw-la per_fw-la seipsum_fw-la miro_fw-la modo_fw-la etc._n etc._n whether_o god_n do_v work_v these_o thing_n by_o himself_o in_o that_o marvellous_a manner_n â—_o whereby_o he_o work_v temporal_a thing_n be_v himself_o eternal_a or_o whether_o he_o do_v the_o self_n same_o thing_n by_o his_o minister_n or_o whether_o he_o do_v some_o of_o they_o by_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o martyr_n as_o he_o do_v by_o man_n while_o they_o be_v yet_o here_o in_o body_n or_o all_o by_o angel_n who_o he_o command_v invisible_o immutable_o and_o without_o a_o body_n in_o such_o sort_n that_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v say_v to_o be_v do_v by_o the_o martyr_n be_v do_v only_o by_o their_o prayer_n and_o impetration_n &_o not_o also_o by_o their_o operation_n or_o whether_o some_o thing_n be_v do_v by_o these_o mean_n &_o some_o by_o other_o which_o can_v by_o any_o mean_n be_v comprehend_v by_o mortal_a man_n ei_fw-la profectò_fw-la haec_fw-la attestantur_fw-la fidei_fw-la etc._n etc._n all_o these_o true_o do_v give_v testimony_n to_o that_o faith_n wherein_o the_o resurrection_n of_o the_o flesh_n be_v preach_v 16._o thus_o discourse_v this_o holy_a father_n acknowledge_v as_o you_o see_v the_o imbecility_n of_o man_n understanding_n to_o comprehend_v the_o manner_n how_o almighty_a god_n do_v work_v these_o supernatural_a effect_n although_o he_o doubt_v not_o of_o the_o effect_n of_o themselves_o elsewhere_o and_o yet_o forsooth_o m._n andrews_n must_v either_o know_v how_o saint_n do_v hear_v we_o or_o else_o he_o will_v deny_v that_o they_o hear_v we_o notwithstanding_o the_o know_a and_o common_a experience_n that_o the_o church_n of_o god_n have_v always_o have_v thereof_o to_o which_o purpose_n also_o it_o may_v be_v observe_v that_o he_o confess_v himself_o verâ—â—_n elsewhere_o that_o god_n be_v wont_n miraculous_o to_o relieve_v those_o that_o pray_v at_o the_o tomb_n of_o martyr_n and_o yet_o i_o be_o sure_a he_o know_v not_o how_o the_o same_o be_v wrought_v i_o mean_v whether_o god_n do_v it_o by_o himself_o or_o by_o the_o 〈…〉_z of_o the_o martyr_n 〈◊〉_d by_o the_o ministry_n of_o angel_n 〈…〉_z and_o sometime_o by_o 〈…〉_z why_o then_o do_v he_o deny_v here_o that_o sayntâ—_n hear_v we_o because_o he_o be_v not_o sure_a how_o they_o hear_v we_o so_o as_o thou_o see_v good_a reader_n what_o a_o wise_a inference_n he_o have_v make_v with_o his_o proinde_fw-la when_o he_o say_v proinde_fw-la aâ—diant_a necnâ—_n &_o therefore_o a_o man_n be_v not_o sure_a whether_o the_o saint_n hear_v he_o hoc_fw-la because_o he_o be_v undertayne_a quâ—_n natione_fw-la audiant_fw-la compellantâ—â—â—_n by_o what_o â—eanes_n or_o in_o what_o manner_n they_o hear_v he_o when_o he_o call_v upon_o they_o 17._o therefore_o whereas_o he_o say_v that_o our_o doctrine_n concern_v the_o glass_n of_o the_o divine_a essence_n and_o the_o sight_n of_o all_o thing_n therein_o be_v more_o subtle_a than_o solid_a and_o not_o sear_a enough_o to_o our_o selâ—es_n found_v it_o will_v 〈◊〉_d import_n though_o it_o 〈…〉_z see_v that_o we_o do_v not_o thereon_o ground_v our_o doctrine_n that_o saint_n hear_v or_o know_v ouâ—_n prayer_n 〈…〉_z the_o custom_n and_o practice_v of_o the_o whole_a church_n of_o god_n which_o pray_v to_o saint_n 〈◊〉_d therefore_o believe_v that_o they_o hear_v we_o and_o partly_o upon_o evident_a experience_n of_o the_o benefit_n that_o by_o god_n merciful_a providence_n and_o ordinance_n man_n do_v receive_v by_o they_o and_o partly_o also_o upon_o the_o conformity_n thereof_o to_o the_o holy_a scripture_n which_o teach_v not_o only_o that_o the_o angelâ—_n in_o heaven_n do_v rejoice_v at_o the_o repentance_n of_o sinner_n which_o they_o can_v not_o do_v if_o they_o do_v not_o kneeâ—_n 1â—_n it_o but_o also_o that_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o just_a be_v glorify_v 〈◊〉_d aequales_fw-la angelis_n 20._o equal_a to_o angel_n and_o consequent_o have_v the_o like_a knowledge_n that_o they_o have_v beside_o that_o it_o be_v evident_a in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n that_o the_o prophet_n of_o god_n do_v see_v the_o heart_n and_o thought_n of_o man_n 9_o and_o know_v thing_n far_o distant_a from_o themâ—_n samuel_n tell_v unto_o saul_n all_o that_o he_o have_v in_o his_o hart_n 5._o and_o elizâ—â—s_n be_v absent_a see_v hiâ—_n servant_n gâ—â—zi_n take_v gift_n of_o 〈◊〉_d the_o syrians_n and_o discover_v also_o all_o that_o which_o the_o king_n of_o syria_n treat_v in_o his_o cabinet_n 7._o also_o s._n steven_n be_v on_o earth_n do_v see_v our_o saviour_n jesus_n christ_n on_o the_o right_a hand_n of_o his_o father_n in_o heaven_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v absurd_a to_o imagine_v that_o the_o glorify_a saint_n in_o heaven_n can_v not_o see_v or_o know_v what_o be_v do_v on_o earth_n especial_o such_o thing_n as_o concern_v themselves_o and_o the_o honour_n that_o be_v do_v unto_o they_o for_o god_n great_a glory_n and_o the_o prayer_n that_o be_v direct_v to_o they_o for_o the_o relief_n of_o god_n servant_n last_o s._n john_n in_o the_o apocalypse_n signify_v that_o the_o saint_n in_o heaven_n do_v offer_v up_o the_o prayer_n of_o holy_a man_n on_o earth_n â—â—_o which_o they_o can_v not_o do_v if_o they_o do_v not_o understand_v and_o know_v man_n prayer_n 18._o furthermore_o this_o doctrine_n be_v also_o ground_v upon_o the_o clear_a testimony_n of_o the_o father_n who_o teach_v it_o express_o 11._o as_o s._n athanasius_n who_o say_v that_o the_o soul_n of_o saint_n earth_n &_o post_fw-la mortem_fw-la &_o in_o die_v judicij_fw-la cognoscent_fw-la omne_fw-la shall_v know_v all_o thing_n both_o after_o their_o death_n and_o in_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n and_o nullus_fw-la est_fw-la say_v s._n basil_n ex_fw-la hijs_fw-la qui_fw-la non_fw-la singula_fw-la ubique_fw-la consideret_fw-la there_o be_v none_o of_o these_o he_o speak_v of_o angel_n and_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o just_a who_o do_v not_o consider_v every_o thing_n every_o where_o beside_o that_o he_o call_v the_o 40._o martyr_n commune_v humani_fw-la generis_fw-la custodes_fw-la the_o common_a guardian_n or_o keeper_n of_o humane_a kind_n medium_n s._n ambrose_n also_o say_v that_o martyr_n be_v praeâ—ules_n &_o spectatores_fw-la actuum_fw-la nostrorum_fw-la the_o governors_n and_o beholder_n of_o our_o action_n 19_o in_o like_o manner_n s._n hieromâ—_n teach_v â—â—_z that_o it_o be_v write_v of_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o just_a in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n si_fw-la quuntur_fw-la agnum_fw-la quocumque_fw-la ierit_fw-la they_o follow_v the_o lamb_n wheresoever_o he_o goethe_v and_o then_o he_o add_v si_fw-la agnuâ—_fw-la ubique_fw-la etc._n etc._n if_o the_o lamb_n â—e_v every_o be_v therefore_o it_o be_v to_o be_v believe_v that_o those_o also_o who_o be_v with_o the_o lamb_n be_v every_o where_o and_o see_v that_o devil_n go_v all_o the_o world_n over_o and_o by_o reason_n of_o their_o exceed_a great_a celerity_n be_v every_o where_o present_a shall_v martyr_n after_o they_o have_v shed_v their_o blood_n for_o christ_n be_v shut_v up_o as_o it_o be_v in_o a_o coffer_n that_o they_o can_v get_v out_o so_o he_o theodoret_n also_o give_v to_o martyr_n the_o title_n of_o deuce_n principes_fw-la propugnatores_fw-la &_o custodes_fw-la hominum_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o captayn_n the_o prince_n 8._o the_o defender_n and_o guardian_n of_o man_n by_o who_o say_v he_o those_o mischief_n and_o misery_n which_o devil_n do_v inflict_v upon_o we_o be_v avert_v from_o us._n s._n chrysostome_n call_v s._n peter_n corinth_n and_o s._n paul_n and_o patron_n and_o protector_n of_o the_o emperor_n whereupon_o it_o must_v needs_o follow_v that_o those_o bless_a apostle_n and_o other_o saint_n do_v understand_v the_o action_n and_o necessity_n of_o those_o who_o they_o protect_v and_o defend_v â—â—_o 20._o moreover_o s._n augustine_n discourse_v how_o the_o saint_n shall_v see_v god_n in_o heaven_n after_o the_o resurrection_n and_o whether_o they_o shall_v see_v he_o with_o their_o corporal_a eye_n teach_v by_o the_o way_n that_o they_o shall_v then_o see_v all_o thing_n with_o the_o eye_n of_o the_o spirit_n etiam_fw-la unde_fw-la sunt_fw-la corpore_fw-la absentes_fw-la even_o whence_o they_o be_v absent_a in_o body_n and_o this_o he_o prove_v ample_o by_o the_o example_n of_o elizaeus_n who_o be_v absent_a from_o his_o servant_n giezi_n see_v he_o take_v gift_n of_o naaman_n â—_o and_o therefore_o say_v unto_o he_o nun_n cor_fw-la meum_fw-la in_o praesenti_fw-la erat_fw-la etc._n etc._n be_v not_o my_o hart_n present_a with_o thou_o when_o the_o man_n come_v from_o his_o chariot_n to_o meet_v thou_o and_o thou_o take_v the_o money_n whereupon_o s._n augustine_n say_v cord_n svo_fw-la ergo_fw-la se_fw-la dixit_fw-la hoc_fw-la vidisse_fw-la propheta_fw-la etc._n etc._n therefore_o the_o prophet_n say_v that_o he_o see_v this_o with_o his_o hart_n be_v no_o doubt_n admirable_o help_v by_o almighty_a god_n but_o how_o much_o
nothing_o be_v to_o be_v believe_v or_o practise_v in_o the_o church_n whereof_o there_o be_v no_o commandment_n or_o example_n in_o scripture_n which_o you_o have_v hear_v seq_n already_o confute_v as_o well_o by_o the_o authority_n of_o scripture_n and_o father_n as_o also_o by_o our_o adversaries_n own_o seq_n doctrine_n approve_v the_o practice_n of_o thing_n not_o command_v any_o where_o in_o scripture_n as_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n the_o use_n of_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n &_o godfather_n and_o godmother_n in_o baptism_n whereto_o i_o may_v add_v the_o tradition_n of_o keep_v sunday_n holy_a day_n in_o it_o memory_n of_o the_o resurrection_n of_o our_o saviour_n with_o abstinence_n from_o servile_a work_n also_o the_o observation_n of_o easter_n pentecost_n and_o such_o feast_n and_o diverse_a other_o thing_n consist_v in_o matter_n of_o practice_n 56._o if_o then_o they_o approve_v and_o practise_v these_o thing_n although_o they_o be_v not_o command_v or_o ordain_v in_o scripture_n what_o reason_n have_v they_o to_o reject_v prayer_n to_o saint_n because_o there_o be_v no_o commandment_n or_o example_n of_o it_o in_o scripture_n when_o nevertheless_o it_o be_v most_o conform_a thereto_o and_o deduce_v from_o it_o as_o i_o have_v partly_o show_v 31._o already_o by_o a_o inafallible_a rule_n of_o s._n augustine_n see_v it_o be_v approve_v by_o that_o church_n which_o the_o scripture_n command_v we_o to_o 18._o hear_v believe_v and_o obey_v besides_o that_o it_o be_v evident_a in_o scripture_n that_o charity_n which_o move_v and_o oblige_v man_n to_o pray_v one_o for_o another_o in_o this_o life_n 1â—_n nunquam_fw-la excidit_fw-la as_o the_o apostle_n teach_v never_o decay_v but_o be_v more_o perfect_a in_o the_o next_o life_n it_o follow_v not_o only_o that_o the_o saint_n do_v pray_v for_o we_o which_o m._n andrews_n grant_v but_o also_o that_o we_o may_v crave_v their_o prayer_n saint_n for_o it_o be_v most_o absurd_a to_o think_v that_o we_o may_v not_o request_v they_o to_o do_v that_o which_o be_v most_o correspondent_a to_o their_o charity_n and_o they_o will_v most_o willing_o perform_v 57_o furthermore_o see_v that_o the_o scripture_n do_v teach_v we_o to_o crave_v the_o prayer_n and_o help_n of_o our_o brethren_n live_v there_o can_v be_v no_o reason_n imagine_v why_o we_o shall_v not_o also_o do_v the_o same_o when_o they_o be_v glorify_v in_o heaven_n but_o either_o because_o they_o do_v not_o hear_v or_o understand_v our_o prayer_n or_o because_o they_o be_v not_o willing_a or_o not_o able_a to_o help_v we_o but_o that_o they_o hear_v we_o i_o have_v sufficient_o prove_v already_o and_o have_v also_o answer_v m._n andrews_n his_o cavil_n concern_v the_o same_o and_o he_o neither_o deny_v nor_o seem_v to_o doubt_v either_o that_o they_o be_v willing_a to_o succour_v we_o 24._o consider_v the_o perfection_n of_o their_o charity_n or_o yet_o that_o they_o be_v able_a to_o do_v it_o see_v he_o grant_v they_o do_v pray_v for_o we_o &_o if_o he_o shall_v deny_v it_o or_o that_o their_o prayer_n may_v avayle_v we_o as_o vigilantius_n &_o his_o follower_n do_v in_o time_n past_a sanctis_fw-la and_o zuinglius_fw-la with_o other_o sectary_n have_v do_v in_o these_o our_o day_n he_o may_v easy_o be_v convince_v by_o the_o holy_a scripture_n which_o witness_n that_o god_n grant_v the_o petition_n of_o his_o servant_n even_o when_o they_o be_v here_o subject_a to_o sin_n 22._o and_o misery_n and_o have_v mercy_n on_o sinner_n for_o the_o merit_n of_o the_o just_a as_o well_o dead_a as_o live_v and_o therefore_o the_o prophet_n pray_v ne_fw-la auferas_fw-la misericordiam_fw-la tuam_fw-la etc._n etc._n do_v not_o take_v away_o thy_o mercy_n from_o we_o o_o lord_n 3._o for_o thy_o belove_a abraham_n and_o thy_o servant_n isaac_n and_o thy_o holy_a israel_n and_o we_o read_v in_o the_o book_n of_o king_n that_o for_o david_n sake_n god_n do_v mitigate_v his_o wrath_n towards_o solomon_n 11._o and_o save_v also_o the_o kingdom_n of_o juda_n from_o destruction_n in_o the_o reign_n of_o joram_n 21._o and_o ezechias_n 19_o 58._o in_o like_o manner_n god_n pardon_v job_n friend_n for_o his_o sake_n 42._o and_o direct_v they_o unto_o he_o to_o crave_v his_o prayer_n for_o they_o also_o for_o the_o prayer_n of_o moses_n he_o have_v mercy_n on_o the_o people_n 32._o and_o the_o like_v we_o read_v in_o the_o new_a testament_n whereupon_o s._n hierome_n say_v to_o vigilantius_n thus_o vigilantium_fw-la si_fw-mi apostoli_fw-la &_o martyr_n etc._n etc._n if_o the_o apostle_n and_o martyr_n be_v here_o in_o body_n can_v pray_v for_o other_o while_o they_o ought_v to_o be_v careful_a for_o themselves_o how_o much_o more_o may_v they_o do_v it_o after_o their_o crown_n victory_n and_o triumph_n one_o moses_n obtain_v of_o god_n pardon_n for_o six_o hundred_o thousand_o arm_a man_n and_o steven_n the_o follower_n of_o his_o lord_n 32._o and_o first_o martyr_n in_o christ_n crave_v pardon_n for_o his_o persecutor_n and_o shall_v they_o now_o be_v able_a to_o do_v less_o when_o they_o be_v with_o christ_n 7._o paul_n the_o apostle_n say_v that_o 276._o man_n life_n be_v give_v he_o in_o the_o ship_n 27._o and_o therefore_o now_o when_o he_o be_v dissolve_v and_o with_o christ_n will_v he_o hold_v his_o peace_n and_o shall_v he_o not_o be_v able_a so_o much_o as_o to_o open_v his_o mouth_n for_o those_o which_o have_v believe_v by_o his_o preach_n throughout_o the_o world_n and_o shall_v vigilantius_n a_o live_a dog_n be_v better_a than_o a_o dead_a lion_n thus_o argue_v s._n hierome_n by_o a_o argument_n a_fw-fr fortiori_fw-la ground_v on_o the_o scripture_n to_o show_v the_o extreme_a absurdity_n of_o vigilantius_n the_o heretic_n who_o deny_v that_o the_o saint_n in_o heaven_n do_v pray_v for_o we_o and_o be_v able_a to_o help_v us._n 59_o and_o this_o ability_n of_o saint_n to_o help_v man_n be_v to_o be_v ascribe_v not_o only_o to_o the_o effect_n of_o their_o prayer_n but_o also_o to_o their_o power_n 1â—_n authority_n and_o dignity_n see_v that_o christ_n who_o be_v the_o king_n of_o king_n 28._o &_o lord_n of_o lord_n &_o have_v all_o power_n in_o heaven_n and_o earth_n give_v he_o by_o his_o father_n power_n do_v in_o the_o apocalips_n promise_n to_o his_o saint_n a_o communication_n and_o participation_n of_o his_o own_o kingdom_n dominion_n and_o power_n over_o man_n qui_fw-la vicerit_fw-la say_v he_o dabo_fw-la sedere_fw-la mecum_fw-la etc._n etc._n he_o that_o shall_v overcome_v i_o will_v give_v unto_o he_o to_o sit_v with_o i_o in_o my_o throne_n as_o i_o also_o have_v overcome_v and_o sit_v with_o my_o father_n in_o his_o throne_n dabo_fw-la ei_fw-la potestatem_fw-la super_fw-la gentes_fw-la etc._n etc._n 3_o i_o will_v give_v he_o power_n over_o nation_n 2._o and_o he_o shall_v rule_v they_o etc._n etc._n and_o according_a to_o this_o promise_n of_o our_o saviour_n the_o saint_n also_o say_v to_o he_o in_o the_o apocalips_n 5._o redimisti_fw-la nos_fw-la deo_fw-la in_o sanguine_fw-la tuo_fw-la etc._n etc._n thou_o have_v redeem_v we_o to_o god_n in_o thy_o blood_n and_o have_v make_v we_o to_o our_o god_n a_o kingdom_n and_o priest_n and_o we_o shall_v reign_v upon_o the_o earth_n and_o this_o may_v be_v confirm_v out_o of_o the_o book_n of_o wisdom_n 3â—_n which_o say_v that_o the_o just_a when_o they_o shall_v be_v glorify_v iudicabunt_fw-la nationes_fw-la &_o dominabuntur_fw-la populis_fw-la etc._n etc._n shall_v judge_v nation_n and_o shall_v have_v dominion_n over_o people_n and_o in_o like_a manner_n the_o psalmist_n say_v speak_v of_o the_o glory_n of_o god_n saint_n exultabunt_fw-la sancti_fw-la in_o gloria_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o saint_n shall_v exult_v 14â—_n and_o rejoice_v in_o glory_n etc._n etc._n they_o shall_v have_v two_o edge_a sword_n in_o their_o hand_n to_o take_v revenge_n upon_o nation_n and_o to_o chastise_v people_n to_o tie_v their_o king_n in_o fetter_n and_o their_o noble_a man_n in_o iron_n manacle_n etc._n etc._n thus_o say_v the_o royal_a prophet_n 60._o and_o albeit_o this_o shall_v be_v special_o 19_o and_o most_o manifest_o fulfil_v at_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n â—2_n when_o the_o saint_n of_o god_n shall_v assist_v our_o saviour_n in_o the_o judgement_n country_n and_o condemnation_n of_o the_o wicked_a yet_o it_o can_v be_v deny_v but_o that_o also_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n it_o be_v verify_v in_o the_o power_n and_o dominion_n that_o god_n impart_v to_o his_o saint_n give_v they_o the_o protection_n of_o city_n country_n and_o man_n as_o it_o appear_v evident_o by_o innumerable_a example_n which_o may_v be_v allege_v of_o kingdom_n and_o city_n defend_v god_n servant_n relieve_v and_o his_o enemy_n destroy_v by_o they_o 19_o for_o which_o cause_n the_o ancient_a father_n do_v worthy_o call_v they_o the_o keeper_n of_o human_a kind_n governor_n of_o
only_o the_o cardinal_n but_o also_o the_o ancient_a father_n counsel_n and_o holy_a scripture_n and_o final_o to_o face_n out_o matter_n impudent_o for_o lack_v of_o proof_n chap._n ix_o pag._n 361._o that_o m._n andrews_n overthrow_v his_o own_o cause_n and_o fortify_v we_o grant_v many_o important_a point_n of_o catholic_a religion_n that_o he_o be_v turn_v puritan_n in_o the_o point_n of_o the_o king_n ecclesiastical_a supremacy_n and_o betray_v his_o majesty_n cause_n underhand_o pretend_v to_o defend_v it_o and_o therefore_o be_v neither_o good_a english_a protestant_n nor_o yet_o good_a subject_n last_o what_o be_v the_o opinion_n of_o learned_a stranger_n concern_v he_o and_o his_o book_n with_o a_o good_a advice_n for_o a_o friendly_a farewell_n chap._n x._o pag._n 329._o a_o appendix_n touch_v a_o register_n allege_v by_o m._n franc._n mason_n for_o the_o lawful_a ordain_v of_o protestant_a bishop_n in_o q._n elizabeth_n reign_n the_o author_n intention_n be_v declare_v and_o m._n d._n andrew_n his_o interpretation_n of_o pasce_fw-la oves_fw-la meas_fw-la examine_v and_o confute_v furthermore_o it_o be_v show_v that_o he_o have_v belie_v s._n augustine_n corrupt_v s._n ambrose_n notable_o abuse_v s._n cyril_n vain_o carp_v at_o a_o law_n in_o the_o code_n &_o foolish_o approve_v the_o unlawful_a proceed_n of_o justinian_n the_o emperor_n against_o two_o pope_n chap._n i._n when_o i_o have_v well-near_a end_v my_o supplement_n and_o already_o send_v away_o the_o great_a part_n of_o it_o to_o the_o print_n it_o be_v my_o chance_n to_o have_v a_o sight_n of_o m._n d._n andrew_n his_o answer_n to_o cardinal_n bellarmine_n apology_n and_o consider_v that_o the_o subject_n thereof_o be_v in_o effect_n the_o same_o that_o father_n person_n suplement_n and_o i_o have_v handle_v and_o debate_v with_o m._n barlow_n i_o easy_o persuade_v myself_o that_o i_o shall_v find_v many_o thing_n treat_v by_o m._n andrew_n which_o i_o have_v touch_v in_o my_o supplement_n in_o 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mite_n and_o therefore_o have_v offer_v one_o of_o they_o in_o my_o supplement_n i_o think_v good_a now_o to_o add_v the_o other_o and_o the_o rather_o for_o that_o i_o hope_v by_o the_o same_o mean_n to_o prevent_v the_o cavil_n of_o my_o adversary_n m._n barlow_n who_o otherwise_o may_v perhaps_o in_o his_o reply_n if_o he_o be_v dispose_v to_o make_v any_o blame_v i_o for_o not_o take_v notice_n of_o such_o a_o worthy_a work_n as_o that_o of_o m._n andrew_n and_o either_o turn_v i_o over_o to_o he_o for_o satisfaction_n touch_v those_o point_n or_o else_o make_v use_n of_o his_o answer_n himself_o which_o be_v esteem_v as_o a_o precious_a fruit_n of_o the_o fine_a wit_n and_o curious_a pen_n of_o the_o great_a rabbin_z in_o the_o english_a synagogue_n be_v hold_v no_o doubt_n by_o his_o friend_n and_o follower_n for_o no_o other_o than_o oracle_n of_o apollo_n i_o mean_v both_o infallible_a and_o irrefragable_a for_o which_o cause_n i_o be_o the_o more_o willing_a to_o enter_v 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to_o the_o matter_n for_o as_o much_o as_o one_o of_o the_o chief_a point_n debate_v in_o my_o supplement_n adjoinder_n by_o occasion_n of_o the_o new_a oath_n be_v the_o question_n concern_v the_o supreme_a and_o universal_a authority_n of_o the_o apostolic_a roman_a sea_n which_o authority_n i_o deduce_v special_o from_o the_o pastoral_n commission_n give_v by_o our_o saviour_n to_o s._n peter_n i_o think_v good_a to_o examine_v of_o what_o worth_n seq_n and_o weight_n m._n andrew_n his_o answer_n be_v touch_v the_o same_o especial_o in_o his_o 16._o &_o 17._o page_n where_o he_o labour_v serious_o to_o prove_v three_o way_n against_o cardinal_n bellarmine_n that_o our_o saviour_n word_n to_o s._n peter_n 16._o pasce_fw-la oves_fw-la meas_fw-la allege_v and_o learned_o urge_v by_o the_o cardinal_n do_v make_v nothing_o for_o us._n 2._o first_o he_o say_v that_o s._n augustine_n affirm_v that_o s._n peter_n have_v no_o peculiar_a increase_n by_o the_o word_n pasce_fw-la and_o that_o 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to_o he_o do_v thou_o love_v i_o feed_v my_o sheep_n it_o be_v say_v to_o all_o and_o therefore_o the_o catholic_n church_n ought_v willing_o to_o pardon_v her_o child_n when_o they_o be_v correct_v and_o strengthen_v in_o piety_n see_v we_o see_v that_o to_o peter_n himself_o bear_v the_o person_n of_o the_o church_n pardon_n be_v grant_v both_o when_o he_o have_v doubt_v upon_o the_o sea_n etc._n etc._n and_o when_o he_o have_v thrice_o deny_v his_o master_n etc._n etc._n thus_o say_v s._n augustine_n declare_v that_o pasce_fw-la oves_fw-la which_o our_o saviour_n say_v to_o s._n peter_n be_v say_v to_o all_o the_o church_n because_o s._n peter_n bear_v the_o person_n of_o the_o church_n which_o he_o do_v by_o reason_n of_o the_o supreme_a authority_n that_o he_o have_v over_o the_o church_n 4._o for_o else_o why_o shall_v rather_o he_o than_o other_o of_o the_o apostle_n be_v say_v to_o represent_v
righteousness_n by_o the_o which_o the_o gate_n of_o heaven_n be_v open_v as_o it_o be_v with_o key_n &_o sic_fw-la say_v he_o in_o singulis_fw-la quibusque_fw-la virtutibus_fw-la and_o so_o also_o in_o all_o other_o virtue_n and_o to_o this_o purpose_n be_v origens_n discourse_n in_o that_o homily_n 5._o now_o than_o who_o see_v not_o here_o that_o he_o leave_v the_o literal_a sense_n altogether_o in_o this_o and_o like_o a_o preacher_n follow_v the_o allegorical_a and_o moral_a thereby_o to_o induce_v his_o audience_n to_o virtue_n and_o withdraw_v they_o from_o vice_n and_o sin_n and_o will_v m._n andrew_n say_v that_o therefore_o origens_n opinion_n be_v that_o peter_n have_v nothing_o promise_v peculiar_o to_o himself_o more_o then_o to_o every_o perfect_a christian_n peter_n so_o shall_v every_o just_a man_n and_o woman_n for_o origâ—n_n speak_v of_o all_o alike_o have_v as_o much_o ecclesiastical_a power_n and_o jurisdiction_n as_o peter_n have_v for_o i_o be_o sure_a m._n andrew_n will_n not_o deny_v but_o that_o when_o christ_n promise_v the_o key_n to_o peter_n he_o promise_v to_o give_v he_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n and_o power_n howsoever_o the_o same_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v i_o mean_v whether_o as_o promise_v to_o himself_o alone_o for_o the_o whole_a church_n as_o we_o understand_v it_o or_o as_o promise_v also_o to_o the_o apostle_n equal_o with_o he_o as_o m._n andrew_n and_o his_o fellow_n will_v have_v it_o and_o therefore_o i_o say_v that_o take_v this_o interpretation_n of_o origen_n for_o the_o literal_a sense_n every_o faithful_a man_n or_o woman_n that_o be_v of_o the_o elect_a have_v as_o much_o power_n to_o bind_v loose_a excommunicate_a and_o exercise_v any_o other_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n as_o peter_n and_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n have_v yea_o to_o be_v not_o only_a pastor_n of_o christ_n flock_n but_o also_o chief_a pastor_n and_o to_o have_v summam_fw-la rerum_fw-la de_fw-la pascendis_fw-la 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number_n then_o according_a to_o this_o interpretation_n if_o it_o be_v literal_a he_o have_v no_o pastoral_a commission_n beside_o it_o will_v follow_v that_o every_o priest_n shall_v have_v as_o much_o authority_n as_o his_o bishop_n &_o every_o bishop_n as_o much_o as_o his_o metropolitan_a yea_o and_o every_o predestinate_a man_n or_o woman_n that_o be_v a_o perfect_a christian_n shall_v have_v as_o much_o as_o any_o of_o they_o or_o as_o they_o all_o see_v that_o all_o they_o can_v have_v no_o more_o than_o summam_fw-la rerum_fw-la de_fw-la pascendis_fw-la ovibus_fw-la the_o chief_a charge_n and_o care_n of_o feed_v christ_n flockâ—_n which_o origen_n say_v be_v give_v to_o peter_n church_n loe_o than_o what_o good_a doctrine_n m._n andrews_n teach_v here_o by_o this_o interpretation_n of_o origen_n if_o he_o will_v have_v it_o to_o be_v literal_a overthrow_v thereby_o all_o subordination_n in_o the_o church_n and_o confound_v the_o ecclesiastical_a with_o the_o secular_a the_o laiety_n with_o the_o clergy_n &_o the_o head_n with_o the_o member_n i_o mean_v the_o spiritual_a pastor_n or_o sheaphearde_n of_o christ_n flock_n with_o their_o sheep_n or_o subject_n which_o true_o he_o will_v not_o do_v if_o he_o be_v not_o as_o silly_a and_o single_a witted_a as_o a_o sheep_n or_o at_o least_o if_o he_o be_v not_o more_o malicious_a than_o a_o sheep_n of_o christ_n flock_n ought_v to_o be_v 7._o therefore_o to_o conclude_v this_o point_n see_v that_o this_o interpretation_n of_o origen_n out_o of_o origen_n serve_v he_o to_o no_o better_a purpose_n than_o the_o other_o do_v before_o out_o of_o s._n augustine_n s._n ambrose_n and_o s._n cyril_n which_o only_o serve_v to_o bewray_v his_o malice_n and_o folly_n supra_fw-la as_o i_o have_v show_v ample_o in_o the_o first_o chapter_n it_o be_v clear_a that_o origens_n testimony_n allege_v by_o the_o cardinal_n concern_v the_o chief_a charge_n of_o feed_v christ_n sheep_n give_v to_o peter_n remain_v clear_a primacy_n and_o sound_v for_o the_o catholic_n to_o be_v take_v in_o the_o literal_a sense_n as_o the_o cardinal_n allege_v it_o especial_o see_v it_o be_v most_o conform_a to_o origens_n doctrine_n in_o other_o place_n as_o in_o his_o homily_n upon_o diverse_a evangelist_n 2._o where_o he_o call_v s._n peter_n summum_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la verticem_fw-la the_o chief_a or_o supreme_a head_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o therefore_o discourse_v also_o afterward_o in_o the_o same_o place_n of_o the_o particular_a privilege_n of_o grace_n give_v by_o our_o saviour_n to_o s._n john_n the_o apostle_n he_o prefer_v nevertheless_o s._n peter_n before_o he_o in_o dignity_n say_v nemo_fw-la nos_fw-la existimet_fw-la petro_n joannem_fw-la prefer_v etc._n etc._n let_v no_o man_n think_v that_o i_o prefer_v john_n before_o peter_n who_o will_v so_o do_v for_o which_o of_o the_o apostle_n be_v hygh_a in_o dignity_n than_o he_o qui_fw-la est_fw-la &_o dicitur_fw-la vertex_fw-la eorum_fw-la who_o be_v call_v and_o be_v their_o head_n so_o he_o and_o i_o be_o sure_a m._n andrews_n can_v not_o imagine_v that_o origen_n deduce_v the_o supreme_a dignity_n of_o peter_n from_o any_o other_o ground_n or_o reason_n but_o because_o he_o have_v summam_fw-la rerum_fw-la de_fw-la pascendis_fw-la ovibus_fw-la the_o chief_a charge_n of_o feed_v christ_n sheep_n and_o be_v the_o foundation_n of_o the_o church_n as_o origen_n acknowledge_v in_o the_o place_n allege_v by_o the_o cardinal_n and_o diverse_a other_o and_o this_o shall_v suffice_v for_o he_o 8._o the_o second_o place_n which_o i_o be_o to_o debate_v with_o m._n andrew_n be_v take_v by_o the_o cardinal_n out_o of_o s._n hylary_n in_o these_o word_n matth._n o_o in_o nuncupatione_fw-la novi_fw-la nominis_fw-la felix_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la fundamentum_fw-la etc._n etc._n o_o happy_a foundation_n of_o the_o church_n in_o the_o nuncupation_n of_o a_o new_a name_n &_o a_o rock_n worthy_a of_o the_o build_n thereof_o defend_v that_o be_v to_o say_v of_o the_o church_n which_o rock_n shall_v dissolve_v or_o break_v the_o law_n of_o hell_n etc._n etc._n thus_o far_o the_o cardinal_n out_o of_o s._n hilary_n to_o prove_v that_o peter_n be_v the_o foundation_n and_o consequent_o the_o head_n of_o the_o church_n whereto_o m._n andrew_n answer_v thus_o exit_fw-la hylario_n felix_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la fundamentum_fw-la petrum_fw-la out_o of_o hilary_n the_o cardinal_n object_v that_o peter_n be_v the_o happy_a foundation_n of_o the_o church_n hylario_n sed_fw-la inter_fw-la alia_fw-la pariter_fw-la fundamenta_fw-la but_o among_o and_o together_o with_o other_o foundation_n so_o he_o mean_v that_o because_o all_o the_o apostle_n be_v call_v in_o the_o scripture_n foundation_n of_o the_o church_n therefore_o s._n peter_n be_v no_o otherwise_o the_o foundation_n thereof_o then_o they_o whereto_o i_o need_v not_o to_o say_v any_o thing_n here_o because_o i_o have_v large_o treat_v the_o same_o point_n in_o the_o three_o chapter_n show_v how_o the_o apostle_n be_v call_v foundation_n of_o the_o church_n 2d_o without_o derogation_n either_o to_o christ_n who_o be_v the_o first_o and_o chief_a foundation_n or_o to_o peter_n who_o be_v the_o second_o immediate_o ground_v upon_o christ_n and_o therefore_o i_o remit_v my_o reader_n thereto_o 9_o and_o now_o to_o go_v forward_o with_o m._n andrew_n his_o answer_n he_o add_v the_o rest_n of_o s._n hilary_n word_n thus_o dignam_fw-la aedificatione_n christi_fw-la petram_fw-la a_o rock_n worthy_a of_o the_o build_n of_o christ_n which_o word_n of_o hilary_n he_o gloss_v thus_o sed_fw-la fidei_fw-la ratione_fw-la etc._n etc._n but_o by_o reason_n or_o mean_n of_o faith_n say_v hilary_n himself_o and_o not_o of_o his_o person_n that_o peter_n may_v depend_v on_o the_o faith_n and_o not_o the_o faith_n upon_o peter_n gloss_n thus_o say_v m._n andrews_n seek_v by_o the_o help_n of_o a_o lie_a gloss_n of_o his_o own_o to_o make_v his_o reader_n believe_v that_o s._n hilary_n do_v so_o admit_v s._n peter_n
christ_n and_o exalt_v angel_n that_o he_o hold_v christ_n to_o be_v but_o pure_a man_n and_o the_o son_n of_o joseph_n and_o that_o angel_n make_v the_o world_n and_o give_v the_o law_n to_o the_o jew_n yea_o that_o a_o angel_n be_v the_o god_n of_o the_o jew_n or_o final_o of_o some_o such_o other_o heretic_n as_o either_o attribute_v divinity_n to_o angel_n or_o make_v they_o mediator_n for_o man_n in_o such_o sort_n as_o those_o phrygian_a heretic_n do_v 〈◊〉_d of_o who_o theodoret_n speak_v which_o be_v to_o exclude_v the_o mediation_n of_o christ_n as_o it_o appear_v evident_o by_o that_o which_o the_o apostle_n add_v say_v &_o non_fw-la tenens_fw-la caput_fw-la ex_fw-la quo_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o not_o hold_v the_o head_n whereof_o the_o whole_a body_n be_v by_o joint_n &_o band_n compact_v &c._n &c._n signify_v that_o he_o speak_v of_o such_o as_o forsake_v the_o head_n to_o wit_n christ_n and_o make_v angel_n the_o chief_a mediator_n of_o their_o reconciliation_n to_o god_n 10._o therefore_o s._n chrysostome_n say_v upon_o that_o place_n of_o s._n paul_n sunt_fw-la nonnulli_fw-la etc._n etc._n there_o be_v some_o which_o do_v say_v that_o we_o must_v not_o come_v to_o god_n the_o father_n and_o be_v reconcile_v to_o he_o by_o christ_n but_o by_o angel_n and_o so_o do_v also_o oecumenius_n and_o theophilactus_fw-la expound_v the_o same_o place_n and_o the_o author_n of_o the_o commentary_n upon_o s._n paul_n epistle_n among_o the_o work_n of_o s._n ambrose_n locum_fw-la say_v that_o the_o apostle_n tax_v there_o such_o as_o adore_v the_o star_n quas_fw-la say_v he_o angelos_n vocat_fw-la he_o call_v angel_n and_o final_o to_o omit_v other_o s._n hierome_n 2._o and_o haymo_n do_v understand_v that_o the_o apostle_n speak_v of_o such_o as_o use_v to_o offer_v sacrifice_n to_o angel_n whereupon_o also_o the_o council_n of_o laodicea_n may_v have_v just_a occasion_n to_o make_v their_o decree_n against_o some_o such_o abominable_a idolatry_n do_v secret_o to_o angel_n in_o their_o day_n 11._o so_o as_o it_o be_v evident_a by_o all_o this_o that_o neither_o the_o apostle_n in_o his_o epistle_n to_o the_o colâ—ssâ—nsesâ—_n theodoret_n noâ—_n theâ—doret_n in_o his_o commentary_n upon_o the_o same_o nor_o then_o galnon_o of_o the_o laodicean_n council_n mention_v by_o theodoret_n and_o object_v by_o m._n andrews_n do_v any_o way_n impugn_v the_o custom_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n in_o pray_v to_o angel_n as_o mediator_n to_o christ_n for_o â—s_n and_o to_o conclude_v concern_v theodoret_n be_v whereas_o m._n andrew_n woo_a by_o this_o place_n make_v the_o world_n belieuâ—_n that_o he_o do_v not_o approve_v prayer_n to_o sayntsâ—_n 44._o i_o remit_v thou_o good_a reader_n to_o that_o most_o perspicuous_a and_o pregâ—antâ—_n testimony_n which_o i_o have_v before_o produce_v 〈◊〉_d of_o 〈◊〉_d to_o prove_v the_o public_a practise_v and_o custom_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n to_o pray_v to_o saint_n in_o his_o time_n together_o with_o the_o admirable_a effect_n and_o miraculous_a benefitsâ—_n that_o devout_a people_n receive_v thereby_o and_o his_o own_o evident_a and_o clear_a approbation_n thereof_o see_v that_o he_o urge_v it_o to_o the_o confusion_n of_o the_o paynim_n infer_v thereupon_o a_o manifess_v argument_n of_o christ_n divinity_n beside_o that_o in_o his_o historia_fw-la religiosa_fw-la wherein_o write_v the_o life_n of_o diverse_a religious_a person_n he_o crave_v in_o the_o end_n of_o every_o particular_a saints_n life_n action_n god_n favour_n and_o divine_a assistance_n by_o his_o intercession_n and_o in_o the_o conclusion_n 〈◊〉_d of_o the_o last_o he_o desire_v they_o all_o who_o life_n he_o have_v write_v to_o pray_v for_o he_o so_o that_o i_o hope_v this_o may_v suffice_v in_o answer_n of_o m._n andrew_n his_o objection_n take_v out_o of_o he_o 12._o i_o have_v before_o touch_v another_o objection_n of_o m._n andrews_n ground_v upon_o a_o absurd_a conceit_n of_o he_o that_o it_o be_v uncertain_a 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believe_v that_o quae_fw-la intus_fw-la claritatem_fw-la dei_fw-la vident_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o soul_n which_o see_v into_o the_o light_n or_o brightness_n of_o god_n be_v ignorant_a of_o any_o thing_n that_o be_v abroad_o 33._o and_o again_o in_o another_o place_n quia_fw-la in_o illa_fw-la aeterna_fw-la haereditate_fw-la etc._n etc._n for_o as_o much_o as_o in_o that_o eternal_a inheritance_n all_o man_n do_v see_v god_n with_o a_o common_a clarity_n or_o brightness_n what_o be_v there_o which_o they_o can_v know_v who_o know_v he_o that_o know_v all_o thing_n thus_o say_v s._n gregory_n teach_v as_o you_o see_v that_o the_o saint_n in_o heaven_n know_v all_o thing_n in_o earth_n and_o yield_v the_o self_n same_o reason_n thereof_o which_o you_o have_v hear_v m._n andrews_n say_v be_v inaudita_fw-la patribus_fw-la never_o hear_v of_o among_o the_o father_n to_o wit_n that_o because_o they_o see_v and_o know_v god_n therefore_o they_o see_v and_o know_v all_o thing_n in_o he_o 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do_v know_v themâ—_n for_o if_o their_o desire_n shall_v not_o be_v satisfy_v they_o shall_v not_o be_v so_o happy_a and_o bless_a as_o the_o perfection_n of_o their_o beatitude_n do_v require_v beside_o that_o see_v almighty_a god_n do_v glorify_v they_o not_o only_o in_o heaven_n with_o the_o vision_n of_o his_o deity_n but_o also_o in_o earth_n with_o many_o miracle_n do_v at_o their_o monument_n as_o m._n andrews_n himself_o confess_v in_o his_o answer_n to_o a_o place_n of_o s._n basil_n it_o be_v absurd_a to_o think_v that_o they_o do_v not_o know_v as_o well_o the_o particular_a favour_n that_o god_n do_v to_o man_n for_o their_o fake_n verè_fw-la as_o also_o the_o honour_n and_o glory_n that_o redound_v thereof_o both_o to_o god_n and_o they_o without_o which_o knowledge_n their_o beatitude_n as_o i_o have_v say_v shall_v not_o be_v complete_a 23._o now_o then_o see_v that_o our_o doctrine_n that_o saint_n do_v hear_v prayer_n or_o understand_v our_o prayer_n be_v ground_v 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cause_n 24._o and_o therefore_o he_o have_v reason_n to_o seek_v some_o better_a reason_n andrews_n which_o he_o do_v seem_v to_o put_v the_o case_n that_o it_o be_v true_a yea_o most_o manifest_a that_o saint_n do_v hear_v our_o prayer_n yet_o ne_fw-la sic_fw-la quidem_fw-la say_v he_o audemus_fw-la vota_fw-la nostra_fw-la ad_fw-la illos_fw-la precesque_fw-la dirigere_fw-la we_o dare_v not_o for_o all_o that_o direct_v our_o vow_n verum_fw-la and_o prayer_n unto_o they_o and_o hereof_o he_o yield_v this_o reason_n cum_fw-la praeceptum_fw-la â—a_n de_fw-mi re_fw-mi nullum_fw-la acceperimus_fw-la praeceptum_fw-la autem_fw-la acceperimus_fw-la in_o lege_fw-la disertis_fw-la verbis_fw-la 12._o quod_fw-la tibi_fw-la praecepero_fw-la hoc_fw-la tantùm_fw-la facies_fw-la we_o dare_v not_o say_v he_o pray_v unto_o they_o because_o we_o have_v receive_v no_o precept_n concern_v that_o point_n scripture_n but_o have_v receive_v a_o precept_n in_o the_o law_n in_o express_a word_n what_o i_o 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