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heaven_n see_v the_o prayer_n beg_v this_o to_o all_o that_o rest_n in_o christ_n sanctorum_fw-la sess_n 9_o de_fw-fr invocatione_n sanctorum_fw-la and_o then_o farewell_n the_o council_n of_o trent_n which_o talk_v of_o saint_n reign_v with_o christ_n &_o aeterna_fw-la felicitate_a in_fw-la coelo_fw-la fruentium_fw-la nay_o the_o liturgy_n of_o saint_n james_n pray_v for_o the_o spirit_n of_o all_o flesh_n which_o they_o have_v pray_v for_o and_o which_o they_o have_v not_o from_o righteous_a abel_n to_o that_o very_a day_n that_o they_o may_v rest_v in_o the_o region_n of_o the_o live_n in_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n in_o the_o delight_n of_o paradise_n in_o the_o bosom_n of_o abraham_n isaac_n and_o jacob_n and_o yet_o will_v our_o author_n say_v that_o there_o be_v not_o one_o of_o these_o soul_n in_o heaven_n and_o so_o for_o the_o absolve_a of_o their_o sin_n which_o be_v his_o second_o instance_n the_o liturgy_n of_o saint_n crhysostom_n pray_v for_o all_o the_o father_n and_o 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lord_n forgive_v she_o i_o beseech_v thou_o do_v not_o thou_o enter_v into_o judgement_n with_o she_o and_o so_o on_o and_o yet_o the_o same_o austin_n tell_v we_o what_o ever_o it_o be_v that_o be_v signify_v by_o abraham_n bosom_n there_o his_o mother_n be_v ibi_fw-la vivit_fw-la nam_fw-la quis_fw-la alius_fw-la tali_fw-la animae_fw-la locus_fw-la for_o what_o other_o place_n be_v fit_v for_o she_o of_o such_o prayer_n our_o author_n may_v find_v good_a store_n in_o dall_n ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la &_o pag._n 520._o now_o then_o be_v abraham_n bosom_n purgatory_n be_v all_o the_o orthodox_n father_n in_o purgatory_n or_o if_o not_o be_v it_o not_o evident_a that_o the_o church_n have_v make_v such_o prayer_n for_o those_o that_o be_v not_o in_o purgatory_n sect._n 4_o 2._o we_o shall_v tell_v he_o in_o the_o sequel_n of_o the_o chapter_n that_o these_o prayer_n of_o the_o father_n depend_v partly_o upon_o supposition_n explode_v by_o the_o romanist_n himself_o partly_o upon_o other_o thing_n which_o can_v suppose_v a_o purgatory_n in_o the_o mild_a sense_n sect._n 5_o but_o be_v it_o true_a that_o the_o romanist_n purgatory_n be_v only_o a_o place_n wherein_o soul_n be_v capable_a of_o receive_v help_n or_o ease_v by_o prayer_n why_o then_o may_v it_o not_o be_v heaven_n for_o the_o soul_n there_o may_v be_v help_v to_o a_o full_a state_n of_o glory_n by_o our_o prayer_n as_o the_o father_n general_o affirm_v 2._o the_o trent_n council_n tell_v we_o that_o the_o catholic_n church_n out_o of_o scripture_n and_o the_o ancient_a tradition_n of_o the_o father_n and_o the_o holy_a council_n have_v teach_v we_o that_o there_o be_v a_o purgatory_n and_o thereupon_o command_v the_o bishop_n to_o be_v diligent_a that_o the_o sound_a doctrine_n of_o purgatory_n teach_v by_o the_o father_n and_o council_n shall_v be_v believe_v hold_v and_o every_o where_o preach_v now_o
be_v conjoin_v to_o his_o brother_n he_o enjoy_v the_o pleasure_n of_o everlasting_a life_n bless_v be_v you_o both_o if_o my_o orison_n can_v prevail_v any_o thing_n no_o day_n shall_v overslip_v you_o in_o silence_n no_o oration_n shall_v pass_v you_o over_o unhonour_v no_o night_n shall_v steal_v by_o wherein_o i_o will_v not_o bestow_v upon_o you_o some_o portion_n of_o my_o prayer_n with_o all_o oblation_n will_v i_o frequent_v you_o only_o the_o mischief_n be_v he_o do_v not_o add_v till_o i_o find_v a_o deliverance_n of_o you_o from_o purgatory_n or_o any_o such_o word_n indeed_o in_o his_o oration_n on_o the_o death_n of_o the_o emperor_n theodosius_n he_o tell_v we_o that_o he_o will_v follow_v he_o to_o the_o region_n of_o the_o live_n nor_o will_v he_o leave_v he_o till_o by_o his_o prayer_n and_o tear_n he_o have_v bring_v he_o into_o that_o place_n his_o desert_n do_v challenge_v quò_fw-la sva_fw-la merita_fw-la vocant_fw-la viz._n into_o the_o holy_a mount_n of_o god_n where_o there_o be_v everlasting_a life_n where_o there_o be_v no_o contagion_n of_o corruption_n no_o sigh_n no_o grief_n no_o company_n of_o the_o dead_a do_v he_o understand_v it_o of_o soul_n then_o must_v none_o of_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o dead_a be_v in_o heaven_n of_o body_n i_o hope_v our_o body_n must_v not_o go_v to_o purgatory_n with_o our_o soul_n but_o the_o region_n of_o the_o live_n where_o this_o mortal_a shall_v put_v on_o immortality_n this_o corruptible_a incorruption_n but_o yet_o he_o present_o tell_v we_o that_o theodosius_n remain_v in_o light_n and_o glory_n in_o the_o company_n of_o the_o saint_n purgatory_n to_o be_v sure_o be_v a_o place_n that_o he_o have_v cause_n to_o glory_n of_o and_o enjoy_v rest_n for_o his_o soul_n they_o rest_v very_o quiet_o sleep_v in_o utramque_fw-la aurem_fw-la in_o purgatory_n yea_o a_o little_a before_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o he_o now_o enjoy_v eternal_a light_n i_o suppose_v as_o be_v enlighten_v by_o the_o fire_n of_o purgatory_n and_o continual_a tranquillity_n and_o for_o the_o thing_n which_o he_o do_v in_o this_o body_n he_o rejoice_v in_o the_o fruit_n of_o god_n reward_n and_o be_v that_o think_v you_o purgatory_n and_o because_o he_o love_v the_o lord_n his_o god_n he_o have_v obtain_v the_o society_n of_o the_o saint_n but_o you_o will_v say_v if_o saint_n ambrose_n think_v he_o in_o bliss_n or_o a_o happy_a state_n what_o be_v the_o meaning_n of_o his_o former_a word_n ans_fw-fr you_o may_v see_v by_o what_o be_v say_v already_o that_o he_o can_v intend_v to_o bring_v he_o out_o of_o purgatory_n by_o his_o prayer_n which_o be_v sufficient_a for_o i_o nor_o 2._o can_v he_o be_v suppose_v to_o weep_v for_o he_o till_o his_o mortal_a do_v put_v on_o immortality_n unless_o he_o think_v he_o shall_v live_v till_o the_o resurrection_n or_o theodosius_n rise_v before_o it_o well_o then_o 3._o dally_n will_v tell_v you_o that_o it_o be_v usual_a in_o scripture_n and_o sacred_a writer_n to_o speak_v of_o thing_n as_o do_v which_o they_o be_v certain_a will_v come_v to_o pass_v so_o isaac_n say_v gen._n 27.37_o i_o have_v make_v jacob_n esau_n lord_n and_o all_o his_o brethren_n his_o servant_n because_o he_o have_v foretell_v it_o will_v be_v so_o even_o thus_o s._n ambrose_n say_v he_o will_v never_o leave_v pray_v till_o the_o emperor_n resurrection_n because_o he_o be_v sufficient_o assure_v that_o god_n will_v raise_v he_o unto_o life_n eternal_a and_o transser_v he_o to_o heaven_n now_o then_o see_v it_o be_v as_o clear_a as_o the_o sun_n that_o ambrose_n think_v they_o both_o in_o heaven_n or_o in_o abraham_n bosom_n viz._n the_o emperor_n valentinian_n and_o theodosius_n be_v it_o possible_a he_o shall_v pray_v for_o their_o deliverance_n out_o of_o purgatory_n what_o good_a can_v they_o need_v beside_o that_o which_o he_o pray_v for_o a_o speedy_a resurrection_n who_o already_o enjoy_v the_o pleasure_n of_o eternal_a life_n if_o eternal_a life_n be_v purgatory_n i_o will_v not_o give_v two_o penny_n for_o the_o pope_n indulgence_n to_o be_v deliver_v from_o it_o this_o be_v so_o be_v not_o our_o author_n a_o brave_a juggler_n who_o dare_v add_v for_o deliverance_n to_o saint_n ambrose_n and_o that_o he_o may_v not_o be_v find_v out_o cite_v neither_o place_n nor_o tell_v we_o of_o what_o emperor_n whether_o theodosius_n or_o valentinian_n he_o mean_v it_o albeit_o he_o produce_v the_o place_n only_o to_o prove_v that_o the_o ancient_n think_v the_o soul_n depart_v to_o have_v some_o present_a refreshment_n which_o indeed_o they_o do_v allow_v to_o saint_n suppose_v to_o be_v in_o abraham_n bosom_n and_o that_o from_o the_o company_n of_o angel_n and_o archangel_n and_o the_o vision_n of_o christ_n which_o they_o be_v suppose_v to_o enjoy_v in_o those_o receptacle_n &_o the_o increment_n of_o divine_a light_n and_o joy_n which_o ambrose_n speak_v of_o he_o have_v four_o place_n more_o out_o of_o saint_n austin_n in_o behalf_n of_o purgatory_n sect._n 14_o 21_o confess_v l._n 9_o c._n 21_o but_o the_o 1._o where_o his_o mother_n beg_v that_o she_o may_v be_v remember_v at_o the_o altar_n fall_v strange_o short_a of_o purgatory_n since_o i_o have_v make_v it_o appear_v that_o those_o who_o be_v suppose_v to_o be_v in_o heaven_n be_v there_o remember_v and_o this_o remembrance_n be_v make_v for_o divers_a other_o reason_n nor_o 2._o be_v there_o any_o thing_n in_o that_o which_o saint_n austin_n say_v 5._o de_fw-fr cnra_fw-la per_fw-la mortem_fw-la c._n 5._o we_o must_v by_o no_o mean_n omit_v necessary_a supplication_n for_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o dead_a that_o repose_n may_v be_v obtain_v to_o they_o since_o it_o be_v as_o clear_a as_o the_o sun_n that_o they_o pray_v for_o repose_v to_o all_o the_o servant_n of_o god_n depart_v and_o saint_n ambrose_n beg_v rest_n for_o the_o emperor_n theodosius_n of_o who_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o he_o be_v in_o rest_n already_o nor_o will_v the_o 3._o place_v cite_v out_o of_o his_o enchiridion_n do_v he_o service_n viz._n 110._o c._n 110._o that_o the_o sacrifice_n be_v offer_v as_o a_o thanksgiving_n for_o martyr_n but_o as_o a_o propitiation_n for_o other_o for_o 1._o it_o be_v evident_a that_o saint_n austin_n when_o he_o write_v this_o book_n be_v of_o saint_n chrysostoms_n opinion_n for_o as_o much_o as_o he_o tell_v we_o 110._o eâ—ch_o c._n 110._o that_o these_o who_o our_o suffrage_n do_v profit_n they_o do_v it_o either_o that_o they_o may_v have_v a_o full_a remission_n or_o a_o more_o tolerable_a damnation_n and_o then_o no_o wonder_n if_o he_o allow_v the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o eucharist_n or_o prayer_n to_o profit_n for_o the_o remission_n of_o sin_n 2._o it_o may_v be_v offer_v for_o a_o propitation_n in_o respect_n of_o other_o and_o they_o not_o in_o purgatory_n but_o in_o abraham_n bosom_n as_o well_o as_o saint_n augustine_n may_v pray_v so_o earnest_o for_o his_o mother_n that_o god_n will_v be_v propitious_a to_o she_o and_o yet_o she_o be_v in_o abraham_n bosom_n as_o above_o be_v manifest_v as_o to_o that_o 4._o instance_n which_o he_o call_v convince_a possidius_n ser._n 32._o de_fw-la verbis_fw-la apost_n note_v that_o this_o 32._o sect._n be_v not_o to_o be_v find_v in_o the_o index_n of_o possidius_n the_o outmost_a that_o can_v be_v gather_v from_o it_o be_v that_o in_o saint_n augustine_n and_o the_o church_n judgement_n it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v doubt_v that_o our_o brethren_n be_v help_v by_o these_o prayer_n so_o that_o god_n may_v deal_v with_o they_o more_o merciful_o than_o their_o sin_n deserve_v and_o that_o prayer_n and_o offering_n be_v make_v for_o they_o out_o of_o a_o intention_n of_o commend_v they_o to_o god_n mercy_n and_o what_o of_o all_o this_o for_o 1._o do_v not_o the_o same_o austin_n pray_v that_o god_n will_v deal_v more_o merciful_o with_o his_o mother_n then_o her_o sin_n deserve_v do_v he_o not_o commend_v she_o to_o god_n mercy_n albeit_o he_o very_o think_v she_o be_v in_o abraham_n bosom_n 2._o what_o be_v this_o more_o than_o what_o saint_n paul_n pray_v for_o onesiphorus_n that_o he_o may_v find_v mercy_n in_o that_o day_n the_o day_n of_o judgement_n and_o saint_n peter_n speak_v of_o sin_n to_o be_v blot_v out_o at_o the_o day_n of_o our_o refreshment_n well_o then_o they_o commend_v their_o brethren_n to_o god_n mercy_n as_o know_v that_o they_o deserve_v these_o punishment_n from_o which_o they_o can_v not_o be_v otherwise_o deliver_v then_o by_o the_o clemency_n and_o mercy_n of_o god_n which_o be_v very_o true_a and_o yet_o make_v not_o at_o all_o for_o purgatory_n and_o indeed_o their_o prayer_n for_o pardon_n of_o sin_n be_v only_o thus_o that_o god_n will_v at_o the_o last_o day_n proclaim_v they_o pardon_v and_o will_v not_o cast_v they_o
there_o be_v no_o probability_n of_o be_v clothe_v upon_o and_o therefore_o they_o can_v be_v suppose_v to_o go_v to_o purgatory_n naked_a since_o they_o that_o go_v thither_o be_v sure_a afterward_o to_o go_v to_o heaven_n again_o vers_fw-la 6_o 7._o the_o apostle_n tell_v we_o that_o while_o we_o be_v at_o home_n in_o the_o body_n we_o be_v absent_a from_o the_o lord_n and_o that_o here_o the_o faithful_a desire_n to_o be_v absent_a from_o the_o body_n because_o it_o hinder_v they_o from_o the_o presence_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o walk_v by_o sight_n now_o have_v they_o be_v acquaint_v with_o purgatory_n sure_o they_o will_v have_v express_v their_o desire_n of_o be_v absent_a from_o that_o also_o see_v that_o be_v like_a not_o only_o to_o be_v more_o irksome_a to_o they_o but_o also_o more_o durable_a and_o therefore_o a_o great_a impediment_n since_o therefore_o they_o groan_v so_o much_o to_o be_v deliver_v from_o a_o short_a life_n here_o which_o hinder_v their_o enjoyment_n of_o god_n presence_n and_o not_o at_o all_o for_o deliverance_n from_o a_o hundred_o or_o two_o hundred_o year_n continuance_n in_o purgatory_n for_o so_o long_o say_v bellarmine_n the_o church_n have_v pray_v for_o soul_n in_o purgatory_n we_o infer_v they_o be_v not_o acquaint_v with_o it_o again_o they_o that_o be_v to_o be_v receive_v into_o eternal_a habitation_n when_o their_o life_n fail_v they_o be_v to_o be_v receive_v at_o death_n for_o than_o they_o fail_v but_o so_o be_v charitable_a man_n and_o by_o parity_n of_o reason_n other_o pious_a soul_n the_o minor_a be_v prove_v from_o luke_n 16._o v._o 8._o make_v unto_o yourselves_o friend_n of_o the_o mammon_n of_o unrighteousness_n that_o be_v use_v it_o so_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o when_o you_o fail_v i._n e._n die_v they_o may_v receive_v you_o that_o be_v may_v procure_v you_o a_o reception_n or_o rather_o as_o doctor_n hammond_n you_o may_v be_v receive_v into_o everlasting_a habitation_n but_o our_o author_n have_v his_o argument_n also_o sect._n 18_o which_o come_v now_o to_o be_v consider_v and_o first_o he_o tell_v we_o of_o a_o express_a testimony_n for_o purgatory_n in_o the_o book_n of_o macchabee_n now_o not_o to_o call_v upon_o he_o for_o a_o answer_n to_o dr._n cousin_n of_o the_o canon_n of_o scripture_n as_o know_v how_o impossible_a it_o be_v to_o be_v do_v albeit_o it_o be_v necessary_a to_o make_v this_o testimony_n a_o cogent_n proof_n see_v he_o only_o tell_v we_o that_o there_o be_v such_o a_o place_n in_o the_o book_n of_o macchabee_n i_o will_v add_v where_o the_o word_n may_v be_v find_v even_o in_o dally_n page_n 439._o where_o they_o be_v full_o consider_v and_o it_o make_v evident_o to_o appear_v that_o they_o come_v not_o up_o to_o a_o proof_n of_o purgatory_n neither_o be_v they_o consistent_a with_o the_o receive_a maxim_n of_o the_o abettor_n thereof_o and_o whereas_o our_o adversary_n call_v in_o the_o universal_a tradition_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o synagogue_n of_o the_o jew_n to_o justify_v this_o place_n the_o same_o worthy_a person_n have_v make_v it_o evident_a that_o neither_o this_o nor_o any_o other_o testimony_n produce_v by_o they_o be_v any_o tolerable_a proof_n of_o such_o practice_n 450._o p._n 449._o 450._o nay_o he_o evince_v most_o clear_o from_o this_o passage_n that_o this_o practice_n be_v not_o receive_v in_o our_o saviour_n or_o the_o apostle_n time_n ne_fw-la apud_fw-la infimos_fw-la &_o corruptos_fw-la judaeos_fw-la yea_o he_o spend_v the_o 14._o chapter_n of_o his_o second_o book_n to_o evidence_n that_o the_o jew_n be_v ignorant_a of_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a and_o shall_v we_o after_o all_o this_o give_v any_o credit_n to_o your_o confident_a assertion_n of_o such_o evident_a untruth_n it_o concern_v you_o if_o you_o respect_v your_o credit_n to_o answer_v what_o be_v extant_a in_o the_o forecited_a place_n of_o the_o learned_a dally_n and_o to_o evince_v this_o universal_a tradition_n and_o practice_n you_o here_o speak_v of_o without_o the_o least_o offer_n of_o any_o proof_n unless_o what_o follow_v must_v be_v so_o esteem_v viz._n that_o from_o the_o jew_n no_o doubt_n plato_n borrow_v this_o doctrine_n and_o from_o plato_n cicero_n but_o i_o pray_v you_o sir_n permit_v we_o who_o have_v the_o argument_n forementioned_a to_o evidence_n that_o in_o our_o saviour_n time_n the_o jew_n have_v no_o such_o custom_n to_o doubt_v of_o what_o you_o bold_o here_o assert_v 360._o l._n 4._o c._n 5._o p._n 360._o especial_o when_o the_o same_o dally_n run_v antipode_n unto_o you_o and_o tell_v we_o though_o with_o great_a modesty_n ab_fw-la iis_fw-la platonicis_n ut_fw-la videtur_fw-la illam_fw-la purgatorii_fw-la rationem_fw-la baustam_fw-la atque_fw-la acceptam_fw-la tum_fw-la judaei_n tum_fw-la adversarii_fw-la retinent_fw-la sect._n 19_o that_o both_o you_o and_o they_o as_o it_o seem_v receive_v your_o purgatory_n from_o the_o platonist_n 120._o mr._n cr._n p._n 120._o you_o 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our_o church_n liturgy_n sect._n 10._o saint_n chrysostome_n not_o for_o they_o but_o against_o they_o sect._n 11._o his_o citation_n abuse_v by_o master_n cressie_n ib._n as_o likewise_o saint_n ambrose_n sect._n 12._o the_o doctor_n argument_n from_o the_o fruit_n of_o the_o vine_n vindicate_v sect._n 13_o 14._o mr._n cressie_n evasion_n confute_v sect._n 15._o the_o weakness_n of_o his_o argument_n against_o the_o doctor_n exposition_n evidence_v and_o confess_v by_o jansenius_n sect._n 16_o 17._o a_o argument_n against_o transubstantiation_n sect._n 18._o why_o the_o father_n not_o insist_v on_o sect._n 19_o the_o father_n be_v not_o for_o the_o adoration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n sect._n 20._o saint_n chrysostome_n saint_n ambrose_n and_o saint_n augustine_n testimony_n consider_v sect._n 21_o 22_o 23._o the_o contrary_a evidence_v from_o doctor_n taylor_n sect._n 24._o in_o this_o chapter_n we_o meet_v with_o many_o misadventure_n sect._n 1_o 124._o mr._n cressie_n p._n 124._o and_o mistake_n as_o 1._o that_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v as_o old_a as_o the_o first_o general_a council_n whereas_o it_o be_v never_o use_v by_o any_o father_n or_o at_o least_o never_o apply_v unto_o this_o matter_n for_o the_o space_n of_o a_o thousand_o year_n and_o upward_o nor_o can_v i_o find_v any_o of_o their_o own_o writer_n beside_o himself_o that_o ever_o plead_v the_o use_n of_o such_o a_o word_n 2._o another_o mistake_n be_v that_o the_o church_n only_o say_v the_o change_n make_v in_o the_o holy_a sacrament_n be_v usual_o call_v transubstantiation_n when_o the_o trent_n council_n express_o tell_v we_o 124._o mr._n cressie_n p._n 124._o that_o it_o be_v call_v so_o propriè_fw-la convenienter_fw-la &_o aptissime_fw-la most_o fit_o proper_o and_o convenient_o 3._o whereas_o you_o tell_v we_o sect._n 5_o that_o it_o be_v a_o difficult_a matter_n to_o define_v what_o be_v our_o church_n tenent_n
infer_v that_o after_o the_o solemnity_n end_v he_o drink_v no_o more_o of_o the_o fruit_n of_o the_o vine_n which_o advantage_v he_o nothing_o and_o yet_o 3_o if_o neither_o of_o these_o two_o answer_n can_v stand_v yet_o see_v we_o have_v make_v it_o probable_a if_o not_o necessary_a that_o these_o word_n shall_v be_v understand_v of_o the_o eucharistical_a cup_n his_o argument_n fall_v to_o the_o ground_n irrevocable_o sect._n 17_o for_o a_o close_a i_o will_v mind_v he_o of_o what_o jansenius_n have_v long_o ago_o tell_v he_o that_o this_o argument_n be_v frivolous_a and_o unconcluding_a hence_o it_o appear_v locum_fw-la in_o locum_fw-la say_v he_o how_o infirm_a that_o argument_n be_v which_o some_o of_o our_o man_n suppose_v efficacious_a to_o prove_v transubstantiation_n from_o this_o that_o christ_n say_v non_fw-la bibam_fw-la de_fw-fr genimine_fw-la vitis_fw-la infer_v that_o what_o he_o drink_v of_o be_v not_o so_o etc._n etc._n for_o say_v he_o shall_v we_o grant_v which_o 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perron_n mich._n le_fw-fr faveheur_fw-fr and_o bernardus_n albertinus_n to_o who_o i_o refer_v the_o reader_n for_o abundant_a satisfaction_n and_o shall_v content_v myself_o with_o one_o only_a passage_n of_o theodoret_n who_o in_o his_o second_o dial._n bring_v in_o a_o man_n contend_v that_o christ_n humane_a nature_n be_v swallow_v up_o of_o the_o divine_a which_o he_o illustrate_v thus_o as_o the_o element_n or_o symbol_n of_o the_o lord_n body_n before_o the_o invocation_n of_o the_o priest_n be_v one_o thing_n but_o after_o invocation_n be_v change_v and_o make_v another_o so_o the_o lord_n body_n after_o his_o ascension_n be_v change_v into_o a_o divine_a substance_n to_o which_o he_o answer_v you_o be_v catch_v in_o your_o own_o net_n for_o the_o symbol_n do_v not_o go_v out_o of_o their_o proper_a nature_n but_o remain_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o former_a substance_n wherein_o they_o be_v and_o thus_o i_o have_v finish_v the_o first_o part_n of_o the_o chapter_n concern_v transubstantiation_n sect._n 20_o i_o come_v now_o to_o return_v a_o answer_n to_o what_o he_o have_v plead_v for_o the_o adoration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n and_o first_o the_o place_n which_o he_o cite_v out_o of_o st._n chrysostome_n will_v not_o conclude_v his_o purpose_n for_o albeit_o he_o say_v 24._o 1_o cor._n 10._o ho._n 24._o let_v we_o imitate_v the_o barbarous_a magi_n yet_o do_v he_o not_o say_v as_o our_o author_n parenthesis_n will_v have_v he_o that_o we_o shall_v imitate_v they_o in_o worship_v our_o lord_n but_o only_o tell_v we_o that_o they_o address_v themselves_o unto_o he_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d with_o a_o great_a deal_n of_o fear_n or_o horror_n let_v we_o therefore_o stir_v up_o ourselves_o say_v he_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o show_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d far_o great_a fear_n than_o they_o for_o this_o exposition_n of_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o comparison_n require_v and_o that_o this_o word_n ordinary_o bear_v the_o sense_n if_o any_o will_v far_o be_v inform_v let_v he_o have_v recourse_n to_o beza_n or_o any_o other_o commentator_n upon_o the_o 5._o heb._n 7_o and_o he_o may_v receive_v satisfaction_n from_o they_o second_o do_v chrysostome_n indeed_o speak_v of_o adoration_n yet_o may_v he_o bid_v we_o imitate_v these_o magi_n not_o by_o adore_v the_o element_n but_o he_o that_o be_v represent_v by_o they_o matth._n hom._n 8_o q._n in_o matth._n thus_o when_o elsewhere_o he_o say_v that_o it_o be_v christ_n who_o beg_v and_o receive_v in_o the_o poor_a man_n sheaf_n and_o bid_v we_o reverence_v he_o i_o suppose_v he_o will_v not_o have_v the_o reverence_n do_v to_o the_o poor_a man_n but_o direct_v to_o our_o lord_n and_o saviour_n the_o other_o three_o citation_n tell_v we_o only_o this_o sect._n 21_o that_o they_o do_v adore_v christ_n flesh_n in_o the_o sacrament_n 131._o mr._n cr._n p._n 131._o and_o what_o be_v that_o to_o the_o purpose_n for_o it_o be_v very_o well_o know_v that_o the_o greek_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o the_o latin_a adoro_fw-la be_v use_v by_o the_o father_n for_o any_o kind_n of_o reverence_n as_o when_o it_o be_v say_v by_o tertullian_n adoro_fw-la scripturae_fw-la plenitudinem_fw-la and_o by_o the_o council_n of_o carthage_n apud_fw-la cyprianum_n adorabilia_fw-la scripturae_fw-la verba_fw-la &_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o isid_n pelusiot_n lib._n 1._o ep._n 136._o but_o to_o come_v to_o particular_n sect._n 22_o that_o place_n of_o saint_n ambrose_n do_v not_o necessary_o refer_v to_o the_o sacrament_n 1._o de_fw-fr sp._n l._n 3._o c._n 1._o answ_n but_o be_v it_o to_o be_v understand_v of_o the_o eucharist_n he_o say_v no_o more_o than_o this_o that_o in_o these_o mystery_n we_o worship_v christ_n and_o consequent_o the_o flesh_n of_o christ_n as_o be_v not_o divide_v from_o he_o but_o he_o do_v not_o say_v that_o in_o adore_v the_o mystery_n we_o adore_v christ_n and_o as_o for_o saint_n augustine_n sect._n 23_o he_o propound_v the_o very_a same_o objection_n i_o fear_v say_v he_o to_o worship_v the_o earth_n lest_o he_o that_o make_v heaven_n and_o earth_n shall_v damn_v i_o for_o it_o thus_o fluctuate_a i_o turn_v to_o christ_n and_o here_o i_o find_v how_o the_o earth_n may_v be_v worship_v because_o flesh_n be_v of_o the_o earth_n now_o he_o take_v flesh_n upon_o he_o and_o give_v we_o his_o flesh_n to_o eat_v which_o no_o man_n eat_v nisi_fw-la prius_fw-la adoraverit_fw-la but_o he_o that_o have_v first_o adore_v viz._n christ_n as_o it_o follow_v cum_fw-la adoras_fw-la illum_fw-la that_o be_v when_o you_o worship_v he_o to_o wit_n christ_n let_v not_o the_o thought_n be_v of_o the_o flesh_n no_o you_o must_v not_o worship_v that_o alone_o but_o as_o conjoin_v with_o the_o deity_n do_v we_o eat_v that_o flesh_n that_o
oratory_n will_v he_o after_o two_o or_o three_o sight_n of_o he_o be_v move_v against_o his_o rebellion_n yea_o when_o he_o go_v to_o the_o bookseller_n and_o see_v many_o gilt_n bibles_n on_o the_o one_o hand_n play_n and_o romance_n on_o the_o other_o be_v he_o trouble_v with_o a_o diversity_n of_o passion_n in_o his_o breast_n but_o we_o suffer_v he_o to_o proceed_v well_o then_o he_o infer_v sect._n 4_o if_o then_o unavoidable_o he_o must_v think_v reverent_o of_o the_o object_n or_o contemptuous_o he_o may_v as_o well_o speak_v or_o behave_v himself_o external_o after_o the_o same_o manner_n to_o they_o respective_o answer_n true_o will_v any_o body_n say_v he_o shall_v not_o reverence_v his_o majesty_n or_o may_v not_o behave_v himself_o contemptuous_o towards_o bradshaw_n or_o any_o other_o rebel_n now_o alive_a but_o second_o if_o thence_o he_o will_v infer_v a_o reverence_n due_a to_o that_o which_o represent_v these_o object_n albeit_o we_o grant_v the_o thing_n of_o a_o 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one_o another_o as_o saint_n paul_n himself_o do_v from_o the_o ephesian_n and_o other_o c._n 6.19_o c._n 2._o thes_n 3.1.4_o col._n 3._o where_o he_o bid_v the_o brethren_n pray_v for_o he_o answer_v very_o good_a but_o yet_o we_o dare_v not_o beg_v from_o these_o our_o brethren_n grace_n glory_n pardon_v of_o sin_n nor_o say_v with_o the_o roman_a breviary_n to_o the_o virgin_n mary_n we_o fly_v unto_o thou_o o_o virgin_n mary_n for_o thy_o defence_n and_o for_o as_o much_o as_o be_v conscious_a of_o our_o great_a offence_n we_o fear_v the_o wrath_n of_o a_o severe_a judge_n who_o we_o dare_v not_o see_v we_o fly_v unto_o thou_o his_o mother_n that_o thou_o will_v intercede_v for_o we_o unto_o god_n excuse_v our_o sin_n and_o obtain_v for_o its_o the_o grace_n of_o thy_o omnipotent_a son_n procure_v we_o the_o pardon_n of_o what_o ever_o we_o have_v commit_v second_o he_o tell_v we_o such_o beg_n of_o prayer_n be_v far_o from_o idolatry_n or_o diminution_n to_o christ_n since_o 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