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A02208 The dialogues of S. Gregorie, surnamed the Greate: Pope of Rome: and the first of that name deuided into fower bookes. Wherein he intreateth of the liues, and miracles of the saintes in Italie: and of the eternitie of mens soules. With a shorte treatise of sundry miracles, wrought at the shrines of martyrs: taken out of S. Augustin. Together with a notable miracle wrought by S. Bernard, in confirmation of diuers articles of religion. Translated into our English tongue by P.W.; Dialogi. Part 1. English Gregory I, Pope, ca. 540-604.; Woodward, Philip, ca. 1557-1610.; Augustine, Saint, Bishop of Hippo. De civitate Dei. Book 22. Chapter 8. English. 1608 (1608) STC 12349; ESTC S121026 216,240 619

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not by reason of suche thunder and lighteninge and greate abundance of raine returne backe to his Abbey began to be heauye and to complaine of his sister sayinge God forgiue you what haue you done to whom she answered I desired you to staye and you wolde not heare me I haue desired our goode Lorde and he hath vouchsafed to graunt my petition wherfor yf you can now departe a Gods name returne to your monasterye and leaue me here alone But the goode father being not able to goe for the taried there against his will where willinglye before he wolde not staye And so by that means they watched all nighte and with spirituall and heauenly talke did mutuallye comfort one an other and therfore by this we see as I saide before that he wolde haue had that thinge which yet he could not for yf we respecte the venerable mans minde no question but he wolde haue had the same faire weather to haue continewed as it was when he sett forth but he found that a miracle did preuent his desire which by the power of almighty God a womans praiers had wrought And it is not a thinge to be maruailed at that a woman which of longe tyme had not sene her brother mighte doe more at that tyme thē he could seeing accordinge to the sayinge of S. Iohn 1. Iohn 4. God is charity and therfore of righte she did more which loued more Peter I confesse that I am wonderfully pleased with that which you tell me HOVV BENNET SAVVE THE soule of his sister ascend into heauen CHAPTER XXXIIII Gregory THe next daye the venerable woman returned to her Nonnerye and the man of God to his Abbey who three daies after standinge in his cell and liftinge vp his eyes to heauen behelde the soule of his sister which was departed from her bodye in the likenes of a doue to ascend into heauen who reioysinge muche to see her great glorye vvith hymnes and laudes gaue thanckes to almighty God and did imparte the newes of this her death to his monkes whom also he sent presentlye to bringe her corps to his Abbey to haue it buried in that graue which he had prouided for him selfe by meanes whereof it fell out that as theire soules were alwaies one in God whiles they liued so theire bodies cōtinued together after theire deathe HOVV HE SAVVE THE VVHOLE worlde represented before his eies and also the soule of Germanus Bishop of Capua ascending to heauen CHAPTER XXXV AT an other tyme Seruandus the Deacon and Abbot of that monasterye which in tymes past was founded by the noble man Liberius in the countrye of Campania vsed ordinarily to come and visit the man of God and the reason why he came so often was because him selfe also was a man full of heauenly doctrine and so thy two had often together sp●rituall conference to the end that albe it they could not perfectly feede vpon the celestiall foode of heauen yet by means of such swete discourses they might at least with longing and feruent desire taste of those ●oyes and diuine delightes When it was tyme to goe to rest the venerable father Bennet reposed him selfe in the topp of a tower at the foote whereof Seruandus the Deacon was lodged so that one paier of staiers went to them bothe before the ●ower there was a certaine large roome in which bothe theire disciples did lye The man of God Bennet being diligent in watching rose early vp before the tyme of mattins his monkes being yet at rest and came to the windowe of his chamber where he offered vp his praiers to almighty God Standinge there all on a suddaine in the deade of the nighte as he looked forth he sawe a lighte which bannished away the darckenes of the nighte and glittered with suche brighenes that the lighte which did shine in the middest of darckenes was far more clere them the lighte of the daye Vpon this fighte a maruailous strange thinge followed for as him selfe did afterwarde reporte the whole worlde gathered as it were together vnder one beame of the sunne was presented before his eies and whiles the venerable father stoode attentiuely beholdinge the brightenes of that glitteringe lighte he sawe the soule of Germanies Bishop of Capita in a fierye globe to be carried vp by Angels into heauen Then desirous to haue some witnes of this so notable a miracle he called with a very loude voice Seruandus the Deacon twise or thrise by his name who troubled at such an vnvsuall cryinge out of the man of God went vp in all hast and looking for the sawe not any thinge els but a little remnant of the light but wondring at so great a miracle the man of God tolde him all in order what he had sene and sendinge by and by to the towne of Cassino he commanded the religious man Theoprobus to dispatche one that nighte to the citye of Capua to learne what was become of Germanus thiere Bishop which beinge done the messēger founde that reuerend Prelat departed this life and enquiringe curiously the tyme he vnderstoode that he died at that very instant in which the man of God behelde him ascending v● to heauen Peter A straunge thinge and verye muche to be admired But whereas you saye that the whole worlde as it were vnder one sunne beame was presented before his eies as I must nedes confesse that in my selfe I neuer had experience of any suche thinge so neither can I conceiue by what meanes the whole worlde can be sene of any one man Gregory Assure your selfe Peter of that which I speake to witt that all creatures be as it were nothinge to that soule which beholdeth the creator for thoughe it see but a glympse of that lighte which is in the creator yet verye small do all thinges seme that be created for by meanes of that supernaturall light the capacity of the inwarde soule is inlarged and is in God so extended that it is far aboue the worlde yea and the soule of him that seeth in this manner is also aboue it selfe for being rapt vp in the lighte of God it is inwardly in it selfe inlarged aboue it selfe and when it is so exalted and looketh downeward then doth it comprehend how little all that is which before in former basenes it could not comprehende The man of God therfore who sawe the fiery globe and the Angels returninge to heauen out of all doubte coulde not see these thinges but in the lighte of God what maruaile then is it yf he sawe the worlde gathered together before him who rap● vp in the light of his soule was at that tyme out of the worlde But albeit we say that the worlde was gathered together besoore his eies yet were not heauen and earth drawne into any lesser roome then they be of them selues but the soule of the beholder was more inlarged which rapt in God might without difficultye see that which is vnder God and therfore in
Then turninge back to Galla that came raginge after he saide This is father Bennet of whom I tolde you who lookinge vpō him in a great fury thinckinge to deale as terribly with him as he had with others cried out aloude to him sayinge Rise vp sirrha rise vp and deliuer me quickelye suche wealth as thowe hast of this mans in keepinge The man of God hearinge such a noise straighte-waies lifte vp his eies from readinge and behelde both him and the countrye fellowe and turninge his eies to his bandes verye straungelye they fell from his armes and that so quickelye as no man with any hast could haue vndone them Galla seeinge him so wonderfullye and quickely loosed fell straighte a trembling and prostratinge him selfe vpon the earth boowed downe his cruell and stiffe necke to the holy mans feete and with humilitye did commende him selfe to his praiers But the venerable man for all this rose not vp from his readinge but callinge for some of his monkes commanded them to haue him in and to giue him some meate And when he was broughte backe againe he gaue him a goode lesson admonishing him not to vse any more suche rigour and cruell dealinge His proude minde thus taken downe away he went but durst not demande after that any thinge of the countrye fellowe whom the man of God not with handes but only with his eies had loosed from his bandes And this is that Peter which I tolde you that those which in a more familiar sorte serue God doe sometyme by a certaine power and authority bestowed vpon them worcke miracles For he that sittinge still did appease the furye of that cruell Gothe and vnloose with his eies those knottes and cordes which did pinion the inocent mans armes did plainelye shewe by the quickenes of the miracle that he had receiued power to worcke all that which he did And nowe will I likewise tell you of an other miracle which by praier he obtayned at Gods handes HOVV BY PRAIER VENERABLE Bennet raised vp a deade childe CHAPTER XXXII BEinge vpon a daye gone out with his monkes to worke in the fielde a country man carrying the corps of his deade sonne came to the gate of the Abbey lamentinge the losse of his childe and inquiringe for holy Bennet they tolde him that he was abroad with his monkes in the fielde Downe at the gate he layd the deade bodye and with great sorrowe of soule ranne in hast to seeke out the venerable father At the same tyme the man of God was returninge home ward from worcke with his monkes whom so sone as he sawe he began to crye out giue me my sonne giue me my sonne The man of God amazed at these wordes stoode still saide what haue I taken awaye your sonne No no quoth the sorrowfull father but he is deade come for Christ Iesus sake and restore him to life The seruaunt of God hearing him speake in that manner seeinge his monkes vpon compassion to sollicit the poore mans sute with great sorrowe of minde he saide Away my goode brethren awaye Suche miracles are not for vs to worcke but for the blessed Apostles why will you lay suche a burthen vpon me as my weakenes can not beare But the poore man whom excessiue griefe enforced wolde not giue ouer his petition but swore that he wolde neuer departe excepte he did raise vp his sonne Where is he then quoth Gods seruaunte he answered that his body lay at the gate of the Abbey to which place when the man of God came with his monkes he kneeled downe and lay vpon the bodye of the little childe and rising he helde vp his handes towardes heauen and saide Beholde not o Lorde my synnes but the faithe of this man than desireth to haue his sonne raised to life and restore that soule to the body which thowe hast taken away He had scarse spoken these wordes and beholde the soule returned backe againe and there with the childes bodye began to tremble in such sort that all which were present did beholde it in straunge manner to pant and shake Then he tooke it by the hande gaue it to his father but aliue in healthe Certaine it is Peter that this miracle was not in his owne power for which prostrat vpon the grounde he praied so earnestly Peter All is most true that before you saide for what you affirmed in wordes you haue nowe verified by examples and worckes But tell me I beseche you whether holy men can do all suche thinges as they please and obtaine at Gods handes whatsoeuer they desire OF A MIRACLE VVROVGHTE by his sister Scholastica CHAPTER XXXIII Gregory VVHat man is there Peter in this worlde that is in greater fauour with God then S. Paul was who yet three tymes desired our Lord ro be deliuered from the pricke of the fleshe and obtained not his petition Concerninge which pointe also I 2. Cor. 12. must nedes tell you howe there was one thinge which the venerable father Bennet wolde haue done and yet he could not For his filter called Scholastica Yoūg children dedicated to a religious life dedicated from her infancy to our Lord vsed once a yere to come and visit her brother To whom the man of God went not far from the gate to a place that did belonge to the Abbey there to giue her intertainement And she comming thither on a tyme accordinge to her custome her venerable brother with his monkes went to meete her where they spent the whole daye in the praises of God and spirituall talke and when it was almost nighte they supped together as they were yet sitting at the ●able talkinge of deuoin matters and darcknes came on the-holy Nūne his sister entreated him to stay there all nighte that they mighte spende it in discoursinge of the ioyes of heauen But by no perswasion wolde he agree vnto that sayinge that he mighte not by any meanes tarry all nighte out of his Abbey At that tyme the skye was so clere that no cloude was to be sene The Nunne receiuinge this deniall of her brother ioyning her handes together laide them vpon the table and so bowing downe her heade vpon them she made her praiers to almighty God and liftinge her heade from the table there fell suddainlye such a tempest of lightninge and thundringe and such abundance of raine that neither venerable Bennet nor his monkes that were with him coulde put theire heade out of dore for the holy Nunne restinge her heade vpon her handes poured forth such a flod of teares vpon the table that she drewe the clere aier to a watrye skye so that after the end of her deuotions that storme of rayne followed and her prayer and the rayne did so meete together that as she lifted vp her heade from the table the thunder beganne so that in one and the verye same instant she lifted vp her head and broughte downe the rayne The man of God seeinge that he could
that lighte which appeared to his outwarde eies the inward lighte which was in his soule rauished the minde of the beholder to supernall thinges and shewed him howe small all earthly thinges were Peter I perceiue nowe that it was to my more profitt that I vnderstoode you not before seeinge by reason of my slowe capacitye you haue deliuered so notable an exposition But nowe because you haue made me througlye to vnderstand these thinges I beseeche you to continewe on your former narration HOVV HOLY BENNET VVROT a rule for his monkes CHAPTER XXXVI DEsirous I am Peter to tell you many thinges of this venerable father but some of purpose I set passe because I make hast to entreat also of the actes of other holy men yet I wolde not haue you to be ignorant but that the man of God amongest so many miracles for which he was so famous in the worlde was also sufficiently learned in diuinitye for he wrot a rule for his monkes both excellent for discretion and also eloquent for the stile Of whose life and conuersation yf any be curious to knowe further he may in the institution of that rule vnderstand al his manner of life and discipline for the holy man coulde not otherwise teache then him selfe liued HOVV VENERABLE BENNET did prophecye to his monkes the tyme of his owne deathe CHAPTER XXXVII THe same yeare in which he departed this life he tolde the daye of his holy death to his monkes some of which did liue daily with him and some dwelt far of willinge those that were present to keepe it secret and tellinge them that were absent by what token they sholde knowe that he was deade Six daies before he lefte this worlde he gaue order to haue his sepulchre opened and forthwith fallinge into an agewe he began with burninge heate to wax fainte and when as the sicknes daily increased vpon the sixt day he commanded his monkes to carry him into the oratory where he did arme him selfe with receiuinge the body and bloode of our Sauiour Christ and hauing his weake body holden vp betwixte the handes of his disciples he stoode with his owne lifte vp to heauen and as he was in that manner praying he gaue vp the Ghost Vpon which daye two monkes one being in his cell and the other far distant had concerninge him one and the selfe same vision for thy sawe all the waye from the holie mans cell towardes the east euene vp to heauene hunge and adorned with tapestry and shininge with an infinite number of lampes at the topp whereof a man reuerently attired stoode and demanded yf they knewe who passed that way to whom they answered saying that they knewe not Then he spake thus vnto them This is the waye quoth he by which the beloued seruaunt of God Bennet is ascended vp to heauen And by this means as his monkes that were present knewe of the deathe of the holy man so likewise they which were absent by the token which he foretold them had intelligence of the same thinge Buried he was in the oratory of S. Iohne Baptist which him selfe built when he ouerthrewe the altar of Apollo who also in that caue in which he first dwelled euene to his verie tyme worketh miracles yf the faithe of them that pray requireth the same HOVV A MAD VVOMAN VVAS cured in his caue CHAPTER XXXVIII FOr the thinge which I meane nowe to rehearse fel out lately A certaine woman fallinge madde lost the vse of reason so far that she walked vp and downe day and nighte in mountains and valle is in woodes and fieldes and rested only in that place where extreame wearines enforced her to staye Vpon a day it fell so out that albeit she wandred at randon yet she missed not the righte waye for she came to the caue of the blessed man Bennet and not knowinge any thing in she went reposed her self there that nighte and rising vp in the morning she departed as sound in sence well in her wittes as though she had neuer bene distracted in her whole life and so continewed alwaies after euen to her dyinge daye Peter What is the reason that in the patronage of martirs we often tymes finde that they do not afforde so great benefits by theire bodies as they do by Sainctes relickes worcke miracles other of theire reliques and doe there worke greater miracles where them selues be not present Gregory Where the holy martirs lye in theire bodies there is no doubt Peter but that they are able to worke many miracles yea and also do worke infinite to such as seek them with a pure minde But for as much as simple people Sainctes in heauen heare our praiers Praier to Sainctes mighte haue some doubte whether they be present and doe in those places heare theire praiers where theire bodies be not necessarye it is that they sholde in those places shewe greater miracles where weake soules may most doubte of theire presence But he whose minde is fixed in God hath so muche the greater merit of his faith in that he both knoweth that they rest not there in bodye and yet be there present to heare our praiers And therfore our Sauiour him selfe to increase the faithe of his disciples saide If I do not departe Ioh. 16. the comforter will not come vnto you for seeinge certaine it is that the comfortinge spirit doth alwaies procede from the father and the sonne why doth the sonne saye that he will departe that the comforter may come who neuer is absent from the sonne But because the disciples beholdinge our Lorde in flesh did alwaies desire to see him with theire corporall eies very well did he saye vnto them vnles I do go awaye the comforter will not come as thoughe he had plainly tolde them Yf I do not with drawe my bodye I can not let you vnderstande what the loue of the spiritis except you giue ouer to loue my carnall presence neuer will you learne to affect me with true spirituall loue Peter That you saye pleaseth me verye well Gregory Let vs now for a while giue ouer our discourse to the end that yf we meane to prosecute the miracles of other Sainctes we may throughe silence be the more able to performe it The ende of the second booke THE CHAPTERS OF THE THIRDE BOOKE 1. OF Paulinus Bisshoppe of the city of Nola. 2. of Pope Iohn 3. Of Pope Agapitus 4. Of Datius Bisshoppe of Millan 5. Of Sabinus Bisshoppe of Camisina 6. Of Cassius Bisshoppe of Narni 7. Of Andrewe Bisshoppe of Funda 8. Of Constantius Bisshop of Aquinunt 9. Of Frigidianus Bisshop of Luna 10. Of Sabinus Bisshop of Placentia who by his letters made the riuer of Poe to retire into his channel 11. Of Cerbonius Bisshop of Populonium 12. Of Fulgentius Bisshop of Otricoly 13. Of Herculanus Bisshop of Perusium 14. Of the seruaunt of God Isaac 15. Of the seruantes of God Euthitius and Florentius 16. Of Martius the
end of all fleshe is come which wor●es after he had repeated thus three tymes he vanisshed out of his sight Then the man of God rose vp and fell to his p●aiers with many teares And straight after those fearefull sightes in heauen followed to wit firy lances and armies appearing from the north Straight after likewise the barbarous and cruell nation of the Lombardes drawne as a sworde out of a sheath left theire owne countrye and inuaded ours by reason whereof the people which before for the huge multitude were like to thicke corne fieldes remayne nowe withered and ouerthrowne for cities be wasted townes and villages spoiled churches burnte monasteries of men and w●men destroied farmes left desolate the countrye remayneth solitarye and voide of men to till the grounde and destitute of all inhabitantes beastes possessinge those places where before great plenty of men did dwell And howe it goeth in other partes of the worlde I knowe not but here in this place where we liue the worlde doth not foretel any end but rather sheweth that which is present and already come Wherfore so much the more zealouslye ought we to seeke after eternal thinges by how much we finde all temporall so quicklye to be fled and gone Suerlye this worlde were to be contemned althoughe it did flatter vs and with pleasant prosperitye contented our minde but now seing it is fraught with so many miseries and diuers afflictions and that our sorrowes and crosses do daily encrease and be doubled what doth it els but crye vnto vs that we sholde not loue it Ma●y more thinges yet remaine of the worthy actes of Gods seruauntes but because I haue resolued vpon an other course I wil passe ouer with silence Peter For as much as I perceiue that many Christians doe doubt of the immortality of the soule after the dissolution of the bodye I beseech you for the spirituall goode of manye to sett downe some reasōs for proffe thereof or the examples of some soules which haue testified the same yf you remember any to the end that those which be troubled with any such tentations may learne that the soule doth not dy together with the bodie Gregory This is a worke of great labour especially for one that is busied with other affaires and hath other thinges to attende vnto yet yf any profit by my meanes may redound to others willingly doe I prefer that before myne owne will and pleasure and therfore Gods grace assisting me in this fourth booke followinge I will clerely shewe that the soule doth liue after the death of the body The end of the third booke THE CHAPTERS OF THE FOVRTH BOOKE 1. THat carnal men doe the lesse belieue eternal and spiritual thinges because those of which they heare they knowe not by experience 2. That an infidel liueth not without faith 3. That there were three vital spirittes created 4. Of that question of Salomon wherein it is said That the death of a man and beastes is all one 5. Of that question concerninge the soule which goeth inuisiblye out of the bodye to witt whether there be any such thinge when as it can not be seene 6. That as the life of the soule whiles it remaineth in the body is knowne by the motions of the members so the life of the soule as●er it is out of the bodye in Sainctes is gathered by the vertue of miracles 7. Of the departures of soules 8. Of the departure of the soule of a monke called Specio●us 9. Of the soule of an Anchoret 10. Of the departure of the soule of an Abbot called Hope 11. Of the departure of the soule of a Priest caled Vr●inus 12. Of the soule of Probus Bisshop of the citye of Reati 13. Of the departure of a Nunne called Galla. 14. Of the departure of Seruulus sicke of the Palsye 15. Of the departure of a Nunne called Romula 16. Of the departure of the virgin Tarsilla 17. Of the departure of a yong maide called Musa 18. How certaine yong children come not to heauen throughe the fault of theire parentes because they bring them vp wickedly as is shewed and afterward declared by the example of a blasphe●●ous yonge boye 19. Of the departure of one Steuen the seruant of God 20. That sometyme the merit of the soule is not sene at the departure but is after deathe more truly declared 21. Of the two monkes of Abbot Valentius 22. Of the departure of Abbot Soranus 23. Of the departure of the Deacon of the Churche of Marsi 24. Of the death of the man of God that was sent to Bethel 25. VVhether the soules of iust men be receiued into heauen before the resurrection of the body 26. By what meanes some that are a dying doe prophecy Of the death of a certaine Aduocat Of the reuelation of the two monkes Gerontius and Mellirus Of the death of a boy called Armentarius and of the diuersitye of tongues 27. Of the death of the Earle Theophanius 28. That as the soules of iust men be in heauen so we ought to belieue that after the death of the bodies the soules of wicked men are in hell 29. VVhat reason we haue to belieue that corporal fire can hold spirittes they being without bodyes 30. Of the death of the Arrian kinge Theodoricus 31. Of the death of Reparatus 32. Of the death of a courtier whose graue burnt with fire 33. VVhether the goode knowe the goode in heauen and the bad those that be bad in hell 34. Of a certaine religious man who at his death saw the Prophetes 35. How sometime soules ready to departe this worlde that knowe not one an other doe knowe for all that what torments for theire sinnes or like rewardes for theire goode deedes they shal receiue And of the death of Iohne Vrsus Eumorphius Steuē 36. Of those soules which throughe error seme to be carried out of theire bodies Of the vocation and reuocation of Peter the monke and of the death and resusci●ation of Steuen Of the vision of a certaine soldiar and of Deusdedit whose house was sene to be built vpon the sabboth daye and of the punnishement of the men of Sodome 37. That the soules of certaine men whiles they be yet in theire bodies do see some spiritual punnishment and of the boy Theodorus 38. Of the death of Chrisorius and of a certaine monke of Iconia 39. VVhether there be any fire of purga●orye after death 40. Of the soule of Paschasius the Deacon 41. VVhy in latter times so many thinges come to lighte concerning mens soules which before were not knowne 42. In what place we ought to beleue that hel is 43. VVhether the fire of hel be one or manye 44. VVhether they alwaies burne that lye in hell 45. How the soule is saide to be immortal if it be punnished with the sentence of death 46. Of a certaine holy man who was affraide at the tyme of his death 47. That some are by reuelation strengthned not to
it sholde be purged And here of it commeth that reprobates receiue superioritye and power ouer others who at theire death be so much the more punnished for that they vsed theire cruell authoritye against Gods seruantes as the foresaide wicked and wretched man whom God suffred not to triumphe ouer that venerable Deacon thoughe he permitted him to kill his bodye which thinge to be true we learne also out of holy scriptures For that man of God which was sent against Samaria because contrarye to 3. Reg. 19. Gods commandement he did eate in in his iorny was slayne by a lion and yet in the same place we reade that the lion stoode by the mans asse and did not touche his dead bodye By which we perceiue that his synne of disobedience was by that his death pardoned because the same lion that feared not to kill him presumed not yet to touch his dead carcasse for licence he had for the one but no leaue was graunted for the other because he that was culpable in his life hauing his synne of disobedience now punnished was iust by his death and therfore the lion that before slewe the body of a synner preserued afterward the corps of a iust man Peter Your discourse pleaseth me very well yet willing I am to knowe whether before the resurrection the soules of iust men do enter into the kingdome of heauen VVHETHER THE SOVLES OF iust men be receiued into heauen before the general resurrection of our bodies CHAPTER XXV Gregory THis thinge speaking generallye Al iust men go not straighte to heauen of all iust men can neither be affirmed nor denied for the soules of some iust men remayninge as yet in certaine mansions be differ●ed from heauen by which staye of theirs what els do we learne but that they lacked some-what of perfect iustice And yet is it more clere then daye that the soules of them that be perfect do straighte after death possesse the ioyes of heauen the truthe where of Christ him selfe assureth vs when he saith VVheresoeuer the body shal be thither will the Luc. 17. eagles be gathered together for where our Sauiour is present in bodye thither without all question doe the soules o ● iust men assemble them selues and S. Paul saith I desire to be dissolued and to ● Philip. 1. with Christ He therfore tha● doubteth not Christ to be in heauen how can he doubt that S. Paules soule is in the same place which Apostle speaketh also of the dissolution of his body and his dwelling in heauen in these wordes VVe knowe that if our terestrial house of 2 Corint 5. this habitation be dissolued that we haue a buildinge of God and house not made with handes but euerlasting in heauen Peter If iust mens soules be already in heauē what then shall they receiue for a rewarde of theire vertuous and iust life at the daye of iudgement Gregory Whereas nowe theire soules be only in heauen at the day of iudgement this further increase of ioye shall they haue that theire bodies also shall be partakers of eternall blisse and they shall in theire fleshe receiue ioye in which for Christes sake they suffred griefe and to●mentes In respect of this there douole glorye the scripture saith In theire land they shal possesse double Esay 61. thinges and it is written of the soules of the iust that before the day of resurrection To euery one of them white stoales Apocalip 6. were giuen and it was saide to them that they should rest yet a little tyme vntill the number of theire fellow-seruantes and brethren were complete They therfore that now receiue but one stoale in the daye of iudgement shall euery one haue two because nowe they reioyce only for the felicitye of theire soules but then shall they enioye the endlesse glorye of bodye and soule together Peter I graunt it to be as you saye but what I beseech you is the reason that ostentymes those which ly a dyinge do prophecye and tell of many thinges to come BY VV HAT MEANES IT FALLETH out that those which ly a dying do prophecye of thinges to come and of the death of a certaine aduocat os that also which was reuealed to the monkes Gerontius and Mellitus of the death of a boye called Armentarius and of the diuersitye of tongues CHAPTER XXVI Gregory SOmetyme the soule it selfe by reason of the spirituall nature vvhich it hath doth foresee some thing which will so fall out and sometyme soules before theire departure come to the knowledge of future thinges by reuelation sometyme also when they are straight-waies to leaue the body by heauenly inspiration they penetrate with theire spirituall eies the secrets of heauen For that the soule by reason of the spirituall nature which it hath doth knowe thinges to come certaine it is by that which happened to a certaine aduocate in this citye who died two daies agoe of a paine in his side For a little before his death he called for his boye to giue him his apparrel that he mighte rise vp and walke who supposinge him not to knowe what he saide refused to do what he willed him Where vpon herose vp put on his clothes and saide that he wolde go to the churche of S. Sixtus which is in the waye called Appia and when not longe after his sicknes increasing lie departed this life determined it was that his bod●e sholde be buried in the churche of S. Ianuarius the martir which standeth vpon the way called Prenestina But because they which had the care of his buriall thoughte i● too far of suddainlye they resolued vpon a newe course and so going forth with his corps by the waye called Appia not knowinge what he had saide they buried him in that church which before he mentioned and seing it is well knowne that he was a man giuen to the worlde and one that soughte after earthly gaine how coulde he know that which fell out but that the force and spirituall nature of his soule did foresee what shoulde become of his bodye That those also which lye a dyinge do oftentymes by diuine reuelation foretell what shall happen afterwarde we may learne by such thinges as haue fallen out amongest vs in diuers Abbeyes For ten yeares since there was a monke in my Monasterye called Gerontius who lying sore sicke sawe by vision in the nighte tyme certaine white men bewtifully apparrelled to descende from aboue into the Monasterye and standing by his beddes side one of them saide The cause of our comminge hither is to choose out certaine of Gregories monkes to sende them abroade vnto the warres and forthwith he commanded an other to write in a bill the names of Marcellus Valentinian Agnellus and diuers others whose names I haue nowe forgotten that being done he saide further Putt downe also the name of him that nowe beholdeth vs. By which vision he being assured of that which would come to passe the next morning he tolde the
theire owne whom in the presence of the clergye nobilitve and common people I examined touching that miracle and they all affirmed it to be most true sayinge that they were in a strange manner replenished with that swete smell and they added also certaine other thinges concerninge his sepulchre that made the miracle greater which not to be ouer longe I meane to passe ouer with silence Peter I perceiue nowe that my former question is sufficientlye satisfied yet an other remaineth which troubleth my minde and that is seinge you affirmed before that holy mens soules which departe this life be nowe in heauen it followeth consequentlye that the soules of the wicked be also in hell and yet ignorant I am whether it be so or no for mans ymagination can not conceiue howe the soules of synners can be torme●ted before the daye of iudgement THAT AS VVE BELEVE THE SOVles of iust and perfect men to be in heauen so we ought also to beleue that the soules of the wicked after theire departure from the body be in hell CHAPTER XXVIII Gregory YF by the testimonye of holy scripture you beleeue that the soules of holy and perfect men be in heauen by the same reason ought you also to beleeue that the soules of the wicked be in hell for as iust men do reioice and be glad at the retribution of eternal iustice so necessary it is that the wicked at the same iustice sholde be grieued and tormented● for as heauenly felicitye doth glad the elect so vve oughte to beleeue that from the daye of theire departure fire doth afflict and burne the reprobat Peter With vvhat reason can vve beleeue that corporall fire can holde and torment an incorporall thinge THE REASON VVHY VVE ought to beleeue that corporal fire can hold and torment the spirites that be without bodies CHAPTER XXIX Gregory YF a spirit vvithout a body can be holden and kept in the bodye of a liuing man vvhy like vvise after death maye not an incorporal spirit be holden and kept in corporall fire Peter The reason vvhy an incorporal spirit in euerye liuing man is kept in the bodye is because it doth quicken and giue life to the bodye Gregory Yf an incorporall spirit Peter may be kept in that to vvhich it giueth life vvhy also for punnishement may it not be kept there where it continually dieth And we saye that a spirit is holden by fire to the end that in the torment thereof it maye both by seeing and feeling be punnished for the soule by seeing of the fire is afflicted burned it is in that it seeth it selfe to be burned and so it falleth out that a corporall thinge may burne that vvhich hath no bodye whiles that an inuisible burninge and sorrowe is drawne from visible fire and the incorporall soule by meanes of corporall fire maye be tormented with a spirituall and incorporall flame although out of the Gospell we also learne that the soule is not only tormented by seeing the fire but also by the feeling thereof for the riche glutton as our Sauiour saith was buried in hell And he giueth vs to vnderstande that his soule was kept in fire in that he telleth vs how he did beseech Abraham speaking to him in this manner Send Lazarus Luc. 16. that he may dipp the topp of his finger into the water and may refrethe my tongue because I am tormented in this flame Seing then truth it selfe assureth vs that the sinfull rich man was condemned into fire what wise man can deny that the soules of the reprobat be detained in fire Peter Both reason and testimonye of scripture draweth my minde to beleue what your saye but yet when I thinke not of them it returneth againe to his former opinion for I neither see nor can perceiue how a corporall thinge can holde and torment that which is incorporall and without bodye Gregory Tell me I praye you whether do you thincke that those Angels which fell from heauen haue bodies or no Peter What man that hath his wittes vvill say that they haue any bodies Gregory And whether do you thincke that the fire of hel is corporal or spirituall Peter I make no doubt but that it is corporall seinge most certaine it is that bodies be burned therewith Gregory And as certaine it is that at the daye of iudgement our Sauiour shall saye to the reprobate Go into euerlasting Math. 25. fire which is prepared for the deuil and his angels Yf then the deuill and his angels thoughe without bodies shall be tormented with corporall fire what maruail is it that the soules after theire departure and before they be vnited againe to theire bodies may in like manner suffer corporal tormentes Peter The reason you giue is very plaine and therfor now there is not any further doubte touchinge this question that doth troublemy minde OF THE DEATH OF KINGE Theodoricus who was an Arrian heretike CHAPTER XXX Gregory SEing with such difficulty you are broughte to beleeue I thincke it worth my labour to let you vnderstad such thinges concerning this very pointe as I haue receaued from them that be of goode credit Iulian who died almost seuen yeres since had a worshipfull office in this church of Rome in which nowe by Gods prouicence I serue vsed often to visit me liuing as yet in my Monastery and to talke with me of spirituall thinges for the goode of both out soules This man vpon a daye tolde me this storye In the tyme of kinge Theodoricus quoth he my wiues father being the● in Sicilye was to returne into Italy The shipp in which he came arriued at the Ilande of Liparis where he vnderstood Solitary men and Anchoretes that there dwelt a certaine solitary man of great vertue whom he thoughte goode whiles the mariners were occupied about mendinge of theire shipp and tacklinge to visit to talke with him and to commende him selfe to his praiers and so he did in the company of others When they were come to the man of God amongest other talke which they had he asked them this question Do you quoth he heare that kinge Theodoricus is deade to whom they quickly answered God forbidd we lefte him aliue at our departure from Rome and before this present we neuer hearde of any such thinge Then the seruaunt of God told them that certainly he was deade for yesterdaye quoth he at nine of the clocke he was without shoes and girdle and his handes fast bounde broughte betwixt Iohne the Pope and Symmachus the Senator and throwne into * A rupture of the earth that casteth forth fire Vulcanes gulph which is not far from this place When they hearde this nevves carefullye they vvrot dovvne the tyme and at theire returne into Italy they vnderstood that kinge Theodoricus died vpon that verye daye in vvhich his vnhappy passage out of this worlde punnishement vvas reuealed to the seruant of God And for as much as he had by miserable
familiar and pleasing manner no griefe interposing it selfe except it be that which is to be wished of true contrition for sinne or els that which other busines bringeth by drawing vs from so sweete conuersation or lastly to see that the golden streame of so diuine a discourse runneth not still forwarde in an endlesse channell As your royal dispositiō to vertue hath iustly deserued the dedicatiō of this booke so the loue of the author himselfe blessed S. Gregory not only to our coūtry in general but to your most excellēt persō in particular perswadeth the same For if the purple gluttō buried in hell had care Luc. 16. v. 27. of his brethren and praied for thē moued thereūto of mere natural cōpassiō how much more doth his soule raigning in heauē inflamed with supernatural charity tēder the good of thē whō whiles he liued he loued so deerely Being vpon earth such was his affectiō to our natiō that by his pastorall care it was turned 1. Thessal 1. v. 9. to God from idols to serue the liuing and true God and being yet mortall he wrotte to Aldiberga Lib. 9. epist 59. cap. 69. Queene of England most kinde letters encouraging hir by the example of Saint Helena the glory of great Britayne to labour the conuersion of the kinge and his people and therfore no question but liuing now in heauen his charity to God being greater his loue towarde vs is not lesse and consequently no doubt can be made but with farre more burning zeale he doth sollicitte in that celestiall court the cause of our country and enioying him selfe immortall felicity both desireth and also laboureth the temporall and eternall happines of Queene Anne our most gratious Princes To these former reasons which especiallye gaue support to my fearefull harte this also was adioyned as no small inducement to thincke that I was the first that offered his labours to your most excellent Maiesty for whereas diuers of diuers professions haue directed theire workes to our most dread Soueraigne and one also to our younge Prince your deere sonne and the orient obiect of our countries ioye so none at all for ought that I can learne much lesse that professeth the religion os S. Gregorie hath hitherto presented any booke to your Princely person Together with this alluring motiue concurred also the very tyme it selfe of the newe yeare dedicated by longe and laudable custome descending to vs from our forefathers to the giving and receiuing of divers giftes and presents Voulsafe therefore most noble Queene gratiously to accept among so many Princely giftes this small present of Saintes liues written a thowsande yeares since by the glorious Apostle of Englande blessed Sainte Gregorie inferior no question to any for temporal value but yelding to none at all as I verily suppose in spiritual and true estimation to grace with the benigne beames of your roiall countenance these my poore labours published to the worldes viewe vnder the patronage of your gratious Highnes which your renoumed inclination to vertue and pious affection to spirituall bookes hath deserued the loue of S. Gregorie to our countrie and the Queenes of England hath allotted you my happy fortune to be the first in this kinde with the very consideration of the tyme it selfe hath iustlie consecrated to your most excellent and worthie person and to cast a fauorable eye vpon the first fruites of my syncere and seruiceable affection which is such that shoulde I mention worthily might I be suspected and yet verily hope were it knowne that it woulde neuer by Princely bountie be reiected The newe borne Sauiour of the worlde Christ Iesus send you in earthly courte both this and many happy newe yeares and eternity of yeares in the celestiall court of heauene The first of Ianuarie 1608. Your Maiesties most deuoted seruant and daily orator P. VV. TO THE COVRTEOVS AND VERTVOVS CHRISTIAN READER DESIROVS OF THAT KNOWLEDGE which bringeth pleasure and leadeth to true religion piety and deuotion THERE is no kinde of study yood Christian reader that either generally so contenteth all humors and fitteth all affections or which bringeth such honest pleasure to the soule and with so exquisite knowledge and necessary documents for the direction of a man●life furnisheth our vnderstanding or so forcibly and sweetlye inclineth our wills to the pu●suite of vertue as doth the reading of a learned and holy history Some there be that delight in the speculation of the Mathematicks others otherwise addicted principally price poetrye and the study of humanity some take no pleasure but in the secrets of philosophy and Aphorismes of Galen and others whose harts Gods grace hath more touched rapt as it were with S. Paul contemne 2 Corint 12. all earthly thinges and bestowe them selues wholy in diuinitye and the most pleasant contemplation of heauenly mysteries Yet this variety of natures and diuersity of desires is euer accompained with this vnity thar all with common cons●nt commend the reading of histories and in them finde singular recreation none almost being so simple that can for any difficulty reiect them the subiect being so easy and familiar nor any so curious thar can contemne them plenty of diuerse matrers drawing still forewarde and with wonderfull pleasure rauishing the soule of man This is that study which in prosperity delighteth in aduersity bringeth comfort when we are solitarye it is our companion when in company it ministreth matter of talke and excellent discourses This presenteth before our eyes the factes of former ages and deliuereth the sundry accidents of our time to succeding posterity This by the fall of many teacheth vs what to feare by the aduancement of others for worthy deedes what to followe This by the euents of other mens actions quickneth the witt ripeneth the iudgement so purchaseth true wisdome for the carriage of our life managing all worldly affaires This intertayneth all wits sitteth all fancies and pleaseth all persons with this exercise many weare out sundry troubles deceaue many melancholy passions and the mighty Monarch of the world Assuerus passed Esther cap. 6. ouer the tedious night which gaue no sleepe to his heauy eyes as holy scripture reporteth Ys this great commodity and pleasure be reaped by the Dccades of Titus Liuius the paralelled liues of Plutarch or the Chronicles of our owne country what treasure of true delight and what singular profitt shall an Ecclesiastical history especially intreating of the liues of holy men and Saints of Gods church bringe to a true christian harte that loueth God and preferreth the goode of his owne soule before all the vaine pleasure and transitory pelfe of this flattering false worlde For who can doubt but that so far as heauen is distant from earth the immortall soule excelleth the corruptible body so great difference there is betwixt a prophane and a sacred history that intreating of thinges belonginge to this life this hādlinge those which auaile to life euerlasting that describing the tēporall warres of
thoughe in the channell there bad bene no vvater at all and so it fell out that Godes seruaunt hauinge resti●ution made him of his one horse that all the soldiars came likewise to enjoye the vse of their owne At the same tyme one Buccellinus entred Campania vvith an army of Frenche men and dycause it was commonly saide that the Abbey in which the holy man liued had great store of monye the Frenche men very gredy of so good a booty came thither and with raginge mindes went into his oratory where he lay prostrat at his praiers seekinge and cryinge out for Libertinus an● a strange thinge it was for thoughe they came in stumbled vpon him yet colde they not see him and so deceiued throughe theire owne blindenes awaye thy departed as empty as they came At an other tyme likewise vpon busines of the monasterye at the commandement of the Abbote who succeded his master Honoratus he toke his iornye to Rauenna And for the great loue which he bare to venerable Honoratus alwaies did he beare about him in his bosome one of his stockinges Being in his waye it sel Relicke● so out that a certaine woman was carrying the corpe of her deade sōne who no soner sawe the seruaunt of God but for the loue of her childe she laide holde vpō his bridle protesting with a solemne oathe that he sholde not departe before he had raised vp her deade sōne The holy mā not acquaīted with so straūge a miracle was much affraide to heare he● make such a request and willinge to haue gott away yet seinge no means how to effect his desir greatly did he doubte what was best to be done Here it is worth the noting to consider what a conflicte he had in his soule humility and the mothers pietye striuinge togither feare to presume vpon so vnusuall a mirac●e griefe not to helpe the desola● mother at length to the greater glorye of God piety and compassion ouercam that vertuous soule which therformay trutlie be called in●incible bycause it did yelde and was conquered for a vertuous soule it had not bene yf piety and compassion had not ouercom it wherfor lightinge from his horse he fell vpon his knees lift vp his handes to heauene drewe the stockinge out of his bosome laide it vpon the brest of the dead corpes and beholde whiles he was at his praiers the soule of the childe returned in to the body which he perceiuinge toke it by the hande and deliuered it aliue to his sorrowfull mother and so went on the rest of his iorny Peter What is to be saide in this case for was it the merite of Honoratus or the praiers of Libertinus that wroughte this miracle Gregorye In the worckinge of so notable a miracle togither with the faith of the woman the vertue of both did concurr and therfor in myne opinion Libertinus had power to raise vp that deade childe because he had learned to trust more vpon the vertue of his master then his owne for when he laide his stocking vpon the childes brest no doubt but he Sainctes in heauen pray for vs. 4. reg 20. thought that his soule did obtaine that for which he did thē praye For we reade the like of Heliseus who carryinge his masters cloake and comminge to the riuer of Iordane stroke the waters once and yet diuided them not but when straighte after he saide VVhere is now the god of Helias and then stroke the riuer with the same cloake he made a waye open for him selfe to passe throughe Whereby you perceiue Peter how muche humility auaileth for the worckinge of miracles for then the merit of the master had force to do that which he desired whē he called vpon his name and when with humilitye he did submitt him selfe to his master he wroughte the same miracle which his master had done before him Peter I am well pleased with your answer but is there I praye yowe any thinge els of him yet remayninge which may serue for our edisicatiō Gregory Surely there is yf there be yet any that list to imitate so notable an exāple for I make no doubt but that the patience of so worthie a man did far excell all his signes and miracles as yowe shall nowe heare Vpon a certaine daye the Abbot who succeded Honoratus fell so pitifully out with venerable Libertinus that he strooke him with his sistes and bycause he coulde finde neuer a staff vp he toke a foote stole and with that did so strike his heade his face that they both swelled and became black and blewe Beinge thus vnreasonably beaten without giuinge any wordes he went quietly to bed The next daye he was to go forth about busines of the Abbey therfor whē mattins were ended he came to his Abbotes beds side and humbly demanded of him leaue The Abbot knowinge howe greatlye all did honor and loue him supposed that he wolde for the former iniury haue forsaken the Abbey and therfor he asked him whether he ment to goe to whom he answered Father quoth he there is a certaine matter concerninge the Abbey to be handled where I must nedes be for yesterdaye I promised to come and therfor I am determined to trauail thither Then the Abbot consideringe from the bottom of his harte his owne austeritye and hard dealinge and the humility and meeknes of Libertinus suddainlye leapt out of his bed gat holde of his feete confessed that he had sinned done wickedlye in presuminge to offer vnto so goode and worthie a man so cruell and contumelious an iniurye Libertinus on the contrarye prostrat vpon the earth fel downe at his feete attributinge all that he had suffered not to any cruelty of his but to his owne synnes and demerites And by this means the Abbot was brought to great meekenes and the humility of the scoller becam a teacher to the master Going afterwarde abroade about the foresaide busines of the Abbey many gentlemen of his acquaintance that had him in greate reuerence much maruailed and diligently enquired by what means he cam by such a swolne and blacke face to whom he answered Yesterday quoth he at eueninge for punishmēt of my sinns I mett with a foote stole and gat this blowe which ye see And thus the holy mā preseruinge both truthe in his soule and the honor of his master did neither bevvraye the faulte of his father nor yet incurred the sinne of lyinge Peter Had not so venerable a man as this Libertinus was of whom yowe haue tolde so many miracles and strange thinges in so great a conuent some that did imitat his holy life and vertues OF A CERTAINE MONCKE that was gardiner to the same Abbeye CHAPTER III. Gregory FElix called also Coruus one whō yowe knowe verye well and who not longe since was Prior of the same Abbeye tolde me diuers verie strāge thinges som of which I wil passe ouer with silence because I hasten to other
reprochefull wordes they ●ntreated him where vpon he sent them by and by this message sayinge Amende your tongues otherwise I do excommunicat you which sentence of excommunication notwithstandinge he did not then presentlye pronounce against them but only threatened yf they amended not them selues But they for all this chāged thiere conditions nothing at all both which not longe after departed this life and were buried in the churche and vvhen Solemne mass solemne masse was celebrated in the same churche and the Deacon accordinge to custome saide with lowde voice yf any there be that do not communicate let them departe the nurse which vsed to giue vnto our Lorde an Offring for the dead offringe for them behelde them at that tyme to rise out of thiere graues to depart the churche Hauing often tymes at those vvordes of the Deacon sene them leaue the churche and that they could not tarry within she remēbred what message the man of God sent them wh●les they were yet aliue For he tolde them that he did depriue them of the communion vnlesse they did amende theire tongues and conditions Then with great sorrowe the whole matter was signified to the mā of God who straight-waies with his owne handes gaue an oblation saying Go your waies and cause this to be offered Oblation for the deade vnto our Lorde for them and they shall not remayne any longer excommunicat which oblation beinge offered for them the Deacon as he vsed crying out that such as did not communicate shold departe they were not sene any more to go out of the churche whereby it was certaine that seeinge they did not departe with thē which did not communicate that they had receiued the communion of our Lorde by the handes of his seruant Peter It is very straunge that you report for howe coulde he thoughe a venerable and most holy man yet liuinge in mortall body loose those soules which stoode nowe before the inuisible iudgement of God Gregory Was he not yet Peter mortall that hearde from our Sauiour whatsoeuer Math. 16 thowe shall binde vpon earth it shall be bound also in the heauens whatsoeuer thowe shalt loose in earth shal be loosed also in the heauēs whose place of bindinge and loosinge those haue at this tyme which by faith and vertuous life possesse the place of holy gouernement and to be stowe such power vpō earthly men the creator of heauen and earth desconded from heauen to earthe and that fleshe mighte iudge of spirituall thinges God who for mans sake was made fleshe vouchesafed to bestowe vpon him for from thence our weaknes did rise vp aboue it selfe from whēce the strength of God was weakened vnder it selfe Peter For the vertue of his miracles your wordes do yelde a very goode reason OF A BOYE THAT AFTER HIS buriall was cast out of his graue CHAPTER XXIIII Gregory VPon a certayne daye a younge boye that was a monke louinge his parentes more then reason wolde went from the Abbey to thiere house not crauinge the fathers blessinge before hand and the same daye that he came home vnto them he departed this life And beinge buried his bodye the next daye after was founde cast out of the graue which they caused againe to be put in and againe the daye following they founde it as before Then in great hast they went to the man of God sell downe at his feete with many teares beseeched him that he wolde vouchsafe him that was deade of his fauour To whom the man of God with his owne handes deliuered the holy communion of our Lordes body sayinge Goe and lay with great The Sacrament was not buried with him but only laid vpon his brest and taken of againe reuerence this our Lordes body vpon his breast and so burye him which when they had done the deade corps after that remayned quietly in the graue By which you perceiue Peter of what merit he was with our Lorde Iesus Christ seeinge the earth wolde not giue entertainement to his bodye who departed this worlde out of Bennets fauour Peter I perceiue it very well and do wonderfully admire it HOVV A MONKE FORESAKING the Abbey mett with a dragon in the way CHAPTER XXV Gregory A Certaine monke there was so inconstant and fickle of mynde that he wolde needes giue ouer the Abbey for which fault of his the man of God d●d daily rebuke him and often tymes giue him goode admonitions but yet for all this by no means wolde he tary amongest them and therfore continuall sute he made that he mighte be discharged The venerable man vpon a tyme wearied with his importunitye in anger bad him departe who was no soner out of the Abbey gate but he founde a dragon in the waye expecting him with open mouth which being about to deuoure him he began in great feare and tremblinge to cry out aloude sayinge Helpe helpe for this dragon will eate me vp At which noise the monkes running out dragon they sawe non but finding him there shaking trēbling they broughte him backe againe to the Abbey who forth with promised that he wolde neuer more forsake the monasterye and so euer after he continued in his profession for by the praiers of the holy man he sawe the dragon comminge against him whom before when he savve not he did willingly followe HOVV HOLY BENNET CVRED a boye of the leprosy CHAPTER XXVI BVt I must not here passe ouer with silence that which I had by relation of the honourable man Anthonye who saide that his fathers boye was so pitifully punnished with a leprosy that all his heare fell of his body swelled and filthy corruption did openly come forthe Who beinge sent by his father to the man of God he was by him quickly restored to his former healthe HOVV BENNET FOVND MONEY miraculously to relieue a poore man CHAPTER XXVIII NEither is that to be ommitted which one of his disciples called Peregrinus vsed to tell for he saide that vpon a certaine daye an honest man who was in debt founde no other meanes to helpe him selfe but thought it his best waye to acquaint the man of God with his necessitye wherevpon he came to the Abbey and findinge the seruant of almighty God gaue him to vnderstande howe he was troubled by his creditor fortwelue shillinges which he did owe him To whom the venerable man saide that him selfe had not so muche money yet giuinge him comfortable wordes he saide Go your wayes and after two dayes come to me againe for I can not presētly helpe you in which two daies after his manner he bestowed him selfe in praier when vpon the thirde daye the poore man came backe there were founde suddainly vpon the chest of the Abbey which was full of corne thirtene shillinges which the man of God caused to be giuen to him that required but twelue both to discharge his debte and also to defraye his owne charges But nowe will I returne to speake of such
bringe the potage which they had prouided and goinge with his monkes into the gardin he founde there so many men workinge as he had commanded them to lay spades for it fell so out that certaine thieues were entred in to spoile and robb it but God chaunginge theire mindes they tooke the spades which they founde there and so wrought from the tyme of theire first entrance vntil the man of God came vnto them and all such partes of the grounde as before were not manured they had digged vpp and made readie When the man of God was com he saluted them in this wise God saue you goode brethren you haue laboured longe wherfore now rest your selues then he caused such prouision as he had broughte to be sett before them so after theire labour and paines refreshed them When they had eaten that was sufficient he spake thus vnto them Doe not hereafter any more harme but when you desire any thinge that is in the gardin come to the gate quietlye aske it and take it a Gods blessinge but steale no more and so bestowing vpon them good store of wortes he sent them awaye And by this meanes it fell out that they which came into the gardin to doe harme departed thence not doing any damage at all and besides had the rewarde of theire paines and somewhat also of charitye bestowed vpon them At an other tyme there came vnto him certaine straunge men a begginge so torne and tattred that they had scant any ragges to couer them humbly beseechinge him to helpe them with some cloathes The man of God hearinge theire demande gaue them no answere but secretly callinge for one of his monkes bad him goe into suche a woode and in such a place of the woode to seeke for an hollow tree and to bringe vnto him that apparrel which he founde there The monke went his way and broughte closely to his master that which he had founde Then the man of God called for those poore naked men and gaue them that apparrell saying Put on these cloathes to couer your naked bodies withall They seeing theire owne garmentes were wonderfully confounded for thincking by cunning to haue gotten other mens apparrell with shame they receiued only theire owne Againe at another tyme one there was that commended him selfe to his prayers and sent him by his seruaunt two basketes full of meate one of the which as he was in his iornye he tooke away and hidd in a bushe till his returne backe againe and the other he presented to the man of God telling him how his master had sent him that hartily commendinge him selfe to his praiers The holy mā tooke that which was sent verie kindelye giuing the messenger this goode lesson I pray the my freinde to thancke they master and take heede howe thowe doest lay hande vpon the basket for a snake is crept in therfore be carefull least otherwise it doth stinge the. At these wordes the messenger was pitifullye confounded and though glad he was that by this means he escaped death yet some what grieued that he was put to that shame Comminge backe to the basket very diligent carefull he was in touching it● for as the man of God had told him a snake in verie dede was gott in This holy man therfore albeit he were incōparably adorned with the vertue of abstinence contempt of worldly welthe the spirit of prophecye and perseuerance in praier yet one thing there was in him which seemed reprehensible to witt that some tyme he wolde so exceede in mirthe that yf men had not knowne him to haue bene so full of vertue none wolde euer haue thought it Peter What I beseche you shall we say to that for did he willingly giue him selfe sometyme to such recreation or els excelling in vertue was he contrary to his owne minde drawne sometyme to present mirthe Gregory Gods prouidence Peter in bestowinge of his giftes is wonderful for often it falleth out that vpon whom he vouchsafeth the greater he giueth not the lesse to the end that alwaies they may haue somewhat to mislike in them selues so that desiringe to arriue vnto perfection and yet can not and labour inge about that which they haue not obtayned and can not preuaile by this meanes they become not proud of those giftes which they haue receiued but doe thereby learne that they haue not those greater graces of them selues who of them selues can not ouercome small faultes And this was the cause that when God had broughte his people into the lande of promise and destroied all theire mightye potent enemies yet did he longe tyme after reserue the Philisteans and Chananites that as it is written he mighte Iudie 3. in them trye Israel For sometyme as hath bene saide vpon whom he bestoweth great giftes he leaueth some small thinges that be blameworthy that alwaies they may haue somewhat to fighte against and not to be proude thoughe theire great enemies be vanquished seeing other aduersaries in very small thinges do putt them to great trouble therfore it falleth out strangelye that one and the selfe same man is excellent for vertue and yet of infirmitye sometyme do the offende so that he may beholde him selfe on the one side stronge and well furnished and on an other open and not defended that by the goode thinge which he seeketh for and is not able to procure he may with humility preserue that vertue which alreadye he hath in possession But what wonder is it that we speake this concerning man when as heauen it selfe lost some of his citizens and other some conteynewed sounde in Gods grace that the electe Angels of God seeinge others throughe pride to fall from heauen mighte stande so muche the more stedfast by howe much with humilitye they preserued Gods grace receiued They therfore tooke profitt by that losse which heauen then had and were thereby made to perseuere more constantly in Gods seruice for all eternitie In like manner it fareth with each mans soule which sometyme for preseruinge of humilitye by a little losse it attaineth to great spirituall perfection Peter I am verye well pleased with that you saye OF THE SERVANTES OF God Euthicius and Florentius CHAPTER XV. Gregory NEither will passe ouer that with silence which I hearde from the mouthe of that reuerent Priest Sanctulus one of the same countrye and of whose report I am sure you make no doubte for you knowe very well his life and fidelitye At the same tyme in the prouince of Nursia there dwelt two men obseruinge the life and habit of holy Distinct habit of monkes conuersation the one was called Euthicius the other Florentius of which Euthicius bestowed his tyme in spirituall zeale and feruor of vertue and laboured muche by his exhortations to gayne soules to God but Florentius lead his life in simplicitye deuotion Not far from the place where they remayned there was an Abbey the gouernor whereof was dead therfore
because theire hartes could not endure to beholde any such misery The olde man yelded to theire request and so caried away the boy home to his owne monastery where he remayned longe tyme safe and sound the deuill not presuminge to touche him Wherevpon the olde man seeinge him to continew so wel was immoderatly glad thereof therfore in the presence of the monkes he spake thus The deuill did dally with those sisters but nowe he hathe to doe with the seruauntes of God he dare not come nere this boye He had scarse vttered these wordes when as in that verye instant the poore childe was in the presence of them all possessed an● pitifully tormented which the olde man beholdinge straighte-waies lamented and fell a weepinge and perseueringe so a longe tyme the monkes came to comfort him but he answered them sayinge Beleue me quoth he none of you shall this daye eate any breade vnlesse this boye be dispossessed Then with the rest of the brethren he fell prostrat to his praiers and there they continewed so longe vntill the boye was deliuered from his former tormentes and besides so perfectly cured that the wicked spirit neuer after presumed to molest him any more Peter I verily suppose that he synned a little in vaine glorye and that Gods pleasure was that the other monkes shoulde cooperate to the dispossessinge of the deuill Gregory It is euen so as you saye for seing he could not alone beare the burthen of that miracle it was deuided amongest the rest of his brethren Of what force and efficacye this mans praiers were I haue founde by experience in my selfe for being vpon a tyme when I liued in the Abbey so sicke that I oftē sounded and was by meanes thereof with often panges continually at deathes dore and in such case that vnlesse I did continually eate some thinge my vitall spirit was goinge awaye Easter daye was at hande and therfore when I sawe that vpon so sacred a vigill I coulde not refraine from often eating Prescript daies of fasting in which not only olde persones but euene children vse to fast I was more afflicted with griefe then grieued with myne infirmitye yet at length my sorrowfull soule quickly founde out a deuise and that was to carrye the man of God secretly into the oratorye and there to intreat him that he wold by his praier obtain● for me of God so muche strength and abilitye as to fast that day which fell out accordinglye for so sone as we came into the oratorye with humilitye and teares he fell to his praiers and after a while hauinge made an ende he came forthe and vpon the wordes of his blessed praiers my stomacke grewe so stronge that I did not so much as thincke of any meate nor feele any griefe at all Then I began to mar●aile at my selfe and to thincke in wha● case I was before and how I felt my selfe nowe and when I thoughte vpon my former sickenes I founde none of those panges with which before I was trobled and when my minde was busied about the affaires of the Abbey my sycknes was quite out of my memory yea as I saide yf I did th●ncke thereof yet feelinge myselfe so well and stronge I began to doubte whether I had eaten or no. When euening was come I founde my selfe so lustye that I coulde very well haue fasted vntill the next daye And by this means hauinge experience of his praiers in my selfe I made no doubt but those thinges also were true which in other places he did thoughe my selfe was not then present Peter Seinge you tolde me that he was a man of great compunction desirous I am to be better informed touchinge the efficacye of compunction and teares and therefore I praye you let me vnderstande howe manye kindes of compunction there be OF THE DIVERS KINDES of compunction CHAPTER XXXIIII Gregory COmpunction is deuided into many kinde● to witt when euery synne is of penitent men in particular bewaile● whereof the prophet Ieremye in the person of penitent synners speaketh thus Myne eye hath Thren 3. brought forth di●isions of waters But speaking more properlye there be especiallie two kindes of compunction for the soule that thirsteth after God is first sorrowfull in harte for feare and afterwarde vpon loue For first it is grieued and weepeth because callinge to minde former synnes committed it feareth to endure for punnishment of them euerlastinge ●ormentes but when longe anxiety and sorrowe hath bannished awaye that feare then a certaine securitye of the hope of pardon doth followe and so the soule is inflamed with the ●oue of heauenly delightes and whereas before it did weepe for feare of eternall payne afterward it powreth out teares that it is kept from euerlastinge ioyes For the soule doth then con●emplat those glitteringe quires of Angels that heauenly companye of those blessed spirites that great maiesty of the eternall beholdinge the face of God and doth lament so muche more now because it wanteth that euerlasting felicitye then it wept before at the feare of eternall punnishement Which thinge in scripture is mystically sett downe in an holy and true historye for there we reade howe Axa the daughter of Caleb riding vpon an asse did sighe when her father demāded what the matter was she ansvvered him thus Giue me your blessinge a southern Iosue 15. and dry lande you ha●e giuen me ioyne also a wattery and he gaue her a watterie grounde aboue and beneath For Axa then rideth vpon the asse when our soule doth subdue and gouerne the sensuall motions of the fleshe which sighinge doth craue wett grounde of her father when it doth with contrition and sorrowe of harte desire of our creator the grace of teares weeping For some there be vpon whom God hath bestowed such a gifte that they will speake freely in defence of iustice helpe them that be oppressed giue almes to the poore and be zealous in religion but yet haue they not obtained the grace of teares these be they that haue groūde towardes the South and that which is drye but yet do they want that which is moist and wett because albeit they be diligent and feruent in goode worckes yet requisit it is that they sholde also either for feare of hell or the loue of heauen bewaile the sinnes of theire life past But because as I saide there be two kindes of compunction therfore her father gaue her that which was wettaboue and also wett beneathe for our soule doth then receiue that which is wett aboue when it is grieued and doth weepe for the desire of heauen and it doth then possesse that which is ●●ett beneath when it is affraide and poureth forth teares for the fea●e of hell fire and albeit that which is ●●ett beneathe is bestowed vpon our s●ule before that which is weet aboue yet because the compunction of loue is the more excellent conuenient it was that the grounde which was wett aboue sh●ulde be first named
be affraide when they dye and of the monkes called Anthony Merulus and Iohne 48. VVhether we oughte to obserue dreames and how many sortes of dreames there be 49. Os a certaine man who in his dreame had longe life promised and yet died shortly after 50. VVhether the soules receiue any commoditye by the buriall of theire bodies in the church 51. Of a certaine Nunne that was buried in the church of S. Laurence which appeared half burnt 52. Os the burial of the noble man Valerianus 53. Of the body of Valentinus which was throwne out of the churche after it was buried 54. Of the body of a dier buried in the churche which afterwarde could not be founde 55. VVhat thinge that is which after death hath force to helppe mens soules and of a Priest of Centumcellis who was by the soule of a certaine man desired that he mighte after his death be holpen by the holy sacrifice And of the soule of a monke called Iustus 56. Of the lise and death of Bisshoppe Cassius 57. Of one that was taken by his enemies whose irons at the tyme of the sacrifice were loosed and of the mariner called Caraca saued by the sacred host from being drowned in the sea 58. Of the vertue and mystery of the healthful sacrifice 59. How we oughte to procure contrition of harte at the tyme of the holy mysteries and of the custodye of our soule after we haue bene sorrowfull sor our sinnes 60. How we oughte to forgiue the sinnes of others that we may obtayne forgiuenes of our owne THE FOVRTH BOOKE OF S. GREGORIES DIALOGVES HOVV CARNAL MEN GIVE the lesse credit to those thinges which be eternal and spiritual because they know not by experience what they heare others to speake of CHAPTER I. AFTER that the first parēt of mankinde was for his synne bannished from the ioyes of Paradise he fell into the miserye of this ignorance and bannishment which to this yerie daye we doe all indure for his synne was the cause that he coulde not any longer see those ioyes of heauen which before by contemplation he possessed for during the tyme of his residence in Paradise he vsually hearde God talking with him and by purity of harte and heauenly vision was present with the quires of the blessed Angels But after his fall he lost that lighte of soule which before abundantly he enioyed From whom we beeing by carnall propagation deriued that liue now in this darcke ignorance of bannishmēt do heare indede of an heauenly countrye and howe it is inhabited by the Angels of God and that the soules of iust and perfect men do there keepe them companye But yet such as be carnall because they can not by experience knowe those inuisible creatures doubt whether there be any such seing with theire corporall eies they can not behold them from which doubt our first Parent was altogether free for althoughe he was exiled from the ioyes of Paradise yet did he still kepe in memorye what he had lost because he had before behelde the same but these men can not by any meanes call to minde such thinges as they heare others speake of because they neuer had of them any former experiēce as our first father Adam had For it is in this case as yf a woman bigge with childe sholde be putt in prison and be there deliuered of a sonne which neuer went forth but were there continually broughte vp for yf his mother sholde tell him of the sunne mone starres mountaines and speake of the fieldes the flying of birdes and running of horses her childe that had continually bene broughte vp in the prison and acquainted with nothing els but blacke darckenes might well heare what she saide but with a doubt whether it were true or no because experience taught him not any such thinge Euene so men that are borne in this darcke worlde the place of theire bannishmēt do heare that there be wonderfull strange and inuisible thinges but because they are not acquainted with any els but terrestriall creatures which only be visible they doubt whether there be any such inuisible thinges as are reported of or no for which cause the creator him selfe of all thinges both visible and inuisible and the only begotten sonne of the eternall father came into this worlde for the redemption of mankinde and sent the holy Ghost vnto our hartes that quickened by him and his grace we shoulde belieue those thinges which as yet by sence or experience we can not possibly vnderstande and therfore so many of vs as haue receiued this spirit the heauenly pledge of our inheritance make no doubte of Gods inuisible and immortall creatures and who so euer as yet is not setled in this beliefe out of all question he oughte of reason to giue credit to the wordes of them that be more learned and holy and belieue them that throughe the grace of Gods holy spirit haue experience of those thinges that be inuisible for he were a very foolishe childe that thoughte his mother lied when she spake of lighte in other places because him selfe where he was beheld nothing els but the darckenes of the prison Peter That you say doth wonderfully content me yet he who beleueth not that there be any inuisible thinges out of question in myne opinion is an infidell and he that is an infidell in that thinge whereof he doubteth seeketh not for faith but for reason THAT AN INFIDEL LIVETH not without faith CHAPTER II. Gregory I Speake boldlye yet trulye that an infidell liueth not without faith for yf I demaunde of him who is his father or mother straight-waies he will tell me such a man and such a woman and yf I presse him further whether he doth remember the tyme when he was first conceiued or the houre when he was borne into this worlde he wil answer me that he neuer knewe or sawe any such thinge and yet for all this doth he beleue that which he neuer behelde seing he beleueth without all doubt that such a man was his father and such a woman his mother Peter I must nedes confesse that I neuer knewe before this tyme that an infidell had any faith Gregory Infidels haue faith but not in God sor then they were not infidels but worthly are they by the former reason to be blamed and thereby also to be prouoked to imbrace true faith for yf concerning theire visible bodye they beleeue that which they neuer sawe why do they not also beleeue some thinges which with theire corporall eyes they can not beholde THAT GOD CREATED THREE kindes of spirites with life CHAPTER III. FOr that our soule doth liue after the death of the bodye reason doth teach vs assisted and holpen with faith for almightye God created three kindes of spirites hauing life One altogether spirituall without bodye an other with a bodye but yet which dieth not with the bodye the thirde that which is both ioyned with the body and also together with the body
that the soule doth also liue after it is departed from the body THAT AS THE LIFE OF THE soule remaining in the bodye is gathered by the motion of the members so the life of the soule after death in holy men is to be found out by the vertue of miracles CHAPTER VI. Gregory HErein most readye I am to satisfye your request and for proffe of this pointe no difficultye do I finde for thincke you that the holy Apostles and martirs of Christ wolde haue contemned this present life and offered theire bodies to death had they not knowne that theire soules did most assuredly liue for euer You confesse that you knovve the life of the soule remayninge in the body by the motion thereof beholde then howe these that lost theire liues for Christ and beleeued that soules liued after death be renoumed for theire daily miracles For sicke persons come vnto Pilgrinage to Sainctes bodies theire deade bodies and be curied periured persons repaire thither and be possessed with deuiles possessed with deuiles visit them and are deliuered Lepers come and be clensed deade folke are broughte and they be raised vp againe Consider then in what sort theire soules do liue in those places where they liue whose deade bodies liue also in this worlde by so many miracles yf then you gather the life of Miracles wroughe by relickes the soule remayninge in the body by the motion of the members why do you not likewise by the deade bones which work miracles inferre that the soule doth liue after the death of the body Peter No solution as I thincke can ouerthrowe the force of this reason alleaged by which we are constrained through visible thinges to beleeue those which we see not and be inuisible OF THE DEPARTVRE OF menes soules CHAPTER VII Gregory A Little before you complained for that you coulde not see the soule of one when it departed out of his bodye but that was your fault who desired with corporall eies to beholde an inuisible thinge for many of vs that by sincere faith and plentifull praier haue had the eye of our soule purified haue often seene soules going out of theire bodies and therfore nowe I thincke it necessarye to sett downe both howe and in what sort menes soules departing out of theire bodies haue bene seene and also what wonderfull thinges haue bene reuealed vnto them at the tyme of theire departure that by this meanes examples may satisfye our wauering and doubtfull mindes which reason can not so full ye perswade Wherfore to begin I remember that in the second booke of this worcke I tolde you howe venerable Bennet as by relation of his owne monkes I learned beeing far distant from the city of Capua behelde the soule of Germanus Bishop of the same place at midnighte to be carried to heauen in a fiery globe who seeing the soule as it was ascending vppe behelde also in the largenes of his owne soule within the compasse of one sunne beame the whole world as it were gathered together OF THE DEPARTVRE OF the soule of Speciosus a monke CHAPTER VIII BY the relation also of the same monkes his disciples I vnderstoode howe two noble men that were brethren and very well learned in humanity the one called Speciosus the other Gregory entred into religion there to liue vertuously vnder the direction of his rule whom the venerable father placed in a Monastery of his harde by the city of Teracina These men whiles they remained in the worlde were verye riche but for the redemption of theire owne soules they Voluntarye pouertye had giuene all to the poore and ledd theire life in the same Monasterye One of these twaine to witt Speciosus being sent vpon busines of the Monasterye to the Capua his naturall brother Gregory in the meane tyme sitting at table at dinner amongest the other monkes rapt in spirit behelde his brothers soule thoughe so far distant departing out of his bodye which forthwith he tolde vnto the other monkes and straighte after in all hast tooke his iornye to Capua wher he founde his brother newlye buried and there vnderstoode how he died at that very houre in which he sawe his soule going out of his bodye OF THE SOVLE OF A certaine Anchoret CHAPTER IX A Certaine religious man and one of great credit at such tyme as I liued in the Monastery tolde me that certaine sailing from Sicilye to Rome as they were in the the middest of the sea behelde the soule of a certaine seruant of God caried to heauen who had bene an Anchoret in the Iland of Samnium Landing afterward in the same place Anchoretes and making enquiry of that thinge they vnderstoode that holy man to haue departed this life vpon that very day in which they saw his soule ascending to heauen OF THE DEPARTVRE OF Abbot Hopes soule CHAPTER X. VVHiles I liued as yet in my Monasterye I vnderstode by the relation of a verye reuerent man a certaine thinge which I will now tell you A venerable father there was called Hope who had built an Abbey in a place called Cample distant almost six miles from the old o●tye of Nursia This man almightye and mercifull God by temporall affliction preserued from euerlasting miserye and gaue him great grace and quiet of mynde for how deerely he loued him yea at that very tyme when he sent him affliction was afterwarde made apparant to the worlde when he vouchsafed perfectly to restore him to his former health This man therfore was for the space of fourty yeres punnished with such a continuall blindenes of his eies that he coulde not so much as beholde any lighte at all But because none in aduersitye can without the helpe of Goddes grace stande and vnlesse the same mercifull father who sendeth punnishement giueth also patience straighte-waies his chastising of our synnes doth by impatience more increase them and so it pitifully falleth out that our synne is by that very thinge made greater by which an end of all synne mighte very well haue bene expected God therfor seeing our infirmitye together with affliction by his swete prouidence keepeth and preserueth vs and is in his correction which he sendeth his chosen children in this worlde so iust with mercy that they maye become such to whom afterwarde he may iustly shewe mercie and therfore thoughe he did laye his crosse of blindenes vpon this venerable man yet did he not leaue him destitute of inwarde lighte for as his bodye was weried with paine so by the prouidence of Gods holy spirit his soule was refreshed with heauenly comfort At length when he had continewed fourty years in this kinde of blindenes our good Lorde restored him to his former sighte giuinge him also to vnderstande that he was shortly to leaue this worlde and therfore admonished him to preache the worde of lyfe vnto all such Abbeies as were about him and that for as much as him selfe had receiued the light of his body he wold goe and
open vnto them the spirituall lighte of the soule who forthwith obeying Gods commandement visited the foresaide Albeies and preached vnto them such preceptes of goode life as him selfe before had in conuersation practised Returning after fiftene daies to his owne Abbeye he called his monkes together and in theire presence receiued the Sacrament of the body and bloude of our Lorde and straighte-waies began together with them the mysticall hymnes of the Psalmes afterwarde falling with attention to his praiers whiles they continued on theire singing he gaue vp the ghost at which very tyme all the monkes sawe a doue comminge out of his mouth which in theire sighte flying forth throughe the topp of the oratory being then opened ascended vp into heauen And surely it is to be thoughte that his soule by diuine prouidence did in that manner appeare in the likenes of a doue that almighty God mighte thereby shewe with what a true and simple heart that holy man had alwaies serued him OF THE DEPARTVRE OF a Priestes soule called Vrsinus CHAPTER XI NEither must I forget that which the reuerent Abbot Steuen who not long since died in this city and whom you kne we very well tolde me to haue happened in the same Prouince of Nursia For he saide that a Priest dwelled in that countrye who in the feare of God gouerned the Church committed to his charge and althoughe after he had taken orders he did still loue his old wife as his enemy and neuer wolde he permit her to come neare him vpon any occasion Priestes after holy orders bounde to abstayne from the carnal company of theire former wiues abstayning wholy from all intercourse of familiarity For this is a thinge proper to holy men often tymes to depriue them selues of those thinges which be lawful to the end they may remaine the more free from such as be vnlawfull and therfore this man not to fal into any synne vtterly refused al necessary and requisit seruice at her handes When this reuerent man had long liued in this worlde the fourtith yeare after he was made Priest by a great and vehement agewe was broughte to the last cast his olde wife beholding him so far spent and to ly as thoughe he had bene deade putt her heade neare vnto him to see whether he did breath or no which he perceiuing hauing yet a little life lefte enforced him selfe to speake as well as he coulde and in greatferuor of spirit brake out into these wordes Gett the awaye woman a little fire is yet lefte away with the strawe after she was gone his strength some-what increasing he began with greatioy to cry out welcome my Lordes welcome my Lordes why ha●e you vouchsafed to visit me your vnworthy seruant I come I come I thancke you I thancke you and when he did often repeate these and the like wordes his friendes that were present asked him to whom hespake to whom with a kinde of admiration he answered what do you not here beholde the holy Apostles Do you not see the chiefe of them S. Peter and S. Paul and so turning him selfe againe towardes them he saide Beholde I come beholde I come and in speaking those wordes he gaue vp his happy ghost And that he did indede verily beholde the holy Apostles he testified by that his departure with them And thus it doth often fall out by the sweete prouidence of God that goode men at theire death do beholde his Sainctes going before them and leading as it were the waye to the end they sholde not be affraide at the panges thereof and that whiles theire soules do see the Sainctes in heauen they maye be discharged from the prison of this bodye without all feare and griefe OF THE SOVLE OF PROBVS Bisshop of the city of Reati CHAPTER XII COncerning which thing I must also tel you that which the seruāt of God Probus who now in this city liueth in an Abbey gaue me to vnderstande of an vncle of his called also Probus who was Bishop of the citye of Reati For he saide that being grieuously sick in great extremity of death his father whose name was Maximus caused many Phisitions to be sent for to see whether by theire skill he could any waies be holpen who all vpon the feeling of his pulse gaue sentence of speedy death When dinner tyme was come and the day some what far spent the venerable Bishop more carefull of theire health then of his owne desired them that they woulde goe vp with his old father into the higher part of his pallace and after theire great paynes to refresh them selues with a poore dinner Wherevpon all went vp and none remayned with him but a little yonge boy who as Probus saith is yet liuing The little boye standing by his beddes side suddainly sawe certaine men comming into the man of God apparrelled in white stoales whose faces were far more bewtifull and brighte then the whitenes of theire garmentes whereat being amazed and affraide he began to crye out and aske who they were at which noise the Bishop also loking vp behelde them comming in and knewe them and therevpon comforted the little boye bidding him not to crye or be affraide saying that they were the holy martirs S. Iuuenall and S. Eleutherius that came to visit him but he not acquainted with any such strange visions ran out at the dores as fast as he coulde carying newes hereof both to his father the phisitions who going downe in all hast found the Bishop departed for those Sainctes whose sighte the childe coulde not endure had carried his soule away in theire company OF THE DEATH OF A Nunne called Galla. CHAPTER XIII NEither will I conceale that which I receiued by the relation of those that are graue and of goode credit In the tyme of the Gothes an honorable yonge maide called Galla daughter to Simmachus the Consull was bestowed in marriag whose husbande before the yere came about departed this life and thoughe both plentye of wealth and her yonge yeres were great allurementes to a seconde marriag yet she made choise rather to be married spiritually to God in which after mourninge euerlasting ioy doth followe then to become againe subiect to carnall matrirnonye which alwaies begineth with ioye and in conclusion endeth with sorrowe But because she had a passing highe colour the Phisitions tolde her that vnlesse Nunnes maye not marrye she did marrye againe that she wolde throughe abundance of heate contrary to nature haue a bearde like vnto men which afterwarde fell so out indede but the holy woman little regarded outwarde deformitye which in wardly in her soule was inamored with the bewtye of the heauenly spouse and feared not yf that in her became foule which she knewe that her caelestial spouse did nothing loue Wherfore straight vpon the death of her husbande casting of her secular Nunnes weare no secular habit● habit and attire she rendred her selfe for the seruice of God to that Nunnery
which is by the church of the blessed Apostle S. Peter where she liued for the space of many yeares in praier and simplicitye of harte and bestowed almes plentifullye vpon needy and poore people At lengthe when almightye God determined to bestowe vpon her an euerlasting rewarde he sent her a canker in one of her brestes Two candles she had vsually in the nighte tyme burninge before her bed for louing lighte she did not only hate spirituall darckenes but also corporall One nighte lying sore afflicted with this her in firmitye she sawe S. Peter standing before her bed betwixt the two candlestickes and being nothing affraide but glad loue giuing her courage thus she ●pake vnto him How is it my Lorde what are my sinnes forgiuen me to whom as he hath a most gratious countenāce he bowed downe a little his heade and saide Thy sinnes are forgiuen the come and sollowe me but because there was an other Nunne in the Monasterye which Galla loued more then the rest she straight-waies beseeched him that sister Benedicta might goe with her to whom he answered that she could not then come but an other sholde and as for her quoth he whom you now request thirtye daies hence shall she follow you and when he had thus saide he vanished out of her sighte After whose departure she straighte-wayes called for the mother of the Conuent and tolde her what she had sene and hearde and the thirde daye following both she and the other before mentioned departed this life and she also whose company Galla desired the thirtith daye after d●d follow them The memory of which thinge continueth still fresh in that Monasterye so that the Nunnes which novve liue there receiuing it by tradition from theire predecessors can tell euerye little pointe thereof as thoughe they had bene present at that tyme when the miracle happened OF THE DEPARTVRE OF A poore man sicke of the palsey called Seruulus CHAPTER XIIII HEre also we haue to knowe that often tymes at the death of Gods seruauntes heauenly musicke is hearde to the end that whiles they giue willing eare to that melodye the soule may haue no leysure to feele when it departeth from the bodye For I remember that in my Homelies Homelia 15. vpon the Gospell I tolde howe in that porche which is in the waye to S. Clements Churche there laye a certaine man called Seruulus whom I doubt not but you also do remember who as he was poore in welth so riche in merites This man had longe Mer●● tyme bene a●●cted with sickenes for from the first tyme that I knew him to the very last hour o● his 〈◊〉 neuer can I remember but that he was sicke of the palsey and that so pitifully that he could not stande nor sitt vp i● his bedd neither was he euer able to putt his hande vnto his mouth or to turne from one side to the other His mother and brethren did serue and attende him and what he gott in almes that by theire handes he bestowed vpon other poore people Reade he coulde not yet did he buye the holy scriptures which verye carefull ye he caused such religious men as he entertained to read vnto him by meanes whereof according to his capacitie thoughe as I saide he knewe not a letter of the booke yet did he fullye learne the holy scripture Very carefull he was in his sicknes alwaies to giue God thanckes and day and nighte to praise his holy name When the tyme was come in which God determined to rewarde this his great patience the paine of his bodye strooke inwardlye to his harte which he feeling and knowing that his last houre was not far of called for all such strangers as lodged in his house desiring them to sing hymnes with him for his last far well and departure out of this life and as he was him selfe singing with them all on a suddaine he cried out a loude and bad them be silent sayinge do ye not heare the great and wonderfull musicke which is in heauen and so whiles he lay giuing of care within him selfe to that diuine harmonye his holy soule departed this mortall life at which tyme all that were there present felt a most pleasaunt and fragrant smell whereby they perceiued howe true it was that Seruulus saide A monke of myne who yet liueth was then present and with many teares vseth to tel vs that the sweetnes of that smell neuer went awaye but that they felt it continually vntill the tyme of his buriall OF THE DEPARTVRE OF a Nunne called Romula CHAPTER XV. IN the same Homilyes I remember likewise howe I tolde a certayne thinge which Speciosus my fellowe Priest doth also verify to be most true At such tyme as I entred into religion there dwelt in this city neare to the church of our blessed Lady a certaine old woman called Redempta liuinge in the habit of a Nunne Habit of Nunne a disciple of that Hirundina which was famous for vertue and lead an eremiticall life as they saye in the mouutaines Eremites and oremitical life by the city of Preneste This foresaide Redempta had two scollers which ware the same habit that she did the one called Romula and the name of the other vvhich yet liueth I can nortel thoughe by sighte I knovve her very vvell These three together in one little house liued a poore life yet riche for pietye and vertue and of these tvvaine Romula far excelled the other in meritt of life for she vvas a vvoman of maruailous patience passing obedient a great obseruer of silence and one that vvith greate zeale bestovved her tyme in continuall praier But because it often falleth out that they vvhom the vvorlde thincke to be perfect haue yet in the eies of almighty God some imperfection as many tymes vnskillfull men do commende seales of armes as excellently vvell engrauen vvhich yet the cunninge vvorckeman doth better consider and laboureth to make more perfect this foresaide Romula fell into such a pitifull palsye that she was faine to keepe her bedd where she laye depriued almost of all the vse of her members which great crosse notwithstanding drewe her not to any impatience but rather the sicknes of her bodye was the health of her soule and the cause of her greater increase in vertue for the lesse she could doe in other thinges the more she did in praier and deuotion Vpon a certaine nighte she called for Redempta who as I sayde brought them both vp as her daughters saying Come mother come mother who straighte-waies with her other disciple rose vp and as my selfe and many more haue heard it from theire owne mouthes when they were about midnighte by her beddes side suddainlye there came a lighte from heauen which filled all that cell and such a brightenes there appeared that it put them both into a vvonderfull feare and as them selues did aftervvarde report all theire bodye became colde in such sorte that there they stoode amazed for
they heard a noise as it were of many that came in and the cell dore shaken and thrust open as thoughe there had bene a greate presse of people and as they saide they heard a greate company come in yet they saw no body and that by reason of great feare and much lighte for both feare did make them to hold theire eies downe-warde and the brightenes of such plentye of lighte did so dazell them that they coulde not beholde any thinge Straighte after that lighte followed a wonderfull pleasaunt smell which did greatly comfort theire fearefull heartes Romula perceiuing that they coulde not endure that abundance of lighte with sweete wordes comforted Redempta that stoode trembling by her beds side saying Be not affearde mother for I shall not dy at this tyme and when she had often repeated those wordes by little and little the lighte vanished awaye but yet the sweete smell remayned still and so continued both the next and the thirde day after Vpon the fourth nighte againe she called for that her mother and when she was come she desired to receiue the Sacrament and so she did and beholde before Redempta or her other disciple departed from her beddes side suddainlye they hearde two quires singing before the dore without and as they saide they perceiued by theire voices that the one was of men that began the psalmes and the other of wemen that answered and whiles these heauenly funerals were in celebratinge before the cell dore that holy soule departed this life and was caried in that manner vp into heauen and the higher those two quires did ascende the lesse did they heare that celestiall musick vntill at length they heard no more and beside that sweet and odoriferous smell which before they felt vanished quite awaye OF THE DEPARTVRE OF the holy Virgin Tarsilla CHAPTER XVI SOmetyme also for the comfort of the soule that departeth there appeareth vnto it the author him selfe of life and rewarder of all vertue for proffe whereof I will here report that which I remember also to haue spoken of in myne Homelies concerninge myne aunt Tarsilla who in the company of two others of her sisters had for continuance in praier grauitye of life singularity in abstinence arriued to the topp of perfection To this woman Felix my great grand-father sometyme Bishop of this sea of Rome appeared in vision and shewed her the habitation of euerlasting lighte speaking thus Come with me and I will entertaine you in this dwelling place of lighte Shortly after taken with an agew she was broughte to the last cast and as when noble men and wemen ly a dyinge manye do visit them for the comfort of theire friendes so diuers both men and wemen at the tyme of her departure were come which stoode round about her bedde at what tyme she suddainlye casting her eies vpwarde behelde our Sauiour comminge wherevpon looking earnestly vpon him she cried out to them that were present Away awaye my Sauiour Iesus is come and so fixinge her eies vpon him whom she behelde her holy soule departed this life and such a wonderfull fragrant smell ensued that the sweetnes thereof gaue euident testimony that the author of all sweetnes was there present Afterwarde when her deade bodye according to the manner was made ready to be washed they founde that vvith long custome of praier the skin of her armes and knees vvas like a camels become harde and so her deade bodye gaue sufficient testimonye vvhat her liuing spirit had continually practised OF THE DEPARTVRE OF a yonge maide called Musa CHAPTER XVII NEither must that be forgotten vvhich the seruant of God before mentioned called Probus vsed to tell of a little sister vvhich he had called Musa for he saide that one nighte our blessed Lady appeared vnto her in vision shewing her sundrye yonge maides of her owne yeares doathed all in vvhite vvhose company she much desiring but yet not presuminge to go amongest them the Blessed Virgin asked her whether she had any ●ninde to remaine with them and to liue in her seruice to whom she ansvvered that willingly she wolde Then our blessed Lady gaue her in charge not to behaue her selfe lightely nor ●o liue any more like a girle to abstaine also from laughinge and pastime telling her that after thirty daies she sholde amongest those virgins which she then sawe be admitted to her seruice After this vision the yonge maide forsooke all her former behauior and with greate grauitye reformed the leuitye of her childish yeares which thinge her parentes porceiuing and demanding from whence that change proceded she tolde them what the blessed mother of God had giuen her in commandement and vpon what daye the was to go vnto her seruice Fiue and twenty daies after she fell sicke of an agewe and vpon the thirtith daye when the houre of her departure was come she behelde our blessed Lady accompanied vvith those Virgins vvhich before in vision she savve to come vnto her and being called to come avvaye she ansvvered vvith her eies modestlye cast do vvnevvarde and very distinctlye spake in this manner Beholde blessed Lady I come beholde blessed Lady I come in speaking of vvhich vvordes she gaue vp the ghost and her soule departed her virgins bodye to dvvell for euer vvith the holy virgins in heauen Peter Seing mankinde is subiect to many and innumerable vices I thincke that the greatest parte of heauen is replenished vvith little children and infantes HOVV CERTAINE YONGE CHILdren are hindred from heauen by theire parentes wicked education as is shewed by the example of a blasphemous yonge boye CHAPTER XVIII ALthoughe we oughte not to doubt but beleeue that all infantes which be baptized and dye in theire infancye goe to heauen yet no pointe of our beleefe it is that all little ones vvhich can speake do come vnto that holy place because some little children are kept from heauen by theire parentes which bring them vp wickedly and in lewde life For a certaine man in this city well knowne to all some three yeres since had a childe as I thinck fiue yeres olde which vpon too much carnal affection he brought vp very carelesly in such sort that the little one a lamentable case to speake of so sone as any thinge went contrary to his ●●inde straighte-waies vsed to blasphe●●e the name of God This childe in that great mortality which happened three yeres since fell sicke and came to the pointe of death and his father holding him at that tyme in his armes the childe as they saye which were then present behelde with trembling eies certaine wicked spirites comminge towardes him at which sight he began to crye out in this manner Kepe them away father kepe them awaye and crying so out he turned a waye his face wolde haue hidd him selfe in his fathers bosome who demaundinge why he was so affraide and what he savve O father quoth he there be black a mores come to carry me awaye after which wordes
monkes who they were that should shortly dy out of the Monasterye adding also that him selfe was to followe them The next day the foresaide monkes fell more dangerously sicke and so died all in that verye order which they were named in the bill Last of all him selfe also departed this life who hade foretold the departure of thee other monkes before him Likewise in that mortalitye which three years since lamentablye afflicted this towne there was in the Monasterye of the citye of Portua a yonge monke called Mellitus a man of wonderfull simplicitye and humilitye whose last daye being come he fell desperatlye sicke of the common disease which when venerable Felix Bishop of the same place vnderstoode by whose relation my selfe haue learned this storye verye carefull he was to visit him and with sweete wordes to comfort him against death adding not-withstandinge that by Gods grace he mighte liue longe in this worlde To whom the sicke man answered that his tyme was at hande saying that there came vnto him a yonge man with letters willing him to open and reade them which when he had done he saide that he founde both his owne name and all the rest of them which the Easter before had bene baptized by that Bishop written in letters of golde and first of all he saide that he founde his owne name and afterwarde the rest of them that were christned at that tyme by which he made no doubt but that both him selfe and the rest shoulde shortly depart this life and so it fell out for he died that very daye and after him followed all those which had before benebaptised so that within the space of a fewe daies no one of them was left aliue Of whom no question can be made but that the reason why the foresaide seruaunt of God saw them written in gold was because theire names were written in heauen in the euer lasting sighte of God And as these men by diuine reuelation knewe and foretolde such thinges as were to come so sometymes soules before theire departure not in a dreame but waking may haue some taste of heauenly mysteries For you were well acquainted with Ammonius a monke of my Monasterye who whiles he liued in a secular vveede and vvas Secular weede● married to the daughter of Valerianus a lavvyer in this citye continuallye and vvith all diligence he follovved his busines by reason vvhereof he knevve vvhatsoeuer vvas done in his father in lawes house This man tolde me hovv in that great mortalitye vvhich happened in this citye in the tyme of that noble man Narsus there vvas a boye in the house of the foresaide Valerianus called Armentarius vvho vvas verye simple and passing humble when therfore that mortall disease entred that lawyers house the foresaide boy fell sicke thereof and was brought to the pointe of death who suddainly falling into a traunce and afterward comming to him selfe againe caused his master to be sent for to whom he told that he had bene in heauen and did knowe who they were that should dy out of his house Such and such quoth he shall dye but as for your selfe feare nothinge for at this tyme dy you shall not And that you may be assured that I haue verily bene in heauen beholde I haue there receiued the gift to speake with all tongues you knowe well ynoughe that ignorant I am of the greke tongue and yet will I speake greeke that you may see whether it be true that I saye or no. Then his master spake greke and he so answered him in that tongue that all which were present did much maruaile In the same house there was a Vulga● seruant to the foresaide Narsus who in all hast being brought to the sicke person spake vnto him in the Vulgarian tongue and the boye that was borne and broughte vp in Italye answered him so in that barbarous language as thoughe he had bene borne and bredd in that countrye All that hearde him thus talking wondred much and by experience of two tongues which they knewe very well that before he knewe not they made no doubt of the rest thoughe they could make no trial thereof After this he liued tvvo daies and vpon the thirde by vvhat secret iudgement of God none can tell he tare and rent vvith his teth his ovvne handes and armes and so departed this life When he was deade all those whom before he mentioned did quicklye follow after and besides them none in that house died at that tyme. Peter A verye terrible thinge it is that he which merited so great a grace should be punnished with so pitifull a death Gregory Who is able to enter into the secret iudgements of God Wherfore those thinges which in diuine examination we can not comprehend we ought rather to feare then curiouslye to discusse OF THE DEATH OF THE Earle Theophanius CHAPTER XXVII ANd to prosecute what we haue already begun concerning the propheticall knowledge of those that dye I will nowe tell you that which when I was in the citye of Centumcellis I vnderstoode by the relatiō of many touching Theophanius Earle of that place For he was a man of great mercye and compassion and one that did many goode worckes but especiallye he was giuen to goode house-keeping and hospitalitye True it is that following the affaires of his Earldom he spent much tyme about earthly and worldlye busines but that rather of necessitye and duty then according to his owne minde and desire as his vertuous ende afterwarde declared For when the tyme of his death was come there arose a great tempest which was likelye to hinder the funeralles where at his wife pitifullye weeping asked him in this manner what shall I do or how shall we carye you to be buried seing the tempest is so terrible that none can stir out of doores To whom he answered thus weepe not good wife for so sone as I am deade you shall haue faire wether and when he had so saide he gaue vp the ghost and straighte-waies the aier became clere and the tempest ceased after this miracle one or tvvo more follovved For vvhereas his handes and feete vvere vvith the goute before svvolne and festered and by reason of much corrupt matter did sauour and smell yet vvhen he vvas dead and his body after the manner came to be vvashed they founde his handes and feete so sounde and vvhole as though they had neuer bene trobled vvith any such sores at all Fovver daies after his burial his vvife vvas desirous to haue the marble stone that lay vpon him changed vvhich being done such a fragrant and pleasant smell came from his bodye as thoughe in steade of wormes spices had sprunge out of that corrupt carcasse of which strange thinge when I did in my Homelies make publicke mention and certaine incredulous persons doubted thereof vpon a daye as I was sitting in the companye of diuers noble men those very vvorkmen which had changed the tombe stone came vnto me about busines of
body which by meanes of the bodye it had often tymes before sene to the end that we should thereby vnderstanne whether his soule mighte spiritually be carried And in that he saide he was to goe into Sicily what els can be ment therebye but that there be in the Ilandes of that countrye more then in any place els certayne gaping gulphes of tormentes castinge out fire continually And as they say that knowe them dailye do they wax greater and enlarge them selues so that the worlde drawinge to an ende and so consequently more comming thither to be burnt in those flaminge dungeons so much the more do those places of tormentes open and become wider Which strange thing almighty God for the terror and amendement of the liuing wolde haue extant in this world that infidels which beleeue not the vnspeakable paines of hell may with their eies see the places of tormentes which they list not to credit when it is told them And that both the elect and reprobat whose life and conuersation hath bene alike shal after death be carried to like places the sayinge of our Sauiour doth teach vs thoughe we had no examples to proue the same for of the elect him selfe saith in the Gospell In the house of my father Ioan. 14. Inequality of rewardes in heauen there be many mansions For yf there were not inequalitye of rewardes in the euerlasting felicitye of heauen then were there not many mansions but rather one wherfore there be many mansions in which diuers orders and degrees of Gods sainctes be distinguished who in common do all reioice of the society and fellowship of theire merites and yet all they that labored receiue one penny thoughe they remayne in distinct mansions because the felicitye and ioye which there they possesse is one and the rewarde which by diuers and vnequall good Worckes they receiue is not one but diuers which to be true our Sauiour assureth vs when talkinge of his comminge to iudgement he saith Then I wil say to the Math. 13. reapers Gather vp the cockle and binde it into bundels to burne For the Angels w●ich be the reapers do then binde vp in bundles the cockle to burne when like with like are putt together in tormentes as the proude to burne in hell with the proude carnall with the carnall couetous with the couetous deceiptfull with the deceiptfull inuious with the inuious and infidels with insidels when therfore those that were like in sinfull life be condemned to like tormentes then be they as it were cockle bounde together in bundels to be burnte Peter You haue giuen a sufficient reason for satisfaction to my demande yet I beseech you to informe me further what the cause is that some be called out of this vvorlde as it vvere throughe error vvho aftervvarde returne againe to life saying that they hearde hovv they vvere not the men vvhich vvere sent for out of this life OF THOSE SOVLES VVHICH seme as it were throughe error to be taken out of theire bodies and of the deathe and reuiuinge of a monke called Peter of the death likewise and raising vp againe of one Steuen and of the strange vision of a certaine soldiar CHAPTER XXXVI Gregory VVHen this happeneth Peter it is not yf it be vvell considered any error but an admonition For God of his great and bountifull mercy so disposeth that some after theire death do straighte-vvaies returne againe to life that hauing seene the tormentes of hell vvhich before vvhen they hearde they vvolde not beleeue they may novv at least treble at after they haue vvith theire eyes beheld them For a certaine Sclauonian vvho vvas a monke and hued vvith me here in this city in my Monasterye vsed to tell me that at such tyme as he dvvelt in the vvildernes that he knevve one Peter a monke borne in Spaine vvho liued vvith him in the vast desert called Euasa vvhich Peter Eremites as he saide tolde him how before he came to dwell in that place by a certaine sicknes he died and was straightwaies restored to life againe affirming that he had sene the tormentes and innumerable places of hell and diuers who were mighty men in this vvorlde hanging in those flames and that as him selfe was caried to be throwne also into the same fire suddainly an Angel in a be wtifull attire appeared who wolde not suffre him to be cast into those tormentes but spake vnto him in this manner Go thy way backe againe and hereafter carefully looke vnto thy selfe how thow leadest thy life after which wordes his body by little and little became warme and him selfe waking out of the slepe of euerlasting death reported all such thinges as happened about him after which tyme he bounde him selfe to such fasting and watchinge that thoughe he had saide nothing yet his very life and conuersation did speake vvhat tormentes he had sene and was affraide of and so Gods mercifull prouidence wroughte in his temporall death that he died not euerlastinglye But because mans harte is passing obdurat and harde hereof it commeth that thoughe others haue the like vision and see the same paines yet do they not alwaies reape the like profit For the honorable man Steuen whom you knevve very vvell tolde me of him selfe that at such tyme as he vvas vpon busines resident in the city of Gonstantinople that he fell sicke and died and vvhen they sought for a surgeon to bovvell him and to embalme his bodye and coulde not get any he laye vnburied all the nighte follovving in vvhich space his soule vvas carried to the dungeon of hell vvhere he savve many thinges vvhich before when he heard he little beleeued But vvhen he vvas broughte before the iudge that satt there he vvolde not admitt him to his presence sayinge I commanded not this man to be broughte but Steuen the smith vpon which wordes he was straighte-way restored to life and Steuen the smith that dwelled harde by at that very houre departed this life whose death did showe that the wordes which he heard were most true But thoughe the foresaide Steuen escaped death in this manner at that tyme yet three yeares since in that mortalitye vvhich lamentably vvasted this citye and in vvhich as you knovve men vvith theire corporall eies did behold arrovves that came from heauen vvhich did strike diuers the same man ended his daies at vvhich tyme a certaine soldiar being also broughte to the pointe of death his soule vvas in such sort caried cut of his bodye that he lay voide of all sence and feelinge but comminge quickely againe to him selfe he tolde then that vvere present vvhat present vvhat strange th●nges he had sene For he saide as many report that knowe it very well that he sawe a bridge vnder which a blacke and smoakye riuer did runne that had a filthy and intollerable smell but vpon the further side thereof there were pleasant grene medowes full of swete flowers in which also there were diuers companies of men
is the reason that in these latter daies so many thinges come to lighte which in tymes past were not knowne in such sort that by open reuelations and manifest signes the ende of the worlde semeth not to be far of VVHY IN LATTER TYMES so many thinges be knowne concerning mens soules VVhich in former ages were not heard of CHAPTER XLI Gregory So it is for the nerer that this presē● world draweth to wards an end so muche the more the worlde to come is at hande and sheweth it selfe by more plaine and euident tokens For seing in this worlde we knowe not one an others cogitations and in the next mens hartes be knowne to all what fitter name can we giue to this worlde then to terme it nighte and what better to the next then to call it daye But as when the nighte is almost spent and the daye beginneth to breake darkenes and lighte be in a certaine manner ioyned together vntil the lighte of the day followinge doth perfectly bannishe away the darke remnantes of the former nighte euen so the ende of this world is as it were mingled together with the beginninge of the next and with the darckenes of this some lighte of such spirituall thinges as be in that doth appeare and so we see many thinges which belonge to that vvorlde yet for all this perfect knovvledge vve haue not anye but as it vvere in the tvvilighte of our soule beholde them before the risinge of that sonne of knowledge vvhich then abundantly vvill cast his beames ouer all Peter I like very well of your speeche yet in so worthy a man as Paschasius was this doubt doth trouble me howe he was after his death caried to any place of punnishement seing the touching of his garment vpon the biere did dispossesse a vvicked spirit Gregory Herein appeareth the great and manifolde prouidence of almightye God by whose iust iudgement it fell out that Paschasius for sometyme entertayned inwardly synne in his soule and yet in the sighte of the worlde wroughte miracles by his body after his death who in his life tyme did as they knowe many goode worckes to the end that those which had sene his vertuous life shoulde not be deceiued concerning the opinion of his great almes and yet him selfe should not without punnishement haue remission of his synne which whiles he liued he thoughte to be no synne and therfore did not by teares washe it awaye Peter I vnderstande very well what you say but by this reason I am driuen ●nto such straightes that I must stand in feare both of those synnes which I knowe and also of those which I know not But because a little before you discoursed of the places of tormentes in what part of the worlde I beseech you are vve to beleue that hel is vvhether aboue the earth or beneath the same IN VVHAT PLACE OF THE worlde we oughte to beleue that hell is CHAPTER XLII Gregory TOuchinge this pointe I dare not rashelye desine any thinge for some haue bene of opinion that hell vvas in some place vpon the earth and The latin ●ord for ●el signi●eth a ●ace be●eath others thincke that it is vnder the earth but then this doubt ariseth for yf it be therfore called hell or an infernall place because it is belovve then as the earth is distant from heauen so likevvise shold hel be distant from the earth for which cause perhappes the Prophet saith Thow hast deliuered Psal 8 my soule from the lower hel so that the higher hell may seme to be vpon the earth and the lower vnder the earth and vvith this opinion that sentence of Iohne agreeth who when he had saide that he sawe a booke sealed with Apocal. seauen seales and that non was found worthy neither in heauen nor in earth nor vnder the earth to open the booke and loose the seales thereof he added forthwith and I wept much which booke notwithstanding afterwarde he saith was opened by a lion of the tribe of Iuda By which booke what els can be ment but the holy scripture which our Sauiour alone did open for being made man by his death resurrection and ascension he did reueale and make manifest all those mysteries which in that booke were closed shutt vppe And none in heauen because not any Angell none vpon earth because not man liuinge in body not any vnder the earth was founde worthy because neither the soules departed from theire bodies could opē vnto vs beside our Lord him selfe the secretes of that sacred booke Seing then none vnder the earth is said to be founde worthy to open that booke I see not what doth lett but that we sholde beleeue that hell is in the lower partes vnder the earthe Peter I beseech you Is there one fire in hell or accordinge to the diuersitye of sinners be there so many sortes of fires prepared in that place VVHETHER THERE IS ONE fire in hel or many CHAPTER XLIII Gregory THe fire of hell is but one yet doth it not in one manner torment all synners For euerye one there according to the quantit●e of his synne hath the measure of his paine For as in this world many liue vnder one and the same sunne and yet do not alike feele the heate thereof for some be burnt more and some lesse so in that one sire diuers manners of burninge be founde for that which in this worlde diuersity of bodies doth that in the next doth diuersitye of synnes so that althoughe the fire be there all alike yet doth it not in one manner and alike burne and torment them that be damned Peter Shall those I pray you which be condemned to that place burne alwaies and neuer haue anye ende of theire tormentes VVHETHER THOSE THAT be in hel shal burne there sor euer CHAPTER XLIIII Gregory CErtaine it is and without all doubt most true that as the goode shall haue no ende of theire ioyes so the wicked neuer any release of theire tormentes for our Sauiour him selfe saith The wicked shal goe into euerlasting Math. 2 punnishment and the iust into euerlasting life seing then true it is that which he hath promised to his friendes out of al question false it can not be that which he hath threatned to his enemies Whar yf it be saide that he did threaten eternall paine to wicked liuers that he might thereby restrayne them from committing of synnes Gregory Yf that which he did threaten be false because his intent was by that meanes to keepe men from wicked life then likewise must we say that those thinges are false which he did promise and that this minde was therebye to prouoke vs to vertue But what man though madd dare presume so to saye For yf he threatned that which he ment not to put in execution whiles we are desirous to make him mercifull inforced we are likewise which is horrible to speake to affirme him to be deceiptfull Peter Willinge I am to knowe howe that
synne can iustlye be punnished without ende which had an end when it was committed Gregory This which you saye mighte haue some reason yf the iust iudge did only consider the synnes committed and not the mindes vvith which they were committed for the reason why wicked men made an end of synninge was because they also made an end of their life for willingly they wolde had it bene it theire power haue liued without ende that they mighte in like manner haue sinned without ende For they doe playnely declare that they desired alwaies to liue in sunne who neuer so longe as they were in this world gaue ouer theire wicked life and therfore it belongeth to the great iustice of the supreme iudge that they sholde neuer want tormentes and punnishement in the next worlde who in this wolde neuer giue ouer theire vvicked and sinfull life Peter But no iudge that loueth iustice taketh pleasure in crueltye and the ende vvhy the iustmaster commandeth his vvicked seruaunt to be punnished is that he may giue ouer his levvd life Yf then the vvicked that are tormented in hell fire neuer come to amend them selues to vvhat ende shall they alvvaies burne in those flames Gregory Almightye God because he is mercifull and full of pitty taketh no pleasure in the tormentes of wretched men but because he is also iust therfore doth he neuer giue ouer to punnishe the wicked All which being condemned to perpetuall paines punnished they are for theire owne wickednes and yet shall they alwaies there burne in fire for some ende and that is that all those which be iust and Gods seruantes may in God beholde the ioyes which they possesse and in them see the tormentes which they haue escaped to the end that they may thereby alwaies acknowledge them selues gratefull to God for his grace in that they perceiue throughe his diuine assistaunce what synnes they haue ouercome which they beholde in others to be punnished euerlastinglye Peter And how I praye you can they be holy and sainctes yf they pray not for theire enemies whom they see to ly in such tormentes when it is saide to them Pray for your enemies Math. 5 v. 44. Gregory They praye for theire enemies at such tyme as theire hartes may be turned to fruitfull penance and so besaued for to what purpose els do we praye for our enemies but as the Apostle saith that God may giue them repentance 2. Timoth 2. v. 25. to knowe the truthe and recouer them selues from the deuil of whom they are held captiue at his will Peter I like very well of your sayinge for howe shall they pray for them who by no meanes can be conuerted from theire wickeones and broughte to do the worckes of iustice Gregory You see then that the reason is all one why in the next life none shall praye for men condemned for euer to hell fire that there is nowe of not praying for the deuill and his angels sentenced to euerlasting tormentes and this also is the very reason why holy men do not nowe pray for them that dye in theire infidelitye and knovvne vvicked life for seing certaine it is that they be condemned to endlesse paines to vvhat purpose should they pray for them vvhen they knovve that no petition vvill be admitted of God theire iust iudge And therfore yf novve holy men liuing vpon earth take no compassion of those that be dead and damned for theire synnes vvhen as yet they knovve that them selues doe some thinge throughe the frailty of the fleshe vvhich is also to be iudged hovv much more straightly and seuerelye doe they beholde the tormentes of the damned vvhen they be them selues deliuered from all vice of corruption and be more nerelye vnited to true iustice it selfe for the force of iustice doth so possesse theire soules in that they be so intrinsecall vvith the most iust iudge that they list not by any meanes to do that vvhich theye knovve is not conformable to his diuine pleasure Peter The reason you bringe is so clere that I can not gaine say it but novv an other question commeth to my minde and that is how the soule can truly be called immortall seing certaine it is that it doth dye in that perpetuall fire HOVV THE SOVLE IS SAID to be immortall and neuer to dye if it be punnished with the sentence of deathe CHAPTER XLV Gregory BEcause there be two manner of liues consequently also there be two manner of deathes For one kinde of life there is by which we liue in God another which we receiued by our creation orgeneration and therfore one thinge it is to liue blessedlye and an other thinge to liue naturallye The soule therfore is both mortall and immortall mortall because it looseth the felicitye of an happy life and immortall in that it alwaies keepeth his naturall life which can neuer be loste no not when it is sentenced to perpetuall death for in that state thoughe it hath not a blessed life yet it doth retaine still the former being and naturall life by reason whereof it is inforced to suffer death without death defect without defect and end without end seing the death which it indudureth is immortall the desect w●ich it suffereth neuer faileth and the end which it hath is infinite and without ende Peter What man is he thoughe neuer so holy that comming to leaue this mortall life hath not iust cause to fea●e the vnspeakeable sen●●n●e of damnation for althoughe he knoweth what he hath done yet ignorant he is not howe straightlye his worckes shall be examined and iudged OF A CERTAINE HOLY MAN that was assraide when he came to dye CHAPTER XLXVI Gregory IT is euen so Peter as you saye And yet sometyme the only feare of death doth purge the soules of iust men from theire smaller synnes as you and I haue often hearde of a certaine holy man that was very much affraide when he came to dye and yet after he was deade appeared to his disciples in a white stoale reporting to them in what excellent manner he was receiued when he departed out of this worlde HOVV SOME BY DIVINE reuelation are discharged from feare at theire death And of the manner how the monkes Anthony Merulus and Iohn departed this life CHAPTER XLVII SOmetyme also almightye God doth by diuine reuelation strengthen the mindes of them that be fearefull to the end that they should not be affraide of death For a certaine monke there vvas called Anthonye that liued together with me in my Monasterye who by daily teares laboured to come to the ioyes of heauen and when as he did verye carefullye and with great zeale of soule meditate vpon the sacred scriptures he soughte not so muche for cunninge and knowledge as for teares and contrition of hart that by meanes thereof his soule mighte be stirred vp and inflamed and that by contemninge all earthly thinges he mighte with the winges of contemplation flye vnto the kingdome of heauen This man vpon a