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A68537 Herod and Pilate reconciled: or The concord of papist and puritan (against Scripture, fathers, councels, and other orthodoxall writers) for the coercion, deposition, and killing of kings. Discouered by David Owen Batchelour of Diuinitie, and chaplaine to the right Honourable Lord Vicount Hadington Owen, David, d. 1623. 1610 (1610) STC 18983.5; ESTC S113808 40,852 73

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souldiers Then did Egbertus Ex vita Hen. quarti quae habetur in fasciculo rerum sciendarum Coloniae impresso by the Popes encouragement ascend the Imperiall throne whereon he sat but a while for as he stepped aside from his armie into a mill to rest himselfe in the heat of the day he was discouered by the miller to the Emperours friends and lost his life for his labour During this hurly-burly in that state Walthramus a godly Bishop wrote to one Ludovicus an Earle of the Empire diswading him from partaking with the seditious against that good Emperour whom the Pope had deposed Walthram by the grace of God that he is to Lewes the noble Prince with instance of prayer offreth himselfe in all things seruiceable Concord is profitable to euery realme and iustice much to be desired these vertues are the mother of devotion and the consecration of all honestie But whosoeuer seeketh after ciuill dissention and incenseth other to the effusion of blood he is a murtherer partaketh with him who gaping for blood goeth about seeking whō he may deuoure The worthie vessel of election that was taken vp to the third heauen protesteth saying Let euerie soule submit himselfe to the higher power there is no power but from God He that resisteth power resisteth the ordinance of God If that be true which some men prate among women and the vulgar sorte that we ought not to be subdued to the kingly power Then it is false which the Apostle teacheth that euery soule must submit himselfe vnder power and superioritie Epistol Wal. quae habetur in appendice Marian Scot. Can the truth lie did not Christ the Lord speake by the Apostle Why doe we prouoke the Lord are we stronger then he Doth not he thinke himselfe stronger then the Lord that resisteth the ordinance of God seeing there is no power but of God what saith the Prophet Confounded be they that striue against the Lord and they that resist him shall perish Rodolphus Hermanus Egbertus with many other Princes resisted the ordinance of God in Henrie the Emperour but loe they are confounded as though they had neuer beene for as their end was ill their beginning could not be good c. Haec ille Pope Paschalis seeing the bad successe of those seditious subiects which his predecessors Gregorie and Vrbanus had armed against Henrie that worthie Emperour did perswade the Emperours owne sonne against all law of God nature and nations to rebell against his Father The Bishop of Leige tooke the Emperours part against this young Prince for the which he was excommunicate his Church interdicted and Robert Earle of Flaunders commanded by the Pope as he hoped to haue the forgiuenes of his sinnes and the fauour of the Church of Rome to destroie that Bishop and his false preists The Churchmen of Leige terrified with the Popes excommunication and fearing the Earles oppression wrote an apologie for themselues about the yeare 1106. We are excommunicate say they because we obey our Bishop who hath taken part with his Lord the Emperour Epistol Leodiensium apud Simonem Scard These are the beginnings of sorrowe for Sathan beeing loosed compasseth the earth and hath made a diuision betweene the Prince and the Priest who can iustly blame the Bishop that taketh his Lords part to whom he hath sworne allegiance periurie is a great sinne whereof they cannot be ignorant that by newe schisme and nouell tradition doe promise to absolue subiects from the guilt of periurie that forsweare themselues to their Lord the King c. In the progresse of their apologie they determine three great questions first whether the Pope hath power to excommunicate Kings Secondly to whom it belongeth to inflict temporall punishment when Church-men offend against faith vnitie or good manners And thirdly what remedie subiects haue against their kings that are impious or tyrannous Si quis respectu sancti spiritus c. If any man hauing respect to the spirit of God shall turne ouer the old new Testamēt he shall plainly find that kings ought not at all or very hardly be excommunicate whether we consider the etimologie of their names or the nature of their excōmunication Euen till this day hath this point been questioned and neuer determined Kings may be admonished and reprooued by such as be discreete and sober men for Christ the King of Kings in earth who hath placed them in his owne stead hath reserued them to his owne iudgement c. Their answer to the second question is grounded on the testimonie of S. Augustine the practise of Princes and the authoritie of Paul Kings say they and Emperours by their publike lawes haue forbidden heretiques to enioye any worldly possession Wherefore seeing we are no heretiques and that it belongeth not to the Pope but to kings and Emperours to punish heresies why doth our Lord Paschalis send Robert his armourbearer to destroie the possessions and to ouerthrow the villages of the Churches which in case they deserued destruction ought to be destroied by the edict of Kings and Emperours which carie the sword not without good cause c. For answer to the third question they shew by sundrie places of Scripture that there is no other helpe against euill Princes then prayer and patience Nihil modo pro Imperatore nostro dicimus c. We will for the present say nothing in defence of our Emperour but this we say though he were as bad as you report him to be we would endure his gouernment because our sinnes haue deserued such a gouernor Be it we must needs graunt against our will that the Emperour is an Arch-heretike an invader of the kingdome a worshipper of the Simonaicall Idol and accursed by the Apostles and Apostolike men as you say of him euen such a Prince ought not to be resisted by violence but endured by patience and praier Moses brought many plagues vpon Pharaoh whose heart God had hardened but it was by praier and the lifting vp his hands to heauen And S. Paul requireth praiers to be made for all men for Kings and such as are in authoritie which kings were neither Catholikes nor Christians Baruch also from the mouth of the Prophet Ieremie wrote vnto the Iewes which were captiues vnto the king of Babylon that they must pray for the life of Nabuchodonoser the king of Babylon and Balthazar his sonne that their daies in earth may be as the daies of heauen c. Epist 1. eod S. Paul teacheth why we ought to pray for euill kings namely that vnder them we may lead a quiet life It would become an Apostolike man to follow the Apostles doctrine it were propheticall to follow the Prophet c. Thus farre they in their Epistle Apologeticall Vi●● Hen. 4. 〈…〉 He that wrote the life of this Emperour Henrie the fourth aniauncient a modest and an impartiall relator of such occurrents as happened in his time declareth his dislike of the Popes