vnited THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that Christ was inuocated as he was Sonne of Dauid and as in the time of his passion he had not yet entred into his kingdome and that he was adored as he was a child and the sonne of Marie The same saye Catholiks Protestants expressely saye that Christ as man is not to be inuocated that according to his humanitie he heareth not our praiers in heauen that as man he is no way to be worshipped that Godhead is the onely proper obiect of religious worshippe that who direct their inuocation or adoration to Christs humanitie blaspheme God are true Idolaters blaspheme God and are accursed by Gods mouth Which are so opposite to Scripture as Some Protestants confesse it See l. 2. c. vlt. ART IV. WHETHER CHRIST AS MAN or the humanitie of Christ had power to quicken to remitte sinnes to worke miracles SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Mathew 9. v. 6. and 8. But that you may know that the Christ as maÌ„ had power to forgiue sinnes Sonne of man hath power in earth to forgiue sinnes And the multitudes seing it were affraied glorified God that gaue such power to men Ihon. 6. v. 54. He that eateth my flesh and drinketh my blood To giue life hath life euerlasting Acts. 4. vers 10. In the name of Iesus Christ of Nazareth To worke miracles whom you did crucifie whom God hath raised from the dead in this same this man standeth before you whole Hebrews 9. v. 19. For if the blood of goates and of oxen and the asses of an heifer being sprincled sanctifieth the polluted to the cleansing of the flesh how much more shall the blood of Christ who by the holie Ghost offered him selfe vnspotted vnto God To puâ—ge from sinne cleanse our conscience from dead workes to serue the liuing God CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME S. Thomas 3. parte 416. art 11. The power of forgiuing sinnes consisteth in Christs diuine nature by authoritie but in his humane nature it is instrumentally and by ministerie PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Perkins in Galat. 3. v. 5. Not Christ himselfe as man could As man he could not worke a miracle Not profitable as man worke a true miracle Zuinglius l. de ver falsa relig c. de Euchar. to 2. Christ is profitable to vs on that parte wherewith he descended from heauen not on that whereby he was borne of the immaculate Virgin Agayne He could be profitable onely according to his diuinitie Which he repeateth in Ioan. 6. to m. 4. and there addeth Christs flesh profiteth nothing nothing at all His flesh profiteth nothing at all Had no power to giue life Beza in Colloq Montisbel p. 276. In the meane time we deny that Christs flesh is truly viuificall A gayne But that there is any power or vertue of quickning in Christs flesh for which power imparted to it it may be saied viuificall and to quicken that we deny And p. 279. The vertue of quickning is so proper to the diuinitie as it cannot be communicated euen to the flesh of Christ nor to any other creature vnlesse it be turned into the diuinitie Lib. cont Brent col 1. pag. 527. he denieth that Christs humanitie forgiueth sinnes by vertue of the diuinitie which had giuen this power to it And p. 545. saieth Note that the power of sauing is not attributed to the flesh though assumpted but to the diuinitie of which it is assumpted And in Colloq cit p. 228. The raising of the dead is the worke of the diuinitie Nor to raise the dead onely which cannot be attributed to the humanitie of Christ Daneus Controu 4. q. 9. p. 195. Christ the Sonne of man liuing on earth remitted sinnes but not as man but as God as in Remitted not sinnes as maÌ„ the same diuine nature he wrought miracles not as man Sadeel respons ad Art abiurat 5. Our life firstly properly and precisely proceedeth from the diuine nature And the diuines Nor heareth our praiers of Heidelberg before cited Christ as man heareth not our praiers in heauen THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that the Sonne of man had in earth power to forgiue sinnes that who eateth his flesh hath life euerlasting that in the name of Christ crucified miracles were wrought that his blood clenseth our consciences from sinnes The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely teach the contrarie that Christ as man was not profitable vnto vs that his flesh profiteth nothing at all that it is not viuificall not hath any vertue of quickning that the diuinitie hath not giuen it any power of forgiuen sinnes that our life proceedeth precisely from the diuinitie that Christ as man did not forgiue sinnes did not worke any miracle could not worke any miracle that the raising of the dead caÌ„not be attributed to his humanitie Which are so contrarie to the Scripture as diuers Protestants do acknowledge it See l. 2. c. 30. ART V. WHETHER CHRIST AS MAN or his humanitie were euerie where SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY DENIETH. Mathew 28. v. 6. I know that you seeke Iesus that was crucified Christs bodie not in the Sepulcher after his resurrection He is not here Ihon 11. v. 15. Iesus saied to them plainly Lazarus is dead and Not where Lazarus died Not whereâ—e was sought I am glad for your sake that you may beleiue because I was not there And c. 6. v. 24. When therefore the multitude saw that Iesus was not there not his disciples they c. CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY DENIE Card. Bellarmin l. 3. de Incarnat c. 11. That Christs humanitie is eueriewhere is against Scripture PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Luther in Defens verb. caenae to 7. fol. 394. Christ manifestly Christs bodie in heauen and earth testifieth that his bodie is at once in heauen and in earth or rather present euery where Which he oftentimes repeateth Wherevpon Zuinglius resp ad Confes Lutheri to 2. fol. 446. saieth that Luther affirmeth Christ to be in euerie In eueriâ— place place no lesse according to his humane nature then his diuine Brentius apud Bezam lib. cont ipsum vol. 1. Theol. p. 516. It is necessarie that wheresoeuer the diuinitie of Christ is Wheresoeuer his godhead is there also he haue with him his humane nature Gerlachius tom 2. disput 2. p. 25. We put the humane nature of Christ almightie and in all places Smidelin in Hospin part 2. Hist fol. 323. The Humanitie of Christ is euerie where Which he and his followers defended openly in the Conference at Mulbrun and Montbelgard THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that Christ as man was not in the sepulcher after his resurrection that he was not where Lazarus died that he was not where the Iewes sought him The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that Christs bodie is euery where that his humanitie is wheresoeuer his diuinitie is that his humane nature is in all places Which is so opposite to Scripture as manie Protestants
Christ merited to him selfe exaltation THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that Christ was exalted and had a name giuen him aboue all names because he humbled him selfe that he was crowned with glorie because of his passion The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that Christ did not merit his exaltation did not merit any thing to him selfe could not merit to be iudge of the world and head of Angels ART XVI WHETHER CHRIST REDEEmed vs with a sufficient price or truely merited our redemption SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. 1. Cor. 6. v. 20. You are bought with a great price Christ bought vs with a great price 1. Timoth. 2. v. 6. For there is one God one also mediatour of God and men man Christ Iesus who gaue him selfe a redemption in Greek 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 for all 1. Peter 2. ver 18. Knowing that not with corruptible things gould or siluer you are redeemed from your vaine conuersation With his pretious blood of your fathers tradition but with the pretious blood as it were of an immaculate and vnspotted lambe Christ 1. Ihon 3. v. 16. In this we haue knowne the charitie of God because he hath yeelded his life for vs. c. 4. v. 10. He hath loued vs and sent his sonne a propitiation for our sinnes Mathew 20. ver 28. The Sonne of man is come to giue his life a redemption in Greek 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 for manie Rom. 3. v. 24. Iustified gratis by his grace by the redemption in Greek 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 that is in Christ Iesus Psalm 129. v. 7. Because with our Lord is mercie and with him plenteous redemption CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME S. Thomas 3. part artic 2. Christ suffering of charitie and obedience did giue God some thing more then the recompence of the offence of all mankinde did exact The passion of Christ was not onely a sufficient obut also a superaboundant satisfaction for the sinnes of mankinde PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Tindal in Fox his Acts printed An. 1610. pag. 1136. Christ Christ merited not heaueÌ„ with all his works did not merite heauen Daneus Controu 2. lib. 5. p. 210. Three necessarie conditioÌ„s of merite do faile in the workes of a creature and of Christ man towards God For by the vnion hypostaticall Christ doth not He did not merit merite Page 200. Christ as man properly merited nothing with God P. 202. Yea not in this forme of a seruant could Christ merite any thing to himselfe because in this forme he was a credture But a creature can merite nothing of his Creator Caluin 2. Instit c. 17 § 1. Truely I confesse that if any would simply and by himselfe oppose Christ vnto the iudgment of God there were no place for merite because there will not be found in man any worth which may merite before God § vlt. With what merits could man obtaine to be iudge of the world and head of Angels 3. Instit c. 11. § 12. It is fondly obiected of him that the power of iustifying farre supasseth both men and Angels seing this dependeth not vpon the worth of any creature but of Gods ordination If the Angels would satisfie God they would auaile nothing because they were not destinated to this end but this was proper to Christ man who was subiect to the law for to redceme vs from the curse of the law And Respons ad quaest Sozin Christ could merit nothing but through the pleasure of God Et in Ioan. 4. v. 10. When Christ is sated to haue appeased the Father towards vs this is referred to our sense For as we are guiltie to our selues we cannot conceaue God but as angrie and offended till Christ absolue vs from the guilt Wherefore touching the feeling of our faith God beginneth to loue vs in Christ Spindlerus apud Scusselburg l. 4. Theol. Caluin c. 5. The His death no sufficient redemption for all sinnes Lutherans erre in saying that Christs death was a sufficient redemption 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 for the sinnes of all and euerie man Piscator apud Vorstium in Parasceue c. 6. Christ died not sufficiently much lesse effectually for all Welsingius apud Homium in Specim Controuer Belgic His blood satisfied not Gods iustice art 21. That Christs blood satisfied Gods iustice for our sinnes is no where extant and it is plainly contrarie to the free and iust remission of sinnes which God hath offered to vs by Christ And the same say other Protestants as Caluin reporteth 2. Instit c. 17. § 1. and Beza in Absters calumn Heshusij p. 324. Slatius apud Homium loc cit There is question whether Christ properly satisfied not Christ properly satisfied for vs. We denie it And the same hath Vorstius ib. Who also addeth That Christ satisfied by a certaine acceptation not by exact identitie Pareus l. 5 de Iustific c. 3. To merit is the parte of seruants To merite is serutle and sordid serutle and sordid THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that Christ bought vs with a great price that he gaue 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 that is a ransom or price of redemption for vs that he redeemed vs with his pretious blood that God gaue his life for vs sent his sonne a propitiation for our sinnes that with God there is plentuous redemption Catholiks say the same Protestants expressely say the contrarie that Christ could not merite heauen had no place for merit if we respect the iudgment of God did not merite three conditions necessatie to merite wanted in his works that power of meriting in him depended of Gods pleasure and ordination That properly he did not satisfie for vs that his blood did not satisfie Gods iustice that his death was not a sufficient 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or ransom for all that to merite is seruile and sordid ART XVII WHETHER CHRIST REDEEmed vs by his blood or corporall death SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Coloss 1. ver 22. And you whereas some time alienated and Christ redeemed vs by his death By his blood By he oblacion of his bodie enemies in sense in euill works yet now he hath reconciled in the bodie of his flesh by death vers 20. Pacifying by the blood of his crosse whether the things in earth or the things that are in heauen Hebrews 10. v. 10. In the which will we are sanctified by the oblation of the bodie of Iesus Christ once c. 9. vers 12. By his owne blood entred once into the Holies eternall redemption being found Ephes 1. v. 6. In whome we haue redemption by his blood the remissâ—on of sinnes 1. Peter v. 19. You are redeemed with the pretious blood as it were of an immaculate and vnsported lambe Christ Acts 20. v. 28. The holie Ghost hath placed you Bishops to rule the Church of God which he hath purchased with his owne blood Apocalips 5. v. 9. Thou hast redeemed vs to God in thy blood CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME S. Thomas 3. part q. 48. art 5.
saing directly and expresly This is not my bodie But onely mens inference out of a mixt word to wit Christs bodie is in heauen and can not be in two places which word is mixt partely of Gods word for the former parte and of mens word for the latter And shall we thinke that in a matter of faith which we can not know but by Gods teaching his pure and expresse word is not to be preferred before mens inference out of a mixt word which is in parte mens word What els can we thinke vnles we will euen in Gods matters preferre men before God 15. The seauenth cōmoditie is that in this word are discouered all or the most vsuall shifts wherewith Protestāts vse to delude the testimonies of holie Scripture Which surely is no lesse profitable then to know the deceits of enemies with whom we are to fight And as Tertullian saieth VVoe be to him who whiles he is in this life knoweth not De resur c. 19. the secrets of Heretiks And these are the especiall profits and commodities which may be reaped by this work Now let vs remoue certaine scruples or hinderances of the reaping of them 16. The first scruple may be about the vulgar Latin trāslation Obiections or difficulties remoued which I follow in citing the words of Scripture But to omit all which Catholiks produce for to proue that translation to be authenticall because this is no place to treate of that matter Protestants cōfessions hereof may suffice which may be seene in the Protestants Apologie for the Rom. Church Treat 1. Sect. 10. subd 4. to which I add that Casoubon writeth I acknowledg the Latin translation of the bible to be holie Scripture and I account an vnperdonable fault to so much as doubt thereof That Iuel art 17. sect 4. saieth It hath bene euer more generally receaued in the Church That Beza in Luc. 1. confesseth That the ancient interpreter did most religiously translate the Scripture And in Luc. 8. v. 54. That him self had twoe ancient Greek copies which meruailously agreed with the vulgar Latin And Prefat in Testam That the vulgar interpreter had a truer Greek copie then theirs now are Whitaker also Cont. 1. q. 2. c. 7. graunteth that the Latin Fathers commend it and iustly Hounfrey l. 1. de Rat. interpret affirmeth That the old Interpretor seemeth enough addicted to the proprietie of the word Moreouer Luther and Protestants commonly confesse that Catholiks haue the word of God that the Fathers vsed the Latin translation in their disputes for maintenance of the Catholik faith and confutation of Heresies Besids Fulk in his preface to the Testament saieth that none of them calleth the vulgar translation of the new testament Papisticall as though it were translated by Papists or els made so greatly for Papists when it is rightly vnderstood Finally the vulgar Latin translation differeth not from the originall Hebrew or Greek text but in very few of those places which here I cite and therefore it wil be but vayne to cauil here about this matter 17. The secōd scruple may be that some times the very why Protest can not excuse them selues by the Scripture Scripture contradicteth it self in shew of words and neuertheles in sense and meaning is neuer repugnant to it self And therefore it is not so great meruail if Protestāts some time contradict the words of Scripture nether can it be thereof inferred that the contradict the sense To this I answer that the Scripture nether so often nor in so many and so weightie matters nor so manifestly and directly contradicteth it self in words as Protestants doe Nether need we so many and so incredible shifts for to reconcile the words of Scripture as Protestants need to reconcile their sayings with the Scripture Besids God may speak as he pleaseth therefore may for to exercise our faith and studie mingle some shew of contradiction in his words but Protestants are bound to speak as God speaketh and not to gaine say so much as his words as doubtles they would not if their meaning were not repugnant to his Agayne we may not out of anie seeming contradiction in Gods words infer anie opposition in his meaning because we know that he can not be contrarie to him self but we know that Protestants can not be contrarie to Gods meaning as we see that they be contrarie to his words and therefore out of their so frequent so manifest so direct contradicting of his words we iustly inferre that they also contradict his meaning as we would inferre the same of anie Heretiks whatsoeuer Moreouer this cauil will no more help Protestants then it will help anie other Heretiks sith there were euer scarce anie who so often so plainly so directly contradicted the expres word of God as Protestants haue done And therefore ether we may inferre out of the Protestants contradicting the words of God that they also contradict his true meaning or we can not inferre that of anie Heretiks whatsoeuer But of this more in the second booke cap. 1. 18. The third scruple may be that perhaps also VVhy they can not excuse them selues by Catholiks some Catholik writers haue in shew of words contradicted the Scripture But to this I answere that this is to accuse others not to cleare them selues Let them first answere for them selues before they recriminate others And if anie of them will goe about to lay the like fault vpon Catholiks let him keep these most iust and equal conditions First let him not medle with other matters then such as are in controuersie betwixt vs and them as I touch no other matters Secondly let him bring forth in so manie controuersies so manifest and so direct testimonies of holie Scripture agreeing with their doctrin both in wordes and sense and opposite to our doctrin as I haue brought Thou must proue saieth Tertullian as euidently as we proue Giue me a proof which I demand like to Cont. Prax. c. 11. De vnit c. 6. 24. mine And S. Austin Produce as cleare testimonies as these are which we produce to you We demande some manifest place which needeth no interpreter Thirdly let him shew that the Councell of Trent contradicteth as directly so many and so expres places of Scripture and that in so weightie matters as we haue shewed that theire confessions of faith of which as they say they make almost as great account of as Vorstius praefat Antilpraefat Syntagm we doe of the Councell of Trent Fourthly let him shew that so many and so famous Catholik writers haue in so many and so great controuersies contradicted the expres propositions or assertions of the holie Scripture as we haue shewed of the Protestant writers I say Propositions or Assertions because it is a farre greater matter to contradict the proportions of Scripture in which it pronounceth a thing to be or not to be to be such or not to be such then to varie onely from some of the
Sadeel speaketh Lib. de Sacrament Manducat p. 300. Beza l. de vnione hypostat vol. 3. p. 97. Apol. 1. cont Saintem Martyr in locis class 2. c. 16. § 12. in Disput Oxionensi p. 227. l. 1. epist Zanchij pag. 411. Whitaker l. 2. cont Dur. sect 8. Wherevpon iustly saied Smidelin the Lutheran vnto Bezâ— in Colloq Montisbel p. 26. They giue greater power to their faith then to God Tilenus in Syntagm c. 7. Who pretend that Christ with Someâ—hings repugne to Gods power his bodie did penetrate the stone that couered his tombe or the dores shut do affirme that which repugneth to the nature of a glorified bodie and to Gods power in working miracles Dareus cited by Smidelin in Colloq Montisbel p. 178. by Schusselburg l. 1. Theol. Caluin art 3. Christ could not so much as will that his bodie were at once in manie places because he could not performe it And when C Bellarmin did argue in this sorte God in the booke of Numbers ca. 5. did giue water power to kill adulteresse weomen and c. 21. gaue the brasen serpent vertue to cure therefore he can giue the word of baptisme vertue to change the water Daneus answereth Controu 3. c. 20. in these words God can not giue that power to any creatures vnlesse he make them true God cannot make water to kill and substantiall Gods and transfuse his power into them It is false that water Numb 5. had power to kill or the brasen serpent Numb 25. had power to cure Besides many Protestants say that God cannot giue to the Sacraments power to worke grace nor to men power to forgiue sinnes or to worke miracles and such like THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that God is almightie that he can do all things that all things are possible to him and nothing impossible The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say the contrarie that God hath no absolute power that the saying of Scripture All things are possible to God hath some exception that his omnipotencie is tied to an order that he can not put a bodie in manie places at once or not extensiuely in place that he cannot giue to water power to kill that his omnipoteÌ„cie beareth not some thing extendeth not to some thing and that some things repugne vnto it ART XXV WHETHER GOD CAN MAKE a Camelle passe through a needls eye SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Marke 10. v. 25. 26. It is easier for a Camelle to passe through God caÌ„ make a Camelle passe through a needls eye a needles eye then for a rich man to enter into the kingdome of heauen With men it is impossible And Matth. 19. This is impossble but not with God CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Card. Bellarmin lib. 3. de Euchar. cap. 6. The Pelagians saied that it was impossble for a Camelle remaining a Camelle to passe through a needls eye but not if he were lessened to the smalnes of a thred This is refuted because it is not impossible with men for a Camelle to passe through a needls eye if he cease to be a Camelle and be changed into a small thred PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Willet Controu 13. q. 1. pag. 609. It is not proued out of It is impossible to God this place that God caÌ„ draw the huge bodie of a Camelle through a needle remaining still of that bignesse no more then that it is possible for God to bring a proud rich arrogant man to heauen his affections not altered both these are impossible to God And the same say Spalatensis l. 5. de Repub. c. 6. nu 179. Bel in his Iesuits Antepaste p. 47. and others Beza in Marc. 10. ver 26. Can God make that a Camelle remayning such as it is by nature may passe through a needls eye No. Bucanus in institutio loc 48. pag. 797. God can make that a Camelle passe through a needls eye but not leauing him such as he is by nature but making him so small as is needfull THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that God can make a Camelle passe through a needls eye Catholiks say the same Protestants saie that God can not make a Camelle passe through a needls eye as long as he retaineth the bignesse of a Camelle ART XXVI WHETHER THAT BE possible to God which shall neuer be SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Mathew 3. ver 9. I tell you that God is able of these stones to God can do that which shall neuer be raise vp children to Abraham Mathew 26. vers 53. Thinkest thou that I cannot aske my Father and he will giue me presently more then twelue legions of Angels CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Card. Bellarmin lib. 3. de Euchar. cap. 2. The Scriptures do most plainly teach that God can do manie things which he will neuer do PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Beza in Colloq Montisbel p. 25. We say that God is so almightie for so much as belongeth to his power considered by it He cannot do that which he hath not decreed to doe His power must be measured by his will selfe as he cannot do that indeed which he hath decreed not doe Ministri in Colloq Parisiens die 5. The omnipotencie of God must be measured according to his will and things which belonge to his nature The same insinuateth Caluin 1. Institut c. 16. § 3. Where he will not admitt any omnipotencie of God but onely that which is effectuall operatiue and is continually working THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that God can doe that which he will not doe The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that he can not doe that which he hath decreed not to doe that his omnipotencie must be measured according to his will that he hath no omnipotencie but that which is continually working ART XXVII WHETHER GODS TRVE Miracles be a sufficient testimonie of truth SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Ihon. 5. vers 36. But I haue a greater testimonie then Ihon Gods miracles a sufficieÌ„t testimonie For the workes which the Father hath giuen me to perfit them the verie workes themselues which I doe giue testimonie of me that the Father hath sent me Cap. 10. ver 38. If I doe not the workes of my Father beleiue me not But if I doe and if you will no beleiue me beleiue the workes Luke 11. v. 20. But if I in the finger of God do cast out Diuels surely the kingdome of God is come vpon you Marke 16. v. vlt. But they going forth preached euerie where our Lord working withall and confirming the worke with signes that followed CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Card. Bellarmin lib. 4. de Ecclesiast cap. 14. A miracle is a sufficient testimonie and where is a true miracle there is true faith PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Whitaker Controu 2. quaest 5. cap. 12. pag. 528. I say No miracle is a sufficient testimonie that out of nether kind of miracles true or apparent there can be taken a sufficient testimonie or a certaine argument gathered
6. c. 9. Howbeit Christ died for all yet notwithstanding all receaue not the benefit of his death PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Perkins de Praedest to 1. col 144. It is maruailous absurd Redeemed not all that Christ on his parte should haue redeemed and reconciled to God all and euerie one and yet that in the ende manie of these should be damned De Serm. Dom. to 2. col 341. The opinion of vniuersall redemption is an inuention of mans braine Caluin in 1. Ioan. 2. v. 2. cit Vnder all he doth not comprehend the reprobats In 1. Tim. 2. v. 5. The vniuersall particle must be referred to all kind of men not to all persons Sadeel ad Art abiur 7. They speake amisse who say that by Redeemed not the sinnes of the whole world Christs death the sinnes of the whole world were redeemed Piscator l. 2. Thes p. 371. Christ died not vniuersally for all men but for the elect onely We denie that Christ died sufficiently for all but not effectually P. 177. Christ died nor for all but for some Bucanus Instit Theol. loco 36. Is not Christ the redeemer of all No. More of their like sayings may be seene in my Latin booke c. 1. art 19. THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely teacheth that Christ died for all that are dead that he gaue himselfe a redemption for all that he tasted death for all that he is the Sauiour of all men the Sauiour of the world the propitiation not onely of our sinnes but of all the whole world Catholiks teach the same Protestants expressely teach the contrarie that Christ on his parte redeemed not all and euerie one that vniuersall redemption is an inuention of mans braine that Christ died not vniuersally for all redeemed not the sinnes of the whole world nether sufficiently nor effectually died for all died but for some is not redeemer of all Which diuers Protestants confesse to be contrarie to Scripture See l. 2. c. 30. ART XX. WHETHER THE BLOOD wherewith Christ redeemed vs was putrefied and corrupted SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY DENIETH. Acts 2. v. 27. Because thou wilt not leaue my soule in hell nor Gods holie did not see corruption giue thy Holie to see corruption 1. Peter 1. v. 19. Knowing that not with corruptible things gould or siluer you are redeemed from your vaine conuersation of your fathers traditions but with the pretious blood as it were of an immaculate and vnspotted lambe Christ. CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY DENIE S. Thomas 3. par q. 34. art â— All the blood that flowed out of the bodie of Christ did rise in Christs bodie sith it belonged to the truth of his humane nature PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Perkins in Apoc. 1. to 2. col 41. The substance of that blood The substaÌ„ce of Christ blood perished of Christ which was shed did perish whatsoeuer the Papists do prate In Cathol reform CoÌ„tr. 10. c. 3. That blood which ranne out the feet and hands and siâ—e of Christ vpon the crosse was not gathered vp againe and put into the vâ—iâ—â—es Nâ—â— the collection was needls and none knowes what is become of this blood The same insinuateth Whitaker Contr. 2 q. 1 c. 9. p. 437. Beza in 2. part Resp ad Acta Colloq Montisbel p. 108. It were curious and profane to enquire what became of that selfe same blood which ranne out of the wounds of Christ and whether it were taken againe of him when he arose Musculus in locis Tit. de Caena We need not dispute of the blood of Christ what became of it after it was spilt on the grouÌ„d whether it were taken againe into his glorified bodie or no. Schusselbur lib. 1. Theol. Caluin art 20. reporteth Curaeus saying Christs blood shed for vs on the crosse was long Long since consumed Putrified since consumed And Erastus his companians teaching That Christs blood which he shed for our siâ—nes is putrified and no more in being Germanus Bauarus in Feuaâ—dent l. 4. Theomach Caluin c. 16. The substantiall blood of Christ is not giuen in the Supper because it was corrupted on the ground Corrupted THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that we were not redeemed with corruptible things but with the pretious blood of Christ that God suffered not his Holie to see corruption The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that it is profane to enquire what is become of Christs blood that long since it is consumed corrupted not gathered againe perished and is no more in being ART XXI WHETHER CHRISTS SOVLE descended to Hell SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Actes 2. v. 27. Thou wilt not leaue my soule in Hell Et v. Was in Hell 31. Foreseing he spake of the resurrection of Christ for nether was he left in Hell nether did his flesh see corruption CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME D. Stapleton in Actor 2. v. 27. This place doth plainly proue the descent of Christ into Hell in soule according to the article of Christian beleefe PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Whitaker l. 8. cont Dur. sect 23. Caluin defendeth that Neuer went to Hell Descended not to Hell Christs soule neuer went to the places of Hell And l. 9. sect 27. I beleiue that Christs soule seperated from the bodie not onely did not descend to Hell but streight mounted to Heauen Rogers vpon the 3. Article of Protestants Confession saieth that Carlile against D. Smithe pa. 28. 77. calleth this article of Christ descent into hell an error and a fable A fable Perkins in Explicat Symboli to 1. col 678. If we say that Christ in soule descended into Hell we plainly take away that manifest opposition betweene the first and the second Adam Beza in Actor 2. v. 27. Who by Hell vnderstand the place which is commoÌ„ly called Hell as if the soule of Christ had indeed descended thither surely are much deceaued Serranus cont Hayum part 3. pag. 722. Beza desirous to Descent to Hell a fable stoppe the way to that Popish fable of the descent of Christs soule into hell c. Hemingius in Enchir. Theolog. class 3. pag. 263. It skilleth not greatly to know how Christ descended into Hell so that with true faith we hould that he deliuered vs from the power of Hell Aretius in locis part 1. fol. 72. Other Protestants denie To be taken out of the Creed all descent of Christ into Hell Some of them eagerly impugne this descent for they say that this sentence is to be taken out of the Creede Ministers of Anhalt apud Hospin in Concordia discordi fol. 87. The Diuines of Berge haue done well that through ours and other mens admonitions they haue put out the article of the descent into Hell THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely affirmeth that Christs soule was in Hell and our Creed saieth that he descended into Hell The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely denie that Christs soule descended to Hell went to the places of Hell and say that the descent of Christ into Hell is a Popish
Ether the doores of themselues opened to Christ or he passed through the walls Piscator in Respons ad Buscherum c. 13. As if it were not more probable that Christ by his diuine power did open the shut doores More of their like sayings may be seene in my Latin booke chapt 2. art 23. THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that Christ entred to his disciples the doores being shut and when the doores were shut The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that the doores were not shut in the instant of Christs entrance that Christ truely opened the doores that the doores of themselues opened and gaue place Which doctrin diuers Protestants confesse to be contrarie to Scripture See lib. 2. c. 30. ART XXIV WHETHER CHRIST PENEtrated the Heauens SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Hebrews 4. v. 14. Hauing therefore a great high Preist that Christ penetrated the Heauenes hath penetrated the Heauens Iesus the Sonne of God CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME C. Bellarm. l. 3. de Euchar. c. 6. It cannot be temerariously saied of the bodie of Christ that the Heauens were broaken when he ascended to his Father PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Vorstius in Antibellarm p 402. The question is begged in Did not penetrate heauē all the examples which are bought to proue penetration of quantites whereas in truth no such thing is any where redde in Scripture Spalatensis lib. 5. de Republic cap. 6. num 182. I admit no penetration Gualterus in Ioan. 20. calleth it a monstruous new doctrin to say that twoe bodies can be at once in the same place Tilenus in Syntagm cap. 8. saieth that Christ ascended without penetration of quantities And the Ministers in the Conference at Paris 1588. affirmed that he could not ascend but renting and breaking the Heauens THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely teacheth that Christ penetrated the Heauens The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely teach that in Scripture there is no example of penetration that they admit no penetration that it is a monstruous new doctrin that Christ ascended without penetration and could not ascend but by renting the heauens ART XXV WHETHER CHRISTS DO IN heauen pray for vs SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Ihon 14. ver 16. And I will aske the Father and he will giue Christ our aduocate with the Father Maketh incession for vs. you an other Paraclete 1. Ihon 2. v. 1. But and if any man shall sinne we haue an aduocate with the Father Iesus Christ the iust Rom. 8. vers 34. Christ Iesus that died yea that is risen also againe who is on the right hand of God who also maketh intertercession for vs. Hebrews 7. v. 25. Whereby he is able to saue also for euer going by himselfe to God alwaies liuing to make intercession for vs. CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME C. Bellarm. l. 1. de Sanctis c. 20. Christ praieth for all Et. l. 2. de Missa c. 8. Christ is our onely immediate intercessor with his Father Tolet in Ihon. 16. Annot. 35. The holie Fathers teach that Christ in heauen as man praieth his Father for vs albeit some denie it but improbably PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Peter Martyr in 1. Corint 13. But they must know that Christs intercessiō with the Father for vs is nothing else but that Christs intercession nothing but c he is alwaies present with the Father and that by his prosence because he was deliuered to death for vs Gods mercie towards the elect is most speedily obtained Caluin in Ioan. 16. v. 26. But when it is saied that Christ praieth for vs to his Father we must not imagin any carnall thing of him as if falling at his Fathers fect he humblie made Maketh not būble praier praier but the vertue of his Sacrifice wherewith he once pacified God to vs being euer of force this effectuall blood with which he clensed our sinnes and the obedience which he performed are a continuall intercession for vs. And in Rom. 8. v. 34. he saieth that because his death and resurrection are in steed of an eternall intercession and haue the efficacie of a liuely praier he is saied to intercede for vs. The like hath Perkins de Serie Causarum to 1. col 21. Bezain Confess c. 4. sect 16. Nether therefore may we imagin Praieth not as a Suppliāt that Christ as a Suppliant praieth for vs but he reconcileth vs to the Father by the perpetuall odour of his onely sacrifice and maketh our praiers effectuall before God Bucanus in Instit Theol. loco 35. Christ not by a gesture or praier as casting himselfe at his Fathers feet doth humbly pray for vs but both by the merite and vertue of his death and also by offering our praiers to the Father The like say others as may be seene in my Latin booke c. 2. art 25. THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that Christ in heauen is our aduocate asketh for vs maketh intercession for vs. The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that Christs intercession is nothing else but his presence with his Father that he doth not humbly make praier for vs that his death and resurrection are in steed of praier that he praieth not for vs as a Suppliant that he doth not humbly pray for vs. A SVMME OF THIS CHAPTER OF CHRIST In the former Chapter we shewed that Protestants crie that we make a new God and that this fault rather falleth vpon them now we will shew that they obiect the like vnto vs concerning Christ and that themselfes are faultie therein M. Perkins in Cathol reform Controu 9. cap. 11. thus writeth of Catholiks They worshippe an other Christ then we doe And in Conflictu Christi cum Diabolo tom 2. col 130. The Papists Christ is a feigned Christ In Apocal. 2. col 189. The Papists Christ is a false Christ yea Protestants new Christ an idol of Christ But out of that which hath beene related in this chapter it will appeare that the Catholiks Christ is the true Christ described vnto vs by the Scripture and that the Protestants Christ is a quite different and opposite Christ For the Christ which Scripture and Catholiks propose is as he is man to be worshipped to be called vpon head of the Church lawmaker iudge can forgiue sinnes worke miracles None of which things agree to the Protestants Christ According to Protestants Christ as man was ignorant most truely a sinner was afraied of his saluation but not according to Catholiks According to Scripture and Catholiks Christ merited some thing for himselfe truely merited our redemption and that by his bodilie death or blood nether was his blood corrupted but according to Protestants he merited nothing for himselfe merited not our redemption with a iust price but by acceptation of his Father nor by his corporall death but by some greater matter and his blood was corrupted nor is now any more in being According to the Scripture and Catholiks Christ died for the wicked for the damned for all descended into hell was free
Virtue their power whiles they denie that they are capable of power to worke miracles steale away their perfect iustice in denying that they are perfectly iust or perfectly do the will of God Robbe them of their honour because they Honor. denie that we may honour them imitate them pray to them or pray to God in their names They spoile them Dignitie of their dignitie in saying that God doth not any good vnto vs for their merits or good deeds They bereaue Knowledge them of their knowledge in saying that they know not any thing that is done on earth They robbe them of Charitie their charitie because they say that they pray not for vs ether in generall or in particular haue no care of vs not exercise any offices of charitie towards vs. Finally they Happines take from them their heauenly felicitie because they teach that they enioy not that vntill the day of iudgment And hitherto we haue spoaken of those who are in heauē now let vs speake of these things which are on earth and first of the word of God CHAPTER IV. OF THE VVORD OF GOD OR SCRIPTVRE ART I. WHETHER ANIE PLACES OF Scripture be hard to be vnderstood SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. PETER 3. vers 16. As our most deere Some places of Scripture hard to be vnderstood brother Paul according to the wisdome giuen him hath written to you as also in all his epistles speaking in them of these things in the which are certaine things hard to be vnderstood which the vnlearned and vnstable depraue CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY DENIE D. Stapleton in Ioan. 17. v. 20. Catholiks denie that all the Scripture is plaine and cleare PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Whitaker Controu 1. q. 4. c. 3. p. 337. Peter saieth not that Paules epistles are obscure no nor that there are some obscure things in Paules epistles And c. 4. p. 340. It is manifest that the Scriptures are easie to be vnderstood And he addeth that the whole will of God which is declared in his whole word and Scriptures and the whole Scripture is easie The same he saieth p. 341. Of the whole Scripture of the vniuersall Scripture and whole word of God Luther l. de seru arbit to 2. fol. 426. It is spred abrode by No place of Scripture hard the impious Sophisters that there are some things obscure in the Scripture and that all things are not laied open Fol. 427. There is nothing at all left obscure or ambiguous but all things are brought into most cleare light by the word and declared to the whole world whatsoeuer is in Scripture And fol. 440. I speake of the whole Sripture I will not haue anie parte of it to be saied to be obscure The like he hath Postilla in festo S. Iacobi fol. 430. and Cont. Cocleum to 2. fol. 410. Neuer any thing was vttered more simply more purely more clearely more easily then the word of God Praefat. Assert art The Scripture is by it selfe No booke more cleare then the Scriture the most certaine the most easie the most cleare interpreter of it selfe prouing iudging and lightning all things And in psalm 37. to 3. fol. 10. If anie of them say that we need the Fathers interpretation the Scriptures are obscure Thou shalt answere That is false No booke in the whole world is most clearely writtē then the holie Scripture which compared to all other bookes is like the Sunne before all other lights Gerlachius disputat 1. tom 1. pag. 9. We say that the whole Scripture is so cleare as it needeth no interpretation at all Zanchius de Scriptura tom 8. col 408. How then can the Scripture be saied obscure in anie parte thereof col 409. If the Scripture be obscure in no parte as before we haue shewed much lesse in those things which are necessarie to saluation And l. 1. Epistol pag. 98. The places of holie Scripture from whence the decrees of Christian religion are drawne are so plaine and manifest as they need no more diligent or clearer exposition Serranus cont Hayum part 3. p. 267. saieth that there is not anie ambiguitie or obscuritie in the matter or words of the Scripture And p. 269. that the Lord hath plainly laied open in the Scripture all the misteries of our saluation Manie more of their like sayings may be seene in my Latin booke cap. 4. art 1. CONFERENCE OF THE FORESAIED WORDS Scripture expressely saieth that in S. Paules epistles there be some things hard to be vnderstood The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that the Scripture saieth not that there are some obscure things in S. Pauls epistles that the Scripture the whole scripture is easie that the whole scripture is so cleare as it needeth no interpretation at all that no parte of it is obscure that all things are cleare whatsoeuer is in the word and declared to the whole world that the Scripture is the easiest and clearest interpreter of it selfe that no booke in the whole world is so cleare as the Scripture and that being compared to them it is like the Sunne to other lights Which are so manifestly contrarie to Scripture as Protestants thēselues sometimes confesse it See lib. 2. c. 30. ART II. WHETHER SCRIPTVRE CAN BE vnderstood without the light of the holie Ghost SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY DENIETH. 2. Peter 1. v. 20. Vnderstanding this first that no prophetie Scripture not vnderstood of our selues or exposition of Scripture is made by priuat interpretation Matth. 13. v. 11. To you it is giuen to know the misteries of the kingdome of heauen but to them it is not giuen Luc. 24. v. 45. Then he opened their vnderstanding that they might vnderstand the Scriptures CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY DENIE D. Stapleton l. 11. de Principijs c. 2. The spirit of God of whome the vnderstanding of the Scriptures is to be asked and giuen is not to be sought in the Scriptures themselues PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Whitaker l. 1. de Scriptura c. 12. sect 8. The Scriptures may Scripture not vnderstood by onely reading without the holie Ghost be known by onely reading l. 2. c. 8. sect 16. I say that the Scriptures may be vnderstood before faith and without faith Againe But if thou thinkest that the Scriptures cannot be vnderstood at all without peculiar lightning of the holie Ghost thou art in a great errour And Controu 1. q. 6. c. 13. For so much as appertaineth to the knowledge of the letter the Church hath no priuiledge Morton in Apol. part 2. l. 5. c. 10. Anie one though neuer so Anie may vnderstand the Scripture so impious may search the Scriptures to knowledge though not to wisdome that is to the knowledge of truth though not to the attayning of saluation Beza l. de notis Eccles vol. 3. p. 137. But for to vnderstand what the Prophets and Apostles haue in summe thought and thought of euerie article of our religion there needeth onely a wit not wholy dull
properly Bishops THE CONFERENCE The Scripture expressely saieth that Iudas had the office of a Bishop which an other Apostle tooke The same say Catholiks The Protestants say that Iudas was no Bishop THE SVMME OF THIS CHAPTER OF SAINT Peter and the Apostles Out of that which hath beene rehearsed in this chapter it clearly appeareth that the Protestāts in an other māner describe S. Peter and the Apostles thē the holie Scripture and Catholiks doe For the Scripture and Catholiks teach that S. Peter was first of the Apostles that he was the rock on which Christ built his Church that he had the keyes of the kingdome of heauen that his faith did not faile All which Protestants denie Besides the Scripture and Catholiks say that the Apostles were foundations of the Church were simply to heard without examining their doctrine were sufficient witnesses of trueth learnt diuers things of the holie Ghost All which are denied by Prorestants Moreouer the Scripture and Catholiks say that Iudas was truely a disciple and Apostle of Christ and also a Bishop which Protestants in like manner denie Wherefore Protestants steale from S. Peter his honour that he is the first of the Apostles his authoritie that he is the rock of the Church and his power of the keyes and stedfastnesse of faith And frō the rest of the Apostles they steale that they were foundations of the Church simply to be hearde sufficient witnesses of truth and that they learnt any thing of the holie Ghost CHAPTER VI. OF PASTORS OF THE CHVRCH ART I. WHETHER THERE BE ALwaies pastors of the Church SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. HIEREMIE 33. v. 21. Thus saieth the Lord If my Pastours alwaies couenant with the day can be made voide and my couenant with the night that there be no day and night in their time also my couenant may be made voide with Dauid my seruant that there be not of him a sonne to reigne in his throne and leuites and preists my ministers Ephes 4. v. 12. And he gaue Pastours and Doctours to the consummation of the saintes vnto the worke of the ministeric vnto the edifying of the bodie of Christ vntill we meete all into the vnitie of faith and knowledge of the Sonne of God CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME D. Stapleton in 1. Cor. 15. v. 15. Impious Caluin doth bouldly and often times say that Pastours Doctours Prelats Bishops Maisters of Churches all vniuersally for manie ages haue wholy straied from the Christian trueth and beene seducers PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Luther in psal 129. to 3. The Church vnder Antichrist had no true ministerie Caluin de vera reform p. 322. Not without cause we auouch Not alwaies that for some ages the Church was so torne and scattered that it was destitute of true Pastours And p. 322. I graunt indeed that it can neuer come to passe that the Church perish but when they referre that to Pastours which is promised of the perpetuall continuance of the Church therein they are much deceaued Beza de notis Eccles vol. 3. Forsooth it fell out that the lawfull order was then wholy abolished in the Church as it is manifest that it hath beene now for some ages not so much being left as the smalleste shadow of the cheifest partes of ecclesiasticall vocation Sadeel ad Art abiurat pag. 533. It is false that the externall ministerie must be perpetuall Daneus Controu 3. p. 426. The Church eftsones hath no man Postour And Controu 4. p. 757. The true Church hath ofte wanted Prelats Lukbertus l. 5 de Eccles cap. 5. We say that for some short time the Church may be depriued of Pastours CONFERENCE OF THE FORESAIED WORDS Scripture expressely saieth that there shal be Pastours as long as there shal be day and night that Pastours are giuen vntill we meete all in one faith The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that the Church may be depriued of Pastours that Pastours may perish that the ministerie must not be perpetuall that the Church sometime had no true ministerie was for some ages destitute of true Pastors that lawfull order was for some ages quite abolished in the Church not so much as the slēderest shadow of the chiefest partes of ecclesiasticall vocation being left Which are so plaine against Scripture as sometimes Protestants confesse it See l. 2. c. 30. ART II. WHETHER AVTHORITIE of gouerning the Church be in the Pastours them selues SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Matth. 16. v. 18. seq Thou art Peter c. And to thee I will giue Pastours haue authoritie to gouerne the keyes of the kingdome of heauen Actes 20. v. 28. The Holie Ghost hath placed you Bishops to rule the Church of God 1. Cor. 4. v. 21. What will you In a rodde that I come to you or in charitie and the spirit of mildnesse 2. Cor. 13. v. 10. These things I write absente that being present I may not deale hardly according to the power which the Lord hath giuen me And c. 10. v. 6. Hauing in readinesse to reuenge all disobedience 2. Tim. 1. v. 11. I am appointed a preacher and Apostle and Maister of the Gentils Hebrews 13. vers 17. Obey your Prelats and be subiect to them CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME D. Stapleton in Triplicat cont Whitaker c. 13. We see that Paul putteth the authoritie in the Prelats PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Whitaker l. 1. de Script c. 13. sect 12. The authoritie is not Authoritie is not in the Pastours in the Prelats but in the worde for whose administration the Prelats do serue Againe I acknowledge no ruling which the Church hath All the authoritie is in God and in his word the Church hath nothing but mere ministerie Spalatensis l. 5. de Repub c. 2. n. 40. Church gouernours are most like to Phisitiās The Phisitian appointeth holesome things and forbiddeth vnholesome prescribeth diete c. but hath no They haue no iurisdiction iurisdiction or cōmand ouer the sick As it is the Phisitians office to gouerne the sick that is without iurisdiction So it is the office of the ecclesiasticall rectors to gouerne the Church that is the faithfull Caluin 4. Instit c. 8. § 2. We must remember that what authoritie or dignitie the Holie Ghost in the Scripture doth giue to Preists or Prophets or Apostles or Successours of Apostles all that is giuen not properly to the men themselues but to the ministerie whereof they are officers or to speake brefly to the word whose ministerie is committed to them The same he hath in Ioan. 16. v. 8. in Math. 20. v. 25. and in Iacob 4. v. 12. Beza in Math. 20. v. 25. What then will you say Haue the No power at all ouer consciences Ministers of the word of God no power at all None truely they no not ouer cōsciences for instructiō whereof they are appointed But they are legats of Christ to say and doe in his name sacred not ciuill matters who alone hath all right of commanding and
that what the Scripture simply saieth is the bodie and blood of Christ Protestāts say is onely ostensiuely or in shew onely figurasiuely by resemblance and no otherwaies but metonymically not properly no otherwise then a keye is a house is the bodie and blood of Christ Fourthly they cōtradict the holie Scripture in that they denie that Christs bodie is present in the Supper in the Eucharist in the Eucharisticall bread or in the Sacrament in which according to Christs words it was so present as he badde his Apostles take it with their hands and eate it The Pseudosynod of London in Hospin part 2. Histor d. 220. No faithfull man ought to beleiue or professe the reall Reall presence not to be beleiued Christs bodie not in the Sacrament Not present in substance and substantiall presence of Christs flesh in the Eucharist Whitaker in Respons ad Demonstr Sanderi pag. 741. Christs bodie is not in the Sacrament nor in infinite Sacraments Iuel Defens Apol. p. 221. Thus is Christs bodie present not really nor in suhstance but onely in misterie Agayne As Christ is present in the one Sacrament of Baptisme euen so and none otherwise is he present in the other of the Eucharist which Absent in bodie he repeateth p. 264. And p. 234. Christ is present in maiestie absent in bodie 272. By abuse of speech they say the bodie of As the people in the Cuppe Christ is laied vpon the table 273. As people is in the Cuppe so is Christs blood in the Cuppe The like he hath artic 8. diuis As he dieth in the Sacrament 1 And art 12. diuis 14. As Christ dyeth in the Sacrament so is his bodie present in the Sacrament Perkins in his Ref. Cathol Contr. 10 ca. 1. We hould and Present as a thing to the name teach that Christs bodie and blood are not present with the bread and wine in respect of place of coexistence but by Sacramentall relation or this manner When a word is vttered the same comes to the eare and at the same instāt the thing signified comes to the mynde and thus by relation the word and the thing spoaken of are both present together Zuinglius in Respons ad Propos Eckij to 2. fol. 576. of this proposition The true and liuelie bodie of Christ and his blood are present in the Sacrament if the Altar Maketh this Not present in the Sacrament censure This proposition is nether pious nor Christian Serm. 1. Bernae fol. 527. Three articles of Christian faith directly fight against the presence of the bodie and blood of Christ in the Supper Not in the Supper Present by cōtemplation In Respons ad Lutherum fol. 363. By contemplation Christ is in the Eucharist 420. As for substance there is nothing present besides bread and wine 456. We willingly graunt and confesse that Christs bodie is in the Supper in the same manner As our bodies are in heauen that our bodies are now in heauen And in epist ad Principes fol. 546. Seing all this presence is nothing without the speculation Present by speculation of faith it belongeth to faith that these things are or be made present And apud Hospin part 2. Histor fol. 102. I By contemplation beleiue that in the Supper of the Eucharist Christs true bodie is present by contemplation of faith that is that they who giue thāks to the Lord for the guifts giuen vs in his Sonne do acknowledge him to haue taken true flesh truely to haue suffered in it truely to haue wiped away our sinnes with his blood and so that all the matter done by Christ is made as it were present by contemplation of faith But that Christs bodie should be really and in substance present we do not onely denie but auouch to be an error Tigurini in Hospin part 2. fol. 161. The sacramentall vnion By signification wholy consisteth in significatiō And in Scusselburg l. 1. Theol. Caluin art 21. The bodie and blood of Christ are by mere imagination By mere imagination in the Sacrament of the Supper And Carolstadius ib. art 20. The bodie of Christ is not in the Supper Christ is not in Not in the Supper the Sacrament nether can be in it Caluin 4. Instit c. 17. § 30. Whereas our Mediatour is euerie where whole he is alwaies present to his seruants and in the Supper affor deth himselfe present in a speciall manner but so as he is whole there not wholy * Totus nō totum because in his flesh he is contained in heauen vntill he come to iudgment In Defens 2. cont Westphal p. 774. I saied that Christs bodie is exhibited Not present in substance effectually in the Supper not naturally according to vertue not according to substance Se more ib. p. 778. 779 In Consens de re Sacrament art 25. It must needs be that Christs bodie be As farre frō vs as heauen from carth as farre distant from vs as heauen is from earth Which Beza often times repeateth as cont Brent vol. 1. pag. 574. De hypostat vnione pag. 638. lib. quaest resp pag. 673. Resp ad Andream pag. 130. Apol. 1. cont Sainctem p. 302. Resp ad Repetit eiusdem c. 10. p. 50. also Daneus cont Kemnit c. 30. and others Beza cont Heshus vol. 1. p. 278. We say not that Christs Not present in the bread bodie is present in the bread Respons ad Acta Torgensia vol. 368. We may easily vnderstand and declare out of the word the sacramentall manner of presence to wit such as the thing signified Present as the abiect is the thought is offered to the vnderstanding to be knowne and approued and by faith to be embraced and applied to the beleiuer And epist 76. What this presence is we clearly vnderstand and perceaue out of the word of God to wit such as the thing thought vpon is present to our thought and the thing beleiued is present to faith And as Grauerus in Absurdis Caluin cap. 3. § 43. saieth This presence he plainely putteth in imagination Present in imagination Zanchius in Hospin l. cit f. 316. Touching the presence of Christs bodie in the Supper I protest that I do not willingly dispute No ward of presence in the Scripture of it because I read no word of it in Scripture The like he hath l. 2. Epist p. 69. and 89. Peter Martyr in Schusselburg l. 3. Theol. Caluin art 8. I remoue the presence of Christs bodie from the Eucharist And l. Presence remoued from the Eucharist cont Gardiner col 815. The presence of Christs bodie in heauen directly feighteth with the presence thereof in the Sacrament col 994. If besides signification he will that there is a reall presence No presence besides signification that we altogether denie More of their like speaches may be seene in my Latin booke c. 10. art 1. But by these it is
cleare that they say that Christs bodie is not in the sacrament is not present in the Sacrament is not in substance present is absent in bodie is not in the Sacrament nor can be in it is not in the Supper according to substāce is not present in the bread is remoued from the Eucharist that there is no word in the scripture of the presence of Christs bodie in the Supper that his blood is in the chalice as the people are there that he is no otherwise in the Eucharist then in baptisme that he is not there otherwise then a thing is present to our cogitation or a thing to the name thereof or our bodies are now present in heauen finally onely present by speculation and mere imagination Fiftly they contradict the Scripture by saying that no other thing is receaued in the Eucharist or Supper then in baptisme or in the simple word Caluin cont Heshus p. 860. There is no cause why Christ No more present in the Supper then in baptisme Then in the word should be saied to be more present in the Supper then in baptisme p. 847. Surely there is a plaine solution That God giueth not more to the visible symbols then to the word Therefore communication is no lesse truely giuen vs by the Ghospell then by the Supper 4. Instit c. 14. § 14. He is deceaued who thinketh that any thing more is giuen him by the Sacraments then which offered by the word of God he receaueth by true faith § 17 There is no other function of the Sacraments then of the word of God And c. 16. § 5. he saieth that the Sacrament is inferiour to the word Beza in Colloq Montisbel p. 136. There is the same receauing of Christ in the Sacrament which is in the simple word In 2. part respons ad Acta Colloq p. 109. Nothing more is to be sought in the Sacraments then in simple word l. cont Heshus p. 287. Nothing more is giuen in the Supper then in baptisme or in the preaching of the word Bucer in Hospin l. cit p. 161. The memorie of this bodie may More in the word then in the Sacramēt be refreshed by the bread but more fully by the word Peter Martyr in 1. Cor. 11. This is the summe that we vnderstand the bodie and blood of Christ to be offered to vs no lesse by the words of God then by Sacraments In Disput Oxonien pag. 225. We receaue no lesse the bodie and blood of Christ in the word of God then in this Sacrament And cont Gardiner col 1041. I denie not that that is our speach Christs bodie is receaued no lesse in words then in the Sacraments Nether am I afraied to say that we come much better to them by words then by Sacraments Willet Cont. 11. q. 3. c. 557. There is the same substance of both Sacraments Iuel art 5. diuis 5. The word of God is the bodie and blood of Christ and that more truely then is the Sacrament Art 21. diu 1. As Christ entreth into vs by a minister by his word euen so he entreth into vs by the Sacrament of his bodie and no otherwise Defense of the Apol. p. 221. As Christ is present in the one Sacramēt euen so and no otherwise is he present in the other Hereupon Apologia Confess Augustanae cap. de vsu Sacrament saieth that the Sacrament is as it were a picture of the word Melancthon in Disputat tom 4. pag. 513. The Sacrament is like a picture of the promise And lib. contr Anabaptistas As the will of God is shewed in the worde or promise so also it is shewed in the Sacrament as in a picture And oftentimes they say that there is no other presence of Christs bodie in the Eucharist then there is in the simple word as you may see in Beza Apol. 1. cont Sanctem p. 297. in Hospin l. cit fol. 36. 39. and in Concordia discordi f. 205. So that they plainly say that Christ is no more present in the Supper then in baptisme no more cōmunicated in the Supper thē in the Ghospell no more receaued in the Sacramēt them in the word that there is the same receauing of Christ in the Sacrament and in the simple word nothing more giuē in the Supper them in preaching no more offered by the sacrament then by the word yea that the Sacrament is inferiour to the word the memorie of Christs bodie more fully refreshed by the word then by this Sacrament that we may better come to Christs bodie by words then by this Sacrament Which are so contrarie to Scripture as sometimes themselues confesse it See lib. 2. cap. 30. Sixtly they contradict the holie Scripture whiles they say that they Iewes receaued Christs bodie before it was borne as truely as we receaue it in the Eucharist Willet Cont. 11. q. 2. p. 544. We do hould and constantly affirme The Fathers no lesse receaued the bodie of Christ thou we and teach that the Fathers in the law receaued no lesse the substance of Christ by faith in their Sacraments then we do in ours Christ was as well exhibited to them in their Sacraments as he is in ours Beza in Colloq Montisbel p. 96. He was as present in their Sacraments as he is to vs in ours p. 69. The Fathers were no lesse partakers of the bodie and blood of Christ then we are in the Lords Supper Respons ad Acta Colloq p. 119. The Fathers as truely receaued Christs true bodie and true blood in the word and in their Sacraments as we by the instrument of the same faith now receaue them Peter Martyr cont Gardiner col 150. The Fathers in the ould testament did no lesse then we eate and drinke the bodie and blood of Christ for so much as pertaineth to the thing it selfe Seuenthly they contradict the holie Scripture in saying that the Eucharist is a symbolicall mysticall and Sacramentall bodie of Christ which the Scripture plainely saieth to be his true bodie Zuinglius de ver falsa relig c. de Euchar. to 2. f. 208. We are here compelled plainely to confesse that this selfe same which Christ gaue with so great diligence and maiestie is his symbolicall Christs symbolicall bodie Sacramentall bodie bodie Respons ad Luther ib. fol. 514. It is easie to vnderstand that this bread which Christ giueth vs is Christs sacramentall bodie that is the signe of his bodie in that manner and forme of speach wherewith shewing the statue of Cocles we say Behould Cocles that stout champion of his countrie Epistola ad Principes fol. 548. The bread is made the sacramentall bodie of Christ Againe Our aduersaries say that Christs naturall and substantiall bodie is giuen we say his sacramentall Hereupon the contention And in Hospin l. cit fol. 143. We are forced will we nill we to confesse that these words This is Misticall bodie my bodie are thus to be vnderstood that is A sacrament of my bodie
promise wil be abrogated In Philippen 1. ver 28. Certainly the Scripture no where teacheth that the afflictions which the Saintes suffer of the wicked are cause of their saluation Beza in Confess c. 4. sect 19. For these things are not so to be vnderstood as if our workes were cause of our saluation ether wholy or in parte Peter Martyr in Rom. 9. God workes are no true cause of eternall saluation Zanchius l. 5. de Natura Dei cap. 2. q. 7. The workes of the godlie are no true causes of euerlasting happines but onely the meanes by which as it were by degrees the elect are mercifully ledde into the euerlasting and heauenlie cittie Pareus libr. 4. de Iustificat cap. 7. Our aduersarie concludeth false that the kingdome of heauen is giuen for good workes Tilenus in Syntagmate cap. 48. Good workes in respect of No cause at all saluation can be no cause at all THE CONFERENCE Scripture plainely teacheth not onely that we shall possesse the kingdome of heauen because we haue done good workes that we shall reape life euerlasting of the spirit that the soule liueth for iustification that sorrow according to God worketh saluation that afflictiction worketh glorie and is cause of saluation but also in the same manner saieth that the elect shall possesse heauen because they haue done good deeds as it saieth that the reprobats shall goe into euerlasting fire because they haue done ill deeds So it saieth that the soule liueth for iustification as it saieth the bodie dieth for sinne In like sorte it saieth that sorrow according to God maketh saluation as it saieth that sorrow of the world worketh death Euen in the same sorte it saieth that of sowing in spirit we shall reap life euerlasting as it saieth that of sowing in flesh we shall reape corruption And in the same kind of speach saieth that persecution is cause of saluation to those who suffer it as it saieth that it is cause of damnation to those who make it The same say Catholiks Protestants plainely say that affliction is not cause of saluation that the heauenlie in heritance cometh not to vs by workes that the life is not giuen for good workes that we are not rewarded for good workes not saued for workes that saluation dependeth not of workes that workes are no way cause saluation are no cause of it ether wholy or in parte Which do so plainely contradict the Scripture as therefore Illyricus is forced to reproue the Scripture For this he writeth in Claue tractat 6. cit tit de varia bonorum operum praedicat col 551. We heare that toto great effects and praises yea euen saluation it selfe is attributed of the Scripture to good workes It manifestly appeareth that very often to much paise is giuen by Scripture to good workes which doth not agree to them nor is to be attributed if we will speake exactly truely and properly Behould how plainely he saieth that Scripture attributeth to great effects vnto good workes attributeth saluation vnto them attributeth very oftentime to much praise vnto them and such effects as agree not to them nor are to be be attributed to them if we will speake truely But surely if the Scripture attributeth to much to good workes and that which doth not agree to them and which is not to be attributed to them if we will speake truely the Scripture in so doing doth falsely But whether the Scripture or Illyricus know better what is to be attributed to good workes let Christians iudge ART XVI WHETHER GOOD WORKES be a testimonie of iustice and predestination SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. 1. Ioan. 2. ver 5. But he that keepeth his word in him in By good workes we know we are in God That we are translated from death God workes make election sure very deed the charitie of God is perfited in this we know that we be in him cap. 3. ver 14. We know that we are translated from death to life because we loue the brethren And ver 21. If our hart do not reprehend vs we haue confidence towards God 2. Peter 1. vers 10. Wherefore brethren labour the more that by good workes you may make sure your vocation and election CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME D. Stapleton in Rom. 9. ver 11. If we beleiue Saint Peter the certaintie of our saluation and consequently of the election is concluded in doing of good workes not in the onely purpose of God PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Confessio Wittenbergensis C. de Confess We know that Workes make but doubt and despaire if we looke vnto our workes we should not onely doubt but also despaire of our saluation Ministri Electorales in Colloq Aldeburg pag. 427. We No certaintie by good must certainely determine out of the word of God deliuered and proposed vnto vs and not out of the feeling of infused newnesse of life as it were by an effect that by faith freely for and by Châ—ist we haue remission of sinnes Caluin 3. Instit c. 2. § 38. If we must iudge by workes how God is affected toward vs I confesse that we can haue but a small ghesse all it De necessitate reform pag. 47. What shall man A small ghesse by workes Matter of doubt and despaire Of trembling find in his workes but matter of doubting and at length of despairing And in Antidot Concili Sess 6. cap. 8. As long as we looke what we are we must tremble before God so farre are we from hauing certaine and vnshaken hope of eternall life In Rom. 4. v. 14. We are vtterly lost and vndone if we be sent to our workes when we must seeke the cause or certaintie of our saluation In 1. Ioan. 3. v. 22. Woe to vs if we looke to our workes Nothing but matter of feare which haue nothing in them but matter of feare Pareus lib. 1. de Iustificat cap. 10. The trust of remission of sinnes nether dependeth nor riseth of a good conscience l. 3. c. 2. Our faith and trust doth reape nothing of our owne disposition but feare of deceit doubt and anxietie Et l. 4. p. 625. Of our owne Of doubt and anxietie accord we graunt that if faith must relie vpon inherent iustice we must not onely doubt of grace and iustice but also perpetually tremble THE CONFERENCE Scripture plainely saieth that we know that we are in God by keeping of his word that we know we are translated from death to life because we loue our brethren that we haue trust toward God if our hart do not reprehend vs that we make our vocation and election certaine by good workes The same say Catholiks Protestants plainely say that by workes we haue no certaine trust that trust nether dependeth nor riseth of a good conscience that by workes we cannot haue anie small ghesse how God is affected towards vs that we are vndone if we must seeke the certaintie of our saluation out of workes that in workes is nothing found
of Of it selfe nether good nor badde workes which of themseues are nether properly good nor badde Of this kind is fasting sobrietie and desire of keeping virginitie in those who haue the guift of continencie And c. 5. sect 39. Nether virginitie nor marriage we reckon amongst those things which simply and of theÌ„selues make vs better and more gratefull to God Daneus Contr. 5. p. 1045. Virginitie is no vertue but a thing No vertue indifferent And generally all Protestants when the Apostle calleth virginitie good in Greek 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 will not haue him vnderstood of a good that is honest or vertuous but onely of a good that is profitable THE CONFERENCE Scripture plainely saieth that virginitie is honest that it is a holines in bodie and soule that it is better and happier then marriage and that it is to be desired for the kingdome of heauen Catholiks say the same Protestants plainely say that virginitie is a thing indifferent is nothing not simply good not good of it nature not of it selfe a vertue not simply good not a vertue not wholy to be desired not required of God and in the religious a diuelish thing ART III. WHETHER THE STATE OF virginitie be better then the state of marriage SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. 1. Cor. 7. v. 38. He that ioyneth his virgin in matrimonie doth Virginitie better then marriage well and he that toyneth not doth better ver 40. More blessed shall she be if she so remaine CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Councel of Trent Sess 24. Can. 10. If anie shall say that it is not better and happier to abide in virginitie or single life then to marrie be he accursed PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Whitaker ad Ration 8. Campiani Virginitie is neuer better Not better then marriage but in some sorte Marriage is often times simply better then virginitie Willet Controuers 15. quaest 5. pag. 806. Virginitie is Not more holie not a more holie and cleane thing in it selfe then marriage is before God in themselues nether is more holie then ether Confessio Witten bergeÌ„sis C. de votis We must not thinke Not more excellent that this kinde of single life is of selfe before the iudgment seat of God more excellent and more holie then marriage Luther Serm de Matrimonio to 5. f. 126. Single life in it Much more baste thou marriage Marriage a most diuine state selfe is much more baser then marriage And fol. 124. he calleth marriage a diuine life in 1. Cor. 7. f. 107. the highest religion and most spirituall state 107. truely heauenly spirituall and diuine state if it be compared with this spirituall state Againe We conclude that marriage is like gould and this spirituall state dung In Genes 2. to 6. fol. 26. To beget children is after preaching To get children is the cheifest worke of the word of God the cheifest worke And in c. 21. fol. 257. Married mens life consisteth in the highest degree of spirituall life Vrbanus Regius in locis to 1. f. 345. Preaching of the word Virginitie in it selfe baser then marriage of God maketh the state of virginitie better then marriage by reason of greater impediments which yet in it selfe is baser Bindebachius in Consensu cit p. 799. If you consider these kinds of life virginitie and marriage by themselues they are indifferent and before God nether is more holie then the other Caluin in 1. Cor. 7. v. 35. Here thou hast twoe things worth noting The one is to what end single life is to be desired to wit not for it selfe nor because it is a perfiter state In like manner Beza vpon the same place Serranus cont Hayum part 3. p. 159. If marriage be the Nothing better then mar-marriage seminarie of mankind if the ornament if the stay as all the Polititians euer taught can ther be any thing better or more excellent in life then marriage THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that virginitie is better and more happie then marriage The same say Catholiks Protestants expressâ—ly teach that virginitie is not a perfecter state theÌ„ marriage not more holie not more excellent that it is baser then marriage much baser that marriage is the highâ—â—â— religion most spirituall state and that in this life nothing is better or more excellent then marriage What religion I pray you haue these men whose cheife religion and most spirituall state is marriage and who account nothing in this life better then marriage to beget children the cheifest worke beside preaching ART IV. WHETHER GOD WOVLD haue men to liue single SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. 1. Cor. 7. v. 7. I would all men to be as my selfe Et v. 27. Art God exhorteth all to single life thou loose from a wife seeke not a wife Math. 19. v. 12 He that can take let him take Apocalips 14. v. 4. These are they which were not defiled with weomen For they are virgins These follow the lambe whether soeuer he shall goe CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME D. Stapleton in 1. Corinth 7. vers 8. The Spirit of God by the mouth of the Apostle exhorteth to constant virginitie and single life PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Luther in Disput to 1. f. 383. The word Increase and multiplie All commaÌ„ded to increase is naturally ingrafted and necessarily imposed generally vpon all that are men De votis to 2. f. 272. Plainely Christ did not counsaill virginitie but rather discouraged In 1. Cor 7. to 5. f. 105. Paul will haue vniuersally all to be married Serm. de Matrimonio S. Paul will haue all married f. 119. Increase and multiplie is not a precept but more theÌ„ a precept He is a baud that flieth marriage Epistola in Wofgangum to 7. f. 505. God pronounceth the sentence that he will God will haue none vnmarried haue none to be vnmarried but multiplie He that will liue vnmarried plainely fighteth against God To take a wife and to eate and drinke both alike are inforced by necessitie and God commandeth a like both to be done Et Epistol ad Equites Teuto 2. To marrie as necessarie as to eate or drinke Church men commanded to marrie Preists commanded to marrie Germ. Ienen fol. 214. The word of God commandeth Church men to marrie wiues Confessio Augustana c. de Coniugio Paul saieth that such a one is be chosen Bishop as is a husband Et Apologia eiusdem cap. 15. They bidde ws shew a precept which commandeth Preists to marrie as if Preists were not men Melancthon Resp ad Acta Ratisbon to 4. Paul will haue a Preist to be married Zuinglius in Paraenesi ad Heluetos to 1. f. 114. The holie Ministers commanded to marrie And Bishops Scripture is so farre from forbidding Ministers of the Church to marrie that it commandeth it more then once fol. 115. When they heare Paul in so expresse words commanding that a Bishop be married to a wife c. Bullinger in 1. Timoth.
that by which he is iustified before God as if by onely faith we were iustified before God but yet that it were impossible to obtaine eternall saluation without workes cap. 4. in Epitome art We beleiue teach and confesse that good workes Workes wholy excluded from saltion are wholy to be excluded not onely when we treate of the iustification of faith but also when we dispute of our eternall saluation Againe We reiect and condemne these speeches Good workes are necessarie to saluation Zuinglius in Expostulat ad Lindouerum to 1. fol. 204. Faith alone saueth vs. Caluin in Rom. 10. v. 10. We are saued by faith alone In c. 1. v. 7. It is faith alone which bringeth euerlastingnesse of life Beza in Explicat Christianismi c. 8. vol. 1. pag. 199. Who Saluation relieth not vpon workes teach that mens saluation relieth vpon workes ether wholy or in some parte do plainely ouerturne all the Ghospell Pareus l. 4. de Iustif c. 4. The Ghospell promiseth saluation vnder the condition of faith alone Daneus Contr. de Baptismo c. 17. All the manner of our saluation purchased by Christ standeth in faith in him THE CONFERENCE Scripture plainely saieth that faith alone can not saue vs. The same say Catholiks Protestants plainely say that faith alone saueth alone bringeth life that by faith onely we are saued that saluation is promised vpon conditiō of faith onely that workes concurre not to saluation worke nothing to saluation are not necessarie to saluation are not holesome ART IV. WHETHER ALL MEN BOTH good and badde be to be iudged SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Apoc. 20. v. 12. And I saw the dead great and litle standing Great and litle are to be be iudged in the sight of the throne and bookes were opened and an other booke was opened which was of life and the dead were iudged of those things which were written in the bookes according to their workes And the sea gaue the dead that were in it and death and Euerie one All. hell gaue their dead that were in them and it was iudged of euerie one according to their workes 2. Cor. 5. v. 10. For we must all be manifested before the iudgmēt Euerie one seat of Christ that euerie one may receaue the proper things of the bodie according as he hath done ether good or euill Mathew 25. vers 32. And all nations shal be gathered before All nations him and he shall seperate them one from an other as the pastour seperateth the sheepe from the goates Then shall the King say to them that shal be at his right hand Come ye blessed c. Then shall he say to them also that be at his left hand Goe ye away c. Act. 10. v. 43. It is he that of God was appointed iudge of the liuing and of the dead Hebr. 22. v. 22. But you are come to mount Sion and the cittie All. of the liuing God and the iudge of all God CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Catechismus ad Parochos in Exposit Symboli Of which article that is the sense and meaning that in the last day Christ our Lord shall iudg all mankind PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Luther apud Scioppium in suo Ecclesiast c. 5. Christians Onely infidell know that onely infidels who will not receaue the Ghospell are to be iudged of Christ in the last day Let vs learne and note this Not the faithfull well that we feare not death and the last iudgment for Christ is not to come to iudge vs but he will iudge them who beleiue not Bullinger Concione 90. in Apoc. f. 163. The impious are Impious not the pious to be iudged but not the pious The good because they are iustified and absolued appeare in iudgment with glorie to iudge after their manner and fashiō the wicked but not to be iudged of anie Tilenus in Syntagmate c. 67. The elect do know that nether Not the elect their deeds nor all their words are to be called to the account of this iudgment The like say others as we haue shewed before c. 3. art 10. THE CONFERENCE Scripture plainely saieth that all the dead shal be iudged according to their workes that all must be manifested before the tribunall of Christ that all Nations shal be gathered to Christs iudgment that Christ is iudge of the quicke and the dead that God is iudge of all The same say Catholiks Protestants plainely say that the impious are to be iudged but not the pious that the good are not to be iudged of anie that onely infidels shal be iudged ART V. WHETHER THERE BE ANIE to whome seeking eternall glorie according to patience of good workes euerlasting life is rendred SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Roman 2. vers 6. and 7. Who will render to euerie man There are some such according to his workes to them truely that according to patience in good worke seeke glorie and honour and incorruption life eternall CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME D. Stapleton in Rom. 2. v. 6. cit If Christ alone shall bring those workes to which the Apostle here saieth that eternall life is rēdred he should not haue saied He will render to euerie one according to his workes but to euerie one according to Christs workes PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Beza in Rom. 2. v. 6. What is here saied of Sophisters as if There are no such anie out of Christ or regenerate in Christ are found such in the iudgment of God as these here are described doth varie much frō the scope of the Apostle For that surely is most absurd Or as he hath in edition of 1565. Shall anie man bring these workes to which the Apostle saieth that life eternall shal be rendred Ether men not regenerate or the sonnes of God But nether Abraham surely hath whereof to glorie before God THE CONFERENCE Scripture plainely saieth that there are some to whome seeking glorie according to patience of good workes eternall life is rendred The same say Catholiks Protestāts plainely say that there are no men to whome life eternall is rendred according to their workes nor that there are anie workes to which eternall life is rendred ART VI. WHETHER THE SOVLES OF reprobates departed this life do now suffer the paines of hell SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Iude. v. 7. As Sodome and Gomorrha and the citties adioyning Sodomites in eternall fire in like manner hauing fornicated and going after an other flesh were made an example sustaining the paine of eternall fire Luc. 16. vers 22. And the rich man also dead and he was Diues in torments buried in hell And lifting vp his eyes when he was in torments c. Numbers 16. ver 33. And they went downe into hell quicke couered with the ground Are in hell CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME S. Thomas Suplement q. 69. art 2. As soone as the soule is loosed from the bodie ether it is cast into hell or mounteth to heauen vnlesse it be hindred
to God CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME S. Thomas 2. 2. q. 164. art 1. The soule of man is immortall beasts soules are mortall Et 1. parte q. 118. art 2. It is heresie to say that a reasonable soule is transfused with the seed PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Luther in Assert art 27. to 2. f. 107. I giue leaue that the Pope make articles of faith to his followers Such as are That bread and wine are transsubstantiated in the Sacrament That the soule is the substantiall forme of mans bodie That he is Emperour of the world and king of heauē and an earthlie God That the soule is immortall and all those infinit monsters in the Romish The soule is mortall dūghill of Decrees that such as his faith is such be his Ghospell such his faithfull such his Church and like lippes like lettuce and the pot may haue a fit couer And in the Margent Articles made of the Pope Zuinglius l. de Religione c. de Clauibus to 2. f. 187. But they do not so agree amongst themselues where the keyes were giuen that it is maruaile why the Pope of Rome seing he alone can iudge the Scripture as these men dreame hath not pronoūced by some lawe where they were giuen lest there should be so great dissension in a matter of so great moment or rather of profit For The soule dieth with the bodie he might easily for he hath decreed that soules do not die when the bodie dieth Vorstius in Antibellarm p. 543. There wāt not some among Infants perish like beasts Christiās who thinke that ether all Infants or some are quite extinguished by death as beasts are And he himselfe insinuateth that mans soule is not a pure spirit as appeareth by words cited in an other place Caluin in Explic. perfidiae Gentilis p. 677. Some Protestants did say that there is no shorter way to abolish the protection of Saintes superstitious praier for the dead the inuention of Purgatorie and such like then if we would beleiue death to be the destruction of the soule Soules perish Brentius homilia 35. in c. 20. Lucae apud Reginaldum l. 4. Caluinoturcismi cap. 5. Albeit there be no publike profession among vs that the soule perisheth with the bodie and that there is no resurrection of the dead yet that most vncleane and most profane life which the greatest parte of men follow clearely sheweth that in their mynd they thinke that there is no life after this life or at least that they doubt of the life to come No life after this Men are begotten euen according to the soule Besides they teach that mans soule is transfused with the seede Bergenses apud Hospin in Concordia discordi f. 104. Write that a mā is naturally begotten of his father and mother both according to bodie and soule Luther disput 2. to 2. fol. 500. Who shall thinke that the soule is by transfusion seemeth not to thinke amisse from the Scripture Et fol. 501. That is nothing which is saied A reasonable soule is infused whilest it is created and created it is infused Et Vorstius in Antibellarm p. 530. Luther thought that the soule was by transfusion Hutterus in Analysi Confess Augustanae art 2. p. 157. We Our Soules are not created but transfused resolue that that opinion seemeth more probable to vs which thinketh that soules are not infused of God but are propagated from parents to children by transfusion Peucerus apud Schlusselburg l. 2. Theol. Caluin art 6. I conclude that soules rise by transfusion Schlusselburg to 2. Catal. Haeret. p. 195. It appeareth sufficiently in the writings of Luther and Melancthon that they incline to this opinion which saieth that soules are by transfusion and they shew great arguments out of the Scripture Reineccius to 3. Armaturae cap. 6. We gather that soules are together with the bodies propagated from the parents into the children and not made of the seed as out of matter but of the soule of the parents as one candle is lightned of an other and that as the bodie so the soule is in the seed not actually but in power which being dead is raised vp by Gods gouernment But to teach that mans soules is by transfusion is in effect The Soule being dead it raised and deed to say it is mortall as the Protestants themselues confesse Pareus l. 4. de Amiss Grat. c. 11. Whether we say that soules are sowed with the bodies or immediatly transfused out of other soules as one light is kindled of an other we cannot defend the immortalitie of the soule any more Beza in Rom. 5. v. 12. Which opinion can no way be mantained but that the substance of mans soule must be diuisible and consequently corruptible Moreouer they teach that mans soule after his death sleepeth and feeleth nothing Luther in 2. Ionae to 4. f. 417. Scripture teacheth that the dead sleepe I thinke that they are so drowned with a meruailous The Soules sleepe and feele nothing and vnspeakable sleepe as they feele or see lesse then they that otherwise sleepe and when they shal be raised they shall not know where they haue beene or how they were sodainlie borne a new Ib. in c. 9. Eccles f. 36. Salomon seemeth to thinke that the dead sleepe so as they know nothing at all He described the dead like to sensles carcases Et f. 37. An other place that the dead feele nothing Salomon thought that the dead did wholy sleepe and feele nothing at all In cap. 25. Gen. to 6 f. 722. There is a great difference betwene the Saintes sleeping and Christ raigning they sleepe and know not what is done Caluin in Psychopanychia p. 388. I know manie good men into whose mynd some thing was instilled of this sleepe of the soules ether through to much readinesse to beleiue or through ignorance of Scriptures whereby they were not sufficiently instructed at the time for to resist whome I would not offend if I may Sleidan l. 9. Histor Luther teacheth out of Scripture that the soules of the dead do rest and expect the latter day of iudgment and he addeth that out of this Luther ouerthrew purgatorie But to teach that the soules haue no feeling is as much as to say that they are perished according to the verdict of the Protestants themselues For thus Beza epistola 82. To depriue the soule of motion and sense is alone as to kill the soule The same saieth Caluin lib. cit p. 391. Daneus Contr. 2. p. 160. Zuinglius in Exposit fidei tom 2. fol. 559. and in elencho fol. 37. Castalio also apud Bezam de puniendis Haereticis whose learning and honestie D. Humfrey ad Ration 1. Campiani saieth he well knew writeth thus Men dispute of the Trinitie of Predestination of free will of God of Angels of the state of soules after this life and of other such matters which nether are so necessarie to obtaine saluation by faith because without knowledge of
none euer anie haue contradicted the true sense of the Scripture the Protestants haue done it First because they haue as often and in as manie and as weightie matters contradicted the expresse words of Scripture as euer anie haue Secondly because they haue contradicted as expresse and cleare words and those as purposely spoaken to declare the Scriptures meaning as euer anie words were which anie haue cōtradicted Thirdly because they haue contradicted them in as plaine cleare and vsuall sense and which is confirmed by as manie circunstances and by light of reason and experience as euer anie words of Scripture were contradicted in Fourthly because they contradict these kind of words in this kind of sense with as euident want of the like words which may seeme plainly and directly of themselues without all inference or exposition of man to beare the contrarie sense as euer anie did Thou seest also what a maine difference there is betwene The differēce betwene the grounds of the Cath. and Protest faith the foundations of the Catholik and Protestant beleefe touching these articles For whereas the foundation of the Protestant beleife concerning the Eucharist is no expresse word of God which is purposely spoaken to declare this matter and which of it selfe without all helpe of man doth plainely and directly pronounce that it is such as they beleiue but ether mans word onely or mans discourse framed at least out of one humane principle the foundation of the Catholik faith is Gods expresse and cleare word spoaken of him purposely for to declare what the Eucharist is which of it selfe without anie helpe of vs clearely and directly auoucheth that the Eucharist is such as Catholiks beleiue it to be and against which words no other expresse words of God directly contrarie to these can be opposed but onely humane arguments and discourses These as S. Austin speaketh are the proofes of our course these the foundations these the strength Whatsoeuer Lib. de vnit c. 19. In Psal 21. they gayne say men say but this God saieth Yet let vs heare what it is which men say against God They except saieth Caluin that they haue the word by 4. Instit c. 17. §. 25. which the will of God is made manifest A most iust exception doubtles especially in matters of faith and such as cannot be knowne but by Gods word and against them who so much brag of Gods word For if we haue Gods word we haue also Gods meaning vnlesse they can demonstrate the contrarie Whereupon well saied Tertullian Ether denie that these are written or who art thou that Contr. Praxeam c. 23. thou thinkest that they are not to be vnderstood as they are written Forsooth saieth Caluin if we giue them leaue to banish out Loco cit §. 20 of the Church the guift of interpretation which may bring light to the word Againe We vsing daily studie do embrace that sense which the Holie Gost doth suggest And once more The reuerence of Christs words is not a pretext iust enough why they should so reiect all the reasons which we obiect Behould Reader once more the difference betwene the Catholik and Caluins faith The Catholik faith by the aduersaries confession What Caluin opposeth against the expresse word of God is grounded vpon the expresse and plaine words of God Caluins faith relieth vpon his guift of interpretation his studie the suggestions of his spirit his reasons which he dare oppose yea prefer before the expresse word of God But we demand that seing we haue for vs the expresse word of God wherewith Gods will touching the Eucharist is made manifest he produce the like word of God whereby it may be made manifest that the Caluinists haue the guift of interpretation rather then the Catholiks or the Lutherans or anie sorte of Christians or that that guift of interpreting which interpreteth Gods expresse words spoaken by him of supernaturall matters of purpose to declare what they are contrarie to their vsuall sense is the guift of God But if he cannot produce anie such word of God it were starke madnesse to forsake Gods expresse word and the plaine meaning thereof which besides Sacramentaries all Christians els do embrace and to follow a guift of interpretation ether vncertaine or feigned Besides Protestants do banish the guift of infallible interpretation out of the Church in saying that she may erre in matters of faith and interpretatation of Scripture why then do they in this matter pretend such a guift and oppose it against Gods expresse words Moreouer to expound words which by their owne confession are most cleare is no other thing then as S. Austin saieth to cast darknesse vpon cleare light Nether Serm. 14. de verbis Apost banish we the guift of interpretation out of the Church which neuer interpreted these words but in their natiue and vsuall sense but we denie that Heretiks haue the guift of interpreting the Scripture and affirme that their new expositiō directly contrarie to Gods words both expresse and of purpose spoaken to declare this matter and condemned by Gods Church is no interpretation but a deprauation and corruption Furthermore we reiect no interpretation which may bring light to the word but we denie that Caluins interpretation is such but rather quite extinguisheth the cleare light of the word For what greater darknesse can be cast vpon light then in expresse words spoaken of purpose to declare a matter and by which a new doctrine is deliuered a new Sacrament instituted a last will is made and which were spoaken of the Maister of trueth vnto his disciples when he was to forsake them to expound Is by Is not and Body giuen for you by A bare figure or Signe thereof And thus we haue heard what Caluin opposeth against Gods expresse word now let vs see how he would diminish the force and authoritie of the same I confesse saieth he that they haue the word A confession surely much to be esteemed especially proceeding In Act. 9. v. 21. from such an aduersarie as is accustomed to crie That Papists find no weapons for them in the Scripture But he should also haue confessed as the trueth is that Protestants haue not such a word to wit which plainely and directly denieth the Eucharist to be the bodie and blood of Christ For thereby it would haue appeared more clearelie whether Catholiks or Protestants find the better weapons in the Scripture But he addeth Yet such a word as the Anthropomorphites had when they made God to haue a bodie Yea such a word as thou or anie Christian hath when he maketh God to haue beene incarnated to haue suffered to haue risen againe and to haue ascended to heauen and as I dare say a clearer word also if the words themselues and the foresaied circunstances be considered So that Differences betwene the Cath. and the Anthropomorphites more iustly may anie Heretik who denieth the foresaied mysteries obiect to thee the example
words of Christ but thinke of some other thing and with inward eyes behould them as mysteries And Victorinus ib. In the question of the Supper of the Lord we must looke with the left eye vpon the words of Christ and with the right behould the natures of Christ and the writings of Antiquitie Yee see them professe that the foundation and strength of their opinion is a humane principle that their reasons are to be preferred before Christs words that we must not simply looke vpon Christ words but thinke vpon some other thing that we must looke vpon Christs words with the left eye and with the right vpon nature Which is the very doctrine of Suencfeldius in Schlusselburg art 23. cit Remoue saieth he from thy sight Take and Eate This is my bodie and then consider what is the nature of mans bodie of eating of Sacraments and of ould figures and so thou shalt find most certaine trueth In like sorte they confesse that they learnt not their faith out of Scripture Zuinglius Resp ad Serm. Lutheri to 2. fol. 372. Faith cannot be learnt or discussed out of words but the Protest haue not their faith out of Scripture teacher of it is God and after we haue it deliuered from him we may see the same in words And in Exegesi fol. 347. We do not thinke that faith can be gathered out of words but that faith being the mistresse the words which are set before vs may be vnderstood How I pray you should we gather faith out of words sith we ought not to come to expound Scriptures But being already armed with faith And OEcolampadius in Hospin part 2. Histor fol. 70. I come not to Scripture but being before hand armed with faith Their first shift is to scoffe and deride the manner of Protecst soffe at plaine proofes out of Scripture arguing out of the expresse words of Scripture P. Martyr in Schlusselburg l. 4. Theol. Caluin artic 20. calleth our argument taken out of the words of the institution of the Eucharist a Fiue word proofe And in Dial. col 130. thus speaketh I alwaies thought that yee were not so wise as yee Gods word not enough should be in labouring so much for an opinion both absurde and vnprofitable and hauing nothing to mantaine it but Christs word This is my bodie Caluin 1. Instit cap. 2. § 3. saieth that they are madde who endeauour to defend the images of God and Saints by the example of the Cherubins The same saieth Hospin l. de orig Templorum pag. 254. and Beza 2. part respons ad Colloq Montisbel pag. 31. termeth the same a stinking argument Whitaker ad Rat. 3. Campiani maketh this to be a Sophisme Saint Iames commandeth to Foolish to striue about Christs words anoint the sick therefore we must anoint them Zuinglius de Peccat orig tom 2. fol. 122. saieth How foolish should he seeme who for words of Scripture would auouch that we are washed from originall sinne by the water of baptisme OEcolāpadius cōplaineth that the words of the Institutiō of the Eucharist are obiected to him as a Helene and the samewords Caluin termeth Aiax his buckler and the onely refuge of Papists Finally they are sometimes driuen to blaspheme the They blaspheme the very words of Scripture words of Scripture and to say that they will nether beleiue them nor God himselfe P. Martyr cont Gardiner col 423. termeth the words of the Institution of the Eucharist a litle speach of fiue words and col 1095 a fiue word speach Zuinglius Respons ad Billican tom 2. f. 264. Poore letters Burensis in Schlusselburg Praefat. in tom 3. Catal. Haeret. Foure impotent words Sheldon l. of Antichrist pag. 82. in scoffe Fiue omnipotent words Hospin part 2. Histor fol. 63. Fiue magicall words Gratianus Anties tom 6. doctrinae Iesuit fol. 158. speaketh in this sorte To be present according to Gregorie is to draw Christs bodie out of heauen by fiueuerbicall or magicall power Volanus l. 2. cont Scargam pag. 1047. Feigning to your selues a new Christ of bread made by the fiue-word-breath of a Preist Moreouer Zuinglius as before is rehearsed called Christs words of the indissolubilitie of mariage drie words and l. de Relig. c. de Euchar. saieth that the words of conscration are too drie for some mens capacitie Poach in Schlusselburg tom 4. Catal. pag. 305. thus writeth It must needs be that the law sith it nether Gods law in lie is Christ nor in Christ is contained in error lie and death And the Scripture as Luther saieth in his disputations is not to be vnderstood against Christ but for Christ and therefore to be referred to him or not to be accounted true Scripture Luther being sore vrged by the words of Scripture touching works and the law teacheth his followers to answere thus tom 5. in 3. Galat. fol. 345. Simply we must answere in this sorte Here is Christ there the testimonies of the Scripture touching workes and the law But Christ is Lord of the Scripture Thou vrgest the seruant that is the Scripture this seruant I Luther leaueth the Scripture to Papists leaue to thee I vrge the Lord who is King of the Scripture And speaketh yet more plainely German edit Wittemb tom 1. in these words Albeit the Papists do bring a huge loade of Scriptures in which good works are commanded I care nothing He careth not for all the Scripture for all the sayings of the Scripture though more were brought Thou Papist art very insolent and proud with the Scripture which yet is vnder Christ and the Lord. Wherefore I am nothing He is not moued with it moued thereby Go too foresooth relie vpon the seruant as much as thou wilst but I relie vpon Christ the true Maister Lord and Emperour of the Scripture Him I will beleiue and I know he cannot lie to me nor lead me into error I had rather honour and beleiue him then to suffer my selfe to be drawne one finger breth from my opinion for all the sayings of the Scripture Loe how Luther careth not for all the sayings of the Scriptures is nothing moued with will not alter his opinion for them all and leaueth them to the Papists And in like sorte tom 1. disput de Fide fol. 387. saieth But if our aduersaries vrge the Scripture against Christ we vrge Christ against the Scripture We haue the Lord they haue the seruant Papist haue the Scripture And in Colloq cap. de verbo Dei fol. 22. speaking of his followers saieth The Scripture is contemned corrupted and mocked of vs. Yea Zuinglius in Elencho tom 2. fol. 10. affirmeth that when Paul wrote the Commentaries of the Euangelists and the Epistles of the Apostles were not of authoritie and that Paul did not attribute so much to his Epistles as that Paul did not thinke his Epistles diuine whatsoeuer was contained in them was holie The like is insinuated by
doctrine of the law not of the Ghospell Caluin ib. We gather that this answere of Christ is according to the law Illyricus in Claue part 2. tract 6. col 543. That all be bound vnder payne of losse of eternall life to doe good and auoid sinne is a sentence of the law and must and ought to be corrected and restrained by the Protestant Ghospell or by remission of sinnes Peter Martyr in Rom. 11. That saying Forgiue and it shal be forgiuen is a precept and therefore pertaineth to the law Melancthon in Apologia tom 3. c. de argumentis The promise of reconciliation and of eternall life is free but proper legall promises are added for workes as who shall giue a draught of water shall not want his reward Wherefore thus I frame my eleuenth argument Who not onely contradict the expresse words of Scripture but also are compelled to turne conditionall propositions of Scripture into absolute and to delude them diuers other waies do contradict also the sincere meaning of the Scripture But thus doe Protestants Therefore c. CHAPTER XII THAT PROTESTANTS CHANGE manie causall propositions of Scripture into not causall THE 12. argument for to proue that Protestants contradict the true sense of Scripture shal be because they are compelled in manie and weightie controuersies to turne causall propositions into not causall For is we proue that Christ was exalted for his humiliation because it is saied Philippen 2. ver 8. He humbled himselfe made obedient vnto death euen the death of the crosse For For the which thing God hath exalted him Caluin ibid. answereth That illatiue particle wherefore in this place signifieth rather consequence then cause And 2. Instit c. 17. § vlt. The solution is easie that Paul there speaketh not of the cause of Christs exaltation but onely sheweth the consequence And Daneus Controuer 2. pag. 201. The particle For which sheweth the order and continuation of the speach not the cause for which If we proue the same out of those wordes Hebrew 2. ver 9. We see Iesus because of the passion of death crowned with glorie and honour Caluin ib. answereth Because of the passion of death is as much as if he had saied Christ hauing died was raised to this glorie which he hath gotten For the meanes onely that I may so speake of obtaining glorie is declared If we proue that confession of faith is cause of saluatiō as faith is cause of iustification out of those words Rom. 10. ver 10. For with heart we beleiue vnto iustice but with the To. mouth confesson is made to saluation Caluin ib. answereth We must not gather thereof that confession is cause of saluation he ment onely to tell how God doth perfect our saluation It is a necessitie of perpetuall consequence not that he attributeth saluation to confession Hunnius lib. de Iustificat p. 186. saieth That Confession to saluation is the same that confession of saluation Which the Electorall Ministers in Colloq Aldeburg p. 295. affirme to be a corruption of Scripture If we proue that keeping of the commandements is cause of our freindship with God by those words Ioan. 15. v. 14. You are my freinds if you doe the things that I commād If. you Caluin ib. answereth He meaneth not that we get so much honour by anie merit of ours but onely admonisheth vs vpon what condition he receaueth vs into grace and vouchsafeth to reckon vs among his freinds If we proue that the forgiuenesse of our sinnes dependeth vpon our forgiuing of others out of those words Luc. 11. v. 4. Forgiue vs our sinnes for because our selues also do Because forgiue euerie one that is in debt to vs. Caluin in Math. 6. v. 11. answereth Neuerthelesse forgiuenesse which we demand for our selues dependeth not of that which we giue but by this means Christ would exhorte vs to forgiue all offenses and withall confirme more our trust of forgiuenesse as it were by fealing it Nether skilleth it that in Luke is the particle 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which is as much as For because or For because Christs meaning was not to note the cause but onely to aduertise what kind of mind we ought to haue towards our brethren whiles we seeke to be reconciled to God If we proue that by charitie we be made the sonnes of God out of those words Math. 5. ver 45. But I say to you That loue your enemies doe good to them that hate you and pray for them that persecure and abuse you that you may be the children of your father which is in heauen Calum ib. answereth Vnderstand not that by our beneficence we become the children of God But because the same Spirit which is witnesse assurance and seall of our free adoption doth correct the naughtie affectiōs of the flesh which are contrarie to charitie Christ proueth by the effect that no others are the children of God but those who resemble him in clemencie and meeknes If we proue that loue is the cause of forgiuing sinnes by those words Luc. 7. v. 47. Manie sinnes are forgiuen her Because because she hath loued much Aretius in locis part 1. fol. 84. answereth Because is taken ostentiuely not causatiuely This is so necessarie as the place cannot be otherwise vnderstood The like hath Illyricus in Claue part 2. tract 4. Polanus in disp priuat 36. If we proue that keeping of the commandments is cause of obtaining what we pray for out of those words 1. Ioan. 3. v. 22. Whatsoeuer we shall aske we shall receaue of Because him because we keep his commandements Caluin ibidem answereth He meaneth not that our trust in praier consisteth in our workes but this onely he vrgeth that pietie and sincere worshippe of God cannot be seperated from faith Nether must it seeme absurd that he vseth the causall particle though he meane not of the cause for the inseperable accident vseth sometime to be put for the cause If we proue that workes are cause of reward out of these words Math. 16. ver 27. He will render to euerie man According according to his workes Caluin ibid. answereth As often as reward is promised to good workes the cause of saluation is not shewed but the faithfull are onely encouraged to doe well because they are assured that they shall not leese their labour If we proue that good workes are cause of eternall happines out of these words Math. 25. v. 34. Possessethe For. kingdome c. For I was hungrie and you gaue me to eate And c. 25. v. 23. Because thou hast beene faithfull ouer a few things I will place the ouer manie things enter into the ioy of thy Lord. And Apocal. 7. ver 14. These are they which are come out of Therefore great tribulation c. therefore they are before the throne of God Pareus lib. 5. de Iustificat c. 3. saieth The answere of all Protestants is that the causall particle in the
faith is grounded onely vpon mens authoritie and all their doctrin forsouth vpon the expresse Scripture and word of God and In c. 1. Galat. In Assert art 2. thereby draw the simple people to follow them The Pope faieth Luther hauing no Scripture wherewith to defēd himself vseth this onely and perpetuall argument against vs. The Church the Church Agayne Our opinion is deliuered by these words of God the contrarie by the words of men And otherwhere All the Scripture standeth an our sides through all letters and tittles Caluin Papists find no weapons in Scripture yea they In Actor 9. v. 22. In Antid sess 6. c. 8. see it wholy against them Agayne I haue the whole Scripture on my side And Sadeel Our doctrin doth relie vpon the expresse worde of God And in an other place we professed in the fift article of our French Confession that our faith is onely and wholie and expressly grounded vpon the word of God as it is contained De vocat Ministr Ad art 1. abiurat in the Scripture Fulk in Ioan. 5. note 2. Papists can not find a iote of Poperie allowed ether by expresse wordes of the Scripture or by necessarie cōclusiō out of the same And the like most vaine pretence this most impudent boast is most Apol. Anglic p. 20. Pareus praefat lib. de Grat. Caluin epist 193. Whitak praefat ad Demonst manifestly refuted in this booke wherein is clearly shewed that the Catholik doctrin in more then 260. points denied by Protestants is in expresse termes and most directly taught and deliuered by the Scripture and in the same points the Protestants doctrin condemned and that these in very deed do relie vpon their owne inferences out of Scripture their owne conferences of places of Scripture and oppose their owne expositions glosses tropes and figures against the expresse words and thunders of almightie God 14. The sixt commoditie is that though some obstinatly will not confesse that in all these 260. points or in most of them the Scripture or word of God doth expresly approue the Catholik doctrin and condemne the Protestant yet this he can not denie but in all these points the holie Scripture both for word and for sense fauoureth more the Catholik doctrin then the Protestant which if ignorant Protestants would mark they would not be so easily misled For as for words in all these 260. points we Catholiks aduantage ouer Protestants For words of Scripture vse the very same or equiualent words with the Scripture what she calleth faith we call faith what she calleth the bodie of Christ we call the bodie of Christ And so in others whereas Protestants do the quite contrarie as hath beene touched before and shall appeare in the whole booke And as for the forme of speach where the Scripture For phrase of Scripture affirmeth we affirme where the Scripture denieth we deny And contrarie wise the Protestants affirme where the Scripture denieth and deny where the Scripture affirmeth as shal be most euident to him that will read this booke Besids no parte or parcell of the Scripture forceth For partes of Scripture Catholiks to denie it but they hould all that Protestants account for Scripture and some what more whereas Protestāts are compelled to reiect manie bookes of those which Catholiks and the holie Church heretofore hath beleeued to be Gods word and fouly also to mangle and corrupt these bookes which they admit Moreouer Catholiks refuse no authenticall edition or translation of the For translations of Scripture Scripture but Protestants will sland to no translation And thus much touching the words of Scripture As for For the sense of Scripture the sense thereof Catholiks in all these 260. points do admit that sense which the expresse words of Scripture and they spoaken of purpose to declare Gods mynd doe of them selues proporse which sense Protestants reiect and force the quite contrarie Agayne scarce in any of these 260. articles Catholiks are driuen to any answere which hath any shew of a shift or euasion because in them as I saied they embrace the natiue and proper sense of the words of Scripture but Protestants in euerie one of them are driuen to sundrie and foule shifts because they refuse the naturall and plaine sense of Gods word Besids Catholiks in all these 260. points dare stand to the iudgment of the expresse worde of God according to that sentence which of them selues with out all helpe force or pressing of Catholiks they doe pronounce Protestants dare not in these articles stand to the iudgment of Gods expresse worde vnles they may wrest wring and interprete it as they thinke best Finally Catholiks in none of all these questions reiect that sense of Scripture which is deliuered by vnanimous consent of the holie Fathers Councells or Church Protestants refuse it in manie Seing therefore Catholiks haue the aduantage ouer Protestants not onely for Fathers Councells Church miracles the like but also that they haue such and so great aduantages ouer them in more then 260. points of controuersie both for the expresse worde and plaine sense of the Scripture it is plaine willfulnes and carelesnes of saluation to leaue Catholiks for to follow Protestants I would to God that Protestants would as they pretend follow the expresse word of God and embrace that Religion Note which the expresse word of God most fauoureth reiect that which it most disliketh and enquire diligently whether the Catholik or Protestant religion can in more points of controuersie proue her doctrin by the pure and expresse written word of God without the mixture of any word of man and by the pure sense therof which of it self it affordeth without any help or exposition of man when it is spoaken of purpose to declare Gods meaning vnto vs. Let that religion florish and be embraced which in this conflict ouercomet let that perish and be reiected which is ouercomen And what more reasonable then to preferre Gods pure word before that which is not pure mixt partely of Gods words partely of mans What more reafonable then to preferre Gods direct speech before mans inference or collection out of his speech What more reasonable then to follow rather Gods expresse words then mans glosses tropes and figures And finally what more reasonable then to follow that religion which in more then 260. points of controuersie is grounded vpon the pure word the direct word the expresse word of God and hath against it nothing but mans mixt word mans inference mans glosses rather then that which in all those points is condemned by the pure direct and expresse word of God and supported onely by mans mixt word mans inference and mans glosses For example That the Eucharist is the bodie of Christ we haue for vs in foure places of Scripture the pure direct and expresse word of God saying This is my bodie and against vs there is not so much as once any pure word of God