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A56668 A further continuation and defence, or, A third part of the friendly debate by the same author.; Friendly debate between a conformist and a non-conformist Part 3. Patrick, Simon, 1626-1707. 1670 (1670) Wing P805; ESTC R2050 207,217 458

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have found in my Book he needed not have troubled himself any further for I had effectually confuted my self But if he had only look't half a minute upon those lines which he refers you to b Friendly Debate p. 187. and be capable to understand a discourse he would have seen that I did not compare one bad thing with another but an innocent thing with that which is notoriously bad Only I said after the fashion of those who speak modestly Why should they not be thought to spend their time as well as you that can hear long stories of the Bishops c. when I might have said they spend it a great deal better or there is no compare between them And yet he hath the impudence to declaim on this Argument and to tell you what Epithets he could bestow on it and at last to conclude triumphantly that he hath convinced c As you may see p. 186. me of the fallac●o●sness of this reason which he himself composed You may think it too sharp but I know one that bestowed such another censure on him as Balzac did upon such another Scribler after a tedious perusal of whose Book he concluded thus My Grammar cannot find construction in it nor my Logick common sense When you have perused and considered this and several other passages do you judge how much is fit to be abated of the rigour of this Sentence N. C. I have something else to do Pray let me ask you one Question which you find in him and he speaks much of it d Pag. 181 182 183. why do you allow that to others in Print which you deny to others in practice Why do you not go your self if it be so lawful C. I would ask him a Question too but that I think it vain to demand a reason of him that hath it not N. C. What is that C. Nay it is a very easie one and needs no long study to make an answer to it N. C. What is it then C. Why did he not read my Book better must we write a new Book for every particular man that will not be at the pains to mind what we have writ already but only Question 's and Catechises us about those points which every child can resolve from what hath been already declared I told you there were some persons who were above them and could entertain themselves with better pleasures to their liking e Friendly Debate p. 184. and others who did not think this pleasure so expedient for them in their place and Relation Why could not he have supposed me at least among the latter sort without asking any Questions or since it is a thing indifferent whether a man go or not why should I be bound to give him a reason why I do not use them N. C. But may not the reason be because you think them to be generally prophane or obscene He suspects they would hardly take with a great many people though they were never so ingenious if there were not some such evil mixture in them C. He hath an il-natur'd imagination I do not think the generality of those that frequent them would have them stain'd either with those or any other such qualities However the persons whom I pleaded for abhor such things as much as any of you can do and some Playes they abhor a great deal more N. C. I do not believe it the better sort of us abhor all C. Stay there Philagathus himself can be present at a breaking up and there see an innocent modest Comedy Acted by young Schollars f Pag. 179. which either out of love of Tautologie or least you should not believe it he tells you over again in his long-winded Preface But I can tell you of a Play that when time was you could all be contented to read and see Acted too though more dangerous a great deal than this Childrens sport It is called Englands Tragedy Acted by four living creatures and two killing Beasts g I find not the year meationed but appears by the matter to have been w●itabout 1642. being upon occasion of the ●ommission of Array The four living creatures 4. Rev. 6. were the Militant Church warring for the Lamb that is your own dear selves For the two killing Beasts 13. Rev. 1 11. he tells you were the malignant party warring for Antichrist the Servants of a strange God and Rebels against Israel as another presently after stiled them h Late Covenant assorted 1643. p. 14. The Prologue of this Tragedy began with Honorius and Arcadius the Acts and Scenes are most of them past and now saith he it is come to its Epilogue and the Witnesses are ready to draw the Stage Be with them therefore Act your part knowing that God is not far off to make Satans Synagogue bow down at the feet of the true Church By which it appears that some of you could be content not only to read and see this horrid Tragedy but to be Actors in it perswading your selves you saw the witnesses rising again and the Saints sitting in the Throne So we were told the next year that they who took the Oxford-Covenant had entred in Covenant with the Devil to serve him to work and stand up for him to do as be doth open his mouth in blasphemy against God his Name his Tabernade and them that dwell in Heaven i Ib. pag. 9. i. e. these Reformers taken up from the Stage to the high places of Power There they sat deriding us on Earth and this man for his part said he would laugh in spite of the Devil k Ib. p. 10. And what was this ridiculous sight think you I 'le tell you The Kings party were sworn by Covenant to endeavour the maintenance of Religion and the Subjects Liberty This and His Majesties most sacred protestation made a Comedy for him when the Tragedy was ended and the Devil himself how should he when the man dwe● in Heaven could not spoil the sport By which I see you are not enemies to these recreations when the humour takes you but would rather have all the mirth to your selves For we must not so much as smile at all these follies unless we can be content to be thought prophane not venture without trembling to go and see a Play for who can be secure l Sober Answ p. 180. saith Phil. of seeing and hearing no wickedness there N. C. That 's a Question would be resolved C. It 's as idle as all the rest For many of those which are daily Acted are to be seen in Print N. C. Well! I never heard of any good but of much hurt that hath come by Playes C. There are many other things of which you may say the same and yet they may be innocent But I can tell you of some good N. C. What is that C. The old History of Fryer Francis being Acted by the then Earl of Sussex his Players at Linn in