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A04901 A confutation of monstrous and horrible heresies, taught by H.N. and embraced of a number, who call themselues the Familie of Loue by I. Knewstub. Seene and allowed, according to the Queenes Maiesties iniunctions. Knewstubs, John, 1544-1624. 1579 (1579) STC 15040; ESTC S108097 192,800 286

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and baptism he shall become saued but who so beleeueth not hee shall according to the worde of Iesu Christ become cōdemned 35. For that cause let no mā boast him to be a christiā that hath not in the vpright faith receiued the true tokens of the Christianitie that is that beareth or carieth not the name of the Father and of the Sonne and of the holie Ghost essentially and liuingly in him otherwise he shall assuredly in this same day of the loue of the righteous iudgement before al the holie ones of God which are comprehēded in the communialtie of the loue bee founde false and lying For the woorde that the Lorde Iesus Christ hath spoken shal iudge him in this same newest day Answeare H.N. proceedeth nowe to the sentence of euerlasting condemnation which hee thundreth out agaynst all howe many soeuer who shall not nowe in this present day of the loue beleeue this doctrine which he hath here published and professed What sentence hee himselfe lieth vnder I leaue it vnto the Lorde but if there be any place left vnto prayer for him I pray God hee may be so truely touched with repentaunce as that curse may be turned from him which wayteth for so many as by damnable doctrine shall leade blinde and simple soules out of the way In the meane time we stande assured from the mouth of the lorde that the curse which is causelesse shall not come The true Churche of Christ acknowledgeth the holy Ghost to be God equall with the Father and the Sonne because the Scripture geueth libertie and freedome vnto him in distributing of graces and giftes vnto the children of god According as we reade in the former Epistle to the Corinthes Al these thinges worketh one and the self same spirite distributing to euerie man seuerallie as he will because in like maner it ioyneth him with the father and the sonne makinge but one God of those three persons as it is written in the first Epistle of Saint Iohn There are three which beare recorde in heauen the Father the worde and the holy Ghost and these three are one Wee doe assuredly beleeue that the holie Ghost will bee our comforter vnto the ende as well in woorking the woorkes of sanctification in vs as in making strong and sealing vp vnto our spirite the assurance of saluation and euerlasting life bringing all that to passe in our weakenesse which the Lorde hath promised in his woorde For the which ende he is sent from the Father and the Sonne into the world Which effectes are many in number and merueilous for the great workemanshippe thereof in such frailtie as wee are forced to feele and confesse to be within our selues For what a wonderful worke is this in flesh and bloud to haue a wise and vnderstanding heart in the will and word of his God The Apostle setteth this sight of God his goodnesse towardes vs which is offered in the Gospel farre aboue the reach eyther of sense or reason attributing it onely to the holy Ghost The things which eye hath not seen neither eare heard neither came into mans heart hath God prepared for them that loue him but God hath reuealed them vnto vs by his spirit for what mā knoweth the thinges of a man saue the spirit of a mā euen so the things of God knoweth no mā but the spirit of god What a rare work is this in like manner to geue vnto men who are priuie to themselues of manifolde offences and great wretchednes the confidence and boldenesse to call God Father making a full reckoning of his fauour and good wil towards them which thing is notwithstanding wrought in the seruants of God by the spirit of God as the Apostle witnesseth because ye are sonnes God hath sent forth the spirite of his sonne into your hartes which crieth Abba Father Of what difficultie likewise is that woorke to quicken this not dull but dead disposition within vs in the wayes of the Lorde his lawes and in the woorkes of his commaundementes yet doeth the spirite of God performe it in vs as wee reade in the Epistle to the Romanes If the spirite of him that raised vppe Iesus from the dead dwell in you he that raysed vp Christe from the dead shall also quicken your mortall bodies by his spirite that dwelleth in you Moreouer that passeth the power of man in our afflictions to be guided vnto God and to haue beside the matter the acceptable maner also of mourning and groning ministred vnto vs which proceedeth from the spirite of God as it is written to the Romanes Likewise the spirite also helpeth our infirmities for we know not what to pray as we ought but the spirite it selfe maketh request for vs with sighes which cannot be expressed but he that searcheth the heartes knoweth what is the meaning of the spirite for he maketh request for the faultes according to the will of God. And howe woonderfull is the Lorde by this woorke of his spirite in vs who are yet kept from our Countrey kingdome and oftentimes so euill intreated and so litle regarded that not onelie men but the Lorde himselfe seemeth to reckon of vs as vnwoorthie of any welfare here vppon earth to haue notwithstanding within vs a good earnest of our inheritance in heauē euē the spirit of God who hath also to name Comforter for these and like effectes of consolatiō after that ye beleued ye were sealed with the holy spirite of promise which is the earnest of our inheritaunce for the redēption of that libertie purchased to the praise of his glory As for H.N. his holie Ghost there are no suche thinges to bee had from him for concerning the earnest and assurance to be made for our inheritaunce what vse can there be thereof when once wee are entred vpon the same nowe by H.N. his doctrine euerlasting life is in this life and in this estate of perfection which he professeth therfore when possession is taken there is no longer place for anie pledge or earnest of assurance and therefore H.N. his holie Ghost cannot bee he which the Scripture setteth foorth and maketh knowen by the propertie of a pleadge or earnest Beside this when H.N. his holie Ghost is once come they are past praier for sinne they haue not to pray against it beyng no sinners and goodnesse they want not beyng perfect and therefore he is not that holie Ghost which the Scripture speaketh off that helpeth their infirmities who know not what to pray as they ought making request with sighes and grones that cannot be expressed H.N. The nienth Article Wee beleeue one holy Churche a communialtie of holie ones which is the conioyned bodie of Christ or incorporated through the loue to Christ and that the shedding forth of the holy Ghost commeth to passe vnder the obedience of the loue vppon the same For through the holie Ghost wherewith shee is in
where the request was made by Moses to haue this glorie of GOD shewed him the Lorde promised that hee woulde make all his good goe before him it will refourme our iudgement heerein and cause vs to conceiue that it is no other visitation he meaneth here then such as his best children after their offences are forced often to feale at his handes I meane not as the Church of Rome woulde haue it that the Lord doeth thus wreake his wrath vppon them vntill they shall haue made a iust satisfaction for their sinnes but that hee doeth herein prouide that himselfe might receiue no staine by them While albeit hee bee content to bee mercifull vnto them in their sinne yet will hee reserue for all that vnto himselfe the right of a fatherly visitation to declare that he is farre from being a fauourer or friende vnto sinne In this explanation of H.N. his fayth wee heare nothing why vnto GOD there shoulde bee added this worde father and yet it were requisite since hee is called in question for his fayth by all Christian Churches planted thorowe out the whole worlde hee shoulde speake plainely to euerie principall poynt yea or no touching his agreeing or dissenting from them The cause of his silence herein is for that hee acknowledgeth no distinction of persons to be in the Godhead wheras of purpose this worde father is set downe in the Creede and Articles of our fayth to meete with that mischiefe of H.N. and others the like their errours and heresies It had beene requisite likewise since in so short a draught of Christianitie we may not thinke anie thing to bee superfluous or vnnecessarie that hee had shewed some good helpe for the strengthening of our fayth to haue come from that almightie power which the Almightie shewed in the workemanship of heauen and earth whereof there is expresse mention made to that ende in this place The Scripture doth discerne the Lord from all Idols by this alone marke of his Maiestie the Gods saith the prophet which haue not made heauē earth shal perish frō the earth frō vnder those heauens The scripture doth likewise make it a strōg fortresse of our faith which driueth out doubtfulnesse distrust as we read of Abraham that he did not doubt of the promise thorow vnbeleefe but was strong in faith because he was well assured that hee which had promised was of sufficient power and abilitie to doe it And vndoubtedly when we shal vnto anie promise of the Lorde ioyne in serious earnest consideration this remembraunce withall that it is the promise of that God who by his power out of nothing brought all the faire furniture of this world it cannot but be forcible to keepe off such doubtes of hauing the promises of God performed as fleshe and blood are full of Good reason it is therefore that H N. should not haue beene altogither silent in a matter of so great importance but of that wee heare nothing There is another matter that he shooteth at to wit after he hath affirmed God to bee a true being to proue that the same being is god the fathers name his loue it self for they are his very words Now he bringeth no other proufe of it then that of Iohn where it is sayde That God is loue but no woorde heard that his being shoulde be no other thing beside loue it selfe which is the matter that he woulde willingly establish Now this is his accustomed craftie and subtile dealing the sooner to deceyue the simple thereby hee will aduouche Scripture when hee setteth downe most absurde thinges albeit there bee no parte of his opinion established thereby It sufficeth him if there bee founde in the Scripture one of those woordes that hee vseth howe farre soeuer hee swarue in sense and meaning from the purpose of that place from whence hee taketh it For what reason is there in this to say because GOD is loue therefore his essence and beeing is loue Shall euerie thing that a man is become an essence and beeing vnto him One man is religious riche learned well fauoured temperate chaste humble charitable yet are not all these his essence and beeing For one thing cannot haue more then one essence and being And in trueth none of these can be called the essence and being of a man for there bee men that want all these and yet haue the essence being and nature of men Nowe albeit the Almightie cannot bee without loue yet therevpon it followeth not that his being is loue no more then it doth to say fire cannot be without smoke nor snow without whitenesse therefore the essence and naturall being of fire is smoke and the substancial nature and being of snow is whitenesse which is well knowne to bee most vntrue Moreouer mercie wisedome righteousnesse strength and holines al these be as neare the nature being of the Lord as is loue for as he is loue so is he wisdome righteousnes holines strength all these are absolute perfect in himselfe But if all these seuerally should be his essence being then should there be many beings natural essences of one thing nay distinct natures beings of the same thing then the which what can be more mōstrous For the Lord God is but one in essence being howsoeuer he be three in person and therfore this assertion of H. N such like which being graunted do necessarily inferre that the Lorde God is not one in nature and being are daungerous nay hereticall and blasphemous It is no new thing to haue such slender proofes from him for such straunge opinions for it is his cōmon and general practise throughout al his bookes and therefore it is assuredly true that if his religion were no better stayed and vpholden by the wealth and fatnesse of some in that familie then it is by authoritie from the Scriptures the credite thereof woulde haue beene cracked with diuerse of them long before this time I thinke H.N. hath beene his scholler who now of late hath brought to light and taught a kinde of perswasion which he calleth a princely proofe whereof hee speaketh thus Oratione persuadere non Regium sed Oratorium munus esse Regiam autem persuationem in donis ac muneribus sitam esse oportere It beseemeth not a King but an Oratour to perswade by speach for a King is to perswade by giftes and rewardes And surely H.N. his proofes are altogether Princely by rewardes and giftes as for proofes and perswasions from the scripture by worde or writing whatsoeuer shew of sufficiencie bee made that way yet in truth he is content to let that alone to poore Oratours and the meaner sort of men as ouer base and beggerly for so mightie a personage as is himselfe Touching the number of authorities that here are brought foorth this one thing I am well assured of and so will euerie man affirme that shall with anie iudgement examine the same that vnlesse
seate habitation Neither haue the arguments tokens of his loue here had their end but he hath set him on his right hand that is hath cōmitted the whole gouernment administratiō of his kingdome heervpon earth into his hands How can it goe harde with vs when our mediatour and he that hath had all these dealings for vs is become so great with our God as to bee made the head of his church to haue receiued the gouernmēt charge ouer his chosen May we not with the Apostle triumph say Who shal lay any thing to the charge of Gods chosen it is Christ which is dead or rather which is risen again nay which is at the right hād of God making intercession for vs If his death brought vs from such danger what benefite wil this his life bring vnto vs and against how many and how great dangers shal it be able to defend vs If when we were enimyes we were reconciled vnto God by the death of his sonne much more beeing reconciled we shall be saued by his life For both the instrument hath now more power and strength to performe and the matter is the fitter to be wrought vpon Christ is not entred into the holie places that are made with hands which are similitudes of the true sanctuary but is entred into very heauen to appeare now in the sight of God for vs Seeing then we haue an high Priest whiche is ouer the house of GOD let vs draw neare him with a true heart in assuraunce of faith sprinkling in our heartes from an euil conscience and washed in our bodyes with pure water abhorring from our heartes this cursed and comfortlesse Christ which H.N. hath brought out not meaning to comforte feede but to pyne famish his familie withall We haue not onely comforte by our Christ touching his priesthood for that he appeareth nowe in the sight of our God for vs and that the sacrifice is continually before his eyes whereby we stand discharged against sinne and made acceptable and in good fauour and grace with our God neither yet for that he beeing ascended on high and leading captiuitie captiue doth giue giftes to his Church generallie and to the seuerall members therof particularly in gouerning them by his spirite and worde beeing forcible by the working thereof to promote his glory in them but also touching his kingdome because he is our Christ to whome is giuen all power both in heauen and earth and of whome it is written The Lorde saide vnto my Lorde sitte thou at my right hand vntil I make thine enemyes thy footestoole Be thou ruler in the middest of thine enemyes without whose licence and leaue euen in his humilitie lowest estate the deuils themselues durst not to deale no not against Hogges and swine And therefore beeing now exalted into such glory how dare they be bolde to attempt any thing against the least of his seruantes without speciall licence from himselfe The Familie can finde no such comforte in their counterfaite Christe who setteth and breedeth onely in their braine hatching his reuelations and coyning these such like mysteries ruling ouer no other enemyes neither beeing carefull to kepe of other aduersaries besides the true naturall meaning of the worde of god Thus as you haue hearde hath H.N. stopped the heads of all the wel springs of life taking from vs all the seuerall comfortes which by these Articles of our beliefe we are lawfully intituled vnto sending vs to dig pittes in our selues and there to seeke for this spring of life where by the worde of God wee are well assured it can neuer be founde H.N. The seuenth Article We beleeue that Iesus Christ shal come from thence namely from the right hand of God his father out of heauen to iudge the liuing and the dead Wee confesse that he wil euen so in his cōming shewforth his great power and maiestie and make manifest with him the glorious Lordlines of the many thousands of his holy ones in their garnishing possesse his inheritance with God his father and with al his saintes in triumph and perpetual ioy euerlastingly And iudge euē so with all his holy ones as a righteous Iudge the worlde and all nations generations and languages according to the trueth with righteousnesse Answeare This cōming of Christ to iudge the quicke the dead is by the doctrine of H.N. in this life yea it is euen now in this time whē H.N. and his doctrine are manifested and brought to light Now saith H.N. shal the glorious lordlynesse of the many thousand of his holie ones in their garnishing be made manifest now shal Christ possesse his inheritaunce in triumphe perpetuall ioy euerlastingly and iudge euen so all nations and languages according to the trueth with righteousnesse In his title I haue sufficiprooued that the day of iudgement is in this life if we wil beleeue his doctrine and that it is no other thing then the publishing of this his doctrine Yet because I woulde not haue any sent away vnsatisfied herein I will adde one or two testimonies vnto the former In his Euangelie cap. 34. thus he speaketh of that matter Behold and consider my beloued how wonderfully god worketh in his holie ones and how that now in this day or light of the loue the iudgement seate of Christ is reuealed and declared vnto vs out of heauen to a righteous iudgement vpon earth from the right hand of God how that on the same iudgement seate of Christ that the Scripture might be fulfilled there sitteth one nowe in truth in the habitation of Dauid which iudgeth vprightly thinketh vppon equitie and requireth righteousnesse Through him God will now in this day which he him selfe hath appointed or ordained thereunto iudge the compasse of the earth with righteousnes In which this same day or last time namely in the perfection of the woorkes of God and in his righteous iudgement the God of heauen hath now declared him selfe and his Christ togeather with al his Saints vnto vs his elect also made a dwelling with vs and brought euen so vnto vs out of his holy beeing the most holy of his true tabernacle with the fulnesse of his garishing and spirituall heauenly riches to an euerlasting fast standing Ierusalem and house for Gods dwelling according to the Scripture the which is the very true vndisturbable kingdome ful of all godly power ioy and of al heauēly beautifulnesse wherein the laude of the Lorde with fulnes of eternal life and louely sweetnesse is song from euerlasting to euerlasting and wherein al mindes of pure hartes doe dwell liue and walke with freedom and christian triumphe in al loue He professeth heere that the iudgement seat of Christ is now reuealed in this day of loue that God wil now in this same day through him whom hee hath appointed that is him selfe for this same place and authoritie out of the 17. of the Actes hee hath
expectation of the latter daye and the glory therof When Paul will set out the commendation of the Thessalonians and fame that was geuen out of them in all places he doth no otherwise cōmend thē then that they we are turned from idols to serue the lyuing god to waite for his sonne from heauen which should bestowe vpon them this benefite to delyuer them from the wrath to come And in the second to the Thessa. persuading them by that which was in most reuerence regard with them and likest to bringe them into the carnest consideration of his words he frameth his speach thus I beseech you brethrē by the comming of our Lord Iesus Christ our gathering together and vniting vnto him So that the loking the last daye semeth to hym to be in great reuerence regard and assured expectation amonge them when he maketh their reuerence vnto that the matter and grounde of this exhortation And when he laboureth to lift them of the earth comonly he reareth them vp with no other instrument than this the waitinge for the glory and hope of an other life In the 3. to the Colossians he reasoneth thus When Christ which is your life shall appeare then shall you appeare with him in glorie mortifie therfore your earthly members vncleanes couetousnesse which is Idolatrie And in the thirde to the Philippians openyng the meane of their staie from huntinge after the Earth with the false Apostles which minded earthly thinges Hee saieth thus But our conuersation is in Heauen from whence wee looke for a Sauiour euen the Lorde Iesus who shall chaunge our vile body that it may bee like his glorious bodye In the eleuenth to the Hebrewes the obedience of Abraham in leauinge his owne Countrey not knowinge where he should become is ascribed to this that hee waited for a Citie that had a foundation whose maker is GOD for all things in the worlde are subiecte to corruption The great thinges that are spoken of Moises in accountinge the rebuke of Christe to bee of more valewe then the treasures of Aegypte and his not fearing the furie of the Kinge is onely imputed to this that hee was as if he had seene him that is inuisible The comming of the glory of that great GOD was alwayes before his eyes The greatnesse of the thing and the excellencie of it is noted in these woordes The glorye of the greate God our Sauiour Christe It is the same glory the great GOD our Sauiour Christe inheriteth that wee waite for It is worth the wayting for there is cause why wee should bee mooued to sobrietie hauing so greate thinges in expectation Wee beseeche you saith Paule that ye would walke woorthy of GOD who calleth you to his owne kingdome and glory The glory of this worlde daseleth our eyes and therefore must we be drawne vp by meditation of greater things before wee shall be able to let these be of small reckoning with vs The greatnesse of that glory once thorowly digested would set these in a base and lowe place it would make them vanishe as Smoke from our presence The expectation of a transitorie kingdome when it is but once deuoured and digested by hope we see it maketh men neglect liues goodes landes friendes children and countrie to hazard all The Merchant that is in expectation of some great gaine wee see into what vnknowen Countryes into what daungers by the Seaes hee will commit himselfe The great regarde and care that is had euery where to thinges heere belowe the gredie following after them the carefull pursuing of pleasures profites and honours doe plainely speake that the hope of an other life is not yet setled in the heartes of a great number Let vs call to remembraunce howe that this is our day to waite it is our time to serue when Christe whiche is our life shall appeare then shall wee bee glorious and appeare with him in glory There is no pleasure which the Lorde hath not matched with some griefe and paine to take off if it might our delight and to fasten it in surer thinges If the glory of God cannot preuaile with vs if it cannot chaunge our taste how shal we looke for renewment If so great hyre as is his owne glorye cannot allure vs brutish sencelesse must our nature needes bee What a greater argument can we haue of our blockishnesse then that so greate thinges can get no more attendance The trueth is we are not perswaded of the excellencie of them and therefore in all those places alledged for the wayting of his comming there is the benefite set foorth with it and the greatnesse of it which poynteth at our darkenesse and vnbeliefe heerein and telleth vs that the glory of this world standeth as a cloude betweene it and our sight To conclude let vs inlarge our hope and by meditation and Prayer enter into some consideration of the length breadth and deapth of that glorye so shall we see such a portion in it as will comforte vs euen in our greatest afflictions counting it a great honour that wee are vouchsafed his seruice as the Apostles haue done Nowe wee are to consider of that which is the thirde thing in this our diuision to wit what was geuen to make vs good schollers in this his doctrine to become a people zelously geuen vnto good woorkes The gift is so great as himself for he gaue himselfe for vs He laide not downe his life at the pleasure of his aduersaries being otherwise vnwillinge but franckly and freely of his owne accord did yelde it vp for vs This is that which we esteme aboue the benefite often times the minde of the geuer Great gifts are darkned when they come from an vnwillinge mynde and leese their cōmendation but a willinge minde aduaunceth the lest gift that can be No man taketh my life from me saith our Sauiour Christ but I layd it downe of my selfe His willingnesse also appeareth in this that he went foorth to meete them askinge of them whom they sought and confessing him to be the man As his aduersaries did not compell him by violence to leaue his life no more did good deseruing on our part procure him thervnto And therfore S. Iohn doth herein note a speciall thinge that he beganne with vs and prouoked vs vnto loue and not wee hym This loue was voluntary and not forced It had likewise the preeminence of beginnyng and prouokinge and was neither borne nor begotten of any former benefite of ours to himward In this gift that was geuen we are to remember not onely that moment of his passion wherin he passed imediatly from life to death but also the whole course of his life while he had his aboade with vs here vpon earth For he serued vs with his life as wel as with his death performing in it all that obedience which the Lord requireth of man And this obedience vnto the lawe could not be vrged of
duety vpon hym who was Lord of the law in his owne name and for himselfe but onely in respect of vs whose cause and person hee was content to sustaine Touching his life what a rare argument and token of good will was this to begin withall that he would be abased so farre for vs as to lay downe the maiestie glorie wherein he was nothing inferiour to his father and to take vpon him the estate and condition of a poore and miserable seruant to leaue the highest estate in heauen and to goe vnder the basest condition here vpon earth to chaunge the highest dignitie with the basest condition the greatest glorie with the greatest infamie the place that hath superioritie ouer all with that which is to serue all what is the glorie of all kingdomes in the worlde if they were ioyned together to the glorie of Heauen and yet howe impossible were it to intreate him who is king of the least Islande in the worlde to chaunge his estate with a seruant to leaue the glory of his kimgdome and to imbrace the estate of the meanest subiecte and seruant in the lande VVhat subiect howe friendly soeuer in former times he had beene to the Prince could after long sute preuaile thus much with him and beholde the king of heauen and Lord of life doth force this friendship vpon his enemies It requireth our earnest meditation of the matter to consider the greatnesse of the goodwil that lyeth vnder it for it hath neuer before or since been heard off that the sonne his life should be the price to purchase vnto the seruant his fredom that the sonne should be sould to serue to the end the seruant nay enemie might be made free Wonder at this worke thou earth be amased at it ye heauens for frō the beginning if al your regesters were searched the like shal not be heard of at any time to haue happened The gift had beene exceeding great if wee should haue had no more at his hands then is the seruice of his life lead in all maner of obedience for our sake heere vpon Earth but after this obedience vnto the will of his father in all duetie accomplished he himselfe must passe thorow death and so become a slaine sacrifice for the sinnes of his seruants Wherin let vs a litle beholde the weight of suche a worke so shall wee make the better account of him who hath wrought it for vs Let vs behold his behauiour when the time approched of his appearing before the iudgement seat of the righteous God for sinners Which although it be but the enterāce into his passion and suffering wil notwithstanding let vs haue some sight and tast wherby to discerne how hard a work he had in hand When he was to enter the answearing of sinne he went as appeareth in the Gospel after Saint Mathew into a place called Gethsemane saying to his Disciples Sit ye heere while I goe and pray yonder While he was on the way he began to waxe heauy sorowfull and greeuously troubled In so much that he complaining of his grief vnto Peter and the two sonnes of Zebedeus whome he tooke with him saith vnto them I feele my heart heauy vnto death tary ye heere and watch with me The paine pressed him so sore that hee craueth the eomfort of their presence in that combat Yee may well consider that it is no small matter which driueth the sonne of God to intreate his Disciples to watch with him But are they able to afforde him any helpe In trueth they can giue no helpe vnto the mater he hath in hand It is no great thing that is required and yet for al that it cannot be obteyned It is no great matter to looke on though the matters which be in doing were neuer so daungerous and yet the Scripture doth tel vs that the chiefe of the Apostles could not hold vp their heads and helpe their maister at his desire while hee yet was but in the beginning of his conflict with so much as a cōfortable countenance no not after he had cōplained of their great vnkindnesse and expostulating the matter with them had vsed these wordes towardes them What coulde ye not watch with me one howre A wonderfull matter that Peter the Prince of the Apostles should bebewray so great weakenesse that beeing sundry times requested by his Maister could not performe towarde our saluation so little a matter as is the looking on So farre was hee from afording either countenannce or speach of incouragement in this cause The Lorde had a speciall purpose in it and we are therfore to drawe speciall instruction from this that there did neuer greater want appeare neither mo infirmities breake out of the Apostles then whē the worke of our saluation was in hand For had they giuen but the least helpe vnto that worke howe should men haue beene kept from matching them with Christ in the matter of mediation For many be so mad that notwithstanding the best of them could not helpe with a comfortable countenaunce when our saluation was to bee procured yet will they haue the meanest of them at least fellowes with Christ at halfe of the Mediatorship for they will not be perswaded but that they must pray vnto them and so haue them fellowes with Christ in the office of intercession Howe hath the holie Ghost met with man his infirmitie heerin and remoued all stumbling blockes that wee might haue free passage to that alone Mediatour betweene God and man the man Iesus Christ Who can deny but that the onely wise God did foresee what great folly and susperstition many would fall into with the Apostles and Saints of GOD and therefore would haue the woorke of our saluation so cleare and voyde of any helpe from the Apostles that the chiefe of them could not bee kept from sleeping at the beginning neither from periurie and forswearing after a little farther proceeding in the same For so farre wer they from healping our saluation forwarde that beeing requested to watch and solace their Maister with their sight in his agonie that they are daunted and lye like deade menne And when they are wakened and reprooued for that they woulde not watche one houre by and by they fall faste a sleepe againe so that no manner of comforte can bee had from them And no maruell for the Almightie had determined that the combate should be single perfourmed of one alone and therefore it coulde not be that Peter and Christe should suffer togither In deede there weare two theeues crucified with him but there was no doubt which thing the learned doe well note that the sacrifice for sinne should haue any supply from their suffering The fourme of prayer which our Sauiour Christ vsed vnto God the father when hee entred into this agonie doth likewise tel vs what paine anguish he did sustaine For sundry times he made this peticion vnto God O my father if it be possible let this cup
it as that their heartie goodwil affection may be seene to appeare thereby towards it This iudgement of God vpon H.N. and his Family speaketh plainly of the Gospel that we can not enioy it if wee giue no better entertainment then they haue done vnto it For as for them they are now farther from the knowledge of the Gospel then they were the first houre that euer they looked vppon the light For Christ is nothing with them but obedience vnto that doctrine which they professe Which may easily be discerned by H.N. his discription of him which is this Christus doth signifie vnto vs saith H.N. the safe making oyle of the God sauing being and yet more plainely is that matter expressed in the Booke entituled Theol. Ger. A booke that euery mā who hath red any of his workes if his owne coūtrimen had neuer discouered it might easely perceiue to haue come frō the same spirit which spake in him These words are founde there touching that matter Vetus homo est Adamus et inobedientia ipsitas egoitas et similia at nouus homo est Christus et obediētia Adā is the olde man disobedience he I such like but Christ is the new man obedience Where that obedience is nothing that he doth is sinne where that is not there is nothing but sinne God hath nothing so proper vnto him wherein by this doctrine of H.N. his illuminate elders be not felowes with him euerlasting life if that we beleeue him is fully felt possessed in this life here is our heauen here is our hell the resurrection is not corporall of the body but spirituall of the minde Now is Christ come to iudgement and this doctrine is the last trump they are rysen againe and in perfect ioy who haue perfectly imbraced it and those haue alredy receiued their iudgement be in hell who do resist it to be gilty of death by the sinne of an other or to be iustified by the righteousnes of an other is a doctrine not onely not receiued of them but throughout all their bookes impugned our sinnes by this doctrine are answeared within vs and no righteousnesse that shall doe vs good is without vs Touching which point this is saide in the Booke alledged before Etiamsi Deus omnes homines quicunque sunt ad se assumeret ipse in eis homo fieret ipsi in eo deus fierent idem in me non fieret nunquam corrigeretur meus lapsus Although GOD woulde take all men to himselfe and were made man in them and they were made God in him and the same shoulde not bee done in mee my sinne and offence shoulde neuer bee discharged They onely are the Church al cōgregations whatsoeuer that ioine not with thē they call thē Synagouges of Sathan and nestes of Deuils they holde that euery man is his owne Sauiour and a Chrst for him selfe euery mā that hath wel profited in the schoole of H. N. is perfit and without sinne To conclude this matter the errours bee so many so foule and so filthy as woulde force the very penne in passing to stay stop the nose The onely way whereby a man should enter to do them good haue they hedged and stopped vp against vs for they say that they onely are spirituall and therefore iudge truely of the word that they haue the sence and we nothing but the words they haue the spirit and we nothing but the letter that they haue the life and we the body they haue the carnel we the shell they haue the sword and we the scabbard To be briefe in this matter of doctrine H.N. turneth religion vp side downe and buildeth heauen heere vpon earth maketh God man and man God heauen hell hel heauen For venom and poyson which will bring present death hath he dispersed ouer euery member article of our beliefe so vniuersall is the poyson of his opinion Touching conuersation howe may wee imagine that there is any soundnesse when the doctrine and vitall partes be thus infected For do we not read in the scriptures that most shameful corruptiō of life hath alwaies followed as a due deserued punishment the corruption of doctrine God gaue them vp saith the Apostle to their hearts lusts vnto vncleannes to defile their owne bodyes betwene thēselues which turned the trueth of God vnto a lye Which thing Priscillianus of whom H.N. hath borowed not only that villanous wresting of the word by allegories but also that monstrous opiniō that periurie and lying be lawfull and may be doon with good conscience to conceale religion confessed beeing condemned to dye for heresie Priscillianus saith Daneus was put to death at Treuyris which is the most famous Citie of Germany hauing confessed before that that hee had oftenten times committed moste shamefull wickednesse with the women of his sect And what a libertie H. N. his doctrine giueth vnto all lewdnesse of life in his allegorie of the woman that is rauished in the fielde I leaue it to the consideration of the godly These be his wordes in his booke called Documentall Sentences speaking of temptations vnto sinne If they take and lay holde on vs with force and violence and that then although we cry there commeth not any power or helpe vnto vs for to withstand them in their force and violence and that they euen so rauish vs against our will so are wee guiltles of the transgressing for we haue cryed to be released of the tyranny of the euil there is no help come vnto vs Of the which guiltlesse transgressing the law likewise witnesseth where it sayeth A woman which is violently taken in the field where as there is not any helpe and so rauished and although she haue cried aloude yet gotten no helpe she shall be guiltlesse of the transgressing What can open anie window wider vnto all wickednesse then this doctrine doeth For if temptations presse vs and our prayers presently preuaile not by this doctrine we are discharged of all daunger from the fact howe often and how grieuously soeuer we shall offende Whom would not this doctrine not onely incourage vnto sinne but also make him impudently secure and senselesse in the same This monstrous birth so beastly and so blinde hath the contempte of the worde and want of care to keepe it in a good conscience nourished and brought forth Wherby we may see with what daunger we walke not onely wickedly but also carelesly against the worde For this spectacle doeth plainly shew that it is more precious in the Lord his sight then that he either can or will put vp at our hands the contempt and neglect of the same And therfore when we see at this day those men who sometimes haue knowne the trueth become as beastes voyde of all reason let vs vnderstande that the Lorde thereby meaneth to magnifie his worde and to let men perceiue the might and Maiestie of the
same For when he cannot abide that they should anie longer enioy so much credite by his word as the shew bare professiō would yeeld vnto them which is al that they would require ▪ but that he wil haue thē turned out of their clouts and laid naked in their shame doth he not from heauē by such iudgements preach declare the maiestie and might of his word Is not that the great seale sent from heauen into the earth to be set vnto the worde for the authorizing thereof For seeing they would not reuerence it brought vnto thē vnder the Lords owne hand and seale of signes miracles they haue forced him by bringing these heauie iudgements vppon them for the further confirming of it to set his seale the second time vnto it Should not all men nowe feare to prophane it when there is here among vs a mark of such maiestie set vpon it Should not euerie man now examine what rereuerence he doth beare vnto it when he seeth for the freeing of it from contempt so great plaine a print of authoritie to be ioyned vnto it Let people now take heed how they cherish that humor within themselues which cannot beare any other teaching of the woord then that which is so interteyned of the eare that it can not bee hired so much as once to vewe and visite the heart Let those feare who cannot digest the word vnlesse with eloquence and wit curious questions prophane hystories and fables the power and strenght of it bee so allayed as nowe there is no more any maiestie in it And seeing we haue such sensible iudgement among vs against them who like not the simplicitie of the worde but will feed of speculations and mysticall matters let them who minister the worde take heede they feede not that affection in them by laying on such painting and colours as may rather make them wonder at the workemanship then take any profite by the worke Let them teach and exhort with wholsome doctrine not onely planting knowledge in them but earnestly calling vpon them to keepe their knowledge in a good conscience and so much the rather because wee see before our eyes what a daungerous shipwracke they haue made euen of knowledge who haue gone vnto the sea with it in the riuen vessell of a corrupt conscience Let them styrre them vppe to haue their reckoning in a readinesse seeing the Lorde hath alreadie begonne to visite the contempt of his woorde Let them vrge them likewise to seeke for iudgement in the word whereby to discerne spirites that seeing nowe we bee sought and sifted that way by Sathan we may be found sufficiently armed likewise on that side against him lest wilful ignorance should bee punished in vs with obstinate errour Let vs prouide that those may be ioyned togither which the Lord cannot abide to put a sunder that zeale for lacke of knowledge doe not degenerate either into some daungerous schisme or superstition neither yet knowledge for want of zeale affection either into vnprofitable curiosity or els into some horrible heresie Touching those who be of opiniō that these heresies will vanish away of thēselues because the matter is so grosse the men be so vtterly vnlearned and therfore would neither haue sword nor pen pulled out against them They are to be required that they woulde vouchsafe to haue their iudgemēt waied by the word so should they find it lighter then the wind For doth not the Apostle tell vs that want of affection and loue towards the truth pulleth the eyes of our knowledge out of our heads procureth belief credit vnto manifest lies vntruthes insomuch that where this iudgmēt of god entreth the greatest vntruthes shal not be receiued waueringly in opinion but cōstantly in beliefe strong perswasiō now with what affection the gospel is receiued of many among vs whether with so good an affection as will warrant vs that way I think in this behalfe a good confession is much better then an euill defence And touching the want of learning in the patrons of these heresies who knoweth not that Alexander the Copper-smith wrought more woe vnto the Apostle S. Paule by hindering the course of the gospel then any either eloquent Orator or subtile Philosopher For when simple men such as be artificers thrust forth themselues with as much boldnes as blindnesse to be guides for others vnto God forthwith that is fathered by the multitude vpon the miraculous extraordinarie worke of God and therefore they will haue all of them who haue atteined vnto knowledge by ordinarie meanes of necessitie yeelde and giue place to their better superiour My purpose was at the beginning to haue dealt onely with his booke intituled Euangelium Regni but finding it stand often vpon one thing as what order can confusion affoord vnto vs I thought I should better prouide for the Reader if I should examine his iudgement vpon euerie seueral article of our beliefe which he hath set downe in his first exhortation and withall for the better vnderstanding thereof should cite these places out of his Euangelie where hee handleth the same matter and that so largely as it may easily appeare vnto all men that neither I haue missed of his meaning nor yet dealt vnfaythfully by suppressing any trueth in my allegations Where he doth vsually pester his margent with plenty of authorities as if nothing but scripture might at any time be heard out of his mouth It is a bayte layde for the simple who either cannot or will not examen the matter For falshoode wil as wel guard the trueth as those authorities defend the cause he hath in hande I haue perused them one by one which are alleaged to warrant his calling where I am sure hee bringeth foorth the best euidences that hee hath because it toucheth his freehold let them be viewed that is the treatise which I first deal withal and as they deserue so let the rest be beleued Wherin vnlesse I should ouermuch abase H.N. I can no better match him then with S. George as the papistes doe describe him For as S. George loueth to bee alwayes on horsbacke albeit he neuer ride So H.N. hath great liking to be moūting in the margent vpon the autorities of the sacred worde albeit they neuer step forth with him to speake so much as one woorde for him I haue added next vnto that before I enter to examine the articles of the beliefe his iudgement of originall sinne taken out of the 5. Chapter of his Euangelie because those only were the matters which that booke had more and besides that doctrine which is handled in his exposition vpon the Creede His words be wrapped in such darknesse and obscuritie as doe geue euident testimony of his minde that he meaneth to deceiue As for the parts of his arguments they be at such variance with in thē selues that the cōsequens can by no right be denied the good abearing against his antecedent
as one ouercome by reason of so long lack of comforte might say at the hearing of this ioyfull message of H.N. as the wife of Phinehes did when it was tolde for her consolation that shee had borne a sonne The glorie saith she is allredy gone from Israel and therfore let the childe haue his name accordingly and be called Ichauod Now if this were the true worde of GOD and Gospell of Iesus Christ which neuer had seene the light before but by H.N. had beene the firste digged out of darkenesse what ignoraunce is it to confounde the Gospell with the holie Ghoste as if the holie Ghost were no other thinge then the doctrine it self For that place is plainely and expresly mente of the spirite of God and not of any doctrine that he should haue in purpose to send them from Heauen That which hee speaketh further of his office that it is to expresse How that Christ is come againe according to his promise to beget vs anew to iudge vs with his righteousnesse That we might presently enter into the true rest which God hath prepared from the beginning and inherite the euetlasting life is nothing else but a very sinke of absurde doctrine For first howe absurde is this to say That Christ his comming againe shall be to beget vs a new out of the doctrine of his seruice when as the Apostle playnely saith His comming shall bee to render vengeaunce vnto all them tha● are no at that time already borne anewe by obedience vnto the Gospell It is a righteous thing with God to recompenc tribulation vnto them that trouble you to you which are troubled rest when the Lord Iesus shal shew him selfe from Heauen with his mightie Angels in flaming fire rendering vengeance vnto them that doe not knowe GOD and obey not vnto the Gospel of our Lord Iesus Christ It will then be to late to learne when the bridegrome is once come It wil be to late then to seek Oyle for their Lampes Their Lampes shall then be burning that shall bee admitted to enter in with the Bridegrome And therefore he commeth not againe now to beget vs a new but to render vengeance vnto so many as shal not be founde at his comming borne againe and already begotten a newe Besides what a match is that to haue the first cōming of Christ to ioyne in time with the second for that out of the Prophet Esaie is plainely spoken of his first comming in the flesh which notwithstanding is heere ioined with the comming of the Lord vnto iudgement and bringing of the elect into that rest which hath beene prepared from the beginning euen the inheritaunce of euerlasting life Nowe H.N. saith that they bothe take effect at the publishing of this his doctrin Moreouer of this doctrine it doth followe that regeneration is the ioyes of heauen and that when a man doth reforme his life by the word he is presentlie entred into those ioyes which haue beene prepared from the beginning for the elect It doth plainely make the comforts of euerlasting life to be no other then those that are felte of the godlie in this life It bindeth also those ioyes of heauen and euerlasting life vnto this life and vnto the imbracing of H.N. his doctrine that in the receiuing thereof a man should enter the possession of the ioyes of heauen For the place of Matthew is so plaine for the day of Iudgement and for the possessing of such euerlasting ioyes as in this worlde are not enioyed as no thing can be more These be the wordes Then shall the king say vnto them on his right hand Come yee blessed of my father inherite the kingdome prepared for you from the foundations of the world For I was an hungred and ye gaue me meate I thirsted and you gaue me drinke c these were men regenerate and borne againe for he reciteth their fruites of newe life and the workes of regeneration which they had done and these men which had shewed foorth these fruites he then putteth in possession of the kingdom prepared for them from the beginning of the world saying Come ye blessed of my father inherite the kingdome prepared for you If they be then called out to inherite a kingdome which haue practised the fruites of Christianitie before then is there an other kingdome abyding for the Children of God beside that which they are possessed of presently vpon the newnesse and reformatiō of their life For mē are not wont to be called out to take the possession of that which they are alredy entred vpon And how could they haue brought foorth such fruites as the Lord doth crowne vnlesse there had beene newnesse of life before The Apostle Paule affirmeth our estate which trust in Christ to be the moste miserable of all other if so be that we haue no other hope but in this life only For heere the estate of the godly is subiect to so great affliction and persecution that sometimes men that feared God haue beene greatly tempted to followe the wayes of the wicked while they did see them to flourish in all worldly prosperitie inioying as it were a heauen heere vppon Earth and the seruants of GOD almoste continually liuing such a life as that death it selfe might seeme iustly to bee wished before it Dauid professeth that him selfe fretted at the wicked when he did se the prosperitie of them and that his steppes had wel neere s●pt and his feet were almost gone For they are not in trouble saith he like the other sort and therefore pride is as a chaine vnto them The grace of God saith the Apostle which bringeth saluation hath appeared and teacheth vs to deny vngodlinesse and worldlie lustes and to liue temperatlie iustly and godly in this present worlde wayting for that blessed hope and appearing of the glorie of the mightie God and of our Sauiour Iesus Christe If in a sober iust and godly course of life we haue to waite for that blessed hope and glorie which shal appeare with the comming of Iesus Christe then is not that sober iust and godly course of life the blessed hope and glory it selfe For men doe not waite for that which they doe enioy already Wee giue thanks saith the Apostle vnto God since we heare of your faith in Christ of your loue towards all Saints for the hopes sake which is layd vp for you in Heauen If they did abounde in faith towardes Christ and in loue towards the Saincts for the hopes sake which was laide vp for them in heauen Then was not their Heauen hope contained within the limites of this life and much lesse was that fruite of faith loue the hope and heauen it self And lest any man might imagine that I haue taken the aduantage of this one place vnaduisedly penned by the Author let him reade his Bookes and he shall finde it to bee a doctrine often and with great deliberation set downe and
made and accomplished all his woorke and that hee namely the sonne of God Iesus Christ for that cause beareth also all thinges with the woorde of his power and maketh the purging of our sinnes throwe him selfe Answeare I Haue sufficiently before declared that Christians are taught to beleeue in Iesus Christ that it is not enough for them to confesse that there is a Christe or that Christ is the sonne of the liuing god And yet notwithstanding H. N. vsually in explaning the articles of our beliefe shunneth as rockes all words of faith and beliefe and embraseth in steede thereof woordes of confessing whereof he hath as it seemeth conceiued some better liking but the cause thereof he is content to keepe secrete to him selfe Where he professeth that Iesus Christ is the very like being of the liuing GOD his father and that GOD the father through him hath made and accomplished all his woorkes that he beareth all things with the worde of his power and hath made the purging of our sinnes throwe himselfe It shall God willing appeare hereafter in my answeare vnto this reason that he meaneth nothing lesse touching Christ then that his woordes seeme at the first sight to giue out of him As for his reason which is that because GOD the father hath made and accomplished all his woorkes by Iesus Christ in the creation of the worlde therefore hee shoulde make the purging of our sinnes through him selfe alone if it were good and sufficient the holie Ghoste might aswell haue the name of the mediatour and redeemer as Iesus Christ For GOD the father accomplished not that woorke without him Moreouer howe absurde is it that his dealing in the creation shoulde charge him with the woorke of our redemption When did H. N. euer see the obligation whereby at his entring vppon the Creation hee stoode bounde to perfourme the woorke of redemption The Scripture telleth vs hee laide downe his life frankly and freely of his owne accord not to discharge any dutie or debt of his owne growing vpon any former couenant hee had made for him selfe to perfourme but that it was to acquite vs thereby from euerlasting death and destruction which otherwise was in iustice to fall vppon vs And for that cause hath he geuen him this name Iesus as we reade in the Gospel after S. Matthewe Thou shalt call his name Iesus for he shal saue his people from their sinnes He came not then to rid him selfe from the daunger that any former couenant tharge or duetie of his owne had laide vpon him or bound him vnto but to deliuer his people from their sinnes which had laide holde vpon them and as an heauie burden did presse them downe vnto death So that the reason rendred in the scriptures why he had to name Iesus doth sufficiētly declare that it was no priuate cōmoditie of his owne but the saluation of his people that was sought for and accomplished by him And that wee shoulde not doubt of his authoritie or abilitie to goe through with so great a matter as is the worke of our saluation therefore commeth he from God the father with speciall authoritie and graces in all abundance annointed and enabled therevnto And thereuppon hath this name Christ accordingly ▪ which in our tongue signifieth annointed that our faith might not roaue vncertainely about our saluation but directly looke at one both sufficiently authorized and also fully furnished for that woorke where wee might particularly and cleerely see the grounde of al this good will betweene GOD the father and vs For from hence had this league the beginning and here is the hope and assurance that wee haue for the continuaunce of it Wherein the Lord his dealing is in all mercy towards vs that we should haue such specialtie geuen vs as might put out of doubt and point foorth particularly the occasion of our saluation For the scripture which is our euidence doeth not barely mention this matter of our saluation but telleth vs at large by whom at what time it was purchased for vs what price was paid for it what enimies stoode against it and howe great a woorke it was after the beginning to goe thorowe with it and that Christe Iesus did execute both the office of a Priest and also of a Prophet in the accōplishing therof not onely praying for vs in that he was a Priest as appeareth in the Gospel after S. Iohn so declaring himselfe to be our mediatour of prayer and intercession but also offering vppe him selfe once for all a sufficient sacrifice for al the sinnes of his seruauntes and so became in like maner the Mediatour of our redemption In which two pointes of offering praier sacrifice to God for the people did the Priest his office consist Wherein the comfort of a Christian is exceeding great for that he hath so singular a person the force efficacie of whose prayer and sacrifice is dayly in God his sight for him as it is written to the Hebrues Christ is not entred into the holy places made with handes but into very heauen to appeare nowe in the sight of God for vs. And seeing as the Prophet speaketh The Lorde hath sworne and will not repent that he is a Priest for euer it followeth necessarily that there shoulde ▪ 〈…〉 euerlasting vse and fruite of that Priesthoode towards the faithful He did also execute the office of a Prophet towards vs had special cōmission likewise for that fūctiō as appeareth in the Prophesie of Esay The spirite of the Lorde God is vpon me therfore hath the Lord annointed me he hath sent me to preache good tidinges to the poore c. VVhich speache our sauiour Christ in Luke affirmeth to be verified in him selfe being of all other moste sufficient too make true report of the will and pleasure of the father and to deliuer vs from all feare of not atteyning vnto so high and secrete a thing because as saint Iohn sayth he dwelleth in his bosome and is his onely begotten sonne and therefore not onely of all other most deare vnto him but also most priuie vnto his greatest secretes For which cause hee is called by the Prophet Counsellour And in as much as his kingdome wherin should dwel holines and righteousnesse was to be gouerned by the scepter of his worde and preaching of the Gospel he hath promised his presence euen to the ende of the worlde vnto that office and function Goe therefore and teache all nations to obserue what so euer I haue commaunded you and loe I am with you vnto the end of the worlde For by vertue of this function he hath not onely barely and nakedly to set downe a trueth vnto vs but also to woorke effectually with it to transfourme vs into the same that we might geue credite to the promises and be humbled vnto the dueties commaunded The comfort that commeth vnto a christian for that Christ is made our
his is ascended into heauen sitting at the right hand of God his almightie father but with this cautiō that it is like as the scripture mencioneth therof that is as his owne head shall imagine the Scripture to speake when it is transformed from the true and naturall sence into allegories and mysteries of his owne making And therefore after his woonted manner louing to make his Commentarie darker then the Text which hee hath taken in hande to open and explane hee saith That his Iesus hath taken in the heauen raigneth ruleth essentiallie in the heauenlie being that is that beeing free from sin the knowledge of the worde after the letter he is now become altogether heauenly spiritual inspired with knowledge immediatly frō God himself For his Christ after the spirit is him selfe and all that his number who are by obedience vnto his doctrine growen to such perfection that now they sinne no more beeing replenished with the fulnesse of the holie spirit of Christ as himself speaketh And that he meaneth no other ascending into heauen ▪ neither any other taking in of the heauen is euidently proued out of his Euangelie chapter 26. and 10 Section Beholde when as now the law of Moses was in such wise as is said fulfilled or accomplished and had no longer seruice with the death of the sinne and with the beleuers of Christ which through the lawe were dead vnto the law but the spirit of Christ which made the diseassed beleeuers of Christ aliue againe in righteousnesse out of the death of Christ so had then also the Priesthoode in his Images figures and shadowes after the manner of Aaron no more ministration with the liuing in Iesu Christ neither yet gaue it any clerenes more with them because the heauenly clearnesse of Christ and his vpright beeing of loue wherein the disciples of Christ were comprehended excelled farre away all cleerenesse of the figuratiue seruices for that cause the priesthood of Aaron chaunged also with the Disciples of Christ and ceassed by them for with them there was a spirituall heauenly priesthood appeared in vpright righteosnesse and euen so was the same with his seruice established on Christ after the spirit the true light which is an high Prieste that bideth for euer at the right hand of God in the heauenlye beeing whose seruice of the spitituall heauenlie ministration commeth not to passe in the letter nor in the figures but in the verie true beeing Beholde euen so was Christ after the spirit in his office or seruice a minister of the very true and heauenly goods among his disciples and beleeuers and hath when hee had taken in the Heauen multiplied him selfe through his seede of the holie Ghost out of the heauenly beeing to the increasing of his generation the vpright seede of Abraham according to the promises and euen so became Christ fruitfull vpon earth in many thousandes of his Saintes all which he through his death made free or iustified frō the sinne made them aliue through his holy Ghost taking them vp from the earth and assembling them vnto him at the right hande of God his father in the heauenly beeing He affirmeth as you heare in the 10. Section that when the lawe of Moses was accomplished by the death of sinne and had resigned vnto the spirit of Christ which made the deceassed beleuers aliue again in righteousnes thē had the priesthood after the manner of Aaron no more ministration with these liuing neither gaue it any more clearnes vnto them this is his reason because the heauenly cleerenesse of Christ wherein the disciples of Christ were comprehended excelled farre away all cleerenesse of the figuratiue seruices The same reason hee rendreth in the next Section saying that the priesthood of Aaron ceassed with the disciples of Christ for that vnto them there had a spirituall heauenly priesthood appeared who was with his seruice established on Christ after the spirit which is an high Priest that bideth for euer at the right hand of God in the heauenly being In the 12. Section continuing his speach of those to whome nowe the heauenly Priesthood had appeared hee calleth them Christ after the spirite and affirmeth that when he had taken in the heauen he multiplyed himselfe thorowe his doctrine which he calleth his seede of the holie Ghost for beeing perfect they may publiquely teache and professe to the increasing of his generation the vpright seede of Abraham according to the promises and so became Christ fruitfull vppon the earth and assembled many vnto him at the right hand of God his father in the heauenly beeing This is the taking in of the the heauen or the ascending into Heauen of H.N. his Christ and the sitting at the right hand of God his father euen to become heauenly minded and inspired from aboue in all fulnesse with this knowledge and obedience which H.N. requireth in this his seruice of loue Heere is neither hope nor comfort for vs in any other man beside our selues neither is any consolation opened either from the ascencion of Christ either else for that he sitteth at the right hande of God his father only this is confessed that the number of his perfect ones are become inclosers and haue taken in the heauen so that there is no portion of heauen and other true happinesse to be hired or otherwise had vnlesse a man renounce the knowledge of the worde after the letter become voyde of all sinne and perfectly illuminated with thefull cleerenes of H.N. his doctrine The greatest comfort that I see a man who would willingly become a disciple can haue by H. N. his doctrine is that though his religion be very highe and mysticall yet his Heauen is very lowe euen heere vppon Earth among vs For this ascention of his Christe and sitting at the right hande of his father is performed in this life when the disciples become once comprehended of this his heauenly cleerenesse and of his vpright beeing of the loue When shall we once come to the bottom of this dungeon of darkenesse How hard is it when once a man hath giuen way to heresie to finde that stoppe which shall make him stay and recouer himselfe Howe great is the goodnesse of our God that hath armed vs with cleere and plaine doctrine out of his woorde against these and the like daungers and hath left vnto vs the knowledge of his Christ to our exceeding great comfort and consolation insomuch that euery article of our beliefe addeth something to the consolation of a christian For albeit our hope be great in that we heare of him who went downe into the graue in our sinnes that hee is risen againe and so acquite of that danger and iudgement which he lay vnder for the same yet is it much more when we vnderstand that the Lord hath not so left him and caste him of who was the whole dealer doer for vs but hath receiued him into heauen his owne
challenged to himselfe in his title as you hearde before to iudge the compasse of the earth with righteousnesse and that the God of heauen hath nowe declared him selfe and his Christ to his elect with the fulnes of his garnishing and spiritual heauenly riches to an euerlasting house for God his dwelling the which as he saith is the true vndisturbable kingdome full of all godly power ioy and heauenly beautifulnesse wherin is the fulnesse of eternal life And in the 35. chapter of his Euangelie he confirmeth the same in these words Behold in this present day is this scripture fulfilled according to the testimony of the scripture the raising vp and the resurrection of the Lordes dead commeth also to passe presently in this same day through the appearing of the cōming of Christ in his maiestie Which resurrectiō of the dead seeing that the same is come vnto vs frō gods grace we do likewise in this presēt day to an Euangelie or ioyful message of the kingdōe of god christ publish in al the world vnder the obediēce of the loue In which resurrectiō of the dead God sheweth vnto vs that the time is now fulfilled that his dead or the dead which are fallē a sleepe in the lord rise vp in this day of his iudgement and appeare vnto vs in godly glory which shal also frō henceforth liue in vs euerlastingly with Christ raigne vpon the earth Wherin the scripture becōmeth fulfilled in this presēt day like as there standeth writtē therof He affirmeth here in plaine words ▪ that the dead w are fallen a stepe in the Lord rise vp in this day of his iudgemēt appeare vnto H.N. the illuminate elders of his familie in godly glory He affirmeth like wise that they shal frō hēceforth liue in him his felow elders euerlastingly thē the with what can be more erronious For by this doctrine the resurrectiō should be onely of thē that sleepe in the Lord that is of the good of which number he taketh thē to be alone who now receiue his doctrine euerlasting life which they rise vp to enioy should be onely to liue after that course of life which he his illuminat felow elders do keepe For he saith that they are to liue in him and in his fellow elders euerlastingly to reigne vppon the earth If their eies bee not altogeather closed vp who fauour the doctrine of H.N. they may well discerne that this resurrection is not that resurrection whiche the Scripture mencioneth neither is this chaunge of them that imbrace his doctrine that which the Apostle reporteth 1. Corinth 15.52 Which as he testifieth there is to be perfourmed in a moment in the twinckling of an eye at the last Trumpe Nowe I am wel assured experience wil tel thē beside the doctrine of H.N. which confirmeth the same that they are not by and by in a moment after they haue hearde the blaste of H.N. his doctrine partakers of the resurrection that is made elders and illuminate men In the 37. Chapter of of his Euangelie likewise this same matter is testified of him more cleerely yf possible that may be Yea happy is he which now respecteth wel the true light and assembleth him in this day vnto the mercy seate of the Maiestie of God and Christ to his saluation for after this day there shall no day of grace come vppon the earth because all the workes of God and his Prophecies bee come fulfilled according to the scripture in the same And for that the righteous iudgement of God to an euerlasting death and damnation of all vngodly and to an eternall life and saluation of all the holy ones and elect of God becommeth also executed therein This opinion of his is confuted before at large in my answere to that title which hee challengeth vnto him selfe This onely testimony I wyll adde to the former for the ouerthrowe of this opinion If to doe good and liue well be the resurrection of life howe is that true which S. Iohn testifieth that they which haue doone good shall come foorth of the Graues vnto the resurrection of life With what trueth or in what sence can it be said of a man that he commeth forth to that which already he hath in him selfe and is possessed of Nay if this bee the resurrection to arise vp to the imbrasing of H.N. his doctrine with what trueth can it be saide that they which alreadie haue doone good shal come forth vnto the resurrectiō of life whē he is of opinion that we are voide of al goodnes grace vntil we become seasoned with this seruice of the loue And howe can they which haue doone good come out of the graue when by his doctrine they haue come out of theyr graues before they haue done good For death burial vnto sinne are in order before the resurrection vnto righteousnes and newnesse of life What comfort can our faith finde in this article of our beliefe yf H.N. his doctrine be true If all were perfourmed which hee promiseth yet can wee come by no other comfort from him then this that yf wee shall imbrace his doctrine then shall wee lyue as hee doeth heere vppon earth This is all the benefite that our faith obteyneth by the resurrection of H.N. his Christ from the dead H.N. The eight Article Wee beleeue in the holy Ghost and that the same in the oldnesse of the tyme when the dayes of the patience of Christ in the obedience of the holy and gratious woorde ▪ and his seruice of loue are fulfilled becommeth powred foorth from the right hand of God through Iesus Christ namely ouer them all that haue followed Christ in his death of the crosse obediently and haue kept his doctrine with the word of his patience euen vnto the ende that is which are passed through or haue accomplished the Passeouer with Christ till vnto the seconde birth from the dead Or vnto the new life of the true being of Christ Answeare Wee doe heare nothing from H. N. to mooue vs too thinke that the holy Ghost is God which thing woulde not haue beene omitted if hee had been sounde therein seeing he openeth vnto his familie the principles of religiō whereof this is one of the chiefe and setteth downe beside the woordes of our Creede his owne exposition explication of the same seyng also that of all the churches which professe Christianitie throughout the whole worlde there is no one that hath vnto this day imbrased his doctrine or ioyned with him in religion and those which throughly know hym professe warre with him considering likewise that the scripture hath not left vs without sufficient light to prooue the holy Ghost not onely to be God in substaunce one with the father and the sonne but also distinct in person I say in these and suche like respectes his silence in so principal a thing bewrayeth him selfe not to be sounde
of the heauenly goods which are administred and brought thorow the seruice of loue to an euerlasting perfection vnto the vpright of heart and wherin al vnperfect or childish things Images figures and shadowes do ceasse becommeth nowe in this present day O ye louers of the truth euangelized and declared vnto you all and thereto also yee all so well as we were created for to liue therein and are called and bidden vnto the same out of the grace and mercie of God by me H. N. in whom God hath sealed the dwelling of his glorie and his holie name Wee are taught out of the worde of God to beleeue and assuredly to looke for the resurrection of this our flesh which by death is taken downe and layde into the dust For by that league and couenant wherein the Lord standeth bound vnto vs to become our God he hath not onely taken our soule but our fleshe and bodie also into his fatherly protection and that not for the time of this life alone but in like maner for the life to come And therefore our Sauiour Christ Iesus by these words of the couenant proueth that the dead shal rise againe yea that Abraham who had bene alreadie partaker of rising from sinne in truth the shadow whereof H.N. vrgeth for the rising againe of the flesh should haue yet an other resurrection which is to rise vp in flesh and bone to inherite euerlasting comfort as well in bodie as in soule For as the godly doe glorifie GOD here vpon earth both in bodie and soule so shall they likewise be glorified of him in both in the life to come And this is an article of our beliefe and especiall comfort left vnto Christians But how can it be that H.N. should be priuie vnto these such like comfortes who is vtterly ignoraunt of Christ the procurer of thē The Apostle Paule whose conuersation was in heauen and therefore already possessed of the rising from sinne looked notwithstanding for this resurrection of the bodie when it should be chaunged and made like vnto the glorious bodie of Iesus Christ as it is written in the Epistle to the Philippians But our cōuersation is in heauen from whence also wee looke for the sauiour euen the Lord Iesus Christ who shall chaunge our vile bodies that it may be fashioned like vnto his glorious bodie according to the working whereby hee is able euen to subdue all things vnto himselfe It is manifest then by this which hath bene spoken that the resurrectiō of the bodie cannot be drowned as H.N. his doctrine doeth teach vs in the rising from sinne and wickednesse And beside in this short abstract of the principal points of our faith is it possible to perswade any man that one and the same thing shoulde bee the matter and argument of sundrie articles Now by the doctrine of H.N. this article is the same in effect with those of Christ his rising the third day frō the dead his ascending into heauē his sitting at the right hand of God his father yea it is the same in meaning with those of the holy ghost the holy catholike Church the cōmunion of Saints the forgiuenes of sinnes For all these be nothing else besides that estate of life which his doctrine doeth describe to bee the louely being and that estate of perfection which his illuminate elders bee possessed of What cause haue all true hearted Christians to crie out agaynst this doctrine which shrinketh vp so manie and speciall comfortes so proper and peculiar vnto them H. N. The .xij. Article And we beleeue one euerlasting life Amen We confesse that the same euerlasting life is a true light of men and that God hath made and chosen him the man hereto that hee shoulde liue in the same light euerlastingly it is verie true Answere This euerlasting life which H. N. speaketh of is no other thing then that doctrine which he professeth And therfore he calleth it a true light of men according as we haue heard before in his title that in respect of this doctrine he chalengeth vnto him selfe to bee called the true light of the perfect being alledging the same place that here is cited for proofe thereof But least some might say that this place is not plaine inough to warrant this to be their opinion let vs heare himself open his owne meaning more at large These are his owne wordes in the 34. Chapter of his Euangelie Section 4. In this same day or last time namely in the perfection of the workes of God in his righteous iudgement the God of heauē hath now declared himself his christ together with al his saints to vs his elect also made a dwelling with vs brought euen so vnto vs out of his holy being the most holie of his true tabernacle with the fulnes of his garnishing and spiritual heauenly riches to an euerlasting fast standing Ierusalem and house for Gods dwelling according to the Scripture the which is the verie true vndisturbable kingdome full of all godly power ioy and of all heauenly beautifulnesse wherin the land of the lord with fulnesse of eternall life and louely sweetenesse is sung from euerlasting to euerlasting and wherein all mindes of pure heartes doe dwell liue and walke with freedome and Christian triumph in all loue This day of loue is with him as you heare the last time and therefore nowe doeth God make his dwelling with vs and bringeth the fulnesse of his spiritual riches And this kingdome as he sayeth here is the verie true vndisturbable kingdome full of all godly ioy and heauenly beautifulnes wherein is the fulnesse of eternall life He calleth it the eternall life because this doctrine must reigne on earth for euer and therefore in his exposition vpon this Article he doeth not affirme that anie one man shall liue in the same light euerlastingly but speaking indefinitely sayeth the man shall liue in it euerlastingly because there shall bee from hencefoorth in all times hereafter men founde that shall walke in perfecte obedience vnto this Doctrine It appeareth likewise out of his Euangelie that he professeth euerlasting life to be nothing else but his doctrine So that to liue in perfect obedience vnto that is no other thing then to liue in the life euerlasting in that light that shineth therein And it is therefore called euerlasting because it shal be professed for euer and no religion preuaile against it These bee his owne woordes Euangelie 37.13 Therefore also is this day or light of the loue with his seruice in the most holie the last day and the perfection or conclusion of all the workes of God in the which God himselfe with his Christ and with all the thousandes of his Saintes as in the moste holy of his true tabernacle appeareth and commeth vnto the beleeuers and obedient ones to the requiring of his worde to an eternall rest of his holy ones and to a godly consolation for all afflicted
testifieth shoulde be perfourmed of our Lorde Iesus Christe in his comming to iudgement And forasmuch as they cannot bryng one title to prooue those things vnlesse it be amongst men starke mad and deceiued with the enchauntment of false libertie For none can lay anye other fundatiō then that is laide which is Iesus Christ and these things not being proued all their dreames must fall it followeth then that the doctrine of Christ muste bee holden as perfect that it is a meere blasphemie and deceipt of the deuill whatsoeuer they vnaduisedly or vainely boast of a greater perfection of their doctrine then the doctrine of Christ whatsoeuer they promise of the libertie of Ecclesiasticall congregations Now in that they obiect that the holy Ghost was promised which should lead them into al trueth it helpeth thē nothing at all for the scripture which testifieth the holy ghost to be promised the same also testifieth that the promise is fulfilled in the disciples of christ If one part of the scripture is to be beleued it is meete that the other also be receiued That therfore which was perfourmed of Christ Iesus in the disciples 1500 yeeres agoe and more they vaynely dreame to be differred vnto their time The Apostles were led by the holy Ghost into all truth asmuche as was necessarie for mans saluation and the same spirite doeth yet seale confirme the same trueth in the hartes of the faithfull And the same scripture also testifieth that the holy Ghost wyl deliuer nothyng differing from the mind and doctrine of Christe but altogeather the same Soo Christ said to his disciples That Spirite of trueth which proceedeth from the father that beareth witnesse of me And agayn It shal teach you al things which I haue tolde you Also He shall glorifie me for hee shall receiue of mine and shewe it vnto you So the Apostle Peter calleth the holy Ghoste whiche GOD hath geuen the witnesse of Christ And Paule agreeing in the same saith None speaking by the spirite of GOD calleth Iesus Execrable And no man can say that Iesus is the Lorde but by the holy Ghost As though he should say here by a man may knowe whether any be led by the spirite of God or no to wit yf hee loue Christ and his doctrine and studie to promote it In vayne therefore vnder the pretence of the holy ghost is any other doctrine then of the Lord Iesus Christ hoped for seeing that it is the office of the holy Ghost to beare witnesse of Christ to glorifie him to teache his woordes and to declare those thinges which he hath receiued of him But if the aduersaries wil yet further saie that there is mention made in the Scripture of an imperfect and perfect doctrine and an imperfect one to be deliuered to the Apostles which at the length shoulde giue place to a more perfect according to that For we know in part we prophesy in part but when that which is perfect is come then that which is in part shal be abolished Also Nowe we see through a glasse darkly c. We answere that the Apostle conferreth not the doctrine or Apostolicall knowledge with any other which euer shoulde bee reuealed in this worlde For in these last dayes God hath spoken vnto vs by his sonne that not without cause the time of Christ might be called the last houre the vttermost and very last time the ende of the world to wit because that by him the last declaration of the wil of God shoulde be made but hee respecteth the worlde to come after the resurrection in heauen where mortalitie being put of that which is in part shal be abolished And in the same place the scripture speaking of that perfection of man calleth vs backe to the comming of Iesus Christ vnto vs from heauen So the Euangelist Iohn When Christ sayth he shall appeare we shall be like vnto him for because wee shall see him as he is And Paule to the Philippians vseth these words We looke for from heauen the Sauiour euen our Lord Iesus Christ who shal chaunge our vile bodies that they may be fashioned like vnto his glorious bodie Also to the Coloss When Christ which is our life shall appeare then shal you also appeare with him in glorie And in the Epistle to the Corinthians disputing of the glorie of the faithfull he willeth them to looke vnto the comming of Christ And least that any shoulde thinke that the apostle spake of any other time then of the last resurrection they write that they also shall come to the perfect knowledge sight of god Then saith the Apostle I shall see face to face now I know in part but thē I shal know euen as I am knowen Also he shall change our bodies We shal see him as he is c. But if the Apostles had respected that time which our aduersaries will haue they had bereft themselues of perfect knowledge Our aduersaries therefore are deceiued who after the manner of impacient men wil haue that time of perfection to come before the season and woulde drawe it vnto this worlde But this perfection of knowledge which Paul speaketh of differeth not by nature and of it selfe from that vnperfect doctrine and knowledge but onely it differeth in manner as well in enioying as also in vnderstanding it For now we haue neede of sundrie helpes to atteine to the knowledge of God and to this knowledge may alwayes in this life some thing be added but in the life to come the same knowlege which here is had of him out of his worde shal not bee changed into any other but shal be made perfect by a newe meanes and shall bee had by the onely beholding of god Onely therefore the meanes of obtayning this knowledge shal be diuers and the reuealing more full Because God shal be all in all And that which the Apostle writeth to the Hebrues Therefore leauing the doctrine of the beginning of Christ let vs be led forwarde vnto perfection not laying agayne the foundation of repentaunce from dead workes and of faith toward God of the doctrine of baptisme in laying on of hands of the resurrection from the dead of eternal iudgement He declareth not that there shal at length come a time in this worlde in which there shal be reuealed a more perfect doctrine then that of Christ the Apostles But he calleth the doctrine of the generall mystery of the priesthood of Christ a certayne perfect doctrine in comparison to the first principles of the Catechisme As are the profession of amendement of life of faith in God the doctrine of baptisme and the laying on of hands the article of the resurrection of the dead of the iudgement to come which are as it were the chiefe principles of religion which generally ought to be knowen and vnderstood euen of children when as al do not so perceiue the
excellencie of the priesthood of Christ Therefore not vnfitly is it here called perfection of Paule which perfection hee leaueth not at all to bee declared afterwardes muche lesse too Dauid George or any others but hee promiseth that hee wil doe it Heb. 6. a. 3. which he most happily performeth in the Chapters following vnto the eleuenth Now we haue proued that the doctrine of Christ is to remaine in the Church of God continually as a doctrine which is most perfect notwithstanding that which belongeth to the manner of reuealing and perfection of the same in the faithfull to be wrought in heauen where Christ our lord shal make al his enimies subiect vnto him and further more that to be more vain then vanitie it self with our aduersaries boast of the absolute perfection of theyr doctrine But if further they will yet continue to dispute that a more perfect doctrine then that of Christe is to bee looked for then I woulde haue them by euident tokens to prooue vnto me that their doctrine is it neyther any other againe to be looked for For Dauid George hath boasted that his was the most perfect doctrine now that preacher of the house of loue succeeding him reiecting that of Dauid attributeth the same to his doctrine and agayne another may also conceiue to him selfe the like dreame Therefore wee desire that they woulde with as plaine argumentes prooue their doctrine too bee the moste perfect as Christ our Lorde hath approued his If neuerthelesse they will still pretende that perfection which wee looke for at the comming of Christ then wee desire that they woulde in very deede performe al those things which with vndoubted faith we looke for of Christ Iesus at his comming To wit that their bodies may bee glorious like the body of Christ spiritual celestial not any longer subiect to the miseries of hunger thirst wearines sicknes age and death That their women may beare and bring forth their children without griefe of wombe that all vngodlines being taken away onely righteousnes may raigne that without the helpe of bookes admonitions and such like things which are dayly vsed they may obteine the full knowledge of heauenly thinges and finally that they woulde restore all thinges lost in Adam But as long as they performe not these suche like thinges as assuredly they cannot it plainly appeareth that it is a mere beewitching of the minde or rather an extreme madnes to beleeue such spirites FINIS T. D The iudgement of an other godly learned man touching the same matter MY very deere good freende I cannot answere you so fully as I would in the matter you demanded of me touching mine opiniō of that sort of men that name thēselues the Family of loue my tyme is abridged and my businesses are many yet I must say somthing because you did so friēdly request it How much I may know of the opinions of that sect some can witnes with me that haue been acquainted with my conference had with some of them and with the reading of a good part of their writings But how much soeuer it bee this may suffise to iustifie me before the godly men of vnderstanding for my dislyke of them their heresie that they diguyse themselues with a coūterfait tytle making profession of one thing in woord another thing in trueth deede They terme them selues the family of loue but their meaning is that they bee more thē the Familie euē the loue it self for though they agre not alwayes in al places with themselues sometyme they take this word loue as is stādeth for loue in deed yet in other places they take it after the woordes of Iohn where he saith God is loue so making themselues not the householde of God but god himselfe This they vouch in many places of their writings in saying that they are deified that is made and become gods God is hominified that is made man not meaning of the incarnacion of Christ but as they expresse in another place saying that Adam was al that God was God al that Adā was which woords besides that they contayne blasphemy in them selues so are they made couers to abuse the simple yet for al that this may not bee their name whereby they wil be called that is they wil not be called gods nor goddified nor loue but only the Family of loue Thinking by this meanes sooner to allure the simple whereas otherwise if they should in title themselues Gods desire to be so called they would cause al the worlde to abhorre and detest them as they iustly deserue This name is but a new coate shapen of some bodging workman that knew not how to take the true measure of their bodie their olde coate becommeth them better They are in truth the Libertines those ancient loose lyuers for they lyue as they lyst no law of God or man to controll them as men vnder no law for they are men in deede as they professe beleeue them if you wil that cannot sinne And therfore of the law they make none account the Gospel serueth them to as little purpose they take scorne to aske forgiuenes of sinnes at Gods hands yea they say that whosoeuer prayeth as Christ hath taught vs argueth himselfe of imperfection Christ gaue that precept to his disciples whē they wer yonglinges before they had receiued the holy Ghost after those abundant graces receiued and as they expounde it after that they were deified it is not to be foūd they euer prayed And as their opinion is for prayer so is the practise of their lyfe they hold they may doe all things yea the grossest sinnes that wee make account of and yet in doing cōmitting them they cannot sinne How we may accoūpt of them S. Iohn telleth vs He that saith he hath no sinne is a lyer if they went no further they were lyers but he that saith hee cannot sinne what rekoning shal we make of him This is their loue and their louely sect And while they stand thus affected for the second table is there any meruaile that they stand as euilly minded in the first They cary lyke minds towards al religions whatsoeuer the Turk the Iewe the Barbariā the Papist the Arriā the Pelagiā as wel welcome to them as the professors of the trueth of God they say we haue marred al with making these differences were it not for these diuersities of names whereby we maintaine dissentions their familie would be spred ouer the face of the whole earth And surely I beleeue it for if all men could be perswaded that sinne were no sinne if the iudgemēts of God were remoued from their eyes hearts if they coulde so basely esteeme of Christ and saluation wrought by him as these men doe if they could be perswaded that there were no neede of inuocation and exercise of godlynes I doubt not but the whole worlde woulde quickly become a louely familie I coulde
he take something for their standing other benefit he hath none by them This true essence and being of God which H. N calleth his loue is not according to his doctrine any thing that the Almightie hath proper and peculiar vnto himselfe in that he is God but that which all the faythfull are possessed of and that not in some little measure but so as there dwel liue or rule no other thing in all there spirite thoughtes mind and soule but alone this true godhead with his louely being of the vpright loue For these are his owne words in his first exhortation Chap. 15. and Section 26. The true freedome verily is this that the mā through the ministratiō of the gracious word is wholy released purged or purified frō all wicked nature which hath raigned ouer him that there dwel liue nor rule any other thing in him namely in al his spirit thoughts mind soule but alone the true godhed with his louely being of the vpright loue yea to be so wholy replenished with all vertues of God that there flow nothing in him but the spirituall heauenly and liuing waters And because H.N. his doctrine tendeth to establish a kinde of loue which in his opinion is the true beeing diuinitie and deitie of God therefore he calleth also his counsell and instruction this true being For thus he speaketh in his first exhortation Chapiter 12. Section 54. If yee stand minded to feare the Lorde to bee obedient to his lawe that passeth foorth presently out of the true Sion his word that passeth forth presently out of the heauēly Ierusalem giue ouer your selues after my counsaile and instruction according to it al as the Lord hath reuealed the true being vnto me out of Sion and Ierusalem wholy and altogither so will I then in like maner euen out of the heartie loue stand seruiseable so much as I may in the Lorde vnto you dayly and at all times thervnto to the end you should feare the highest God and might learne to knowe his righteousnesse For his righteousnesse is the loue the true being and the euerlasting life Speaking as you heare of his doctrine and exhorting them to the imbracing thereof hee calleth it the true being when hee sayeth according as the Lorde hath reuealed the true being vnto mee And in the ende he concludeth that the righteousnesse which he teacheth is the loue the true beeing and the euerlasting life So that the Deitie and beeing which H. N. giueth vnto GOD is no other then that which mortall men attaine vnto For the righteousnesse which they perfourme by his doctrine is as he sayeth the loue the true being and euerlasting life And forasmuch as this true being is no other thing with him then that loue which by his doctrine manie are made partakers off therefore in the beginning of his Euangelie H.N. affirmeth himselfe to be godded with God in the spirite of his loue and likewise sayeth that he was the true light of the perfect being And in his first exhortation Chapter 17. Section 5. The Childe confesseth of the Father and eldest Elder that the moste highest hath reuealed the possession of his moste excellent Maiestie in him and that with the same being of the perfect Godhead he hath made a godly dwelling with him This doctrine doeth vtterly ouerthrow the true diuinitie deitie of God it robbeth him of his true essence and beeing and couereth him with no other essence nature or being then is found in man it setteth the creator among the creatures and it matcheth the the creature with the creator The Lord if it be his good wil open their eyes that they may see it giue them harts that may blush and be ashamed of such blasphemie that e●that they may receiued in true repentance or otherwise if they will still harden their hearts that wee may see them laid downe in their confusion and couered with their owne shame H.N. In which name of the father wee are plucked Section 3 thorowe the seruice of his holie and gratious word vnder the obedience of the law of the Lorde of the beliefe of Iesu Christ and of the loue of the holie ghost by the father to the loue of his onely sonne Iesu or Sauiour the very like beinge or substaunce of his Godhed and euen so baptised or washed in the same name of the father Which plucking of the father and baptising in Section 4 the fathers name hath the foregoing by vs in the administration of the holie word vnder the obedience of the loue with the Law or ordinaunce of the Lorde And with his correction or discipline wherewithall we euen so as in an enmitie against the sinne beecome preuented and infourmed to an incorporating in the godlie righteousnesse For euen so in the becomming baptised in the name Section 5 of the father doth the Lord chastise or nurtur with his lawe euery man which hee plucketh or receiueth vnto him where through it becommeth than all made manifest in the man whatsoeuer becommeth chastised by the light or through the light Section 6 Through which fatherlie discipline in the becomming manifest of the sinne we are in seeing perceiuing in the light all the horriblenes of the sinne togither with Deuils and the fleshes lying craftie deceitful or false nature and Gods indignation and wrath ouer the same ouer all such as are of one minde therwith Section 7 When we nowe finde our selues guiltie in al and become in such sorte chastised by Gods grace through his light of the fatherlie loue so beare wee at that time greife sorrowe and anguish or affliction for the sinnes cause and confessing the same sinnes with humble heartes in the seruice of the holie word vnder the obedience of the loue of the father wee become wholy inclined and goodwilling to hate to leaue and to lay away or to mortifie the sinnes and all what is vngodly and to that effect we doe as than wholly giue ouer our selues in the counsaile of the holie worde and of the elders in the seruice of the loue To the ende that God the fathers name according to the requiring of the seruice of his loue might become hallowed and magnified in vs. Section 8 And euen so in the familie or communalty of the Loue wee obtaine grace and fauour before God the father and his sonne Iesu Christ become through the seruice of the holy woorde and of the fatherlie correction kepte and led foorth euen vnto Iesus Christ the sonne of GOD the father For to become iustified released or made free through the name of the sonne vnto whom God the father hath giuen all power both in heauen earth from the sinne ▪ and from her kingdom of the death of the Deuill and of all wicked spirites namely to our preseruation in the godlinesse in the
great and terrible day of the Lord of the righteous iudgemēt of God which shall burne in wrath or fire ouer all vngodly which haue dispised the loue in her seruice and requiring and refused the fatherly correction as a fire to their euerlasting condemnation in the fire of hell which is prepared for the deuill and his angels or ministers In which preseruation and extending of grace or Section 9 merciful fauour of our God sauiour God the father with the discipline of his lawe manneth himselfe according to the inward man with vs and we become like wise with the cleerenesse of his godly light wherwith all he with the law of his chastising is alwaies against vs in the sin godded or made conformable in a good willing spirit to the vpright righteousnesse with him to the end that wee through his owne beeing should beare or cary as men of God his holie name vnder the obedience of his lawe and liue and walke euen so according to the lawe or ordinaunce of his true beeing in all loue Answeare The Riddels darke speaches of H.N. I meane God willing to touch hereafter in a place proper peculiar to that matter the name of father that we may learne with Alphabetaryes first to spel and then to ioyne together signifieth his loue as appeareth by the last line of the former Section the line that went immediatly before this By plucked or plucking hee meaneth Baptising as appeareth out of the fourth Section and first line Sauiour is a preseruation in all godlinesse and noteth vnto vs an estate when men are voide and free from sinne and walke in all loue as is apparant in the 8. and 9. Section The very like being substance of his Godhead is nothing else but loue as appeareth by the last line of the 2. Section Now to ioyne these together this he affirmeth that we thorow the seruice of H.N. his holie gratious word our obedience thereunto are led of the father to the loue of Iesus Christ So that by his doctrine God the father bringeth vs no otherwise then by the hand of our owne obedience vnto the loue of Iesus Christ Our obediēce must necessarilie go before for we are to passe thorowe the seruice of the holie and gratious worde vnder the obedience of he lawe of the Lorde to the loue of his only sonne Iesus or sauiour These be his owne words And this is that which is contained in the 3. Section He describeth particularlie in the 4. Sections folowing How we becom thus preserued frō sin to walke in al loue which is our baptising in the fathers name affirming that the law of God cōmeth first with correction or discipline letting vs see sinne the deuil and the flesh their lying craftie and decietfull or false nature and God his indignation and wrath ouer the same and thereupon groweth griefe and sorrowe for sinne a minde wholly inclined to mortifie it and then they giue ouer them selues wholie to the coūsel of the holy worde and the elders in the seruice of the loue And thus are men become preuented and enformed as he saith in the 4 Section to an incorparating in the godlie righteousnesse which is this loue the walking therein These sundry Sections cannot in number compare with the errours therin contained For first in this his discourse vpon the Articles of our belief where hee was to intreate of faith he is wholie occupyed about loue and obedience vnto the law of god So that faith is nothing but deeds in his opinion Loue is beliefe beleeuing is working and louing or working is become beleeuing For he will haue our woorkes and obedience vnto the lawe to get and giue vnto vs the name of beleeuers that in so doing we may be accounted faithfull and that the same should not be a fruite of faith but faith it self So that by H N. his mystical doctrine a riddel darker then was that which Sampson propounded vnto the Philistines is put forth vnto vs to witte howe the sonne should beget the father afterwarde they two make but one man He saith that works beget faith they growe to be but one and the same thing The Scripture affirmeth faith to be the father and workes not to bee children lawfully begotten how faire soeuer they shall bee to the shewe vnlesse they proceede out of his loines So doe we reade in the Epistle to the Hebrewes where all the good woorkes of the godly fathers are fathered vppon Faith and it is said that thorow faith they wrought righteuosnesse Faith is swallowed vp of works by this doctrine For they are made all in all with H. N. he maketh no account of our perswasion of the goodnesse of our God thorowe the mercifull promises of his worde and therefore altogither leaueth that doctrine when he is euen haled vnto it by the matter which he hath in hand and falleth into the discourse of workes The Apostle Saint Iames keepeth a cleane contrary course for when he is forced by the matter he hath in hand to aduaunce woorkes to their highest degree yet doth he hide them vnder the couert of faith sauing of that principall worke of Abraham that this scripture was fulfilled in it Abraham beleeued that was reckoned vnto him for righteousnes so that it was his belief that set that price value vpon it The Apostle Paule likewise affirmeth that Abraham his beliefe was counted vnto him for righteousnes and addeth more that to him who trusteth not to his works but beleeueth in him that iustifieth the vngodly his faith is coūted for righteousnes One the same spirite cannot be Author of such diuersitie The Apostle so commendeth faith that hee affirmeth vs to be accounted righteous thorowe the same vtterly excluding woorkes for the procuring of our righteousnesse But H.N. contrarywise so aduanceth workes that he doth altogither banish faith and cause it as one that dare not shewe his face to creepe into the corner of workes and to lye couered with the garment thereof Neither is H.N. content with this spoyle of faith the chiefe treasure in our house but remembring that he left the house standing turneth backe againe to fire the same ouerthrowing the Sacramentes in like manner and wil haue our Baptisme to be no other thing then this walking in the obedience of his loue and therefore termeth it the plucking of the father or Baptising in the fathers name And that is not the least of his errours although I doe giue it the last place that hee deliuereth in the eight Section That in this communialtie of loue thorowe the seruice of the holie worde and of the fatherly correction which is the sight and misliking of sinne wee are led foorth vnto Iesus Christe to be made free from sinne preserued in godlinesse and to haue GOD manned with vs according to the inwarde man For it giueth vnto man the