Selected quad for the lemma: heaven_n
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The growth of error being an exercitation concerning the rise and progress of Arminianism and more especially Socinianism, both abroad and now of late, in England / by a lover of truth and peace.
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Lobb, Stephen, d. 1699.
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Wing L2725; ESTC R36483
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