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B06703 The guide in controversies, or, A rational account of the doctrine of Roman-Catholicks concerning the ecclesiastical guide in controversies of religion reflecting on the later writings of Protestants, particularly of Archbishop Lawd and Dr. Stillingfleet on this subject. / By R.H. R. H., 1609-1678. 1667 (1667) Wing W3447A; ESTC R186847 357,072 413

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