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A83515 The third part of Gangræna. Or, A new and higher discovery of the errors, heresies, blasphemies, and insolent proceedings of the sectaries of these times; with some animadversions by way of confutation upon many of the errors and heresies named. ... Briefe animadversions on many of the sectaries late pamphlets, as Lilburnes and Overtons books against the House of Peeres, M. Peters his last report of the English warres, The Lord Mayors farewell from his office of maioralty, M. Goodwins thirty eight queres upon the ordinance against heresies and blasphemies, M. Burtons Conformities deformity, M. Dells sermon before the House of Commons; ... As also some few hints and briefe observations on divers pamphlets written lately against me and some of my books, ... / By Thomas Edvvards Minister of the Gospel.; Gangraena. Part 3 Edwards, Thomas, 1599-1647. 1646 (1646) Wing E237; Thomason E368_5; ESTC R201273 294,455 360

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the Inhabitants of London page 7. saith the Assembly are only to advise the House of Commons when they requi●r them and have not dealt fairely to side with the Scots or to sway with the City or to 〈…〉 ge the Parliament in the least Twelfthly the Sectaries have carried themselves wickedly and insolently toward the whole Ministry in this Kingdome and that both in City and Country reproaching them and 〈◊〉 against them in Pulpits Presses and in all places threatning them to send them packing to Rome that they will leave never a Preist in England distu●bing them in their owne Churches and Pulpits in giving them the lie calling them by disgracefull names as foole knave false Prophet Antichrist Frog in the Revelation pulling them out of the Pulpits keeping them by force from preaching invading their Pulpits against their wills drawing swords against them assaulting them in their houses with weapons of war and driving them from their habitations and laying their Churches wast A large book would not containe all the stories of the Sectaries misusing the godly Ministers in this kind I have many instances with the proofes by me of the Sectaries insolent carriages in these kinds in Oxfordshire Glostershire Summersetshire Wiltshire Bedfordshire Northamptonshire Warwickeshire Lestershire Devonshire it would be too much to particularize all the wicked facts done in this kind by Col. Heuson Major Axton Leiut Webb Capt. Paul Hobson and divers others as also to repeat all the wicked reproachfull names given the godly Ministers of the Kingdom in the printed pamphlets of the Sectaries as the Devils Agents The professed ●nemies of Christ The sworne enemies of Christ Persecuting Presbyters Croaking Fr●gs and twenty such names and worse Thirteenthly the Sectaries have spoken wickedly against all the Reformed Churches scoffing at their Synods Classes Ordination c. Let their books be looked into and they will be found to have written more scoffingly and reproachfully aganst those Churches then ever the Papists or Prelates did yea they have blasphemed those Churches the eminent servants of God among them and the truth of Christ taught in them What should I speak of the Arraignment of Persecution and his fellowes belching out blasphemies against the reformed Churches many other pamphlets besides that sort are extremely faulty as The compassionate S 〈…〉 ri●●ne Divine Light c. The Reformed Churches are ranged by some of the Sectaries with Papists and Turks and Calvin that worthy Instrument of Reformation and one of the Stars of the first magnitude is evill spoken of and ●ancked with the Romanists Fourteenthly The Sectaries have inveighed against inferior Magistrates Courts as Judges Justices of peace Majors of Cities Committees and all sorts of Officers of Justice and have offered severall affronts unto these and t is no wonder that they who with so high a hand dare affront heaven and earth God his truth Ministers and Ordinances the higher powers and the supremest Court of Judicature as I have showed the Sectaries have done should not be afraid of speaking against and carrying themselves uncivilly towards Magistrates in lower places The Courts of Justice in Westminster Hall and all their proceedings have been reviled by Lilburne and other Sectarian pamphlets All the Lawyers have beene cryed downe and reproached in Englands Birth-right and other pamphlets some of the Judges have beene affronted in their Circuits at the last Assizes by some Sectaries as at Hartford and other places Some Justices of Peace for executing Ordinances of Parliament upon Sectaries as that of Tyths and Committing upon blasphemies have beene arrested and sued by Sectaries as on Southwark ●ide as also abused and reproached to their faces and books written against them for discharge of their office besides Constables and Officers who have distrained and served their Warrants have beene molested and sued Majors of Cities Sheriffs Aldermen have beene branded for arbitrary tyrannicall prerogative Aldermen Sheriffs and miscalled at pleasure as in Lilburnes late pamphlets The Lord Majors farewell to his Maioralty Committees in the Countries have beene affronted by Sectaries putting on their hats when brought before them as in Bedfordshire and in one word all sorts of officers of Justice have one way or other by word or deed beene abused by Sectaries either by disobeying the Warrants they have brought or by miscalling them or by branding them in print as Lilburn hath done in severall pamphlets severall officers the Sergeant at Arms of the House of Commons the Keepers of Newgate he being more insolent and clomineering in prison over all kind of officers then his Keepers over him but above all the Sectaries insolencies towards that faithfull Gentleman Colonel Francis West and other officers under him appears by Lilburnes late libellous pamphlets and by the threatning speeches of some Sectaries comming to see Lilburn in the Tower who being by the Warders spoken unto to give their names and where they dwelt told them they should answer the prohibiting of them from going to Leiutenant Colonel Lilburne and that the time was at hand when they would come in whether the Leiutenant of the Tower would or no. And thus I have given a touch upon severall heads of the Sectaries tumultuous insolent unsufferable carriages but among all their wickednesses and abomiuable courses which may make them justly abhorred of all good men and of these Kingdomes the Reader may observe these following 1. That they make it their work and businesse to corrupt destroy and overthrow all Religion and godlinesse to lay all wast and to set open a wide gate to all error and licentiousnesse of living for the effecting of which they doe not only use all means and wayes for a Universall Toleration of all Heresies Blasphemies Atheisme which may happen to arise that there being such they may be tolerated go unpunished which Toleration alone would cause growth of Heresies fast enough and the ruine of Religion and godlinesse but they plot all wayes and take all courses under heaven that all Heresies and Errors may grow and increase that there may be both abundance of Errors and persons holding them and therefore they use all their power and interest to hinder all things which might prevent the growth of Heresies a●d Errors as the settling of Church-government and peace in Church and Common-wealth as the bringing in of Orthodox godly zealous Ministers into places with the establishing of maintenance upon them as the publishing of such Books as might keep men from Errors having suppressed some Books so which have come from New-England as a Tractate against Toleration c. And on the contrary doe any thing though never so unreasonable though never so much against their owne principles though never so wicked and abominable so it will but advance Errors hence they suffer many Emissaries to go from Country to Country from place to place to broach and vent among people all kinds of Errors and that by force of Arms against the will of the Ministers and people
that the godly Mi A Relation of a Letter sent from Newcastle by an Independent testifying the faithfulnesse of the Scots to the King p. 88. ●isters of Newcastle are abused and discouraged by reason of the ●ndependents and other great Sectaries come in their roomes p. 89. A Relation of a story concerning M. Erburies venting of divers Errours at a meeting p. 89. 90. Animadversions by way of confutation of the Errors vented by M. Erbury p. 90 91 92. A Relation of one Sir Worts who would have had a place in Norfolk but being hindred he turned Independent p. 95. A Relation of an old Anabaptist who would oft be drunk and then bewaile the blindnesse of the Church of England p. 95. A Relation of a story concerning a souldier in the Army who went up into the Pulpit against the Minister his will and being brought before the Justice carried himselfe disrespectively for which he was committed to prison and how released p. 95 96. A Relation of some words spoken by one against the Armies going into Ireland p. 96. A relation of one Potter a Smith now turned Preacher who hath drawn many away to separated meetings on the Lords day p. 96. A Relation of some souldiers that infected many where they quartered and of their undecent carriage p. 96. A Relation of one John Durance and of his speaking strangely concerning the King and that there would be no peace in England till there was a generall liberty of conscience p. 96. 97. A Relation of one M. Larking a fierce Independent p. 97. A Relation of a great Sectary who vented many erroneous things and doth a great deale of hurt in Kent p. 97. A Relation of one Brabson a great Sectary who preaches much against Tithes p. 97 98. A Relation of one Cornwell a desperate Sectary who hath put forth divers Pamphlets p. 98. A Relation of M. Blackwood an Anabaptist who printed a Book called the storming of Antichrist p. 98. A Relation of what one M. Nicholas Davison who came from New-England being required by the Independents to go to Guild-hall said to them what hurt they did and how divers Priests turn'd Independents p. 98. 99. A Relation of a young man a Preacher who lived in Holland concerning the carriage of some English Sectaries there and how some of them gave thanks at their meetings for soleration which as they heard had passed the House of Commons and of their justifying M. Archers Book that makes God the author of sin saving they could shew the copies of that p. 99. 100. A Relation of a story concerning a Captain who said the ●oules of the righteous go not to heaven and his exposition on that place Luke 24. this day thou shalt be with me in Paradice p. 100 101. Animadversions on the said exposition of the Captaine p. 101 102. A Relation concerning Mr. Batcheler Licenser Generall of all the Sectaries books pleading for all manner of damnable Errours p. 102 103 104 105. A Relation of the names of some notorious Sectaries p. 105. A Relation concerning one Carter a Sectarie p. 105. A Relation concerning divers Sectaries M. Peters converts and one M. Bunniard who will not keepe Fast-daies but his folkes work on the Fasts p. 105. A Relation concerning one Oats a a Weaver who was arraigned upon his life for dipping one who dyed within 14. daies and one reasoning with him saying that Rebaptization was the way to destroy the creature and the answer made by one p. 105 106. A Relation concerning a Captaine who speake desperately against the City Remonstrance p. 106. A Relation concerning some of the Sectaries that said they would not tolerate the Presbyterians p. 106. A Relation concerning a Captain who preacheth on the Lords daies and puts the Minister by though a godly man p. 107. A Relation concerning a Sectary who said Christs righteousnesse was a beggerly righteousnesse p. 107. A Relation concerning a Sectary who affirmed Adultery and Drunkennesse to be no sin and maintained divers other errours p. 107. A Relation concerning divers Troopers in the Army that hold very desperate and divellish opinions p. 107. A Relation concerning M. Burroughs who spoke against the City for their unthankfulnesse to the Army and spoke strange passages against the City Remonstrance p. 107 108. A Relation concerning M. Symonds of Sandwich who said they should be damned that had opportunity to come into their Church-way and would not and of his foule speech towards a godly Minister p. 108 109. A Relation concerning some Sectaries in the Army who said what had they fought for all this while if the Presbyteriall Government be setled c. p. 110. A Relation concerning one Crab a dipper who spoke very disdainfully of the King p. 110. A Relation concerning a Lievtenant a great Sectarie who holds himselfe able to dispute with the whole Assembly he hath often preached in his scarlet Cloake with silver lace p. 111. A Relation concerning one Webb who preached blasphemy p. 111. A Relation of a Manuscript made by some of the Magistrates of New-England as it was thought for an arbitrary Government in the Common-wealth p. 111 112. A Relation of a Sectary who married a woman and went away from her and will not live with her and how the Church whereof hee is maintains him in it p. 112 113. A Relation concerning M. Saltmarsh preaching and of strange things delivered by him and how he said John Baptists Doctrine was a Leatherne Doctrine p. 113 114. A Relation concerning Cretensis and his Errors with some briefe Animadversions on his 38. Quaeries and Opinions p. 114 115 116 117 118 119 120. A Relation concerning M. Peters relating many of his speeches and passages in his Sermons together with an answer to a Pamphlet of M. Peters entituled M. Peters last Report of the English Wars from page 120. to p. 147. A Relation of M. Treake and of opinions that he holds and of some Articles put up against him p. 147 148. A Relation concerning Richard Overton who hath printed many scandalous things against the House of Peers and many desperate Pamphlets scoffing and scorning of them and his behaviour to the House of Commons and his ill speech of the Ministery p. 148. 149 150 151 152. A Relation concerning John Lilburn an Arch-Sectarie who hath printed divers desperate Pamphlets abusing the House of Lords and divers others p. 153 154 155 156. 157 158 159 160. A Relation concerning John Price M. Goodwins Disciple and of some of his opinions p. 160 161 162. A Relation of Mr. Cradock and of some things he hath preached p. 162. Animadversions on something preached by M. Sympson at Black-Fryers p. 164. The Relation of a story of the beating of a march of a Drum heard in the Chappell of Duckingfield by the Independents at a meeting there with Animadversions on that story p. 164 165. A Relation of a Petition on foot by some Sectaries for a Toleration p. 166 167. A Relation of a story
as is evident by these words Neither shalt thou take a Wise to her Sister to vex her to uncover her nakednesse besides the other in her life time that is either thou shalt not take one wife to another marrying another wife having one or else marrie the sister of thy wife whether she be sister by mother or by the father Againe the holy Ghost in this Chapter forbids that which is unlawfull with some kind of persons and not with all and at some times and not at others therefore limits it to such a sort of persons such degrees of bloud but now fornication is unlawfull with all and at all times a man may not uncover the nakednesse that is commit fornication with those who are remotest in bloud or affinity and that it must be understood so is evident from the 19. verse Thou shalt not approach unto a woman to uncover ●er nakednesse as long as she is put apart for her uncleanesse that is every man was to abstaine from his own wife during the time of her monthly fluors which necessarily showes t is meant of a mans wife for from all other women a man must abstaine alwayes and t is never lawfull to approach to them but even from a mans owne wife over who●e body he hath power at other times he is then to abstaine Lastly the holy Ghost comes to speak of fornication verse 20. Thou shalt not lie carnally with thy neighbours wise There he forbids fornication but in the former part of the Chapter he for bad Incest and Incestuons marriages The other Scripture is in the New Testament Mark 6. 17 18. verses where John tell● Herod t is not lawfull for him to have his brother Philips wife and this cannot be evaded by saying John reproved Herod taking her by force or living in fornication with her but not barely for marriage with her For the text faith expresly he had married her and she was willing to it as appears by the story because she had a quarrell against John Baptist and would have killed him for preaching to Herod against it and afterwards watched her opportunity of revenge against John verse 19. 24 preferring his head before halfe of the Kingdome I have been the larger in this Animadversion because divers Sectaries a● guilty of Incestuous marriages I have the names of three Independents given me out of one County who have married incestuously 4. That our common food ordinary eating and drinking is a Sacrament of Christs death and a remembrance of his death till his coming againe 5. That the Souls of the Saints departed now in Heaven are on Earth everywhere present with their friends and with all the affairs of this world seeing and knowing them though in a spirituall manner and not in so grosse a way as when they were living upon earth for look as the Saints whilst they were on earth in their bodies yet were in Heaven in their Conversations So now though they ●e in He 〈…〉 yet they are on Earth with their friends and know their state and condition Doth not this Doctrine open a gap for prayer to the dead what bred and nourished prayer to Saints departed but this and is not this a great ground of it among the Papists at this day if this were true would it not put men upon praying to Saints whom they familiarly knew and were interrested in as their fathers mothers c. A godly and able Minister who was at this Sermon professed to me and another Minister discoursing of the Sermon That if he beleeved this Doctrine to be true he should pray to his Father to remember and pray for him and the Papists generally as Bellarmine and others urge this as an argument for Prayer to Saints because they know our affairs and the condition of things belowe unto which the Protestants generally Answer That the Saints departed know not our wants nor what is done in the earth and in Answer to that Argument The Saints on earth pray for one another Ergo much more we should desire the prayers of the Saints departed Among other Answers they still give this We may request the prayers of one another because we know our mutuall necessities but the Saints departed know not what things are done here upon earth neither are every where present to hear ou● prayers The holy Ghost tells us Isaiah 63 16. that Abraham is ignorant of us and Israel knows us not Upon which Augustine writes thus If so great Patriarck● were ignorant what became of the people which were borne of their loi●es how is it like that other dead can be present to understand and be helping to mens affairs So Job saith of them who are dead His sonnes come to honour and 〈◊〉 knoweth it not and they are brought lowe but be perceiveth it not Job 14. verse 21. But for confutation of this Popish opinion I referre the Reader to Willets Synopsis the much generall Controversie concerning the Saints departed quest 3. to Amesius his Bellar. E●ervatus Tom. 2 〈…〉 de Invocatione Sa●ctorum and to learned Rivers Catholicus Orthodoxus Tract 2. Quest 48. 6. The glorified Souls now in Heaven see in Christ as in a glasse the state of the whole Church on Earth all their joyes to rejoyce with them and all their griefs and troubles though not to greive with them This is B 〈…〉 nes opinion an brought by him as a ground for the Invocation of Saints became at once they see in God as in a glasse all things here belowe and so the prayers of the faithfull directed to them Of the manner how the Saints in Heaven know the prayers of the living Bellarmine sets down four opinons of the wayes how 1 Some say they know them by the relation of Angels 2 Others say the Souls of the Saints by their wonderfull celerity and agility are in a sort every where and so know 3 Many hold the Saints see at once in God as in aglasse all things which concerne them and so the prayers directed to them I astly others say they know them by speciall revelation from God when they are prayed as Elisha knew Ge●azies corruption and Samuel knew Sauls estate Now the Third the beholding in God as in a glasse the prayers of the living Bellarmine adheres to as the most probable so that this 6th Error and Bellarmines agrees fully but for confutation of this Error let the Reader read our Protestants in Answer to Bellarmine upon this question As Amesius Bellar. Enervat Willets Synopsis with many others 7 The glorified Souls who are in Heaven doe now with Christ govern and rule the Kingdomes of the Earth and all the affairs here belowe for proofe of which was brought these Texts as I remember Revelation 3. 21. To him that overcometh will I grant to ●it with me in my throne Rev. 2. 26. And he that overcometh to him will I give power over the nations This also is a Popish Errour
more no more night nor day summer nor winter 2 Pet. 3. 7 10 11 12. The heavens and the earth which are now are reserved unto fire against the day of judgement the heavens shall passe away the elements shall melt with fervent heat the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burnt up all these things shall be dissolved and whatever hath a being after the day of judgement is eternall and for ever so Revel 10. 6. there should be time no longer which some interpret there shall be no time because time shall be finished and this variety of dayes and nights moneths and years and an unchangeable eternity shall follow in the dayes of the seventh Angel but whether that be the meaning or no of the place this is certain that after the end of this world and the generall Judgement there will be an abolition of time and an eternity follow and therefore eternall fire and eternall chains both for devills and ungodly men cannot be meant of a long time but simply of eternall à parte post Thirdly there 's the same reason in every respect why eternall for judgement fire destruction should be taken in the same sense that eternall is when joyned to life kingdome c. but there 't is taken not for a long-lasting time but properly for everlasting and therefore must of necessity be so here and whatever colour glosse or evasion can be brought to evade that of hell torments damnation that they should not be eternall the same will lie as strong against the eternall life and kingdome given to the Saints but they overthrow the whole doctrine of faith break that golden chain of salvation in the eighth of the Romanes in all the links of it Election Vocation Justification Glorification nay further these Errors as they are laid down doe not onely crosse expresse Scriptures and Articles of our Faith but they deny salvation to all men who beleeve not those wicked doctrines making them the great Antichrist formall beleevers and putting the cause of all damnation to devills and men viz. for so long as they are damned upon the not-beleeving and receiving these wicked doctrines That all devills and men shall be saved and that Christ paid the price laying down his bloud for the pardon of all reprobated Men and Angels and that the beleeving of these doctrines is the only true Christian working faith commended so much by the Holy Ghost and of such an efficacy that this faith being but in two or three in the whole world shall yet save all the rest of the Creation then which Doctrines and Positions nothing can be more repugnant to the Christian faith and may properly be call'd doctrines of devills 33. The Trinity of Persons came downe in Christ to suffer Father Sonne and Holy Ghost suffered for their transgressing creature 34. There is a private Kingdom of Christs justice in which he sat Judge over the quick and dead to condemne and execute torments on the rebellious whom he held as prisoners for a time and there is Christs publick Kingdome to which the Private Kingdome must give place and as the Father hath given it to Christ to rule it for ever so Christ hath committed it to the Holy Ghost to enliven all things to bring up all to life and immortality and the Holy Ghost for the Father and the Son shall execute the judgement of love and mercies unto all for the destroying of death of hell 35. That t is unlawfull to pray unto God kneeling 36. That Organs are a sanctified adjunct in the service of God now under the Gospel and that if any man in the Church had a gift of making Hymner he might bring them in to be sung with Organs or other Instruments of musick In severall ages of the Church wanton men who could not be content with the simplicity of the Gospel have brought both into doctrines of Faith and Worship such opinions and practises still as have been most suitable to their genius and education to the principles of such Arts and Sciences in which they were versed as Origen and some others versed in Plato's Philosophy brought in opinions into the Church according to Plato's doctrine Some who have been much addicted to Painting and Imagery they have brought in Images into the Church and now some of our Independents having fancies in Musick singing taking great delight in that way they have pleaded for and brought into the Church Hymnes and Musick 37. That Adultery is no Sin and that Drunkenesse is none neither but a help to see Christ the better by it 38. Though consent of Parents unto Childrens marriage was commanded under the Law to them that lived then yet because that was but a ceremony t is now lawfull to marry without their consent because we live under the Gospel 39. Christs death and sufferings were endured for to be our example not to purchase heaven for us 40. That 't is not lawfull for Christians to take an oath no not when they are called before Authority and brought into Courts 41. That Christ would destroy not only unlawfull Government but lawfull Government not only the abuse of it but the use of it he was destroying both Monarchy and Aristocracy 42. That the Saints besides the spirituall Kingdome and Government of the Church of Christ must have an externall Kingdom to possesse that this is the time that the Kingdome viz. England Scotland and Ireland is to be taken from him who shall arise and subdue three Kingdoms thinking to change times and Lawes and shall be given to the Saints 43. Gracious Lords or Favourable Lords are titles that cannot be proper amongst Christians but are marks of Gentiles 44. 'T is an utter disfranchisement of the people and a meer vassalage for a man to Petition to Courts of Judicature as the House of Peers for his right and to have justice done him 't is no better then a branch of tyranny to force a man to turn Supplicant for his own and of self-robbery to submit thereto 'T is an inslaved and intolerable condition of this Nation that indeed they cannot have their own naturall Rights and Immunities but they must be actuall Petitioners as if their own were not their own of right but of favour 45. That for Crimes and Offences committed in a Common-wealth there should not be certain penalties appointed by Lawes to which the Governours and Magistrates should be tyed but it should be lest to the discretion and wisdome of the Magistrates to inflict what they thought fit in case of such and such Crimes and this liberty should be left that a Magistrate might exercise his gifts of Government which if he were kept strictly to the Law how should his wisdom and gifts be manifested 46. That Protestant States and Parliaments have no power nor liberty to confirm and enact by Law Worship and Church-Government
composed by Protestant Synods who have an eye to the Scripture in what they doe but the assuming of such a power so as to enact a Law to bind all to conformity 't is a falling under that in Esay Their fear towards God was taught by the precept of men 't is with Nebuchadnezzar to erect his golden Image with Jeroboam and his Councell to set up the golden Calves 't is a rejecting of Christ from being King an utter overthrowing of the Kingly Prerogative and Office of Christ and a destroying a foundation of faith 47. That all Power Places and Offices that are just in this Kingdom ought only to arise from the choise and election of the people and that all the power right any man hath in governing and ruling over those he rules stands wholy in the choice and election of those that are ruled and that men need not ought not to yeeld obedience and subjection to the Commands Summons Lawes c. of any but of those they have chosen and who are their Representers and to submit yeeld obedience to any others whom they have not chosen is inconsistent with the nature of just freedoms and to exercise any power not derived from choice is no lesse then usurpation and oppression 48. That all the Legall Supreame Soveraigne Regall Legislative power of this Kingdom is in the House of Commons the chosen Commons of England and in no other whatsoever there 's no other the Svpreame Court of Judicature of this Land but the House of Commons That all Majesty and Kingship inherently residing in the people or state universall the representation or derivation of it is formally and legally in the state Representative or elect and in none else The Supreame power only of right belonging to the House of Commons they only being chosen by the people 49. That the state universall the body of the common people is the Earthly Soveraign Lord King and Creator of the King Parliaments all Officers and Ministers of Justice Underived Majesty and Kingship inherently resides in the state universal and the King Parliaments c. are their own meer creatures to be accountable to them and disposed of by them at their pleasure the people may recall and re-assume their power question them and set others in their place 50. That whatever the Fundamentall Constitutions of Kingdomes and Common wealths have been by forefathers whatever agreements compacts have been of subjection and obedience of such a people for themselves and posterities to one as under Kingly government or to more yet the men of the present age following many hundred years after ought to be absolutely free from what their forefathers yeelded unto and freed from all kinds of exorbitancies molestations without exception or limitation either in respect of persons officers degrees or things and estated in their naturall and just Liberties agreeable to right reason 51. That the House of Commons cannot have any power nor exercise any power justly but what the people who chose them conferred upon them and the common people having given them no power to establish Religion as having no such power in themselves and therefore could not conferre that which they had not therefore the House of Commons cannot assume a power to controule Religion or a way of Church Government upon the people and although the Kings Writ for chusing Knights and Burgesses implies the establishment of Religion yet all implications in the Writs of the Establishment of Religion showeth that in that particular as many other we remain under the Norman yoak of an unlawfull power from which we ought to free ourselves and the House of Commons ought not to maintain upon us but to abrogate 52. That seeing all men are by nature the Sons of Adam and from him have legitimatly derived a naturall propriety right and freedom Therefore England and all other Nations and all particular persons in every Nation notwithstanding the difference of Lawes and Governments rancks and degrees ought to be alike free and estated in their naturall Liberties and to enjoy the just Rights and Prerogative of mankind whereunto they are Heirs apparent and thus the Commoners by right are equall with the Lords For by naturall birth all men are equally and alike born to like propriety liberty and freedom and as we are delivered of God by the hand of nature into this world every one with a naturall innate freedom and propriety even so are we to live every one equally and alike to enjoy his birth-right and priviledge 53. That the body of the people may do all that lawfully of themselves which their Deputies Trustees Representors chosen ones do for them only for greater conveniency they Depute them and they may go no further in any thing nor sit no longer nor dispose of any thing but according to their Commission and power received from the Represented I might here also annex to these Errours many strange and false Expositions of Scripture given by Sectaries in their Sermons and Discourses but I will only give two or three 1 That of Matthew 28. v. 18. Allpower is given to me in heaven and in earth By heaven there is meant the uncreated heaven there are the created heavens and the uncreated heaven here is meant the uncreated heaven the God-head so that the meaning of these words is all the uncreated power of the God-head is given to Jesus Christ 2 That of Genesis the ninth And surely your bloud of your lives will I require at the hand of every beast will I require it That by Beast there was meant a wicked man 3 That of Luke 24. To day shalt thou be with me in paradise that to day was to be referred to Christs saying so not to the time when he should be in Paradise of which the Reader may find more in some following pages 100. 101. In my First and Second Parts of Gangraena page 28. 29. of the First Part Third Edition and in page 1. and 117. of the Second Part Second Edition I have laid down some Tenets of the Sectaries destructive to Civill Government and humane Society but now in this Third Part among these Errors mentioned I have discovered much more of their Anarchicall and Antimagistraticall spirit many of these last Errors plainly showing they are enemies to all Government Order and Distinction and would bring all into a popular confusion and reduce all Common-wealths and Kingdoms into such a condtion as they were before they had Laws Customes of Nations Rulers over them and that as often as the weak judgements and humours of the giddy in constant multitude pleased and this spirit of Anarchy fully showes it self in many whole Books written on purpose some Sermons many Speeches and in many late practises of the Sectaries I have forborne quoting in the margine one or more particular Bookes with the Pages just against the Errours for proof as I have done in other Errors because not only one Book
Heresies and Sects that they which are approved may be made manifest among us The good Lord in due time purge his Church and now his Fanne is in his hand let us pray that he may thoroughly purge his floore nothing but pure Wheat shall be in the Lords Barne Lord thy will be done in Earth as it is in Heaven so commending your holy labours both in Pulpit and Presse to the blessing of God I rest Your lover in the Truth and for his sake who is ipsa veritas Nichol. North. From Dover July 13. 1646. Sir Last day repeating to my people here in Saint James Parish the summe of these Errors that they might avoid the like Captaine Temple a great stickler in this Town for the maintenance of all Sects as I hear sent me this letter after Sermon being as it seems displeased that I should forewarn my people of Heresies and Errors I pray consider of it and make the best use of it you can The man is a stranger to me and I an to him I never saw him to my knowledge and he did not hear me preach that day he wrote to me though in his Letter he sayes he is my observer Mr. North DOubtlesse you may get into your peoples affections with enveighing against any pretenders to Religion as if all such did hold such points as your story wherewith you filled up your hour But I pray Sir be so honest as to tell them this afternoon that it was very likely that Tiltboat ●ent your companion to London was an Atheist one of your Church of England For such swearers drunkards blasphemers do use to go in your Tilt-boat and there talk of Religion according to your story But all wise men know your objects of spleen called Independents Anabaptists c. hold fundamentalls in Religion and can maintain it by Scripture better then your self Your observer Miles Temple Dover the 12. July 1646. This is a true Copie to a tittle of Master Temples Letter sent to Master North on the Lords day July the 12. 1646. Attested by Nicholas North John Dy●us Ministers A Copie of a Letter from a worthy Minister in the West of England Worthy Sir I Had not the happinesse either to see or heare of the second part of Gangraena till within these very few dayes The first part did so much good in weakning the reputation of the Sectaries and marring their market wheresoever it came that it is not unlikely there may be meanes used by some agents in London to hinder the spreading of this How it comes to passe I know not but if any corrupting Books come forth making for Independency or any of the Sects we are sure to here of them soon enough and finde them in too many hands I am glad you have made good your ground so well against Cretensis whose bitter arrogant unministeriall stile and passages will be enough to lay open to the world the temper of the mans spirit though you should be silent In that which concernes Master Burroughs I thought verely you had been mis-informed He utterly denyed the truth of that relation to a good Presbyteriall friend of his and mine who alwaies hath had him in good esteem for piety sure it will amaze his friend and many others when they shall see this largenesse of conscience in Master Burroughs You cannot immagine how I was struck at the reading of it If Saints of the first magnitude in the Independent way the greatest pretenders to conscience can do this what credit can we give to the rest such Presbyterians as they will scarce owne to be Saints have not that latitude of conscience to tell 〈…〉 willingly much lesse write it print it and give it under their h●●ds to all the world This is too too bad As concerning that Collier whom you spake of in your Book I could give you a large relation as how he was banished out of Garnesey he and many more of his followers whom hee had seduced for their heresies and turbulent behaviour afterwards imprisoned at Po 〈…〉 th 〈◊〉 was the ●irst that sowed the seeds of Anabaptism Anti-sabbatari●●ism and some Arminianisme among the rest in these parts hee hath had the boldnesse to publish two or three pamphlets full stuffed with erroneous principles and ●avouring of an illitterate Carter or an Husbandman for so he is by his calling I heare though now by usurpation a Preacher The first time he preached amongst us which was in time of publike exercise some that heard him said afterwards if that were true which Master Collier had taught them they would never heare any of our Min●●ters more You may guesse his doctrine by the use was made of it doubtlesse 〈◊〉 was stronge poison he gave them that wrought so strongly at first Sir if I were not in great haste I should writ more at large I should be glad to heare from you in a word o● two how things are likely to goe for which I shall rest June 1646. Your thankfull friend A Copie of a Letter sent from some of the Committee of the City of Exeter to some of that City here in London GEntlemen we referre you to our former Letter sent you by post wherein we gave you information of the imprisoning of our honest Citize●s by the Deputy Governour and Officers of that Garrison they yet continue in custody The Committee was refused to have the knowledg of the cause of their imprisonment Our Constables are opposed in doing their duties in a word they do openly contemne and violently incroach upon the civill power contrary to former ordem sent them Yesterday they demanded more monies of us for the Garrison We do what in us lyeth to oppose them in their undue courses But the insolencie of this day is such that we thought it our duty to make this present dispatch to you doubting what a day may bring forth The cause is thus we taking notice of the frequent preaching of Captaines at the Castle Guild-Hall and in private housés and of their drawing away of the people thought it necessary with the advice of Ministers to have the Ordinance of Parliament of the twentie sixth of Aprill 1645. to be published which prohibits all such to preach as were not ordained Ministers c. which accordingly was read at the Cathedrall before the morning Sermon this day The Deputy Governour hearing it commands it to be read the second and third time the Officers jeering and scoffing all the time of the publishing of it in contempt both of the Ordinance and of the Committee After the Sermon was ended the Deputy Governour most presumptuously stands up in the Bishops seat and takes upon him publikely to give the meaning of the Ordinance and saith aloud that it did not forbid their meetings and that in the after-noones they would have their exercise in the Custle which accordingly they had and that he had the command of the City and of all that were in it with many words
no repentance I am sure they need much grace In other Letters out of Somersetshiere from a godly Minister who hath done much publike service and is well known if I should name him he writes thus Novemb. 16. 1646. to a godly Minister in London I sent the other day into Glostershiere for rents and there out of forty pounds per a●num my Mother and my selfe pay five shillings per diem and are now to pay sixe moneths Contribution to Glocester besides payes to Bristow and other taxes If such things were done in the Scots Army they would be cryed up and down London streets some are resolving to represent to the House the same things as are represented out of the North and worse we are able to do it and speak nothing but truth He writes also as followes The other day Mr. Greenhill of Dodington in Glostershire was pul'd down out of the Pulpit and one Minister more in Glostershiere were pul'd out of their Pulpits by the Souldiers and Independents put up in their roomes The Souldiers threatned me last weeke to pull me out of the Pulpit only for reproving them This Minister also relates in one of his Letters that upon a Lords day not long since in the time of the morning exercise divers of these Souldiers plaid at foot-ball upon a Green or Common Some Letters written from Oxford by some of the Assembly to persons of worth in London mention how M. Erbury the same who is spoken of in my first Part of Gangraena and in this third Part pag. 89 90. came attended with divers souldiers to a meeting that the Ministers sent downe to Oxford had weekly for the satisfaction of the scruples of some in these times and there started that Question that there was no such Office upon earth now as Ministers that none were now to be Select Officers but every man might preach that is speak his thoughts as one Letter expressed it and propounded it with divers of the Souldiers backing him to dispute that point with them what the carriage of the Sectaries was at the meeting to dispute it and the issue of the disputation I cannot speake certainly nor particularly as having not spoken with any of our Ministers there present onely I shall desire the Reader to observe this That this Erbury who now comes on purpose to Oxford for such a disputation and challenges our Ministers when as he hath so many armed men to back him and to domineere never could all the while he was in the Earle of Essexe's Army Chaplaine there be drawne by the Ministers to any Conference or Dispute about the points he then held and often vented He was often moved to it desired but still declined could never be brought to it for then he knew he could not have those to backe him in his Dispute who were Commanders of many men and had the power of the Sword in their hands A Letter out of Warwick shiere dated the 2. of Novemb. relates that two souldiers did preach at Rugby on the 25. of October and there said that no Minister was a true one except he was rebaptized and that our Ordinances were false Ordinances and the Printers have cozened us in printing the Scriptures and more tenents they hold which now I cannot write and on the 26. day of October they baptized sixe women in a Mill-dam about eleven of the clock in the day which was strange to us in these parts Some positions and speeches sent up in writing out of Staffordshiere maintained and spoken by some of the Sectaries in the Army belonging to Colonell Whaleyes Regiment were shewed me by a worthy Member of the House of Commons the sum of them is that there are no created spirits but every spirit whatsoever is God that the Angells are God and that the soule is one with God that the Scripture is not the Word of God they dispute against prayer with Arguments drawn from the omnisciency and immutability of God they said they would goe to Hell for God was there and he was as much in Hell as in Heaven they said where they were quartered that they would pull the Committees out of their places and sit in their stead one of them meeting with an excise Booke asked the Master of the house where he found it whether he would pay money the man demanding how should he avoid it he said rise with us and we will free you for they were all Knaves and Theeves One of these Sectaries souldiers told a Minister that it was their worke to pull down such Antichrists as he and that they made them already to quake Divers Letters and some Petitions out of Oxfordshiere speake of many strange things done there by the Sectaries as of severall abuses offered in the Church of Aston to one M. Skinner a Reverend learned and painfull preacher of 70. years of age by one Lievtenant Webb by Colonell Hewson and by divers others speaking to and opposing him in the time of preaching and expounding On the 25. of October 1646. John Webb a Lievtenant guarded with his Souldiers as M. Skinner was preaching in his Church started up and with a loud voice publiquely interrupted him cal'd him ●oole three times Popish Priest tub-preacher bidding him often to come downe out of his tub saying he taught lyes to the people This Webb said that himselfe was a Minister of Jesus Christ and cared not for the Ordinance of Parliament or Synod for what were they to him and in this manner he proceeded troubling M. Skinner and the Congregation till one of the clock and then in a rage went out of the Church calling Mr. Skinner black frog of the Revelation threatning he would preach in the after-noone do what he could and in the afternoone Web got into the Church before M. Skinner could come his Souldiers having picked the locks of the Church doore and took possession of the reading pew and was there expounding when M. Skinner came in Mr. Skinner being thus kept out of his seat went up into his Pulpit and setting a Psalme in the singing of it the said Web and his souldiers kept on their hats whereupon M. Skinuer intreated them to uncover considering they were in Gods presence But Lievtenant Webb cryed out aloud souldiers and all ye that are on my side keep on your hats which was done accordingly The Psalme being ended Mr. Skinner desired them all to joyne with him in prayer uncovered but the said Webb and the other Independents would not uncover whereupon M. Skinner being over the said Webs head took off his hat gently desiring him to remember about what a holy duty he was upon which Web in a fury cryed out my souldiers and Constable pull him down cast him in hold till to morrow and then bring him before me at which command two fellowes went to pull him down with violence but some of the neighbours laying hold on them whilst they were drawing their swords by