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A16154 An answer to the demands of a great prelate Touching the hierarchy of the Church. And the just defence of priviledges, and religious men.; RĂ©ponse aux demandes d'un grand prelate. English Binet, Etienne, 1569-1639. 1626 (1626) STC 3073.5; ESTC S120424 67,379 232

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centre_n upon_o which_o as_o upon_o a_o immovable_a rock_n our_o lord_n have_v establish_v his_o holy_a church_n 11._o and_o now_o since_o they_o will_v mould_v the_o hierarchy_n of_o the_o earth_n upon_o that_o of_o heaven_n it_o come_v fit_o to_o our_o purpose_n for_o beside_o the_o angel_n guardian_n who_o be_v they_o which_o go●erne_v the_o world_n in_o the_o ordinary_a ●ay_n such_o as_o be_v good_a divine_n ●ow_o that_o there_o be_v not_o in_o a_o manner_n ●ny_n quire_n of_o angel_n whereof_o god_n do_v not_o sometime_o send_v one_o or_o other_o to_o perform_v some_o great_a charity_n to_o mankind_n sometime_o a_o cherubin_n sometime_o a_o seraphin_n sometime_o a_o archangel_n and_o as_o saint_n paul_n say_v to_o the_o hebrew_n omnes_fw-la sunt_fw-la administratorij_fw-la spiritus_fw-la in_fw-la ministerium_fw-la missi_fw-la propter_fw-la choose_fw-la qui_fw-la hereditatem_fw-la capient_fw-la salutis_fw-la and_o now_o do_v you_o believe_v that_o the_o ordinary_a angel_n take_v it_o ill_o when_o the_o extraordinary_n come_v to_o succour_v and_o help_v to_o save_v soul_n and_o think_v you_o that_o this_o be_v a_o trouble_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n but_o you_o will_v say_v have_v not_o perhaps_o the_o ordinary_a angel_n sufficient_a power_n to_o do_v what_o be_v fit_a to_o which_o i_o make_v you_o this_o answer_n shall_v we_o give_v law_n to_o god_n and_o prescri●_n to_o he_o what_o he_o shall_v do_v and_o sha●_n we_o offer_v to_o change_v the_o unspeakeab●_n design_n of_o his_o holy_a providence_n an●_n of_o his_o charity_n when_o the_o apostle_n be_v so_o load_v that_o they_o can_v no●_n draw_v their_o net_n be_v then_o so_o ful_o fish_n they_o see_v another_o boat_n whic●_n 5._o luke_n 5._o pass_v et_fw-la annuerunt_fw-la socijs_fw-la qui_fw-la era●_n in_fw-la alia_fw-la navi_fw-la ut_fw-la venirent_fw-la &_o adjuvare●_n eos_fw-la so_o far_o off_o be_v they_o from_o mis-l●king_a that_o other_o shall_v put_v thei●_n hand_n to_o their_o work_n that_o they_o 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whether_o in_o very_a deed_n the_o nature_n of_o a_o hierarchy_n consist_v in_o that_o for_o st._n dennis_n of_o who_o all_o the_o world_n have_v take_v and_o learn_v what_o belonge_v to_o a_o hierarchy_n and_o saint_n ●homas_fw-la after_o he_o say_v first_o that_o hierarchia_fw-la est_fw-la saier_n principatus_fw-la &_o 1._o p._n p._n q._n 108._o 1._o 1._o multitudo_fw-la ordinata_fw-la sub_fw-la uno_fw-la principe_fw-la 2._o una_fw-la est_fw-la hierarchia_fw-la hominum_fw-la &_o angelorum_fw-la sub_fw-la uno_fw-la principe_fw-la deo_fw-la 3_o in_o divinis_fw-la personis_fw-la est_fw-la ordo_fw-la sed_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la hierarchia_fw-la quia_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la ibi_fw-la purgare_fw-la illuminare_fw-la &_o perficere_fw-la 〈◊〉_d quo_fw-la consistit_fw-la hierarchia_fw-la 4._o non_fw-fr ess●_n multitudo_fw-la ordinata_fw-la sed_fw-la confusa_fw-la si●_n multitudine_fw-la diversi_fw-la ordines_fw-la non_fw-la essene_a ut_fw-la ergó_n sit_fw-la hierarchia_fw-la debent_fw-la e●_n diversi_fw-la ordines_fw-la sub_fw-la unius_fw-la princip●_fw-la gubernation_n in_o this_o sense_n all_o th●_n which_o be_v in_o the_o church_n be_v avow●ed_v and_o address_v by_o the_o pope_n wh●_n be_v the_o chief_a of_o this_o ecclesiastical_a hierarchy_n and_o put_v in_o that_o pla●_n which_o have_v be_v destine_v for_o it_o 〈◊〉_d purge_v illuminate_v and_o give_v perfection_n be_v so_o far_o of_o from_o be_v out_o o●_n the_o hierarchy_n that_o it_o be_v a_o very_a profitable_a part_n thereof_o and_o which_o in_o a●_n time_n have_v do_v admirable_a thing_n for_o the_o service_n of_o god_n of_o the_o churchy_n of_o prelate_n of_o pastor_n and_o for_o th●_n good_a of_o soul_n but_o if_o the_o word_n o●_n hierarchy_n be_v take_v in_o the_o most_o rigorous_a sense_n and_o if_o it_o comprehend_v nothing_o else_o but_o prelate_n and_o pastor●_n and_o they_o who_o they_o employ_v themselves_n not_o be_v able_a in_o their_o own_o person_n to_o do_v all_o that_o which_o be_v fit_a in_o 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facit_fw-la per_fw-la alium_fw-la per_fw-la seipsum_fw-la facere_fw-la potest_fw-la 16._o blasphemiae_fw-la vicinum_fw-la est_fw-la dicere_fw-la quod_fw-la episcopus_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la usum_fw-la clavium_fw-la exercere_fw-la in_o quemlibet_fw-la suae_fw-la diaecesis_fw-la sicut_fw-la &_o christus_fw-la posset_n 17._o potest_fw-la institui_fw-la religio_fw-la ad_fw-la subveniendum_fw-la pauperibus_fw-la in_o necessitatibus_fw-la corporis_fw-la ergo_fw-la multo_fw-la magis_fw-la potest_fw-la institui_fw-la ad_fw-la subveniendum_fw-la animabus_fw-la per_fw-la praedicationes_fw-la &_o confessiones_fw-la 18._o quod_fw-la potest_fw-la inferior_a potest_fw-la etiam_fw-la superior_n quod_fw-la ergo_fw-la potest_fw-la curatus_fw-la potest_fw-la episcopus_fw-la &_o potest_fw-la papa_n cui_fw-la ut_fw-la ait_fw-la cyrillus_n omnes_fw-la jure_fw-la divino_fw-la caput_fw-la inclinant_fw-la 19_o alij_fw-la gubernationes_fw-la alij_fw-la opitulationes_fw-la inquit_fw-la apost_n 1._o cor._n 12._o opitulationes_fw-la 23._o opusc_n 14._o c._n 23._o sunt_fw-la ij_o qui_fw-la ferunt_fw-la opem_fw-la majoribus_fw-la ut_fw-la titus_n apostolo_n archidiaconi_n episcopo_fw-la etc._n etc._n hoc_fw-la autem_fw-la non_fw-la destruit_fw-la hierarchiam_fw-la 20._o alter_fw-la alterius_fw-la membra_fw-la &_o unum_fw-la corpus_fw-la in_o christo_fw-la rom._n 12._o manifestum_fw-la 3._o opusc_n 15._o c._n 3._o est_fw-la quod_fw-la ecclesiasticae_fw-la unitati_fw-la derogat_fw-la quicunque_fw-la religiosis_fw-la impedit_fw-la ne_fw-la docere_fw-la possint_fw-la etc._n etc._n 21._o qui_fw-la romanae_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la privilegium_fw-la ab_fw-la ipso_fw-la summo_fw-la omnium_fw-la ecclesiarum_fw-la capite_fw-la traditum_fw-la auferre_fw-la conatur_fw-la 3._o ibid._n c._n 3._o hic_fw-la proculdubio_fw-la in_o haeresim_fw-la labitur_fw-la ut_fw-la dicitur_fw-la in_o decretis_fw-la dist_n 22._o cap._n omnes_fw-la &_o à_fw-la sancto_fw-it ambrosio_n qui_fw-la ait_fw-la se_fw-la in_o omnibus_fw-la sequi_fw-la magistram_fw-la sanctam_fw-la 1._o l._n 3._o de_fw-la sacram_fw-la c._n 1._o romanam_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la it_o be_v pope_n nicholas_n the_o second_o who_o speak_v against_o they_o of_o the_o church_n of_o milan_n for_o enter_v into_o competition_n with_o rome_n and_o will_v needs_o march_v hand_n in_o hand_n with_o the_o roman_a church_n which_o saint_n thomas_n appli_v also_o to_o the_o point_n in_o question_n 22._o ab_fw-la apostolis_n 7._o diaconi_fw-la instituti_fw-la fuerunt_fw-la qui_fw-la erant_fw-la in_o statu_fw-la perfectionis_fw-la 23._o opusc_n 14._o c._n 23._o nam_fw-la relictis_fw-la omnibus_fw-la secuti_fw-la erant_fw-la christum_fw-la ab_fw-la horum_fw-la exemplo_fw-la omnes_fw-la religiones_fw-la derivatae_fw-la sunt_fw-la quemadmodum_fw-la ergo_fw-la apostolu_fw-la episcopi_fw-la discipulis_fw-la parochi_fw-la sic_fw-la diaconis_fw-la religiosi_fw-la successerunt_fw-la 23._o behold_v here_o be_v a_o part_n of_o the_o proposition_n which_o saint_n thomas_n defend_v at_o paris_n in_o public_a manner_n and_o with_o such_o amazement_n of_o all_o the_o university_n that_o there_o be_v not_o find_v a_o man_n so_o bold_a as_o to_o dare_v once_o stir_v this_o stone_n the_o preface_n of_o his_o book_n carry_v these_o very_a word_n in_o the_o front_n praedictus_fw-la doctor_n post_fw-la divinitùs_fw-la obtentam_fw-la victoriam_fw-la pariseos_fw-la rediens_fw-la omnes_fw-la dicti_fw-la operis_fw-la articulos_fw-la public●_fw-la &_o solemnitèr_fw-la repetens_fw-la disputavit_fw-la firmavitque_fw-la that_o which_o go_v immediate_o before_o these_o word_n and_o the_o sentence_n of_o the_o pope_n be_v a_o thing_n which_o i_o will_v not_o cite_v here_o but_o let_v he_o see_v it_o who_o will_n i_o will_v say_v nothing_o here_o which_o may_v offend_v or_o which_o may_v savour_n of_o recrimination_n or_o which_o by_o any_o ill_a odour_n of_o strong_a passion_n may_v poison_v this_o discourse_n which_o be_v dedicate_v to_o pure_a and_o free_a but_o yet_o strong_a truth_n i_o conjure_v you_o my_o lord_n to_o weigh_v well_o these_o four_o word_n publicae_fw-la solemniter_fw-la disputavit_fw-la firmavit_fw-la so_o that_o all_o paris_n have_v the_o contentment_n to_o see_v this_o great_a person_n sustain_v all_o the_o assault_n of_o the_o whole_a world_n and_o he_o be_v so_o happy_a and_o so_o puissant_a that_o he_o make_v truth_n triumph_v and_o do_v with_o a_o little_a stone_n beat_v down_o that_o huge_a colossus_n which_o man_n have_v erect_v to_o the_o end_n that_o fall_v upon_o he_o it_o may_v drive_v both_o himself_o and_o all_o his_o order_n into_o dust_n 30._o that_o which_o gulielmus_fw-la de_fw-fr sancto_fw-la amore_fw-la have_v enterprise_v at_o paris_n with_o so_o ill_a success_n a_o certain_a richardus_fw-la armaeanus_n the_o primate_n of_o ireland_n after_o he_o have_v play_v rex_fw-la in_o england_n do_v also_o enterprise_n in_o auignon_fw-fr in_o the_o year_n 1356._o under_o innocent_a the_o six_o 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